Hey everybody,
I've run into a recent annoyance since upgrading to Android 10 on my Samsung S10. I'm using gboard (same as prior to the update) with the google launcher. My issue arrives with swipe gestures, when I swipe to go home or recent apps the swipe interacts with the keyboard. Recents inputs "my" before sending me to recents and home is typically a "space" before going back to my homescreen. It's a minor nuisance that can be avoided by swiping the back key minimizing the keyboard before interacting with either of the other gestures.
I'm curious if anybody else has this issue because it definitely wasn't a problem in the previous version of android. I don't know if it comes down to increased sensitivity or swipe gestures just not playing well with keyboards in general now?
Any help is much appreciated!
I 've also made a topic about this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/help/space-bar-problem-using-gesture-t4018985
The strange thing is that only a few users here have mentioned it, although all my friends who also have the S10, have the same problem after the update to android 10.
I can reproduce the same issue with a space being inserted on my S10+. Having said that, as an early adopter of gestures going back to BlackBerry 10 days, the more natural movement for your finger (assuming you are right handed) is not a straight swipe up to go home, rather a sweep from bottom to the right. It's hard to describe the exact movement but in effect you're "tossing away the currently running app". It's the same gesture you would in principle use to open the app carousel, but the difference is that when you're using a carousel, you would do the sweep, then pause briefly, where as just a sweep will take you to home. Doing an arc sweep from one end to the other will actually allow you to move from app to app without ever using the carousel.
So yes, I short I can reproduce the same behaviour you are seeing with the spacebar and inserting a space, but only if I go back home by swiping straight up. Otherwise, I don't see the issue. Since I never swipe straight up, I don't see this issue during my day to day.
Still having this issue
Using a Note 10+ with Android 10 and an up-to-date Gboard.
So few people are mentioning this issue. It's nuts! I just tried the arch swiping and still have keyboard interaction, worse than with just swiping up. I have disabled the black bar at the bottom, like everyone else. I'm starting to think that it was put there to prevent keyboard interaction, which is BS. I got rid of my notification bar to prevent the burn in there. Putting a new box there will just highlight that area with burn in again.
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I can reproduce the same issue with a space being inserted on my S10+. Having said that, as an early adopter of gestures going back to BlackBerry 10 days, the more natural movement for your finger (assuming you are right handed) is not a straight swipe up to go home, rather a sweep from bottom to the right. It's hard to describe the exact movement but in effect you're "tossing away the currently running app". It's the same gesture you would in principle use to open the app carousel, but the difference is that when you're using a carousel, you would do the sweep, then pause briefly, where as just a sweep will take you to home. Doing an arc sweep from one end to the other will actually allow you to move from app to app without ever using the carousel.
So yes, I short I can reproduce the same behaviour you are seeing with the spacebar and inserting a space, but only if I go back home by swiping straight up. Otherwise, I don't see the issue. Since I never swipe straight up, I don't see this issue during my day to day.
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Giving this thread a bump. This is a very annoying issue. Swiping my multitask (left) gesture and my keyboard types "zzz" (must have saved that) prior to initiating the gesture action. Swiping for home presses the spacebar before the gesture action. Only swiping the back gesture works without causing any keyboard input. This was definitely not a problem pre- Android10/OneUI2 update.
I'm having the same issue and it's driving me crazy! using Gboard here. In every message thread, when I'm done responding, swiping up to go home will insert a space, or some random chacacters because of this bug.
I don't seem to have the same problem on my Galaxy Tab S4.
2 years late and same issue persists, I just got an s22 ultra and experience the same, if was not fixed in 2yrs I guess will never be fixed
Yep, same issue here with my S22U and it drives me crazy. I'm ready to sell this thing. I would never switch, but now I know why people switch to iPhones.
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Can someone make a module that replace the navigation and with gestures like on iPhone X? I really like the idea and I want to see it on Android .
Thanks!
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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I don't know what exactly you are looking for, but have you tried Xposed Edge Pro? It is fantastic... and powerful. Probably will fit your needs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-edgepro-v2-0-release-t3525566
Besides it Xposed Gesture Navigation also deserves a try.
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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Click on the edge of the screen? Or maybe hold?
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What would be the gesture for the back button? Swiping to the sides switches apps in the iPhone. The android ui relies on the back button.
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I use swipe down on right edge center.
Up is menu.
Press and hold top is fast upwards.
