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I am thinking of buying HTC One when it is on sale here (India). I am not sure that HTC is gonna roll-out the LTE enabled version of the One or just the 'normal' 3G one. I am mostly moving to the US for grad studies and I was thinking whether to buy the LTE enabled version or the normal (I'll call it that) version when I do. Should I buy the phone from India itself or from US? I don't think they would ask for residential proof or something to buy a sim-free unlocked phone.
I am kinda confused about the whole LTE thing as I feel it is..well a luxury item i guess?
And the main question, if I buy the phone from here........I think it would work only on limited GSM networks, right ?
The different phone specs have been posted in this forum by me and others.
There are US carrier specific versions because US carriers use different technologies and frequencies.
Mixed support, be careful. International models will have no 4G in the US. Your best bet is grabbing an asian model (also shipping in australia) as this has the correct 3G bands for AT&T, the euro model does NOT. T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon all need their own specific models.
mattman83 said:
Mixed support, be careful. International models will have no 4G in the US. Your best bet is grabbing an asian model (also shipping in australia) as this has the correct 3G bands for AT&T, the euro model does NOT. T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon all need their own specific models.
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Okay, Thanx. Will keep that in mind before I buy. I guess going with the asian model (also ships in India) would be safe
Hello, I'm going to buy this phone on ebay and some sellers has the t-mobile or the AT&T version unlocked for any GSM Carrier but I don't know what's the difference between the one that is sold on htc.com. Hope you can help me
The website tells you the specs, the variants all support different frequencies for GSM/HSPA/LTE.
Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.
cotsios26 said:
Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.
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Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!
mocsab said:
Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!
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Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?
The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.
I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.
The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version
cotsios26 said:
Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?
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I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.
Android_Monsters said:
The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.
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So Note4 does worth to spend around 200GBP more for it?
MattMJB0188 said:
I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.
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I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
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The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version
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I found T-Mobile version around 490GBP whereas international version is more expensive, but they say they have the same frequencies. So im guessing i wont have any problems in the uk!?
mocsab said:
I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.
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Alright, thanks a lot.
I also found N910K version which is the Korean version. Is it the one with the Octa-core CPU, or Im mistaken?
cotsios26 said:
I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
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I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?
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I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?
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Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I'm assuming the T-Mobile version N910T would have no warranty support in your country.
cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I honestly don't know about TMOBILE working for LTE in the UK - the only experience I have is attempting to use an International S5 in the US and when I tried, I could not get LTE - I assumed that the NOTE and the S5 have the same bands - if that is true, then International phones won't get LTE on ATT in the US (I don't know about TMOBILE) and regarding which bands are supported by Carriers in the UK - that is where I am completely lost - a
As in the subject.
Thanks in advice
It will work fine as long as the following is true.
1) The device is sim unlocked
2) The QUALLCOMM chipset supports the network bands your carrier supports.
If your on Verizon in the us and traveling to Europe as long as you have the proper international service package on your phone you should not have issues for 2g and 3g, LTE should mostly works fine 5g may.
Thanks for answer. Good news
I live in EU and consider buy version from amazon us with snap:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Smartphone-Pro-Grade-SM-G998UZKEXAA/dp/B08P54F6HB
Hi folks,
I am looking to buy a OP10Pro dual sim unlocked device which would support all 4G/5G bands in USA, specifically T-mobile. I looked at some options available on Amazon or other websites similar to this listing - https://www.wirelessplace.com/produ...ernational-version-new?variant=42835975471274
Looks like these devices do not support all the 4G/5G bands similar to the official OP10Pro that T-mobile offers.
Does this option exist at all currently?
I am basically looking for an unlocked dual sim T-mobile variant.
Thanks
The "T-Mobile" variant is just the North American version (NE2215). I use it on T-Mobile and works great.
As for the Euro and Indian dual sim versions should work fine.
omega552003 said:
The "T-Mobile" variant is just the North American version (NE2215). I use it on T-Mobile and works great.
As for the Euro and Indian dual sim versions should work fine.
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no it's not. the t-mobile version has extra mmw bands for faster 5G
gocoogs said:
Hi folks,
I am looking to buy a OP10Pro dual sim unlocked device which would support all 4G/5G bands in USA, specifically T-mobile. I looked at some options available on Amazon or other websites similar to this listing - https://www.wirelessplace.com/produ...ernational-version-new?variant=42835975471274
Looks like these devices do not support all the 4G/5G bands similar to the official OP10Pro that T-mobile offers.
Does this option exist at all currently?
I am basically looking for an unlocked dual sim T-mobile variant.
