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I'm trying to understand the comparisons and the best one to go for.
I've recently become aware of the phones since I'm now hunting one for my wife.
I got excited to watch a review about the Redmi K20 Pro until I understood it was primarily for the Chinese & Indian market, and it doesn't support band 20.
I'm in the UK so it looks like I must import one and be mindful of the lack of band 20. Importing is not an issue for me since I've done with my Xiaomi Max 3 when it first came out.
But then I started to get a little confused because the review was comparing it to a Xiaomi Mi 9T and other sites said they were identical. They're not though as the Redmi has a better CPU but it is however, the same as the 9T 'Pro'. I realised (especially because of the title of this forum!) that the two Pros are the same except the 9T Pro is for the European market. Please let me know if I'm wrong at this point.
So, now for me, it comes down to the price versus band 20. Does anyone know when the 9T Pro is being released if not already because I can only find it to pre-order?
Also, will the difference between the 2 phones only be the bands?
I get the feeling the 9T Pro is going to be more expensive, how much I don't know but if it's going to be long time before it's released, I will consider the Redmi K20 Pro instead.
If you can see what my predicaments are then I'd be grateful for any advice about this and recommendations.
Thanks very much.
So i bought the k20 pro a few weeks ago and received it last Friday. The LTE connectivity is good for me in the Netherlands.
A friend of mine bought the mi 9t pro last week trough dutch smartphone seller belsimpel.nl and received his phone yesterday.
The phones are exactly the same, hardware wise. Firmware wise they differ. The 9T pro firmware has support for band 20, like you said.
But in theory the k20 pro should be able to support it band 20 because there is no hardware difference.
At the moment it is not clear yet whether the European firmware can be installed on the k20 pro since it is Qualcomm proprietary software. (this is what i read somewhere on this forum, correct me if iam wrong anyone)
Perhaps someone will be able to find a solution for that, but i don't know for sure whether its possible.
https://www.t-mobile.com/devices/5g-phones?icid=WMM_TMNG_C_19NETWRK5G_JXY3B6IVGF90PZUQV18612_HP
Yea i think im going to upgrade, i love the color accents , and itll be a lil bit of an upgrade from my OP7PRO
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Depending on the price, I may be all over this. I would be upgrading from a 6t
Only difference from 7Pro is a little better CPU . The storage is down to 128gb instead of the 256gb I have. Is the Snapdragon 855+ worth it to upgrade ?
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Also only the 7T is coming to TMobile right now. There is no 7T Pro till later this year and that is going to be the 7T Pro Mclaren . No release date for the McLaren yet .
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Only difference from 7Pro is a little better CPU . The storage is down to 128gb instead of the 256gb I have. Is the Snapdragon 855+ worth it to upgrade ?
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Also only the 7T is coming to TMobile right now. There is no 7T Pro till later this year and that is going to be the 7T Pro Mclaren . No release date for the McLaren yet .
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Correct. The T-Mobile 7t Pro McLaren went up for "pre register" today. They no longer have the 7 Pro available. So yes, 12gb ram, quad hd screen, and 256gb storage is an upgrade over the 7t, which is the only other OnePlus device currently available on T-Mobile
I've already pre-registered as well. Was about to pull the trigger on the 7 Pro since I was so disappointed in the Pixel 4. Glad I waited.
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Going back to the Nexus 5 days, I've always bought my Nexus/Pixel phones outright directly from Google. This will be my first phone that isn't a Nexus/Pixel. I'm assuming this will only be available through the T-Mobile store, and not directly through OnePlus. If so, is there any benefits if I pay for the phone all upfront with T-Mobile. I'm assuming that gets rid of the SIM lock, but what about updates and everything. Does that automatically switch the software from the locked down T-Mo one to the OnePlus update track? Or would I have to unlock the bootloader and switch to the international version software to get updates directly from OnePlus? Thanks in advance!
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I've already pre-registered as well. Was about to pull the trigger on the 7 Pro since I was so disappointed in the Pixel 4. Glad I waited.
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Going back to the Nexus 5 days, I've always bought my Nexus/Pixel phones outright directly from Google. This will be my first phone that isn't a Nexus/Pixel. I'm assuming this will only be available through the T-Mobile store, and not directly through OnePlus. If so, is there any benefits if I pay for the phone all upfront with T-Mobile. I'm assuming that gets rid of the SIM lock, but what about updates and everything. Does that automatically switch the software from the locked down T-Mo one to the OnePlus update track? Or would I have to unlock the bootloader and switch to the international version software to get updates directly from OnePlus? Thanks in advance!
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Paying it off will NOT switch it to international software. I believe Your updates will still come from T-Mobile unless you go through the unlock process with both TMobile and OnePlus.Keep in mind, since there is technically no international version of the 7t Pro 5G McLaren because it is currently going to be a T-Mobile exclusive, I don't know how that will work as far as "converting" it to international software goes. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong
When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?