Press and hold bottom is fast downwards.
Press and hold center is a pie app switching related.
Press and hold left edge center is general pie.
Press and hold bottom edge center is a pie clipboard related.
And lots of other stuff..... All with Xposed Edge Pro.
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I love UI changes, so over the years I've tried things like Android Pie, Gesture control, exposed modules, and even multi window stuff all the way back in the tablet days of Android Honeycomb.
The problem is the lack of response breaks them.
When I swipe from the bottom I need instant feedback (visual/audio/haptic or all three) as to whether or not the phone thinks I'm scrolling down or going home.
When I realize I am scrolling down/going home and I want to be doing the opposite action, I need to be able to stop the gesture mid-way and reverse my action.
I need to easily be able to distinguish between the two gestures so that if I do mess up, I know what to do to get the desired result.
I need all other apps to accommodate/not request this gesture.
The iPhone does this well by having a bottom bar, you pull the bar up to go home, you swipe somewhere else to scroll. There is instant visual feedback, and the action can be stopped midway.
For Android here is a non-clone example.
1. Have a bubble/circle (looks like a chat-head) right where the home button is.
2. Swiping up behaves similar to pulling down (refreshing) on chrome/many apps. You start pulling and there is an animation but the action does execute till a certain threshold.
3. Swiping right-to-left has similar animation but for back button
4. Swiping left-to-right does the same but for multitasking
5. Long press for something else
This is not radically different from other gestures or Android Pie, but I believe the small changes and refinements would take it from being impractical to smooth and enjoyable.
I like the new iPhone X's "swipe bar" and I would love to find it on my android phone.
In my opinion a dedicated visible bar is better than "swipe on the edges".
Why? Because even "swipe on the edges" works obviously with a small area of the screen (otherwise is impossible to detect swipe gestures), but this area is transparent, which is cool but also bad: sometimes when you just tap on that area (when you're typing on the keyboard for example) an involuntary swipe is detected.
So in my opinion a visible bar like the current navigation bar is necessary.
But is definitely unneccessary such a big area!
So I imagine the perfect "swipe bar" a small, minimal and animated (when touched) area.
User should be able to map up to 4 different swipe gestures (up, right, down and left) and tap gestures (one tap, double tap, long press, ...)
I drew some concepts of the "swipe bar", what you guys think?
photos.app.goo.gl/opZhtO8aYvTB3ow92
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Can someone make a module that replace the navigation and with gestures like on iPhone X? I really like the idea and I want to see it on Android .
Thanks!
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You mean something like this
Anyone notice that the alternate characters on the Samsung keyboard is slow to respond? It works fine, I just find myself having to long press longer to get the alternate character. Causes me to make mistake quite often.
My Note 5 & Note 2 werenxt (<- see) this slow to respond. Anyway to remedy this? I've been comparing with my Note 5 & on the Note 8 itxs definitely slower to respond.
Yeah, it's pretty strange that Samsung doesn't include an option to adjust the response time like you can on third party keyboards. I'd suggest just trying out SwiftKey or others because it can definitely get annoying not getting the special key you want as fast as you want. Champagne problems, I know, but still. It's annoying, nonetheless.
EDIT: As you can see from the attached photo, SwiftKey (which I'm using) has this option but the stock Samsung keyboard does NOT offer it. Shame.
Yeah, same here. I like the Samsung keyboard because when apply a theme the keyboard is included. However, the special character problem plus the auto correct being so bad, I may have to switch.
Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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Same here I like the Samsung keyboard because of it's features, the spen integration is the main one. Themes is also another.
I think I found a fix. Not sure if it's just in my head but it seems like it's ok now & I haven't made a mistake yet since the change. I disabled swipe to type. Well actually I changed it to cursor control, that's how I had it set on my N5. It makes sense as maybe the keyboard is sensing that you may be attemtping to swipe to type a word & causes the delay.
Now to fix my space bar issue but that's just me & my stubby thumb. I keep hitting letters or the period instead of the space bar. Same issue on my N5 & with the N8 being longer it's not helping in landscape mode. Tried changing the keyboard size but then all the letters are too far apart.
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The short spacebar on Samsung keyboards is the ONLY reason I have always used Gboard. Shame Samsung never revised it yet.
Like yourself I always hit period instead of space.
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Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
Zorachus said:
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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what he said
Only the 3 and 3 XL has this option, the 4 and 4 XL does not.
