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Is anyone experiencing weak LTE reception on this phone, and is there any work around?
I sat my Note 5 directly next to my iPhone 6+ last night. Both Sprint network phones. The iPhone 6+ was at -88 dBm while the Note 5 was at -114 dBm. Pretty drastic difference that is causing a noticeable drop in performance.
I don't want to get rid of this phone but I also need it to work at least as well as my last one.
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Very possible that I am experiencing this, I don't have a good way to measure though because my S6 is on ATT and my Note5 on Verizon, this is the first time I have had Verizon so I was just thinking that maybe they lacked coverage at my house.. Either way, full bars on my S6 and 1-2 on my Note5.
I am the exact opposite, had my Moto X on AT&T and now have the note 5 on T-Mobile. At my desk I had little to no signal with AT&T but the note 5 has four to five bars. Supposedly they both use the same towers. It's hard to compare different carriers, but I love the signal on this phone.
Last week I lost reception where I normally have great reception. Called technical support, changed out SIM, reset phone, changed settings, and still poor reception. No insurance but tech support willing to ship out a new black 64 gig note 5 to my doorstep.
I am with T-Mobile and I had great reception on the phone when I first purchased it. Never been dropped.
I've noticed that I receive text messages as much as an hour late when I have 1-3 bars. My Note 3 did not have this problem when faced with the same conditions.
I've noticed it with Samsung in general....every model I've owned had weak signal compared to other brands.
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Yeah I drop where I shouldn't be dropping. My S6 got a better signal. I have to use WiFi more now.
Just for european users: I just updated my 920CD dual with latest fw/11 sept. N920CXXU1AOI3 (baseband N920CXXU1AOI3) for Caucasus Countries/Kazakhstan/Russia etc. and phone seems working better (no FDD bands missed B3/B7/B20), especially on LTE/4g compared to previous fw N920CXXU1AOH2/N920CXXU1AOH4/N920CXXU1AOH6 (baseband N920CXXU1HOH3 and N920CXXU1AOH2);
3/4 dBm more with exactly same position/repeater (LTE/4G) tested in 3 different locations; of course we are talking of 920C/920CD models
My speeds have been amazing in AT&T. I use an international model (N920i) on their network and I'm getting the fastest speeds I've ever had in my area - even when compared to older carrier branded phones I've owned.
My brother just got the 6s Plus and we were at my house trying to one up each other on features and my Note 5 beat his speeds on WiFi and LTE.
That doesn't prove anything really, too many variables in that situation.
It was still funny to see the disbelief in his eyes nonetheless.
Hi Alec,
I have 920CD and the signal bar on SIM 1 is very poor while I am on LTE. Could you please tell me how it was before flashing the CAC and after?
Thank You
Khalid
Did you gave a 32gb before the replacement?
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This has been a Sammy issue as far back as the galaxy nexus....at least for verizon. I have had the galaxy nexus, s3, s4, s5, note 2, note 3, edge+, and note 5.....they have all had weaker signals and slower dl speeds than any iPhone or other android devices I have owned. Just my personal experience and YMMV.
Agree. In lte or 4g normally only 1 bar. Samsung issue for long.
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alec66 said:
Just for european users: I just updated my 920CD dual with latest fw/11 sept. N920CXXU1AOI3 (baseband N920CXXU1AOI3) for Caucasus Countries/Kazakhstan/Russia etc. and phone seems working better (no FDD bands missed B3/B7/B20), especially on LTE/4g compared to previous fw N920CXXU1AOH2/N920CXXU1AOH4/N920CXXU1AOH6 (baseband N920CXXU1HOH3 and N920CXXU1AOH2);
3/4 dBm more with exactly same position/repeater (LTE/4G) tested in 3 different locations; of course we are talking of 920C/920CD models
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Hey,I live in Europe too and just bought a N920C.don't know how to update to this new firmware,which region of update,and how? any tips?
Same here for me. I am on VZW. Sammy always sucks for reception but eh.
My Moto X and iPhone 6s Plus have much better reception than my Note 5.
I own the 920c (european version) and I have noticed that the LTE reception is 10-15dbm (even 20) weaker than my friend's Galaxy S6 Edge plus. HSDPA (3g) seems to be fine, as well as the wifi. the LTE, however, seems to be on the poor side. This might be a radio issue, but I tend to believe that this is hardware related. Me and my friend are both using the same cellular provider and tested the reception on both devices on the same locations. Each time his device was 10-15dbm stronger than mine.