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When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?
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I pre registered and no indication of price
I pre registered too for the 7T Pro McLaren ! I have the 7 Pro right now .
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Paying it off will NOT switch it to international software. I believe Your updates will still come from T-Mobile unless you go through the unlock process with both TMobile and OnePlus.Keep in mind, since there is technically no international version of the 7t Pro 5G McLaren because it is currently going to be a T-Mobile exclusive, I don't know how that will work as far as "converting" it to international software goes. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong
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Dang! I completely overlooked that aspect of it. You're right, as there probably won't be an unlocked version of the ROM to switch to in the US. So I'd be completely at the mercy of T-Mo when it comes to updates and bloatware EVEN AFTER PAYING IT ALL OFF UPFRONT!!! That sucks... I'm used to getting updates straight from the source with Google phones, and absolutely hate the additional "features" carriers put on their version of the phones.. That's the reason I buy my phones outright upfront. But more importantly, I like having the factory image in case something goes awry. Especially since I want to unlock and root using Magisk. I'm assuming the factory image wouldn't be available through T-Mobile either... Now I'm contemplating if I should just get the 7 Pro straight from OnePlus just for the added peace of mind. Hmm...
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When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?
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Unfortunately, no. In fact, I never even received any email indicating I pre-registered...
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Dang! I completely overlooked that aspect of it. You're right, as there probably won't be an unlocked version of the ROM to switch to in the US. So I'd be completely at the mercy of T-Mo when it comes to updates and bloatware EVEN AFTER PAYING IT ALL OFF UPFRONT!!! That sucks... I'm used to getting updates straight from the source with Google phones, and absolutely hate the additional "features" carriers put on their version of the phones.. That's the reason I buy my phones outright upfront. But more importantly, I like having the factory image in case something goes awry. Especially since I want to unlock and root using Magisk. I'm assuming the factory image wouldn't be available through T-Mobile either... Now I'm contemplating if I should just get the 7 Pro straight from OnePlus just for the added peace of mind. Hmm...
Unfortunately, no. In fact, I never even received any email indicating I pre-registered...
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It's possible that the OnePlus 7t Pro rom could work, I just don't know if the 5g modem would make it incompatible or not
Also, Pre registered on T-Mobile for the 7T Pro McLaren. I'll be interested in the price, release date, trade in, etc.
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It's possible that the OnePlus 7t Pro rom could work, I just don't know if the 5g modem would make it incompatible or not
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Hmm... Maybe. I'll probably wait then to see if there is a solution to switch it to the international version. I wouldn't even care about losing 5G connectivity if everything else worked and I could get updates straight from OnePlus. 4G is perfectly fine with me for now. At least until 5G matures. I've been reading so many negatives about T-Mobile's lag in updates vs the unlocked models.
Careful with OnePlus and 5G - they are not reliable.
The 7 Pro 5G hasn't been getting support, we have no open betas and threads get closed/ignored on their forums.
Sources don't get updated so there is no custom ROMs or Kernels that work on this device.
6/6T got Android 10 before we even have a promise of it.
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Careful with OnePlus and 5G - they are not reliable.
The 7 Pro 5G hasn't been getting support, we have no open betas and threads get closed/ignored on their forums.
Sources don't get updated so there is no custom ROMs or Kernels that work on this device.
6/6T got Android 10 before we even have a promise of it.
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Thank you, that's good to know. Although the McLaren 5g will launch with 10 on it, I'm concerned about future updates
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Thank you, that's good to know. Although the McLaren 5g will launch with 10 on it, I'm concerned about future updates
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As am I. Won't pay full for. If there is a trade in deal then I'll get it. Otherwise there's no incentive.
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As am I. Won't pay full for. If there is a trade in deal then I'll get it. Otherwise there's no incentive.
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Yeah, if they're banking on the 5G connectivity as an incentive, they're sadly mistaken. Especially considering they only have it in like 6 cities throughout the US right now.
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Yeah, if they're banking on the 5G connectivity as an incentive, they're sadly mistaken. Especially considering they only have it in like 6 cities throughout the US right now.
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Yea I could care less about 5g. Home and work I get over 100mbps with 4g. I just want that McLaren phone. The trade in on OnePlus 6t last year was incentive enuff and I got it. The 7t, 0 incentive so it's still sitting on TMobile shelf. If McLaren has no incentive I'll order stick with my 7 pro.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/1/19102891/tmobile-5g-network-launch-test-speeds-impressions-samsung
I can't see why anyone would pay the premium for 5G at this point. As stated, the connectivity is just not there. This article is 4 months old but the challenges are not SW or even device related, they are infrastructure. By the time any carrier has a 5G offering that is widely available, the current generation of devices will be obsolete.