It's gone. And that's probably because so many people *****ed about it being half baked so I can't blame them for removing it.
There is this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80667349&postcount=2
It's 3-button but it works like a charm
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Zorachus said:
Been trying hard to get used to the gesture navigation the past week I've had my Pixel 4 XL, but so used to a dedicated Back button, it's one of the things I've always liked about Android going back a decade, of always having a back button, and one of the reasons I hate iPhone, because they never had one.
Swiping to go back is the dumbest ****ing idea ever. So stupid. Like when in Messages, I'll swipe to go back, but then erase a text by accident. Or having to swipe more than once to have it actually work.
I liked the Android 9, two button navigation, wish we could go back to that. Right now I went old school to the 3 button nav, it's ok, and it sure as hell is quicker and works every time, compared to the lame gesture based navigation. But of the three, I prefer the Android 9 version best.
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Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
scoonie said:
Settings, system, gestures, system navigation.....
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Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
Zorachus said:
Only two options there:
iPhone like gesture
Old 3 button layout
Where's the 2 button Android 9 navigation I have on my Pixel 3 XL?
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ITS GONE!!! pixel 4 ditched it. Rightfully so.
my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Sounds like you're trying to perform the back gesture where the keyboard is. Try doing in above the keyboard so it doesn't do any actions on your keyboard. Personally I switched to fluid navigation gestures because they offer more customization for where the gestures can be performed along with additional features.
Zorachus said:
my beef with the gesture navigation, is the lack of no Back key. And when in the Messages app, when I swipe back to go the home screen, half the time I need to swipe twice, or many times it erases a message, and I have to press Undo to bring back
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Lol I've done that in the message app too. They seriously need to allow us to disable swipe to archive.
The real problem is lack of adjustment: You cant change the swipe length, trigger window, remove unused gestures, re task the gesture windows to a different function and so on. As an example I'd be rid of the swipe to assistant out of the corner immediately. That one is particularly egregious since you have 5 different shortcuts to the function within a few inches of each other and to me that means I've got 4 wasted shortcuts on my desktop, the most valuable real estate on a phone.
Like others I use a different gesture program which has much more customization, NV gestures. I have run into a problem though where when I have it enabled it wont allow the newer assistant, instead the assistant pops out old school across the bottom quarter of the screen and without the instant transcription. I'm using Action Launcher but get the same behavior on the stock launcher with the gestures. Anyone run into this one?
Since I recently switched to a Galaxy S10+, I donated my Mi A2 to my girlfriend. After I fully wiped my phone, she installed it like any other new phone and finished the wizard. All her apps got reinstalled nicely and everything looked nice.
But now the home button (3 button nav) sometimes just stops responding to a single press. When I hold the button I do get the Google Assistant as expected, but single press doesn't take me to the home screen. After a reboot everything is back to normal, but only for a while. The button does show the colored dots when I press it.
What could be wrong? It looks a bit like some process is blocking it to prevent exiting a wizard or something (I had it once on a Pixal tablet, which thought I had the setup wizard open), but the back button does work as expected and I can navigate using different methods.
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Since I recently switched to a Galaxy S10+, I donated my Mi A2 to my girlfriend. After I fully wiped my phone, she installed it like any other new phone and finished the wizard. All her apps got reinstalled nicely and everything looked nice.
But now the home button (3 button nav) sometimes just stops responding to a single press. When I hold the button I do get the Google Assistant as expected, but single press doesn't take me to the home screen. After a reboot everything is back to normal, but only for a while. The button does show the colored dots when I press it.
What could be wrong? It looks a bit like some process is blocking it to prevent exiting a wizard or something (I had it once on a Pixal tablet, which thought I had the setup wizard open), but the back button does work as expected and I can navigate using different methods.
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you need to.provide more info to get the right answer ..just use full screen navigation ...in settings try reassigning it different actions to see what happens ...but sounds like the delay between single press / long press for assistant is what is screwing you ...i disabled long press for assistant cos it kept giving me the assistant when i was trying to get home ....
but still.hard to say since you have 0 info about your problem here
The problem is that I don't have much more information as well. It's hard to reproduce the issue. We tried pinning and unpinning an app, opening different apps, changing the gestures, but nothing seems to trigger the issue.
I also tried gesture navigation, but that doesn't have a gesture for going directly back home. Also I think it's not possible to reassign the buttons on stock rom.