My Baseband version is N920CXXU2AOJ5.
No issues on my unit, in fact I found it to smoke the G2 and Moto X in a network speedtest, by a large margin at that, on the same carrier.
Side by side Sprint Note 5 and sprint Note 3, Note 3 is strong signal, whereas the Note 5 is very weak.
Same here N9208 duos.. bought 2 unit last year.. blue colour sent to samsung center 3x bcoz of network issue, then line stable enough for me.. gold colour quite ok reception compare to blue. Now warranty expired and sell it. Really missed note 5 as daily driver, get another one 64gb but same problem.. line drop suddently compare to note 3, A8, j7 prime & A9 pro. Really sad with note 5 quality.
920CD both wifi and dual sims have terrible strength but worse on Sim 1. I think its manufacturing fault in most note 5s. So sad !
If rumours are correct, a new 5G Enabled OnePlus smartphone maybe unveiled sometime in Q1 2019. For those of you planning to order the 6T by Christmas and keep your phone for at 2 - 3 years, what do you make of this development and would you now wait for this (if it comes true):
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5g_smartphone_completely_new_moniker-news-34173.php
I wonder how T-Mobile will handle this. There are 2 chips needed and it's possible that neither will accommodate their 5G timeline. For 600 MHz especially, they may be screwed until next November or even early 2020.
QTM052: mmwave frequencies. Should cover any 28 GHz and 39 GHz that T-Mobile is deploying.
QPM56xx: Sub-6 GHz. Supposedly supports 3.5 GHz (CBRS). No marketed support for 600 MHz or the 2.5 GHz they will acquire from Sprint.
I won't keep my 6T when I get it. Going straight to a zero-down upgrade to the 7 and then 7T.
It's great to have a 5G phone, it's better to have a 5G phone plus 5G network.... Not a hurry for me.
Striatum_bdr said:
It's great to have a 5G phone, it's better to have a 5G phone plus 5G network.... Not a hurry for me.
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Verizon 5G will be out in 2019
oneandroidnut said:
Verizon 5G will be out in 2019
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Not my concern I'm French
So to summarize, it's an individual choice.
Striatum_bdr said:
Not my concern I'm French
So to summarize, it's an individual choice.
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Same traffic here. Im in America so Tmobile and Verizon matter to me,, but the rural place i live and work in will be one of the last to get 5g. maybe it will matter to me in 2020 or so. for now, im going to simply enjoy the fact that my 4g will get better and better as others move to better spectrum and decongest my old school 4g.
As there's serious doubt on harmlessness of this technology I'm not all too excited about it...
Friends, good morning.
The Asus Zenfone 4 (not max, not selfie, not pro, but 4 only). This phone have a price good in Brazil.
I need to buy any, but I need to know: This phone accept VoLTE and/or WiFi Calling ? I use a lot of time wifi calling winth LG G5 SE (H840)
Phone companies here in Brazil know about these technologies, (VoLTE and WiFI Calling) but know only about Samsung,
Motorola/Lenovo and LG... Don´t know about Asus Zenfone.
Thanks in advanced.
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I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
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Hi
I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
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Google New mesh system is NOT wifi 6
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OK. Anyway, it still doesn't explain the 855 / wifi 6 situation
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OK. Anyway, it still doesn't explain the 855 / wifi 6 situation
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Just cause the 855 is WiFi 6 capable doesn't mean they'll have it on.
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Well, obviously.
But it's still VERY strange.
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Well, obviously.
But it's still VERY strange.
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Doesn't seem any more strange to me than the new Nest WiFi not supporting it.
Perhaps, just like 5G, they don't think its worth supporting it at this time.
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/17/pixel-4-5g-reason/
Pixel 4 uses the "Murata SS9709025" WIFI SoC, but we're (NetHunter & Nexmon devs) looking for more information about the chipset.
If someone could post a full "dmesg" and "modinfo wlan" and most logs available really so we may identify this chip.
Btw, Hei John K
Arw you
johnkristian said:
Hi
I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
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Are you sure? Because the S10 series have several version. Maybe the Exynos uses Broadcomm so there is nothing to port. The 855+ Samsung phones can be possible to port. But there is no dev who wants to deal with that.
