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[Q] things to be done on battery after getting new htc one

I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english

Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone

Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.

Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??

One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games

If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.

Riyal said:
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Guich said:
Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.

BenPope said:
Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple

HTC One Battery Conditioning
sarathsnair said:
is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.

It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.

As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.

I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much

milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?

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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.

Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.

anotherfakeusername said:
I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Where to get replacement batteries

Oneplus 3 is an awesome phone no doubt (if you don't damage it). However with the dash charging, there's a high chance we might need replacement batteries for the phone after a year or two.
Does anyone know where we would be able to obtain dash capable batteries for replacement? It would be a great disappointment if we are not able to replace it.
*it is a concern because at least in Singapore, there is 0 support despite purchasing a local set. You will be given an email to make an appointment to bring your set down to a location, but NO ONE will respond to your email. Oneplus Singapore Facebook as well as official reseller do not provide any support either.

Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.

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Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes

8monochrome said:
You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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Most damage to a battery is done at night when you charge a phone when you've gone to sleep, as the charger will put it to 100% and keep it there throughout the night, which puts more strain on the battery. (just look into Sony Qnovo battery charging tech in their new phones).
The dash charger has been proven to change people's charging habits. For example I wake up at 7.30am to go to work at 9am, as soon as I wake up I put my phone on charge. Thus meaning it stays at 100% for less time, and so degrades slower.

just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good

Prince Chandela said:
just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
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That's bull**** and bears any real usage

Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf

panther124 said:
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Awesome! However, the battery capacity seems to be much lower than 3000mah

Stay away from buying non oem batteries. You don't want your phone to be the next Note 7 lol.

Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!

Demian3112 said:
Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
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Personally I change battery ever 1.5 to 2 years. Batteries have a lifespan and degrade over time. It degrades faster with heat. It's quite disappointing that no one is sellong replacements though.

Demian3112 said:
Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%.
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Exactly. The controller stops the current flow at full charge. It will not top it up if you keep it plugged in such as in the overnight scenario.

panther124 said:
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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The model number on eBay is BLP607.
You'll need BLP613 for OP3.

Maybe after a longer time there will be more replacements, if there aren't already.
If the OnePlus's battery it good I don't see a need for a replacement personality because I change phone after 2 years, when factory support ends and I'm tired of the phone.

I am pretty sure you can't wait to buy a new one before the battery degrade to an unacceptable level.
Like my OnePlus 1, which still has a quite decent battery time, though it has already become my son's toy.
So, don't worry about this too much.

Majority of the users will replace their phones instead of a degraded battery within 2 years. Unless the battery is defective then yea that would be understandable. If you are one the minority who upgrades every 3+ years then kudos to yall for having the will power to resist the upgrade fever.

is there no one who works at one plus and also uses xda?
that dude can help us in getting batteries from the supplier of one plus.
I am using my xperia ZL since 2013. i changed its battery a while ago. now i feel it is time to change my device. moving on to one plus 3 soon.

I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one

Hilmy said:
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
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Strange. Are you on stock ROM?

DBrandon said:
Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes I am. Android 7.1.1 and Oxygen 4.1.3
AccuBattery says my battery is 87% helathy and on 2611 mAh instead of 3000mAh, but feels like much less

The 80-40 battery cult crowd.

Was wondering, how your sot and so forth is ?
I get on a good day about 5 hours sot . Would love to hear from those that charge to approx 80% from 40% regularly.
Cheers
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About 4 - 5 hours.

Please allow me to comment how mad this is. Whilst I'm sitting at my desk, my phone sits in my wireless charger stand when not in use. My Note 5 still holds a charge fine. My Note 9 will likely perform in a similar way down the road.
Madness....