When I used the phone I never had this issue.
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The problem is that I don't have much more information as well. It's hard to reproduce the issue. We tried pinning and unpinning an app, opening different apps, changing the gestures, but nothing seems to trigger the issue.
I also tried gesture navigation, but that doesn't have a gesture for going directly back home. Also I think it's not possible to reassign the buttons on stock rom.
When I used the phone I never had this issue.
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on my phone if i swipe up from bottom i go straight home ... by more info i mean
1. device/rom/version/root status/ launcher/ ...stuff like that
2.relevant fixes you tried ...
3. short video of when it happens
anyway .. i don't understand because you can choose what actions you want to happen in relation to the gestures ..so if you wanna go home in one shot assign that action to a specific gesture
have you ACTUALLY tried my fix of disabling google assistant ..so you don't trigger assistant or freeze by holding home button too long ..
try assigning double tap on home to go home ..as a workaround
The phone has no customizations at all: stock rom (Android One), no root, default Xiaomi launcher.
Version: Android 10, march security update (up to date according to Xiaomi)
With the gestures I can choose between:
- navigation using gestures
- navigation using 2 buttons (this is selected)
- navigation using 3 buttons
I have tried the first option. Swiping up does indeed go to the home screen when I'm in an app. But not to my default screen. Like when I swiped right to a different home screen page, it doesn't return to the first one.
I will try disabling opening the Assistant using the home button.
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The phone has no customizations at all: stock rom (Android One), no root, default Xiaomi launcher.
Version: Android 10, march security update (up to date according to Xiaomi)
With the gestures I can choose between:
- navigation using gestures
- navigation using 2 buttons (this is selected)
- navigation using 3 buttons
I have tried the first option. Swiping up does indeed go to the home screen when I'm in an app. But not to my default screen. Like when I swiped right to a different home screen page, it doesn't return to the first one.
I will try disabling opening the Assistant using the home button.
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you should downgrade to pie because in 10 many people have lag , ui feezing and later on random reboots.. i think you will find in a month or two the UI will freeze up ..like what is happening now may be a "mini" freeze
pie is stable.. im on miui 12 official pie for wayne and wow am glad i dithed android1 and gave up my obsession of having 10 ..
I just upgraded because Xiaomi pushed the upgrade. And my girlfriend doesn't know how to downgrade.
Besides, I have been using the same phone with the same Android version for a few months without any issues. It's only since she started using it. That's why I was thinking about some wizard/setup preventing the use of the home button, which we had a few years ago on a tablet. But that was blocking more buttons then, so not exactly the same.
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I just upgraded because Xiaomi pushed the upgrade. And my girlfriend doesn't know how to downgrade.
Besides, I have been using the same phone with the same Android version for a few months without any issues. It's only since she started using it. That's why I was thinking about some wizard/setup preventing the use of the home button, which we had a few years ago on a tablet. But that was blocking more buttons then, so not exactly the same.
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ok no worries... maybe the work around will work ..have tried to plau around with lawnchair as launcher and using its own built in gestures to trigger home
I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
As far as I know, you can't get rid of the navbar without root. FNG works with root though you have to get rid of the navbar yourself.
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I'm coming from an S20 on Android 10 where I was using FNG to hide the navbar and had a 3-button setup with swiping from the bottom. Now on the Pixel default nav gestures it seems I can't do this anymore. I can only swipe to go home. It's disappointing. And I seems that in Android 11 they made it even more difficult (impossible?) for 3rd party apps to hide the nav bar.
Also, Nova Launcher doesn't seem to work well with gesture nav enabled. It's mostly fine, except for when I swipe up to go home there is a significant delay until I can interact with my home screen. When I press home I'm brought to a blank home screen, then my icons/widgets populate, and then I have to wait another moment for it to actually be interactable. If I touch the home screen before this the screen just flashes and does nothing.
What's up with this? I realize these are little things but they totally bring me out of the snappy and fast experience I've otherwise had with this phone. The thing I've always loved most about Android is it's customizability and Google seems to be taking that away more and more with each update. It's very disappointing.
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Not having that slowness issue with gestures on Nova on either my first nor replacement Pixel 5 - swiping up to go home is snappy, definitely not waiting for icons and widgets to populate.
I think you may have a unique issue as I've seen a couple posts talk about using Nova with the Pixel 5 and never any mention of such a terrible issue.