Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
Zorachus said:
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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Only the 3 and 3 XL has this option, the 4 and 4 XL does not.
It's gone. And that's probably because so many people *****ed about it being half baked so I can't blame them for removing it.
There is this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80667349&postcount=2
It's 3-button but it works like a charm
biTToe
Zorachus said:
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
scoonie said:
Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
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Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
Zorachus said:
Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
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ITS GONE!!! pixel 4 ditched it. Rightfully so.
my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Sounds like you're trying to perform the back gesture where the keyboard is. Try doing in above the keyboard so it doesn't do any actions on your keyboard. Personally I switched to fluid navigation gestures because they offer more customization for where the gestures can be performed along with additional features.
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my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Lol I've done that in the message app too. They seriously need to allow us to disable swipe to archive.
The real problem is lack of adjustment: You cant change the swipe length, trigger window, remove unused gestures, re task the gesture windows to a different function and so on. As an example I'd be rid of the swipe to assistant out of the corner immediately. That one is particularly egregious since you have 5 different shortcuts to the function within a few inches of each other and to me that means I've got 4 wasted shortcuts on my desktop, the most valuable real estate on a phone.
Like others I use a different gesture program which has much more customization, NV gestures. I have run into a problem though where when I have it enabled it wont allow the newer assistant, instead the assistant pops out old school across the bottom quarter of the screen and without the instant transcription. I'm using Action Launcher but get the same behavior on the stock launcher with the gestures. Anyone run into this one?
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Okay to start off I love my nexus one and would not buy an iphone so all the android fanboys don't jump on my case. But there are some software aspects of the iphone that i like. For instance I like the way messages show up on the lockscreen on the iphone and the iphones multi-tasking. I was wondering if it would be possible to implement the iphone style of multi-tasking into the nexus one. Basically the trackball can still be used for selection and all that good stuff if you even do that, but if you double tap it at a selectable speed it would open recent apps. Or even go further to make the scroll bar that the iphone has. Give me some response on this, tell me what you guys think.
what is this...i dont even?
what is your question? I want to somehow have a setting in the nexus one where if you double tap the trackball it will open up recent apps and possibly implement an iphone like scroll bar at the bottom.
Sorry for asking but.... Are you sure you know how to use your Nexus ?
yes i know how to hold the home button... lol
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yes i know how to hold the home button... lol
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and? why would you want to double tap your trackball? you know iphone do that because they only have one button right?
also it would create huge issues for selection with trackball...
Let's say while wanting to double tap the trackball for multitasking, you had something selected, the first click should theoretically open that app/link directly...if we implement such feature, people that actually use the trackball for opening stuff will have delays, which sucks massively.
All in all, this idea is awful. You can make the number of recent apps higher in Cyanogen, do that and you won't need the scrolling bar of the iPhone...
If you want to double tap something, download QuickDesk PRO and set it to open on double tap of home key. It has a 'QuickPanel' feature that shows recent apps and its a fantastic piece of sofware.
For the messages on lockscreen.. download WidgetLocker and place Pure Messenger Widget on the lockscreen..
chompSMS does this lockscreen "thing", and even allows you to reply to them without unlocking, if you so wish, and relocks after.
For double-tap home, there's literally loads of multitasker apps that can do that, even offering "coverflow" style switching between apps...
Itching thumb is another good task switcher. nice looking graphics and gesture support.
Use HandcentSMS to replicate that better than Iphone experience
just get an iphone.
then you can try that, and maybe you'll go back to the nexus one, maybe not.
moomooshrooms said:
just get an iphone.
then you can try that, and maybe you'll go back to the nexus one, maybe not.
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Nice first post
OP, the reason double tap is a feature on iPhones is because of the lack of buttons. Steve only likes to push is customer's buttons, not his phone's
(horrible, I know lol)
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Itching thumb is another good task switcher. nice looking graphics and gesture support.
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Thanks, The video below looks great.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...amazing-free-task-switcher-you-want-this-now/
http://www.appbrain.com/app/itching-thumb-(task-manager)/com.bw.flipit
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-bw-flipit-jDFBF.aspx
Unfortunately it does not seem to work with CM61/ADW, only see 1-3 apps. Also the 'styles' preference is disabled.
wow lots of activity just got out philosophy class so its alil hard to comprehend all of it but, I am gonna try the lockscreen thing and the double tap the home button sounds really good. The thing that i got annoyed with holding the home button is that sometimes it will accidentally go to the home screen. LOL I don't want the iphone... my mom, step-dad, and roommate all have them lol. Android is where its at. With all these customizations you guys have told me about I am satisfied.
if you hold "home" button the last used apps would appear and that also means those apps would open faster which leads you again multi tasking. ok, I admit that's not a user-friendly way to access the apps but theyre going to fix alotof stuff like that in gingerbread.