Best for battery health = keep batt level between 40-80% but for more convenience you could keep it 30-90 . You also free to charge any time within that range

roaduardo said:
Please allow me to comment how mad this is. Whilst I'm sitting at my desk, my phone sits in my wireless charger stand when not in use. My Note 5 still holds a charge fine. My Note 9 will likely perform in a similar way down the road.
Madness....
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Battery chemistry is certainly madness. Not charging to 100%? That's certainly not madness.
You might not have noticed it but battery degradation is definitely a thing and keeping a battery between 40% and 80% will most certainly lead to less degradation.
A good example of this is Tesla, why, by default do they not charge the batteries to 100%? Battery degradation.
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Battery_Degradation_for_Cell_Life_Assessment

willhemmens said:
You might not have noticed it but battery degradation is definitely a thing and keeping a battery between 40% and 80% will most certainly lead to less degradation.
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Battery_Degradation_for_Cell_Life_Assessment
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Oh, I'm aware that battery degradation is a thing. Certainly. I'm just not bothered by it to the extent that I'm policing my charging habits in this way. Which to my mind is madness. But that's only my view on it. My older devices still hold plenty of charge for a reasonable amount of time for my personal needs/wants. That's all that matters in the end.
It just seems to me that paying such a dear price for a phone like this shouldn't force me to limit what I can do with it. Again, that's just my view only.

roaduardo said:
Oh, I'm aware that battery degradation is a thing. Certainly. I'm just not bothered by it to the extent that I'm policing my charging habits in this way. Which to my mind is madness. But that's only my view on it. My older devices still hold plenty of charge for a reasonable amount of time for my personal needs/wants. That's all that matters in the end.
It just seems to me that paying such a dear price for a phone like this shouldn't force me to limit what I can do with it. Again, that's just my view only.
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Your older device may hold "plenty" of charge for your personal needs/wants but it would hold more if you'd looked after the battery, it's as simple as that. Some of us choose to look after them, others don't.
Personally I prefer to look after my expensive investments, I don't think that's mad at all.

willhemmens said:
Your older device may hold "plenty" of charge for your personal needs/wants but it would hold more if you'd looked after the battery, it's as simple as that. Some of us choose to look after them, others don't.
Personally I prefer to look after my expensive investments, I don't think that's mad at all.
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Looking after investments is not mad at all. Nobody sensible would suggest this. I'm only suggesting that the manner in which you choose to look after your investment seems mad to me. That's it.
I'm honestly surprised I still get use out of some of my older devices. Most users don't tend to keep old phones around too long from what I've witnessed over the years. So the issue of battery degradation is not a big deal for them. Policing my charging habits just seems too much, IMO. Battery tech will continue to evolve and hopefully degradation will continue to improve for us.

roaduardo said:
Oh, I'm aware that battery degradation is a thing. Certainly. I'm just not bothered by it to the extent that I'm policing my charging habits in this way. Which to my mind is madness. But that's only my view on it. My older devices still hold plenty of charge for a reasonable amount of time for my personal needs/wants. That's all that matters in the end.
It just seems to me that paying such a dear price for a phone like this shouldn't force me to limit what I can do with it. Again, that's just my view only.
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You're spot-on,but,you're wasting your time here in this thread,or,any battery life thread in general.
The same peeps could be getting a weeks worth of phone use between charges & still fret over battery health/life.
They're still stuck in 2012 when phones had a 1/4 of the useful battery life that they do now.
This phone does just fine,those w/issues are a small minority & likely do little else than spend every waking moment on their phones.
If there was a wide-spread battery life problem,the likes of BGR & The Verge would be all over it.
Of course,that's not typical use & most "issues" are related to notoriously s****y apps such as FB or,are in a weak signal area.
As for the 80/40 thing,don't you think Samsung has this addressed already w/software?
Of course they do,so,any further fretting over battery health & life,IMHO,is wasted time,there's plenty of other things in life that are more worthy of such attention & concern.
@Limeybastard
Awesome thread title,LOL. :good: :laugh:
Don't be surprised if a couple of members of the Church Cult of 80/40 show up on bicycles @ your doorstep w/tracts in-hand,asking if you've heard "The Good Word"............

I have monitored the battery on Note8 for a year with AccuBattery. At installation on the first day I had 95% life and after one year i had 95%. It is possible to lose some mAh but not so much. Samsung Mobile CEO says new battery generations lose 5% capacity after two years of use. Not much. After 4 years 10%. Does anyone hold the phone so much that it deserves 40-80% pain? And if you want to keep it for 10 years you can not change a battery under warranty or for a fee? I've loaded my phone daily from 25-100% and no problem.No fast charger.
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Dj Koh-Samsung CEO Mobile.
,,Now I can guarantee battery safety. The phone will maintain more than 95 percent of battery capacity even after two years of us,,
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...ng-galaxy-note-8-dj-koh-interview-795846/amp/
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So it does not deserve any trouble with the new batteries. If you are a power user with games and others and you charge the phone with fast charge twice a day then it can accelerate the damage process. If you are a normal user, you have no problems for a few years.
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Additionally, Note 10 will be published next year. New design, fingerprint sensor in display, battery can be even better, 7nm processor with high energy efficiency,etc. Upgrade? Im yes!
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Enjoy handsets whether they're on exynos or snapdragon. They're some total phones.
BATTERY CARE, KILLS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE.
PEACE!!!