Thanks
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DON'T. it's not worth the hassle of buying a chinese brick model NE2210.
euro model should be fine NE2213
g96818 said:
no it's not. the t-mobile version has extra mmw bands for faster 5G
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The 10 Pro doesn't support mmwave at all. The only thing different with the T-Mobile version is it has an IP-68 rating because T-mobile paid to get it for the ones that they sell. Essentially the NE2217 (TMO-US) is the same as the NE2215 except for branding and a certification.
I found this on OnePlus community forums.
NE2210 China
NE2211 India
NE2215 Global, IN
NE2213 Europe
NE2217 T-Mobile
Let me put it this way - Is there any dual sim model which supports all the T-Mobile bands including the mmWave similar to NE2217?
In other words, I am looking for a dual sim NE2217 model.
Thanks
gocoogs said:
I found this on OnePlus community forums.
NE2210 China
NE2211 India
NE2215 Global, IN
NE2213 Europe
NE2217 T-Mobile
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This is mostly correct, the NE2215 is the North American hardware. OnePlus has really fragmented this phone's versions. Basically NE2210, NE2213 and NE2215 are all used for the "Global ROM" or International variant.
gocoogs said:
Let me put it this way - Is there any dual sim model which supports all the T-Mobile bands including the mmWave similar to NE2217?
In other words, I am looking for a dual sim NE2217 model.
Thanks
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No because the mmWave feature of the X65 modem was never included with any 10 Pro. Also technically the NE2215 and NE2217 have actual dual sim slots, the SIM tray carrier is modified to prevent dual sim use. I'd also wouldn't be surprised if they never programmed a second IMEI for these variants.
Damn. It's getting impossible to stick with OnePlus. They not only botched the software but also removed the dual sim and not providing esim support.
I really do not know what device to buy next. My OnePlus 7 pro won't live forever.
omega552003 said:
The 10 Pro doesn't support mmwave at all. The only thing different with the T-Mobile version is it has an IP-68 rating because T-mobile paid to get it for the ones that they sell. Essentially the NE2217 (TMO-US) is the same as the NE2215 except for branding and a certification.
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You should look at the spec sheet
g96818 said:
You should look at the spec sheet
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I have, the phone has no 6GHz+ capabilities, the X65 has an addon module for mmWave and at no point in any OnePlus or T-Mobile marketing does it say that its mmWave capable. Multiple articles online also back this up. I purposely got a Pixel 6 Pro before I got this phone because it was marketed as a mmWave capable phone, but switched to the 10 Pro for other reasons. Also TMO-US doesn't clearly describe what bands are mmWave, but they include them in their 5G UC labeling. The only 5G UC band I ever get is n71 which isn't even near mmWave frequencies.
I really hope that the 10 Pro has the mmWave addon module and it just hasn't been enabeled yet by OnePlus, but everything I've read seems to point to no.
Ok. If I have to get a dual sim model which would support most of 4G/5G bands on TMobile, which one should I go for?
Any links to the model/store would be appreciated.
Also, will just swapping out the single sim tray with a dual sim tray on an unlocked T-Mobile variant do the trick?
gocoogs said:
Ok. If I have to get a dual sim model which would support most of 4G/5G bands on TMobile, which one should I go for?
Any links to the model/store would be appreciated.
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NE2213 is considered to have all the bands and dual sim.
gocoogs said:
Also, will just swapping out the single sim tray with a dual sim tray on an unlocked T-Mobile variant do the trick?
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i don't know, my 8Pro SIM tray is slightly too tall,
The European model supports T-Mobile bands and dual sim, but is not certified by Verizon or ATT so I don't think a Verizon sim will work.
An unlocked Pixel 6 Pro would be good for what you want as it supports and is certified on all carriers all bands in North America and around the world.
I have got US model 2215, it has single sim. I bought dual sim tray and the second sim contacts are visible inside the phone. i believe this model can be converted to DUAL SIM.
My question is how can I flash EU or IN firmware on US model?
THanks
I have installed Indian ROM into my US 10 Pro (single sim).
Got a dual sim tray from china for this.
now i rooted and enabled dual sim in build.prop. I can see dual sim in settings but second sim has null imei. second sim is not working yet.
Does the NE2213 version with global rom have t-mobile wifi calling and volte?
dasche said:
I have installed Indian ROM into my US 10 Pro (single sim).
Got a dual sim tray from china for this.
now i rooted and enabled dual sim in build.prop. I can see dual sim in settings but second sim has null imei. second sim is not working yet.
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Hi, did you had any success with that ??
I have a NE2215 with single SIM, and would like to convert it to dual SIM also.
Thanks !!
ManuelMav said:
Hi, did you had any success with that ??
I have a NE2215 with single SIM, and would like to convert it to dual SIM also.
Thanks !!
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No, i tried everything but no success. I quit. But the last hope is the custom rom. Maybe you could try that. I don't have the device now.
I have to stay on the official rom, so no luck form me.
Thanks anyway !!