There's also a program called Smart Taskbar. I didn't like it, but perhaps someone else will..
http://www.appbrain.com/app/smart-taskbar-(sidebar)/com.smart.taskbar
have you thought about running miui for rom?
I do. I am on rods 11.9
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Hi there!
I want to know if you prefer to use gestures or buttons on your daily use and why.
Personally I found buttons more easy to use, but now I'm using gestures and, with a bit of familiarity I can say they are better (and system is more beauty without the 3 buttons)
I agree : what the point of having a large full screen... if you still have a range of buttons at the bottom that "cut" the screen ? I'm now used to navigate with Miui gestures and do not want to come back to the older way by any means !
gestures for ever ! ;o))
I've tried both and I can't really pick one. I keep going back and forth.. I agree I feel like the buttons are really old in Android and gestures a much better for big full screen smartphones like the RN7 but I guess time will tell which I'll end up using daily.
From the moment I tried the MIUI gesture system, I don't want to go back to anything else, it's just too good. Thankfully, I can emulate them in like 95% on other ROMs thanks to Fluid N.G.
I still prefer buttons.
I'm a bit faster with them and i use the press and hold functions (torch etc.)
A clean fullscreen is more pretty, no doubt.
But on a 19.5:9 screen, i don't care if i lose that 1cm at the bottom.
I got used to the one button nav from my previous Moto g5 plus. So I enabled full screen gestures day one after getting the note 7. It's better than the soft buttons and easier to navigate around on this tall screen.
Gestures all the way, it really makes you feel better with 6.x screens, fluid and easy to learn
gestures exclusively. When I received a blackberry Z30 for my job in 2014, I really loved the gestures they implemented. It allowed for a smaller chin and more screen real estate. Ever since then I had to go "back" to regular buttons when they upgraded me to an android phone and when I switched to android privately, and it felt like a step back.
Now that we have those full body phones, using gestures feels great again.
I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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+1. For example, telegram. I prefer buttons for now
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I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
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haha, same here.
However, I also have gestures, loads of them, using Gesture Control. I still like the phone buttons to be present, and Gesture Control over MIUI's own gestures which are just too elementary, too limited.
Tried gestures. Didn't like. Went back to buttons. Maybe Android 10 or MIUI will improve things, but I'm staying with buttons for now.
Gestures. More real estate and actually I find it easier to navigate with gestures.
I am using gestures for 3 months now,only thing buttons are better for me is double tap to go to previous app is faster and I find it easier to start multitasking by just holding one button and picking 2nd app, then swipe and hold,then press and hold and click again then choose 2nd app.
Hey everybody,
I've run into a recent annoyance since upgrading to Android 10 on my Samsung S10. I'm using gboard (same as prior to the update) with the google launcher. My issue arrives with swipe gestures, when I swipe to go home or recent apps the swipe interacts with the keyboard. Recents inputs "my" before sending me to recents and home is typically a "space" before going back to my homescreen. It's a minor nuisance that can be avoided by swiping the back key minimizing the keyboard before interacting with either of the other gestures.
I'm curious if anybody else has this issue because it definitely wasn't a problem in the previous version of android. I don't know if it comes down to increased sensitivity or swipe gestures just not playing well with keyboards in general now?
Any help is much appreciated!
I 've also made a topic about this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/help/space-bar-problem-using-gesture-t4018985
The strange thing is that only a few users here have mentioned it, although all my friends who also have the S10, have the same problem after the update to android 10.
I can reproduce the same issue with a space being inserted on my S10+. Having said that, as an early adopter of gestures going back to BlackBerry 10 days, the more natural movement for your finger (assuming you are right handed) is not a straight swipe up to go home, rather a sweep from bottom to the right. It's hard to describe the exact movement but in effect you're "tossing away the currently running app". It's the same gesture you would in principle use to open the app carousel, but the difference is that when you're using a carousel, you would do the sweep, then pause briefly, where as just a sweep will take you to home. Doing an arc sweep from one end to the other will actually allow you to move from app to app without ever using the carousel.
So yes, I short I can reproduce the same behaviour you are seeing with the spacebar and inserting a space, but only if I go back home by swiping straight up. Otherwise, I don't see the issue. Since I never swipe straight up, I don't see this issue during my day to day.