roaduardo said:
Looking after investments is not mad at all. Nobody sensible would suggest this. I'm only suggesting that the manner in which you choose to look after your investment seems mad to me. That's it.
I'm honestly surprised I still get use out of some of my older devices. Most users don't tend to keep old phones around too long from what I've witnessed over the years. So the issue of battery degradation is not a big deal for them. Policing my charging habits just seems too much, IMO. Battery tech will continue to evolve and hopefully degradation will continue to improve for us.
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Since when was a mobile phone an Investment??!
Id be as crazy as some of you folk on here if I cared about caring for a battery. Mines charged overnight. If it needs a boost during the day (so far not required on the note 9)it gets one.
Seriously. Some of you need to chill about battery conditioning.

bonerp said:
Since when was a mobile phone an Investment??!
Id be a crazy you some folk on here if I cared about caring for a battery. Mines charged overnight. If it needs a boost during the day (so far not required on the note 9)it gets one.
Seriously. Some of you need to chill about battery conditioning.
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Well, some would suggest spending upwards of $800-$1000 does qualify as an investment. But maybe I'm wrong.

Lithium based batteries lose capacity in every charging cycle but it's not as bad as some might think.
In 2015, a study by the KIT showed that lithium-ion batteries lose 30% capacity in 1000 to 5000 full cycles (0 to 100%).
The same year, a french consumers association (UFC que choisir) did a similar experience (15 devices with lithium batteries were tested for battery loss in capacity after 300 to 700 cycles of charge from 20% to 100%). The end result was that devices lost up to 14% battery capacity.
The worse battery capacity loss I have seen in an article was from Cadex. 20% loss over 250 full cycles.
So, for people that don't keep their phone more than 2years, there is no reason to be worried by capacity degradation over cycles of charge. (Temperature and voltages seem to be a much bigger problem. For example, I have already seen results as bad as 20% loss after 12 cycles at -20°C).
IMO, this problem is in fact something that is highly important for electric cars.

After a call with Samsung Support they told me to keep the phone over 20% and when it reaches 100% to plug the charger out. No 80% rule...

alex989898 said:
Lithium based batteries lose capacity in every charging cycle but it's not as bad as some might think..........
............Temperature and voltages seem to be a much bigger problem.
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I have a small desktop fan placed near my main charging spot/dock.
If I happen to charge it up somewhere else,no biggie once in a while.
Regardless,it's a small measure to take that requires no thought/worry.

Old idea for 2009 technology.
Charge when you want.

This wasn't suppose to be a debate about charging habits. But was supposed to be about asking those that use this method a simple question my friends.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk

How many posters in this thread have an advanced degree in battery charging engineering?
If you dont, then you're just making yourself nuts over nothing..use phone, charge it up, use phone again..
thats all there is folks!

It is called a smart phone for a reason.
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doriandiaconu said:
After a call with Samsung Support they told me to keep the phone over 20% and when it reaches 100% to plug the charger out. No 80% rule...
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I understand your curiosity but if you want to see some differences between people doing 100% DoD and people doing 60% to 80% DoD, you should ask on the forum of an older phone.
Battery capacity loss per cycle (at normal temperatures) is too small to be seen in such a short period of time.
But if you ask buyers of the S8, or even Note 8, for example, you might start to see some differences.
Edit : Assuming that you find people actually doing 100% DoD haha.

[OneUI 2.1] How big is the battery life improvement for you?

