I'm trying to understand the comparisons and the best one to go for.
I've recently become aware of the phones since I'm now hunting one for my wife.
I got excited to watch a review about the Redmi K20 Pro until I understood it was primarily for the Chinese & Indian market, and it doesn't support band 20.
I'm in the UK so it looks like I must import one and be mindful of the lack of band 20. Importing is not an issue for me since I've done with my Xiaomi Max 3 when it first came out.
But then I started to get a little confused because the review was comparing it to a Xiaomi Mi 9T and other sites said they were identical. They're not though as the Redmi has a better CPU but it is however, the same as the 9T 'Pro'. I realised (especially because of the title of this forum!) that the two Pros are the same except the 9T Pro is for the European market. Please let me know if I'm wrong at this point.
So, now for me, it comes down to the price versus band 20. Does anyone know when the 9T Pro is being released if not already because I can only find it to pre-order?
Also, will the difference between the 2 phones only be the bands?
I get the feeling the 9T Pro is going to be more expensive, how much I don't know but if it's going to be long time before it's released, I will consider the Redmi K20 Pro instead.
If you can see what my predicaments are then I'd be grateful for any advice about this and recommendations.
Thanks very much.
So i bought the k20 pro a few weeks ago and received it last Friday. The LTE connectivity is good for me in the Netherlands.
A friend of mine bought the mi 9t pro last week trough dutch smartphone seller belsimpel.nl and received his phone yesterday.
The phones are exactly the same, hardware wise. Firmware wise they differ. The 9T pro firmware has support for band 20, like you said.
But in theory the k20 pro should be able to support it band 20 because there is no hardware difference.
At the moment it is not clear yet whether the European firmware can be installed on the k20 pro since it is Qualcomm proprietary software. (this is what i read somewhere on this forum, correct me if iam wrong anyone)
Perhaps someone will be able to find a solution for that, but i don't know for sure whether its possible.
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Hello everyone. First of all, I apologize if this topic is not in this section, since I am new to the forum.
I write because I'm considering the purchase of a Xioami MI 6X. I live in Europe, and I know that this phone is a Chinese version. As it is not yet known if the international version will come out (Xiaomi mi A2), I decided for this phone. Why?, because the design, processor, memory, etc ... I know that the REDMI NOTE 5 is very close but I still prefer the MI 6X. The question is, since I live in Europe, and this phone goes with a Chinese version, how difficult would it be to put an international ROM ?, that is, given that on the xiaomi website the international ROM of this phone does not exist, I can install a ROM of any other phone? or it is imposible? And second, is it so serious that it does not have an 800 band for 4G? I have seen that the phone have the other two European bands for the 4G, but not the 800.
Thanks.
The only European store avaible are in France and Italy but they don't have that version of the phone for the moment and maybe they will put it in the future because is recent, for the band this are the supported band: Quad Band (850/900/1800/1900). Becuse isn't avaible the 800 band I suggest to change the model to buy for another from the same producer but with the features that You need it.
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Hello everyone. First of all, I apologize if this topic is not in this section, since I am new to the forum.
I write because I'm considering the purchase of a Xioami MI 6X. I live in Europe, and I know that this phone is a Chinese version. As it is not yet known if the international version will come out (Xiaomi mi A2), I decided for this phone. Why?, because the design, processor, memory, etc ... I know that the REDMI NOTE 5 is very close but I still prefer the MI 6X. The question is, since I live in Europe, and this phone goes with a Chinese version, how difficult would it be to put an international ROM ?, that is, given that on the xiaomi website the international ROM of this phone does not exist, I can install a ROM of any other phone? or it is imposible? And second, is it so serious that it does not have an 800 band for 4G? I have seen that the phone have the other two European bands for the 4G, but not the 800.
Thanks.
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Hi,
For this phone it exists a translated rom from xiaomi.eu for each european language, I'm french and I'm not yet decided to buy this phone but I think I will. 290 Euros 6G 128G red version.
Xiaomi.eu uses chinese developper version, debloat it, add playstore and many features.
Updates comes to your phone through OTA weekly the most of the time!
It's very easy and fun, each week an update.
As the phone is updated weekly the phone seems to be more stable with this rom than... Stable global rom! ahah!
To install the rom you have to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP.
The most difficult is to unlock bootloader if you haven't xiaomi permission for your MI account. I had to use a browser trick with a chinese proxy to obtain this permission but you have to do this only one time for your account and can unlock three phones by month. For each new phone, you have to wait 3 days after linking a phone to your MI account in order to obtain authorisation to unlock the bootloader of the new phone.
[Edit] For the 4G problem, it isn't a real problem and sometimes it's an advantage to not have B20 (800Mhz).