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands and you can get it in lower storage capacities than the global one. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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My buddy has the tencent version and has no signal at times, when I do on my a version. Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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Lol, I just told you. 12gb, 512 IS the smallest in usa. Whatever, I'm done repeating myself
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
Thanks for the clarification but I still think the point stands for the actual specs as opposed to the region of production
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
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Can you put a link to the chinese version a you bought on ebay for 1000 if it's even still available. I'm only seeing global version a 12gb 512gb for 1200
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Yeah, that's honestly was I was trying to get at. There's no reason to try and force yourself to like a phone that doesn't check every box for you, especially at it's price point. It's much better to get something that makes you happy and functions well than something that you forced yourself to like. Glad I could help!
FYI....note pre order looks kinda strange?
OnePlus 10 Pro global launch officially scheduled, US pre-orders live right now
The highly anticipated global launch of the OnePlus 10 Pro is finally right around the corner, and the company is teasing some kind of a surprise.
www.phonearena.com
Considering the US versions had the physical second SIM slot removed in the 9's. I wonder if OnePlus is going to continue that with the 10's. JerryRig's video of the Chinese version breaking easily during his bend test really doesn't inspire me to want to pre-order it, even with only a dollar down.
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Considering the US versions had the physical second SIM slot removed in the 9's. I wonder if OnePlus is going to continue that with the 10's. JerryRig's video of the Chinese version breaking easily during his bend test really doesn't inspire me to want to pre-order it, even with only a dollar down.
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Good question about dual SIM. I bought a dual SIM tray for my 9 Pro but never managed to get it fully working. It'd be nice if the 10 Pro at least has a way to enable it.
No 12G/256G variant in the US for now. I'll pass!
Reading reviews it seems worse than the 9 Pro in alot of ways and better in a couple. I don't think it's worth getting it especially with Oxygen being basically Color OS now.
All of the cameras are the same as the 9 Pro with the exception of the ultra-wide. For the US market, it's a downgrade in terms of RAM with only the 8GB/256GB version being released currently. I doubt we will see any bend tests on it until close to the Easter launch date in the US. OnePlus is definitely pulling a Samsung here, in my opinion. New model, same old hardware from the previous device for the most part. US models will more than likely not be possible to convert to dual-SIM just like with the 9/9 Pro's. The b/s marketing speak about not being able to deliver 80W fast charging in US models is purely a crock!
Personally, to get me to buy a new device from OnePlus. I want 16GB/512GB variant T-Mobile US model that is possible to convert to dual-SIM. Why? I need to domestically roam on to the US Cellular network as a T-Mobile customer and only devices purchased directly from T-Mobile are permitted to roam on US Cellular (US Cellular roaming requirement). I also carry a Canadian SIM that roams in the US and I don't like carrying two phones. All of the cameras need to be significantly improved and no more stupid holes in the screen. A larger 6.8" screen or maybe even a 6.9" would be something I would hope to eventually see. They have pretty much been using the same screens since the 7 Pro's for the Pro devices. The SnapDragon Gen 1 throttles due to excessive heat on almost all devices using it.
I've heard that when Vivo launches the fold in India it'll get a global rom. My first question is do we have any idea of when that'll be? Is there a timeline that they generally release their phones in other markets after the Chinese release?
My second question is that when they release the Indian version, will people be able to flash it to phones with the Chinese firmware?
I know nobody can give a definitive answer to these questions, I'm just hoping for reasonable speculation.
If there's global variant, vivo releases it within 1 month (or a week) from the release of China variant.
e.g. X80 Pro was released in April (CN) and May (Global)
I think there will be no global variant for Fold.
You can flash global ROM on Chinese variant, but you need to unlock bootloader, which is blocked after the firmware with compile time 2022-04.
The Vivo X Note and Vivo X Fold were released at the same time and there has been no Global release for either of them.
I really don't see this happening if I am honest about the ask.
Which I don't expect it to technically.
Well, I'm disappointed in the answer, but I appreciate the information. I guess I'm going to wait for the Samsung announcement and then probably buy the Vivo unless I'm really surprised.
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Well, I'm disappointed in the answer, but I appreciate the information. I guess I'm going to wait for the Samsung announcement and then probably buy the Vivo unless I'm really surprised.
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frcraig just passed on in this thread, that there is a leaked Vivo X Fold S with possible Global Funtouch,
thought you may want to know being that the Fold 4 is being introduced later today.
Thank you for letting me know!! I've gone ahead and ordered the Fold 4, since there's a $200 discount if you signed up early, but it won't arrive until August 26 and I've got at least two weeks to return it, so if the Vivo with a global rom really does come out I'm planning on returning the Fold and getting that.