Although to a certain extent, we even came to doubt that Samsung would update the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 devices with the OneUI 2.1, it is finally here, and it cames with Deep Sleep Apps feature, which will allow to actually suspend all services and processes associated with an app.
This has resulted in a relatively big battery life improvement when the device is on standby with S10 and S20 devices in controlled tests1.
Galaxy S9, S9+ and Note 9 are devices released more than 2 years ago, and surely the battery stamina is not the same as they were in their first months of use. Samsung stats that the batteries used on these devices should keep a decent stamina for 2 years with the average user.
Some people have used their phones with battery care measures1, in order to extend battery life.
So, with the recent release of OneUI 2.1 for Samsung Galaxy Note 9, the battery life with the device in standby is expected to be longer (but not the screen on time), although the magnitude is yet to be determined in the coming days.
This thread is aimed to share our opinions on the subject, as the update becomes available and we can evaluate the battery life.
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1 https://www.xda-developers.com/batteryguru-track-usage-optimize-battery-health-longevity/

IOS uses a choise in his battery settings to charge the battery up to 80 % of it's capacity and then charging will stop to improve the battery's durability.
It's known that standing in battery's 20/80% capacity increases its life and durability and doing this you can charge how many times you want because one parzial charge will not be counted as an whole cycle of charge so the battery might last more than 3 years going on like this.
This choice is not implemented in Android even with one UI 2.1 and it's a shame even if the new feature will improve battery's autonomy due to the lower consumption of the apps and even if it's impossible to perfectly be able to stay in it's 20/80 percentage range, there's an app that I found that will avert you when reaching 80 % of its charging capacity so you can disconnect the cable to preserve the battery....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery

joedellosso69 said:
IOS uses a choise in his battery settings to charge the battery up to 80 % of his capacity and then charging will stop to improve the battery's durability.
It's known that standing in battery's 20/80% capacity increases its life and durability and doing this you can charge how many times you want because one parzial charge will not be counted as an whole cycle of charge so the battery might last more than 3 years going on like this.
This choice is not implemented in Android even with one UI 2.1 and it's a shame even if the new feature will improve battery's autonomy due to the lower consumption of the apps and even if it's impossible to perfectly be able to stay in it's 20/80 percentage, there's an app that I found that will avert you when reaching 80 % of its charging capacity to preserve the battery....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery
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You're right and I keep charging between 30 and 80 but this shouldn't be how the phone charges by default as you said. Many people charge from 15 to 100 and want that extra 40-50% they'll get by doing so. I found that without fast charging it takes 1 hour from 30% to 80% so it's no big deal to look at the clock when you leave the phone on the charger.

koragg97 said:
You're right and I keep charging between 30 and 80 but this shouldn't be how the phone charges by default as you said. Many people charge from 15 to 100 and want that extra 40-50% they'll get by doing so. I found that without fast charging it takes 1 hour from 30% to 80% so it's no big deal to look at the clock when you leave the phone on the charger.
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Even your right, there are even people that continually from 0%(completely dead) goes to 100% after charging the battery for the whole night... that's why what I said for charging should be a choise (like in IOS) and not a default setting.... strange thing that Android or Samsung didn't consider implementing this choise. Fast charging even worns the battery first... it stresses the battery and it will last less but at least they gave us a choise in using it or not.

Absolutely true! Samsung should have implemented a feature to limit charge at 80%, or implement a Bixby Routine to enable this behavior (for example, when charger is plugged at night)

50% increase in my case. And i used OTA Package to update manually.
From: 4h SoT in 24h
To: 8h SoT in 24/30h
Idle times are impressive.
EDIT: just FYI, i rarely charge up to 100%. So my average case is from 85/90% to 5%. Very rarely do i go for a 100 to 0.
One UI 2.1 improvements are all courtesy of the Deep Sleep feature.
I've added everything i barely use or dont need to create wake-ups on the Deep Sleep list. On the normal sleep list, i have low priority things like Play store, etc. And i make sure i white list everything i need untouched (Messenger, WhatsApp, etc) and also do the same thing on the Memory management. Solid results.
Edit: 100% to 1%. 10h SoT with a 30h cycle. It's like getting better and better.

My tab a 2019 has the 80 percent feature and I do not understand why they wont offer the simple setting actually I do because phones they want you to replace the phone instead of the battery in 2 years. I run my note 9 from however low to 100 every night but only because I dont have the option these newer android 9 then 10 now 2.1 adding more and more apps into the firmware but wont add a simple little feature as this. Also I would like to be able to choose if I want to do ota with my data! But I cant.