In France, I live in a little village without 4G, most of small towns around me have the 4G with the B20 only. I've got a MI5C (withoutB20) and a MIA1 (with B20). The phone without B20 is more efficient because in small towns it turns automatically in H+ or 3G and I've got a very good connection whereas the MIA1 is in 4G with a very bad speed because all people are connected in 4G!!!!!!
When I go in a bigger town I've got 4G without B20.
Conclusion: Without B20 the internet connection is better because you don't use the same antennas as all other users!!!!
Aliexpress Global store has 6x global versions with B20 here
najabi said:
Aliexpress Global store has 6x global versions with B20 here
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That model also shows FDD-LTE Band 4. Seems like a typo. Only mi 6x listing that has band 4.
Unless there really are different mi 6x versions/models.
4G should not be a problem
Now the A2 and the A2 lite will soon be available in Europe. I would recommend getting one of these devices. - You will pay a bit more, but You will get warranty. Nevertheless, I recently bought the 6X for my GF, she does not mind MIUI, which is the major difference between the 6X and the A2. You can get the 6X from China, and flash an xiaomi.eu ROM, and it works very well.
The major concern about 4G should not bother You that much. Check what bands does your operator use and support either on their website or on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
if Your operator uses only B20, then the phone is not for You - the A2 should support it, tho.
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Now the A2 and the A2 lite will soon be available in Europe. I would recommend getting one of these devices. - You will pay a bit more, but You will get warranty. Nevertheless, I recently bought the 6X for my GF, she does not mind MIUI, which is the major difference between the 6X and the A2. You can get the 6X from China, and flash an xiaomi.eu ROM, and it works very well.
The major concern about 4G should not bother You that much. Check what bands does your operator use and support either on their website or on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
if Your operator uses only B20, then the phone is not for You - the A2 should support it, tho.
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Hi,
I am looking for your solution but does the xiaomi.eu ROM support well OTA common update and major MIUI version update through OTA ?
Thanks
Mi 6x stable in Europe
hi guys, I've bought a Mi 6x in China in May. (128GB/6GB on stock English MIUI 9.5.15.0) It's stable in Europe, almost 100% on 4G, because one of the bands is missing it switches to 3G in certain area's. I like the phone but want to turn it into an A2, haven't found out how to do that. If anyone knows, please let me know.
Hello, thanks for your info, I have recently bought a 6X and I would like to switch to french, could you please let me know if it's possible and how , I am an amateur in this field
Faysou88 said:
Hello, thanks for your info, I have recently bought a 6X and I would like to switch to french, could you please let me know if it's possible and how , I am an amateur in this field
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French is not available at the moment, the only European language available is English currently
You can search at xiaomi.eu there You can find muli-language transtated roms, and I would say regular ota, plus beta miui builds.
Hi to all
Do anyone flash A2 rom on mi 6x?
Is it possible?
Please share your experience...
i do. already two weeks for daily use and its ok. but i dont know if its OS run fast or slow because my previous phone was iphone 5c with ios 10.3.3 and the far i can say is the OS Android One 8.1.0 is not slow like i feel the same with ios 10.3.3
According to the thread on miui.com OTA updates doesn't work. It also bricks you device if you have anti_roll 4
true but...
karray said:
According to the... OTA updates doesn't work. It also bricks you device if you have anti_roll 4
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yes, this is true but, only if u update the 6x to miui 10 and then flash it to mi a2 (AO). but then again the issue brick already solved. The Net is big, u will find solution if ur not in hurry, cheers mate
Hello everyone, I'm from Colombia and for phones to work here, they need to be certified by some other countries’ agency like FCC or TENAA.
I’ve found the Mi 9T Pro documents at the FCC, but apparently that model will have different TAC codes, so that means K20 Pros would not be able to be covered by the 9T Pro’s certification.
Would anyone know where I can get the K20 Pro’s TENAA documentation?
Is the K20 Pro certified in other countries other than China where I could get the documentation?
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Is the K20 Pro certified in other countries other than China where I could get the documentation?
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The K20 Pro is only released in China and India. It will be released as the Mi 9T Pro everywhere else. You could try getting documentation from India but you may have the same problem. The Indian models are built in India and are not exactly the same. They have missing NFC hardware and they have slightly different LTE bands enabled, so you may find that any Indian certificates also don't exactly match the Chinese model.
Looking to get the k20 pro not the mi 9t pro as I'm on virgin and don't need band 20.
Also the mi9t pro is more expensive.
Will the Google pay work on the k20 pro
Looking to buy from Ali express
sutty86 said:
Looking to get the k20 pro not the mi 9t pro as I'm on virgin and don't need band 20.
Also the mi9t pro is more expensive.
