Hi there!
I want to know if you prefer to use gestures or buttons on your daily use and why.
Personally I found buttons more easy to use, but now I'm using gestures and, with a bit of familiarity I can say they are better (and system is more beauty without the 3 buttons)
I agree : what the point of having a large full screen... if you still have a range of buttons at the bottom that "cut" the screen ? I'm now used to navigate with Miui gestures and do not want to come back to the older way by any means !
gestures for ever ! ;o))
I've tried both and I can't really pick one. I keep going back and forth.. I agree I feel like the buttons are really old in Android and gestures a much better for big full screen smartphones like the RN7 but I guess time will tell which I'll end up using daily.
From the moment I tried the MIUI gesture system, I don't want to go back to anything else, it's just too good. Thankfully, I can emulate them in like 95% on other ROMs thanks to Fluid N.G.
I still prefer buttons.
I'm a bit faster with them and i use the press and hold functions (torch etc.)
A clean fullscreen is more pretty, no doubt.
But on a 19.5:9 screen, i don't care if i lose that 1cm at the bottom.
I got used to the one button nav from my previous Moto g5 plus. So I enabled full screen gestures day one after getting the note 7. It's better than the soft buttons and easier to navigate around on this tall screen.
Gestures all the way, it really makes you feel better with 6.x screens, fluid and easy to learn
gestures exclusively. When I received a blackberry Z30 for my job in 2014, I really loved the gestures they implemented. It allowed for a smaller chin and more screen real estate. Ever since then I had to go "back" to regular buttons when they upgraded me to an android phone and when I switched to android privately, and it felt like a step back.
Now that we have those full body phones, using gestures feels great again.
I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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+1. For example, telegram. I prefer buttons for now
smallmj said:
I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
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haha, same here.
However, I also have gestures, loads of them, using Gesture Control. I still like the phone buttons to be present, and Gesture Control over MIUI's own gestures which are just too elementary, too limited.
Tried gestures. Didn't like. Went back to buttons. Maybe Android 10 or MIUI will improve things, but I'm staying with buttons for now.
Gestures. More real estate and actually I find it easier to navigate with gestures.
I am using gestures for 3 months now,only thing buttons are better for me is double tap to go to previous app is faster and I find it easier to start multitasking by just holding one button and picking 2nd app, then swipe and hold,then press and hold and click again then choose 2nd app.
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Hello all,
Ok, so I've gone to the end of my wits here. So long story short, I've been using a Galaxy Nexus for a long time and have grown accustomed to stock android and the navbar buttons.
As a result, I've tried to get my One to run with a nav-bar, problem is so far, only Paranoid android seems to let me do that.
* Any stock GPE ROM by default doesn't have it
* I've tried editing build.prop in GPE: "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" but that doesn't do anything. Reading up, I think that only changes how the menu buttons works, rather than the Navbar?
* Root programs like virtual Navbars cover up the bottom of the screen.
* I've tried Xposed scripts, which also don't work.
Have I missed anything? While the PA roms more ore less work, the speakers are noticeably softer and poorer in sound quality... i don't have a working IR blaster and GPE roms work much smoother... I'd even settle with a HTC sense rom as long as I can get the Navbar working.
Thanks
Just curious as to the point of having physical keys and on-screen keys at the same time. Seems like a waste of screen real estate, and redundant as well
Use "ultimate dynamic navbar". A quick search will lead you to the devs thread which offers a free version with a decent amount of customization and a paid version with many more features. You're welcome
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crixley said:
Just curious as to the point of having physical keys and on-screen keys at the same time. Seems like a waste of screen real estate, and redundant as well
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From memory, on the gpe, we don't have an option to hide the three dot menu, and it takes up the bottom section of the screen. If that's the case I'd rather it be the nav bar which serves more purpose.
Regarding dynamic navbar, that's the one that I mention that cuts into the bottom of the screen (sometimes it covers buttons if I leave it on permanently), but seeing that I'm running out of options, I'm going to force myself to get used to the hiding navbar. Might be a nice middle ground.
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What about Pie Controls? Try LMT Launcher, it doesn't waste space, is highly customizable and is perfect for HTC One, because there is no capacitive button below the screen in the middle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Can someone make a module that replace the navigation and with gestures like on iPhone X? I really like the idea and I want to see it on Android .
Thanks!
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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I don't know what exactly you are looking for, but have you tried Xposed Edge Pro? It is fantastic... and powerful. Probably will fit your needs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-edgepro-v2-0-release-t3525566
Besides it Xposed Gesture Navigation also deserves a try.
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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Click on the edge of the screen? Or maybe hold?
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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I use swipe down on right edge center.
Up is menu.
Press and hold top is fast upwards.
Press and hold bottom is fast downwards.
Press and hold center is a pie app switching related.
Press and hold left edge center is general pie.
Press and hold bottom edge center is a pie clipboard related.
And lots of other stuff..... All with Xposed Edge Pro.
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I love UI changes, so over the years I've tried things like Android Pie, Gesture control, exposed modules, and even multi window stuff all the way back in the tablet days of Android Honeycomb.
The problem is the lack of response breaks them.
When I swipe from the bottom I need instant feedback (visual/audio/haptic or all three) as to whether or not the phone thinks I'm scrolling down or going home.
When I realize I am scrolling down/going home and I want to be doing the opposite action, I need to be able to stop the gesture mid-way and reverse my action.
I need to easily be able to distinguish between the two gestures so that if I do mess up, I know what to do to get the desired result.
I need all other apps to accommodate/not request this gesture.