For me One UI 2.0 was already worst with about 3 to 3.5 hrs of screen on time. Now with 2.1 i barely get close to 2 hrs of SoT. My note 9 is running stock since i bought it at launch and have never done any factory reset. Only thing i do is wipe the cache after a upgrade.
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ankydu said:
For me One UI 2.0 was already worst with about 3 to 3.5 hrs of screen on time. Now with 2.1 i barely get close to 2 hrs of SoT. My note 9 is running stock since i bought it at launch and have never done any factory reset. Only thing i do is wipe the cache after a upgrade.
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I've Snapdragon variant, running one ui 2.0. Battery life on my note 9 is phenomenal ?

ankydu said:
For me One UI 2.0 was already worst with about 3 to 3.5 hrs of screen on time. Now with 2.1 i barely get close to 2 hrs of SoT. My note 9 is running stock since i bought it at launch and have never done any factory reset. Only thing i do is wipe the cache after a upgrade.
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Bro you need to factory reset and start fresh and if that doesn't help something is wrong with your battery I get 9 SOT all the time with 10 2.0 with android 9 it was about 6 SOT, I haven't received 2.1 yet. I have us unlocked version.

sethsmaxx said:
Bro you need to factory reset and start fresh and if that doesn't help something is wrong with your battery I get 9 SOT all the time with 10 2.0 with android 9 it was about 6 SOT, I haven't received 2.1 yet. I have us unlocked version.
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You have a snapdragon variant which is anyway much better than exynos variant (my phone) for battery backup.
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Stop saying Exynos is not good for battery life. I can easily get 8h SOT of regular usage on my SM-N960F running OneUI 2.1. Obviously I don't play games like Asphalt 9, etc but I never use power saving modes and never limit myself in order to save battery life. I play 8 Ball Pool when I want to, I watch YouTube for as long as I want to, I browse Instagram and use Samsung Internet Beta when I feel like it. Not once have I ended up in a dire need to recharge when I was outside or when I needed to use the phone. Also the phone charges 50% for 1h (I charge between 30 and 80%) so I just leave it charge while having dinner, watching TV or something like that - when I normally wouldn't use the phone anyway.

On my N9 seems battery life abit improve from previous 2.0. Sammy did great job this time.

Here is my screenshot to prove it.

It takes time to see improvement in your device's battery life after installing OneUI2.1. As the software AI needs to learn all your habits again before any improvement in battery life will occur. This process should take a few weeks

Question Battery getting rekt fast with 67w charge !

Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!

Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.

jericho246 said:
Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.
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When I test it on my old Huawei mate 20 X it says the battery is only 74% effective and it was 101% when new
I am not sure accubattery is legit or not but I never take their recommendation to only charge between 30-80% because I need to use the phone capacity from 100% to whatever and I don't plug it in until 1% or sometimes dead which is supposedly the worst thing you can do lol
I guess New batteries will be cheap by the time I need one , haven't seen a tear down yet of this device to know if it's easy to replace it yet or not....

This application give me 5115 after 2 weeks.
Dont' know if accurate or not.

I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..

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I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..
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Maybe... Only time will tell i suppose

speedtripler said:
Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!
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I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.

Gh5st said:
I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
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I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.
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Yes, rather shocking results for a month , i don't mind changing battery every 6-8 months because I'm a heavy user ( but hopefully spare batteries are available? )
Once they get down to about 82% I usually order a new one and change it and it makes a big difference in the longevity of the devices

i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%

Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I hope your right , my battery seems to be degrading fast

Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I did a factory reset since last time, and i have same result.
But i don't think it's accurate, in my case i have too high result to be true.

Android doesn't directly monitor current draw I don't think so no app will be accurate.
Regardless Li's like frequent midrange power cycling 40-65% is ideal.
Avoid charging past 80% or discharging under 30% when possible to reduce battery stress.
Do not start charging a battery under 72°F, NEVER charge one near freezing.
An 85F start temperature is best.
Keep the temperature below 100F during the charge cycle.
Low temperature charging can cause Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
Most fast charging controllers will not let fast charging engage if the start temperature is too low or high.

37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right

Jhonxs said:
37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right
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I use a damp microfiber cloth and/or a fan.
If it gets much above 101F charging will likely terminate. That max will vary by device however it's counterproductive to charge at this high temperature.

I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works

Jhonxs said:
I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works
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You got the idea