Disable audiowizard equaliser / unaltered sound output? - ASUS ROG Phone II Questions & Answers

Is it possible to disable the audiowizard equaliser? And get unaltered sound output?
There seems to be an issue where the equaliser is forced upon the user, and it sounds especially bad with external speaker or headphones, but not the built ins.
Even if the audiowizard is disabled it appears to not actually disable the equaliser and the audio is forced to go through it.
It was an issue in the ROG phone 1 and seems to remain so for the ROG phone 2. There's various threads on the net about it, I can't link until my account is older.
GSM reviews also made a note of how bad the frequency was on the phone 1, but just suspiciously skipped testing for the phone 2.

I am also interested in an answer.
I just made the mistake to buy a zenfone 8 flip which has a dirac system which is not possible to disable and for me unaltered audio is crucial.

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Viper mod audio sounds HORRIBLE after rooting with SamPWND!

I'm pretty frustrated trying to figure this out. I have rooted my US Verizon - variant of the Galaxy S8 (G950U) with SamPWND.
Step 1) After root, I tried installing Viper mod. In the past with other phones, I always just installed the ARISE sound AROMA 2.94 installer as it does a lot of the work for you like installing the audio effects conf file in the right folder (/system/vendor/etc). So I ran the installer, and on next reboot, noticed Spotify Eq was using Samsung's built in SoundAlive equalizer. I forgot to freeze it first but did it anyhow in Titanium. Now spotify is using Viper. Sound quality sounds like crap.
Step 2) Factory reset and start over, this time using the method mentioned in the SamPWND thread which can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/samsung-galaxy-s8-root-snapdragon-t3659305
- That thread points to this Viper install guide for the S8: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...laxy-s8-s8-t3596933/post72049061#post72049061
As the guide mentions, I followed the steps by first freezing SoundAlive, copying the zip's audio conf file to /system/vendor/etc, then installing viper apk. Since our bootloader is locked, as I expected, the step to install Magisk fails, so then I simply restarted and opened viper. Sound quality is still crap.
So in either case, I know that Spotify is now using Viper mod for sound eq. I even went into Samsung's audio settings in Settings and it gave me a popup to use viper. I can listen to bluetooth and while the song is playing, change the viper eq and here a difference.
I noticed by default, Viper comes with Dolby, which is ON. I always turn this to off and notice that the sound is better. Dolby seems to overload the sound for me (sounds overpowered and almost at times like it's cutting out). Still, I'm noticing that the bass is solid when mids/highs don't have much activity but gets distorted when guitar really kicks in. Mids sound muddied and tunnel - like . Highs are tinny.
Normally, Viper mod with stock eq settings with all my other phones *always* sounds better than stock. Even with the eq at default and turning off any gains or gain controls / volume normalization, sound quality is still poor.
On bluetooth (I'm using my Sennheiser momentum wireless which are upper tier), when turning off Dolby, Spotify's normalize volume setting, the quality is near where it should be. But, in my Audi with Android Auto over USB, sound continues to be really horrible...I think the bass in the car and larger speakers are pointing out the distortion more. I have to also manually set my volume before running it in the car or else the head unit sound level is too low and I have to blast the volume knob which makes it sound worse.
Any ideas? What am I missing and are you experiencing the same?
So I have a SM-G955U, and I just installed Viper4Arise. I used the latest ZIP from the official V4Arise thread and flashed it using FlashFire. Make sure to check mount /system read/write and leave reboot enabled.
Also, I used the installer to remove SoundAlive.
universeman said:
So I have a SM-G955U, and I just installed Viper4Arise. I used the latest ZIP from the official V4Arise thread and flashed it using FlashFire. Make sure to check mount /system read/write and leave reboot enabled.
Also, I used the installer to remove SoundAlive.
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Thanks man.
I noticed dolby was on by default. Turned that off and also turned off normalize volume in spotify. Sound is a lot better and no longer over loaded, though I think it might need more tuning. Now I'm wondering if install method matters at all
davidisflash said:
Thanks man.
I noticed dolby was on by default. Turned that off and also turned off normalize volume in spotify. Sound is a lot better and no longer over loaded, though I think it might need more tuning. Now I'm wondering if install method matters at all
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Good to hear! Yea, I turned off volume normalization as well. I don't normally install Dolby, so I haven't had to do that one.
universeman said:
Good to hear! Yea, I turned off volume normalization as well. I don't normally install Dolby, so I haven't had to do that one.
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Installing the apk from the recommended zip installed dolby atmos
davidisflash said:
Installing the apk from the recommended zip installed dolby atmos
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APK? I flashed this zip in the FlashFire "recovery" mode. I didn't have to install any APKs.
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195922231
universeman said:
APK? I flashed this zip in the FlashFire "recovery" mode. I didn't have to install any APKs.
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195922231
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Yeah, there is a separate 18th thread with an install zip which contains the audio effects conf and viper apk inside
davidisflash said:
Yeah, there is a separate 18th thread with an install zip which contains the audio effects conf and viper apk inside
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Ahhh. I didn't go through any of that.
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Ahhh. I didn't go through any of that.
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How are you testing sound quality? I'm fine with the sound over Bluetooth headphones (sennheiser momentum, pretty good ones). But in my Audi, over android auto using usb, the vocals are still a bit harsh. Sub is cleaner now after a ton of adjustments. Vocals still are harsh on the "s" sound. With my previous pixel phone in this car, sound was way better and didn't need so much work
davidisflash said:
How are you testing sound quality? I'm fine with the sound over Bluetooth headphones (sennheiser momentum, pretty good ones). But in my Audi, over android auto using usb, the vocals are still a bit harsh. Sub is cleaner now after a ton of adjustments. Vocals still are harsh on the "s" sound. With my previous pixel phone in this car, sound was way better and didn't need so much work
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You can open the status menu in the Viper4Arise app to see if it is processing, other than that, I am listening to it. I know what my Pixel sounded like with V4Ar, and it sounds the same to me. All that being said, I have to use BT to connect to the Sync in my Mustang since I only have Sync 2, which doesn't support Android Auto.
How does Android Auto work? Is the music playing from your phone, or is the car stereo controlling? I know you can connect an Android phone as a USB drive.
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You can open the status menu in the Viper4Arise app to see if it is processing, other than that, I am listening to it. I know what my Pixel sounded like with V4Ar, and it sounds the same to me. All that being said, I have to use BT to connect to the Sync in my Mustang since I only have Sync 2, which doesn't support Android Auto.
How does Android Auto work? Is the music playing from your phone, or is the car stereo controlling? I know you can connect an Android phone as a USB drive.
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Yeah, processing wasn't the issue, and that's why I don't know if the install method matters. I definitely know it's doing something because I move the knobs with bluetooth stream and hear the sound act differently.
With Android Auto, I hook up my phone to the USB port built into the car. Then the phone says Android auto in black and white, and the car display shows the interface for music players, maps, etc.
When auto is up, I can't change the sound settings dynamically since the screen is black. I think if I open viper before the car and have the notification always show, I can load it...but then it's loading a separate instance of the app, not the main one.
I had to really change the bass settings on my phone *and* the car (normally don't have to) to make the bass not distort. The audi's stock sound is junk. I got a nice JL Audio amp installed and a 600W JL Audio woofer.
With the pixel, in the car, I had the bass dial in the audi set to one two notches above mid way and the treble down 4 notches. Now, with the rooted s8, I'm having to dial its bass setting down 2 notches from mid (instead of up) and instead turn up the bass knob on the JL Audio woofer just a hair. Anything else and it distorts.
Out of the box, the Pixel just sounded great to me. I don't know why the S8 is taking all this work. Even with my note 4, I didn't have this issue of having to tweak the hell out of it.