Will the Google pay work on the k20 pro
Looking to buy from Ali express
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Have a look on the German Amazon site, it's a lot cheaper than elsewhere in Europe. They should deliver to the UK, or at least they used to, it's been a few years since I've ordered something from there.
https://www.amazon.de/Xiaomi-Mi-9T-...o&qid=1566340354&s=gateway&sprefix=k20&sr=8-1
If you go with AliExpress then look at this guide, the part on fixing gpay should be relevant if you then change the ROM. Even if you flash the official global ROM you won't be able to relock the bootloader, so this should still be relevant.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...-xiaomi-eu-rom-fix-gpay-t3946342/post79859363
Cheers Robbo
I already have the mi9t standard I just want the sd855 for emulating purposes and the 4k 60fps
Is it worth buying the K20 Pro?
I'm comfortable with custom ROM flashing procedures.
Or is it better to pay for. MI 9T Pro?
I hear, even the global versions are not easier to unlock and update with custom versions, so it might not worth the trouble of getting this one, and go for a Chinese K20 Pro.
Anyone can comment on some quality differences?
Anyone in Europe feels a lack of coverage due to the missing B20 LTE band?
Is this still a good budget decision or better wait and invest in a more mainstream device?
Would always recommend the 9T Pro officially from the EU.
It comes with everything working correct (NFC, band 20, WidevineL1), switching ad's off means really off and Global EU Rom is that good that no other Rom is required so you can leave it locked.
And warranty is under EU law!!
For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
that's your choice, i use to say that: everything comes with a cost and a price. I believe the money you save for getting k20 pro is paid for acquiring knowledge and working to make everything runs just fine... (I personally like this kind of stuff, like most of one here, but some people do not)...
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For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
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It seems very hard to find an EU seller of MI 9T Pro.
Because there's no B20 support.
Do you know of seller that ships ?
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that's your choice, i use to say that: everything comes with a cost and a price. I believe the money you save for getting k20 pro is paid for acquiring knowledge and working to make everything runs just fine... (I personally like this kind of stuff, like most of one here, but some people do not)...
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10x, I too like messing with the phone. So I won't keep it locked anyhow.
Just wondering if it's worth to buy this toy... Or wait for another.
mwarner said:
For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
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Gpay has been broke for a while pal
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Gpay has been broke for a while pal
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I used my phone to buy some stuff from the local supermarket just this afternoon, so the fixes I linked to above certainly work on my device.
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It seems very hard to find an EU seller of MI 9T Pro.
Because there's no B20 support.
Do you know of seller that ships ?
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The Mi 9T Pro does have Band 20 support. You can either buy it locally or use a price comparison site for imports like Kimovil.
zagzag99 said:
Is it worth buying the K20 Pro?
I'm comfortable with custom ROM flashing procedures.
Or is it better to pay for. MI 9T Pro?
I hear, even the global versions are not easier to unlock and update with custom versions, so it might not worth the trouble of getting this one, and go for a Chinese K20 Pro.
Anyone can comment on some quality differences?
Anyone in Europe feels a lack of coverage due to the missing B20 LTE band?
Is this still a good budget decision or better wait and invest in a more mainstream device?
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I have the k20 pro and the band 20 is not an issue for me. I live in albania and use the 4g normally. To me it's a great phone. Beautiful display and performance. I have isntalled eu rom android 10 and gcam. Definitely would advise buying this one over mi9t pro.
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I used my phone to buy some stuff from the local supermarket just this afternoon, so the fixes I linked to above certainly work on my device.
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The Mi 9T Pro does have Band 20 support. You can either buy it locally or use a price comparison site for imports like Kimovil.
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I've just tried from your link and it won't work here in the uk
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I've just tried from your link and it won't work here in the uk
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I am from the UK too & managed to set it up correctly and re-assign my Natwest credit card to Google Pay on my device.
Sorry offtopic, but, 4g band 20 is the only available on uk?
I'm interested in buying the Global variant from Giztop. The X3 is 720$ and the Pro Variant is 900$. The specs look identical expect for the 870 and 888. One could also argue the 870 Is the better chipset due to the 888 Heating issues. Also I live in the united states, will the Charger included work in my country or will I need to get an adapter??
I have a x3 pro at the moment, i got the global variant, so EU adapter, i believe if u get the global version you get the EU adapter and need to use your own converter, if you want the 888 variant go for it, since the only main difference is the specs and storage, camera is the same, its up to you, you can also check some sites, but the specs remain almost the same, regarding to the adapter as i said, you can ask the retail / the site your getting it from, if its possible to include an USA adaptater or sell it with the USA charger
And for the heating issues, i don't have those as people sometimes say, if you're looking for root / install custom roms or other stuff, this phone is not for you since there is no way to root or develepment, get instead mi 11/mi 11 ultra that is farily the same price or even cheaper
Is the Find X3 eligible for the Android 12 beta, or is that for the Pro version only?