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Pixel 4 uses the "Murata SS9709025" WIFI SoC, but we're (NetHunter & Nexmon devs) looking for more information about the chipset.
If someone could post a full "dmesg" and "modinfo wlan" and most logs available really so we may identify this chip.
Btw, Hei John K
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Any updates on the mod?
The SD855 also supports 5G, but Pixels didn't support 5G until the Bramble.
V0latyle said:
The SD855 also supports 5G, but Pixels didn't support 5G until the Bramble.
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Naw, the modem is wrong. For the SD855/855+, Samsung gets shotgun by Qualcomm just to keep them in the US market. But it happens that Samsung uses another modem by Qualcomm or broadcomm. For example, all SD855 phones use the X24 LTE modem while 5G enabled SD855 phones use the x50 Modem. On the issue of sd855 that uses the WCN3990 Wi-Fi chip there is not a single phone with Wi-Fi 6. But wait there is more, some 700 series SOC does use the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip with Wi-Fi 6 but the catch is that that it's on another chip architecture. So porting is a issue, the Qualcomm blobs doesn't like that.
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Naw, the modem is wrong. For the SD855/855+, Samsung gets shotgun by Qualcomm just to keep them in the US market. But it happens that Samsung uses another modem by Qualcomm or broadcomm. For example, all SD855 phones use the X24 LTE modem while 5G enabled SD855 phones use the x50 Modem. On the issue of sd855 that uses the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip there is not a single phone with Wi-Fi 6. But wait there is more, some 700 series SOC does use the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip with Wi-Fi 6 but the catch is that that it's on another chip architecture. So porting is a issue, the Qualcomm blobs doesn't like that.
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Makes sense
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Makes sense
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well after doing research for GNSS Galileo support for the Oneplus 3, it very clear Qualcomm added a back porting fail-safe on all their blobs. I made a suggestion if someone has the time and brain to make it work by taking a 2020 midclass chip from the 600 or 700 series.
You can install DeviceInfo HW to check if the hardware is there for wifi6 before trying out software to make it work. But then you can get to another issue of the right pin not being added, like FM radio for Snapdragon phones, the hardware is there but the OEM didnt pay the 1 cent for adding support.
Edit: WCN3990 is old old old chip used since the SD835. But we can add Bluetooth 5.1 instead.
Is there any difference between the snapdragon 4g only version of the phone compared to the 5g version? Other than the 5g connectivity obviously.
Want to buy the phone but don't have the 5g version available in my country, only 4g exynos and snapdragon. There will also be no 5g coverage any time soon here so that's not an important factor.
Thanks all for any replies.
The 5G chipset(s) can suck battery. The 4G chipset(s) may be better integrated and likely more efficient.
Even were 5G is available so far its performance isn't that much faster (+20%) in most cases.
I would go with the better device/hardware and not worry about 5G especially on the early crossover phones where it tends to be a disaster.
I'm looking at getting a 2nd Note 10+ 4G Snapdragon... that's how important I think 5G and how disappointing the Samsung flagships since the 10+ have been.
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The 5G chipset(s) can suck battery. The 4G chipset(s) may be better integrated and likely more efficient.
Even were 5G is available so far its performance isn't that much faster (+20%) in most cases.
I would go with the better device/hardware and not worry about 5G especially on the early crossover phones where it tends to be a disaster.
I'm looking at getting a 2nd Note 10+ 4G Snapdragon... that's how important I think 5G and how disappointing the Samsung flagships since the 10+ have been.
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Having 5g is the least of my priorities on a phone. I was more interested in knowing if there are any other hardware changes between them, or if one version could potentially have better software support.
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Having 5g is the least of my priorities on a phone. I was more interested in knowing if there are any other hardware changes between them, or if one version could potentially have better software support.
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Pie is still my preferred weapon, no cpu cycle robbing scoped storage.
A used Samsung in excellent condition running on Pie be good. My Note 10+ current load is over a year old, still fast and stable. I can tell you the Note 10+ 512gb Snapdragon variant is a fast running rock solid stable platform. It's fun to use. Once optimized, zero issues.
The biggest change and question is how the 5G is implemented. Is it integrated into the main chipset or does it have its own chipset (which will likely eat more battery). Can you completely turn off 5G? Tear downs may yield clues.