Still having this issue
Using a Note 10+ with Android 10 and an up-to-date Gboard.
So few people are mentioning this issue. It's nuts! I just tried the arch swiping and still have keyboard interaction, worse than with just swiping up. I have disabled the black bar at the bottom, like everyone else. I'm starting to think that it was put there to prevent keyboard interaction, which is BS. I got rid of my notification bar to prevent the burn in there. Putting a new box there will just highlight that area with burn in again.
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I can reproduce the same issue with a space being inserted on my S10+. Having said that, as an early adopter of gestures going back to BlackBerry 10 days, the more natural movement for your finger (assuming you are right handed) is not a straight swipe up to go home, rather a sweep from bottom to the right. It's hard to describe the exact movement but in effect you're "tossing away the currently running app". It's the same gesture you would in principle use to open the app carousel, but the difference is that when you're using a carousel, you would do the sweep, then pause briefly, where as just a sweep will take you to home. Doing an arc sweep from one end to the other will actually allow you to move from app to app without ever using the carousel.
So yes, I short I can reproduce the same behaviour you are seeing with the spacebar and inserting a space, but only if I go back home by swiping straight up. Otherwise, I don't see the issue. Since I never swipe straight up, I don't see this issue during my day to day.
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Giving this thread a bump. This is a very annoying issue. Swiping my multitask (left) gesture and my keyboard types "zzz" (must have saved that) prior to initiating the gesture action. Swiping for home presses the spacebar before the gesture action. Only swiping the back gesture works without causing any keyboard input. This was definitely not a problem pre- Android10/OneUI2 update.
I'm having the same issue and it's driving me crazy! using Gboard here. In every message thread, when I'm done responding, swiping up to go home will insert a space, or some random chacacters because of this bug.
I don't seem to have the same problem on my Galaxy Tab S4.
2 years late and same issue persists, I just got an s22 ultra and experience the same, if was not fixed in 2yrs I guess will never be fixed
Yep, same issue here with my S22U and it drives me crazy. I'm ready to sell this thing. I would never switch, but now I know why people switch to iPhones.
I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
As far as I know, you can't get rid of the navbar without root. FNG works with root though you have to get rid of the navbar yourself.
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I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
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Not having that slowness issue with gestures on Nova on either my first nor replacement Pixel 5 - swiping up to go home is snappy, definitely not waiting for icons and widgets to populate.
I think you may have a unique issue as I've seen a couple posts talk about using Nova with the Pixel 5 and never any mention of such a terrible issue.
Hello all,
I'm struggling to do something that has never previously been difficult on former Android devices I've owned.
Is there a simple non-root or adb way to switch the back and recents button in the navigation bar? I've tried a few apps and everything just draws over the existing bar, it's not a super helpful solution. I think custom navigation bar did this but it's not currently compatible with pixel 7 in play store.
Also is there a way to remove the accessibility shortcut on the navigation bar (little man) ? I have tried everything on every article I've read, it's still there.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Sanjay
I second this. Really getting old reaching completely across the screen to press the most common button you use.
Doesnt understand why Google not implement this? I only root so i can use @tulsadivers magisk mod to change this. Hopefully it comes to pixel 7. Otherwise im waiting for linage
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Doesnt understand why Google not implement this? I only root so i can use @tulsadivers magisk mod to change this. Hopefully it comes to pixel 7. Otherwise im waiting for linage
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I gotta say once I tried navigation gestures and got use to using them I would never go back to using 3 button navigation, and the sensitivity level seems to be so much better with pixel 7 that the gesture required to do a task is very smooth . Maybe it's because I keep the screen protector mode on even though I have no protector, anyways just my opinion on the navigation options, I sure people feel just as strongly why they use the 3 button navigation, not trying to start a war, cheers
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I gotta say once I tried navigation gestures and got use to using them I would never go back to using 3 button navigation, and the sensitivity level seems to be so much better with pixel 7 that the gesture required to do a task is very smooth . Maybe it's because I keep the screen protector mode on even though I have no protector, anyways just my opinion on the navigation options, I sure people feel just as strongly why they use the 3 button navigation, not trying to start a war, cheers
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Cant stand gestures, but i will flash linage as soon as it arrives
Tried gestures for a few week. It's terrible. Switched back to the buttons.
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Tried gestures for a few week. It's terrible. Switched back to the buttons.
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Unfortunately I had an iPhone for a while and got used to them.
However, we can't we have both at the same time? An actual factual back button is just less frustrating sometimes.