I'm trying to understand the comparisons and the best one to go for.
I've recently become aware of the phones since I'm now hunting one for my wife.
I got excited to watch a review about the Redmi K20 Pro until I understood it was primarily for the Chinese & Indian market, and it doesn't support band 20.
I'm in the UK so it looks like I must import one and be mindful of the lack of band 20. Importing is not an issue for me since I've done with my Xiaomi Max 3 when it first came out.
But then I started to get a little confused because the review was comparing it to a Xiaomi Mi 9T and other sites said they were identical. They're not though as the Redmi has a better CPU but it is however, the same as the 9T 'Pro'. I realised (especially because of the title of this forum!) that the two Pros are the same except the 9T Pro is for the European market. Please let me know if I'm wrong at this point.
So, now for me, it comes down to the price versus band 20. Does anyone know when the 9T Pro is being released if not already because I can only find it to pre-order?
Also, will the difference between the 2 phones only be the bands?
I get the feeling the 9T Pro is going to be more expensive, how much I don't know but if it's going to be long time before it's released, I will consider the Redmi K20 Pro instead.
If you can see what my predicaments are then I'd be grateful for any advice about this and recommendations.
Thanks very much.
So i bought the k20 pro a few weeks ago and received it last Friday. The LTE connectivity is good for me in the Netherlands.
A friend of mine bought the mi 9t pro last week trough dutch smartphone seller belsimpel.nl and received his phone yesterday.
The phones are exactly the same, hardware wise. Firmware wise they differ. The 9T pro firmware has support for band 20, like you said.
But in theory the k20 pro should be able to support it band 20 because there is no hardware difference.
At the moment it is not clear yet whether the European firmware can be installed on the k20 pro since it is Qualcomm proprietary software. (this is what i read somewhere on this forum, correct me if iam wrong anyone)
Perhaps someone will be able to find a solution for that, but i don't know for sure whether its possible.
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands and you can get it in lower storage capacities than the global one. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
Sugaaa said:
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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My buddy has the tencent version and has no signal at times, when I do on my a version. Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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Lol, I just told you. 12gb, 512 IS the smallest in usa. Whatever, I'm done repeating myself
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
Thanks for the clarification but I still think the point stands for the actual specs as opposed to the region of production
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
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Can you put a link to the chinese version a you bought on ebay for 1000 if it's even still available. I'm only seeing global version a 12gb 512gb for 1200
TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
Sugaaa said:
Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Yeah, that's honestly was I was trying to get at. There's no reason to try and force yourself to like a phone that doesn't check every box for you, especially at it's price point. It's much better to get something that makes you happy and functions well than something that you forced yourself to like. Glad I could help!
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
Airys said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
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Hi
There are not such a big difference in performance ( that you can really notice in your daily use) to say one is better than the other
You can root both but exynos is "easier", if you live in europe the exynos may be a better option , there is no european firmware for the SD , even though both firmware should work fine , the snapdragon firmware may be a little more limited as 4G and 5G bands are not all the same and maybe an specific carrier service may not be available due to the CSC
Depending on how you source it (a different country, across oceans, etc), warranty might be hard to take advantage of (you might have to get it repaired in the country of origin).
Airys said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to buy S21 Ultra, after reading some older reviews and watching some videos I was wondering if I should get snapdragon (according to some reviews a better one) version or exynos? I am based in Europe.
Is there still big difference (or any) in performance, camera and battery?
Also, will there be any problems using snapdragon version in EU?
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That depends on what you want your device to manage. If Call Features and 5G are priorities then aquire your Service Provider's device.
If you're going to run a stock Android go with the Snapdragon.
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Has anyone gotten the Global version for use here in US? Curious about carriers and bands. TMo, AT&T, Verizon. Will it work without issue?
Wow. Nobody?
Xiaomi 11T Pro: Price, specs and best deals
Here you will find where to buy the Xiaomi 11T Pro Global · 8GB · 128GB, for the cheapest price from over 140 stores constantly traced in kimovil.com
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Check on that site to see if bands are compatible in your country
Pher- said:
Xiaomi 11T Pro: Price, specs and best deals
Here you will find where to buy the Xiaomi 11T Pro Global · 8GB · 128GB, for the cheapest price from over 140 stores constantly traced in kimovil.com
www.kimovil.com
Check on that site to see if bands are compatible in your country
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Thanks for the response. After some research I have found that on 4g the phone works fine w at TMo and AT&T but none of the carriers have 5G compatible w global version. Here in US the 5g used is n260 & n261 which (conveniently) isn't used anywhere but in the US.
Oh yeah sadly most 5G asian phones doesn't support millimeter wave 5g
I just got a new Xiaomi 11t, I put my SIM (MVNO/AT&T) in, and 5G data works perfectly.
I can't make or receive phone calls, but the internet (5G) works.
Support tells me I need a New VOLTE Sim card to get voice working. If that works, then I can say Xiaomi 11t/pro does work here in the US.