The iPhone does this well by having a bottom bar, you pull the bar up to go home, you swipe somewhere else to scroll. There is instant visual feedback, and the action can be stopped midway.
For Android here is a non-clone example.
1. Have a bubble/circle (looks like a chat-head) right where the home button is.
2. Swiping up behaves similar to pulling down (refreshing) on chrome/many apps. You start pulling and there is an animation but the action does execute till a certain threshold.
3. Swiping right-to-left has similar animation but for back button
4. Swiping left-to-right does the same but for multitasking
5. Long press for something else
This is not radically different from other gestures or Android Pie, but I believe the small changes and refinements would take it from being impractical to smooth and enjoyable.
I like the new iPhone X's "swipe bar" and I would love to find it on my android phone.
In my opinion a dedicated visible bar is better than "swipe on the edges".
Why? Because even "swipe on the edges" works obviously with a small area of the screen (otherwise is impossible to detect swipe gestures), but this area is transparent, which is cool but also bad: sometimes when you just tap on that area (when you're typing on the keyboard for example) an involuntary swipe is detected.
So in my opinion a visible bar like the current navigation bar is necessary.
But is definitely unneccessary such a big area!
So I imagine the perfect "swipe bar" a small, minimal and animated (when touched) area.
User should be able to map up to 4 different swipe gestures (up, right, down and left) and tap gestures (one tap, double tap, long press, ...)
I drew some concepts of the "swipe bar", what you guys think?
photos.app.goo.gl/opZhtO8aYvTB3ow92
vraciu' said:
Can someone make a module that replace the navigation and with gestures like on iPhone X? I really like the idea and I want to see it on Android .
Thanks!
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You mean something like this
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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what he said
Only the 3 and 3 XL has this option, the 4 and 4 XL does not.
It's gone. And that's probably because so many people *****ed about it being half baked so I can't blame them for removing it.
There is this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80667349&postcount=2
It's 3-button but it works like a charm
biTToe
Zorachus said:
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
scoonie said:
Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
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Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
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Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
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ITS GONE!!! pixel 4 ditched it. Rightfully so.
my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Sounds like you're trying to perform the back gesture where the keyboard is. Try doing in above the keyboard so it doesn't do any actions on your keyboard. Personally I switched to fluid navigation gestures because they offer more customization for where the gestures can be performed along with additional features.
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my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Lol I've done that in the message app too. They seriously need to allow us to disable swipe to archive.
The real problem is lack of adjustment: You cant change the swipe length, trigger window, remove unused gestures, re task the gesture windows to a different function and so on. As an example I'd be rid of the swipe to assistant out of the corner immediately. That one is particularly egregious since you have 5 different shortcuts to the function within a few inches of each other and to me that means I've got 4 wasted shortcuts on my desktop, the most valuable real estate on a phone.
Like others I use a different gesture program which has much more customization, NV gestures. I have run into a problem though where when I have it enabled it wont allow the newer assistant, instead the assistant pops out old school across the bottom quarter of the screen and without the instant transcription. I'm using Action Launcher but get the same behavior on the stock launcher with the gestures. Anyone run into this one?
I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
As far as I know, you can't get rid of the navbar without root. FNG works with root though you have to get rid of the navbar yourself.
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I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
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Not having that slowness issue with gestures on Nova on either my first nor replacement Pixel 5 - swiping up to go home is snappy, definitely not waiting for icons and widgets to populate.
I think you may have a unique issue as I've seen a couple posts talk about using Nova with the Pixel 5 and never any mention of such a terrible issue.
Hello all,
I'm struggling to do something that has never previously been difficult on former Android devices I've owned.
Is there a simple non-root or adb way to switch the back and recents button in the navigation bar? I've tried a few apps and everything just draws over the existing bar, it's not a super helpful solution. I think custom navigation bar did this but it's not currently compatible with pixel 7 in play store.
Also is there a way to remove the accessibility shortcut on the navigation bar (little man) ? I have tried everything on every article I've read, it's still there.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Sanjay
I second this. Really getting old reaching completely across the screen to press the most common button you use.
Doesnt understand why Google not implement this? I only root so i can use @tulsadivers magisk mod to change this. Hopefully it comes to pixel 7. Otherwise im waiting for linage
krabban said:
Doesnt understand why Google not implement this? I only root so i can use @tulsadivers magisk mod to change this. Hopefully it comes to pixel 7. Otherwise im waiting for linage
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I gotta say once I tried navigation gestures and got use to using them I would never go back to using 3 button navigation, and the sensitivity level seems to be so much better with pixel 7 that the gesture required to do a task is very smooth . Maybe it's because I keep the screen protector mode on even though I have no protector, anyways just my opinion on the navigation options, I sure people feel just as strongly why they use the 3 button navigation, not trying to start a war, cheers
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I gotta say once I tried navigation gestures and got use to using them I would never go back to using 3 button navigation, and the sensitivity level seems to be so much better with pixel 7 that the gesture required to do a task is very smooth . Maybe it's because I keep the screen protector mode on even though I have no protector, anyways just my opinion on the navigation options, I sure people feel just as strongly why they use the 3 button navigation, not trying to start a war, cheers
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Cant stand gestures, but i will flash linage as soon as it arrives
Tried gestures for a few week. It's terrible. Switched back to the buttons.
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Tried gestures for a few week. It's terrible. Switched back to the buttons.
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Unfortunately I had an iPhone for a while and got used to them.
However, we can't we have both at the same time? An actual factual back button is just less frustrating sometimes.