I would caution anybody who's decision relies on the global rom and has the early discount to go ahead and order the Samsung just in case Vivo doesn't come through.
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Thank you for letting me know!! I've gone ahead and ordered the Fold 4, since there's a $200 discount if you signed up early, but it won't arrive until August 26 and I've got at least two weeks to return it, so if the Vivo with a global rom really does come out I'm planning on returning the Fold and getting that.
I would caution anybody who's decision relies on the global rom and has the early discount to go ahead and order the Samsung just in case Vivo doesn't come through.
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Yes, did the same, got all three new offerings: phone, watch, buds, and case... been on the fence with the X Fold but the lack of VoLTE is an huge issue with both the Chinese Rom and the possible new Global S version, so that is sad. I hope I don't regret the SZF4 purchase as it looks like I am stuck with this because of these main issues with the larger format foldable imports:
- Vivo X fold in Canada has no VoLTE (LOVE the excellent wider format size and amazing quality & would be willing to live with the poor multi-tasking, but with the VoLTE not there, this is a really big issue)
- Huawei Mate fold with the external screens has excellent multi-tasking but no Google services.
- Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold 2 looks nice and thin 5.4 mm open, but front screen may still be too narrow when it comes out
- Oppo Find N has very little screen crease in centre (similarly also the Vivo), but don't like the smaller format
You're not risking very much. With the early launch discounts, you can probably sell it for what you paid for it in the first few months, so if that VoLTE problem gets fixed, you can always ditch the Fold 4 and get most of your money back. That's my plan if the Vivo X Fold S gets the Funtouch firmware.
I do love the previous generation of the Buds. I think they just happen to fit my ears perfectly, so they perform much better for me than higher rated ear buds.
bigfire said:
Thank you for letting me know!! I've gone ahead and ordered the Fold 4, since there's a $200 discount if you signed up early, but it won't arrive until August 26 and I've got at least two weeks to return it, so if the Vivo with a global rom really does come out I'm planning on returning the Fold and getting that.
I would caution anybody who's decision relies on the global rom and has the early discount to go ahead and order the Samsung just in case Vivo doesn't come through.
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Same here, will the global version support Android Auto?
The only thing that holds me from buying the vivo is AA not working. I hope there would be a global version and to support AA.
Q-Prof said:
Yes, did the same, got all three new offerings: phone, watch, buds, and case... been on the fence with the X Fold but the lack of VoLTE is an huge issue with both the Chinese Rom and the possible new Global S version, so that is sad. I hope I don't regret the SZF4 purchase as it looks like I am stuck with this because of these main issues with the larger format foldable imports:
- Vivo X fold in Canada has no VoLTE (LOVE the excellent wider format size and amazing quality & would be willing to live with the poor multi-tasking, but with the VoLTE not there, this is a really big issue)
- Huawei Mate fold with the external screens has excellent multi-tasking but no Google services.
- Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold 2 looks nice and thin 5.4 mm open, but front screen may still be too narrow when it comes out
- Oppo Find N has very little screen crease in centre (similarly also the Vivo), but don't like the smaller format
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I have Vivo X Fold + on AT&T post paid and T-Mobile Mero PCS pre paid I have VOLTE On both 4G on AT&T and 5G on T-Mobile ( working to get the 5G on AT&T if possible).
samvel2001 said:
I have Vivo X Fold + on AT&T post paid and T-Mobile Mero PCS pre paid I have VOLTE On both 4G on AT&T and 5G on T-Mobile ( working to get the 5G on AT&T if possible).
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For VOLTE try to use the hidden menu comands to turn on or off the Carrier provisioning for WiFI calling and VoLTE. Also call your carrier and give them an IMEI for Samsung 5 g phone that is white listed on your carrier. I have been using Huawei, Xiaomi and Redmi phones and I was able to bypass the carrier blockings and getting the 4g/5G WiFi calli g and VoLTE
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For VOLTE try to use the hidden menu comands to turn on or off the Carrier provisioning for WiFI calling and VoLTE. Also call your carrier and give them an IMEI for Samsung 5 g phone that is white listed on your carrier. I have been using Huawei, Xiaomi and Redmi phones and I was able to bypass the carrier blockings and getting the 4g/5G WiFi calli g and VoLTE
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I am running with the full Samsung suite, Z fold 4, watch 5 pro, and buds pro. I really wanted to get the Vivo X Fold, even the Xiaomi Mi Mix... but was too many questions around support and looked like very little options for Canadian carrier customers in getting latest carrier standards here. I know in the States, there were some carriers that the phone did work, but none of the carriers in Canada were supporting the Chinese phones here, at the time. I think some have found work-arounds since, but software is still not as refined or supported as Samsung's systems here in Canada. I did have a Huawei Note 8 for over 7 years and is still a beast of a phone, but the old android system software wasn't working well with some current apps.