It a long research project and a pain. Make sure the review is about the chipset you want and not it's evil twin. I think Samsung deliberately uses 2 chipsets per model and plays off the better chipsets reviews. They've been doing this for many years. Reviewers even carriers get the specs mixed up. Fun times
they should be identical with the exception of the 4G not having a modem added on in an inefficient way.
that said it sounds like the 4G version needs a few firmware updates from Samsung to hit it's stride.
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they should be identical with the exception of the 4G not having a modem added on in an inefficient way.
that said it sounds like the 4G version needs a few firmware updates from Samsung to hit it's stride.
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4G is the primary bandwidth, right?
5G is the tack on because it can't be relied on as a primary bandwidth.
I haven't been looking at the hardware architecture on the newer phones.
I'm not getting a 5G phone to avoid these conflicts. Android has too many battery hogs already.
the SD 865 was designed before 5G phones rolled out. it doesn't have an integrated 5G modem so it's not that good at handovers etc. some people mentioned their batteries taking a hit using 5G.
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the SD 865 was designed before 5G phones rolled out. it doesn't have an integrated 5G modem so it's not that good at handovers etc. some people mentioned their batteries taking a hit using 5G.
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I thinks that's probably true.
Having the phone flip flopping between 4 and 5G vs just 4G probably isn't good for battery life in the latest generation.
I'm still not sold on 5G. Wonder if that's a 5G enabled cell tower I'm looking at
when coverage is complete and phones are on a 2nd or 3rd generation with it, it'll probably be way better.
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when coverage is complete and phones are on a 2nd or 3rd generation with it, it'll probably be way better.
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5G may never replace 4G except in urban centers. 5G lacks range.
There are many placeswhere even a 4 G signal is climb on a hill and hope iffy.
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well they're killing off 2 and 3G so they'll need to pull their fingers out.
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well they're killing off 2 and 3G so they'll need to pull their fingers out.
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Heartache to those with ancient devices but those where just plain doggy bandwidths
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the SD 865 was designed before 5G phones rolled out. it doesn't have an integrated 5G modem so it's not that good at handovers etc. some people mentioned their batteries taking a hit using 5G.
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Are you sure 865 don't have 5G modem? Specs shows otherwise: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-865-5g-mobile-platform
AFAIK Sony has to disable 5G from chipset in Xperia 5II(XQ-AS62) in US for it to make it non 5G phone.
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Are you sure 865 don't have 5G modem? Specs shows otherwise: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-865-5g-mobile-platform
AFAIK Sony has to disable 5G from chipset in Xperia 5II(XQ-AS62) in US for it to make it non 5G phone.
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integrated... the phone has a 5G modem but it's an add-on chip, it's not part of the 865 SoC like with 4G etc
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integrated... the phone has a 5G modem but it's an add-on chip, it's not part of the 865 SoC like with 4G etc
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Specs clearly show it has Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ X55 5G Modem-RF system. Where it is mentioned that it's separate add on chip? Integrated means onboard, right?
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Specs clearly show it has Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ X55 5G Modem-RF system. Where it is mentioned that it's separate add on chip? Integrated means onboard, right?
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Why there's no integrated 5G modem in the Snapdragon 865
The Snapdragon 865 is missing an integrated 5G modem, a feature offered by Qualcomm's SoC rivals. Here's the explanation and what it means.
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I was wrong in thinking it was a 5g modem exclusively but...
3mel said:
Why there's no integrated 5G modem in the Snapdragon 865
The Snapdragon 865 is missing an integrated 5G modem, a feature offered by Qualcomm's SoC rivals. Here's the explanation and what it means.
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Hmm... The article itself starts with 865 not having integrated 5G modem and then mentions that instead of internal it has external 5G modem X55. Then it mentions that it's a dual mode modem with 4G and 5G supports.
Conflicting information on Android Authority if I look at Qualcomm's specs sheet.
I still think that it has onboard 5G X55 modem which is external(not add-on) instead of integrated(internal).
That's why Sony had to disable it's 5G mode before launching Xperia 5II in US(delayed launch only in US).
Edit: Read through some articles and looks like X55 is external to 865 but is part of bundle and although manufacturers can replace it with other modem if they need, I don't think anyone has done this. This explains why Sony delayed Xperia 5 II in US as they had to disable 5G in XQ-AS62.
Biggest issue with 5G implementation aside is it's range limits and need for better line of sight than 4G. Can't change physics.
A stable transmission range is more important than huge bandwidth.