[HowTO] Tune Up your Headphine Sound

The Galaxy S9 is an audio powerhouse. It has the first set of stereo speakers on a Samsung flagship, and it even comes standard with a set of AKG-tuned earbuds that would normally cost $99. But if you want to further enhance your audio experience, there's a feature that will customize audio output to your own specific hearing.
The feature, aptly called Adapt Sound, is hidden deep within the settings menu on your S9 or S9+, but will make a world of difference in audio quality once enabled. As its name implies, Adapt Sound will fine tune your S9's audio and customize it to perfectly match your hearing, which dramatically enhances the perceived quality of any set of headphones.
Step 1 Find the 'Adapt Sound' Menu
To start, head to your phone's main Settings menu, then select "Sounds and Vibration." From there, scroll down and tap on "Sound quality and effects" found along the bottom half of the menu.
Now, tap on "Adapt Sound" near the bottom of the screen. You'll be asked to grant phone call related permissions, so tap "Allow" on the prompt. Within "Adapt Sound," leave the available age-based sound profiles alone, and tap on "Add Personalized Sound Profile."
Step 2 Take the Hearing Test
Now, go to a totally quiet location and plug in your headphones. Tap on the "Start" button on the bottom when you're ready. Adapt Sound will now run a hearing test, which consists of a series of beeps of varying frequencies from the left and right earbuds. It'll ask if you can hear each tone along the way, so take your time and answer honestly in order to create an accurate profile.
Once the test reaches 100%, you'll now notice a personalized equalizer catered to each ear. Now that you've completed the test, you're free to move on to the final step.
Step 3 Finalize Your Audio Profile
After finishing the tests, Adapt Sound will ask for you to choose your preferred ear for phone calls. Once you've made your decision, your custom audio profile will be activated and made available for preview. So tap on "Preview" and check out the difference Adapt Sound makes by toggling between "Personalized" and "Original," along with "Left," "Right," and "Both" ears.
In addition to this, you have the option of naming your sound profile — simply tap on "Profile name" and enter your desired label when prompted. After that, tap on "Save" in the upper-right corner to save your profile and finish up with setup.
With Adapt Sound enabled, we highly recommend playing your favorite song to determine exactly how much of an impact it's made on sound quality. It'll make a huge difference on how you hear audio, especially if your hearing isn't great to begin with.
Xperience Z said:
The Galaxy S9 is an audio powerhouse. It has the first set of stereo speakers on a Samsung flagship, and it even comes standard with a set of AKG-tuned earbuds that would normally cost $99. But if you want to further enhance your audio experience, there's a feature that will customize audio output to your own specific hearing.
The feature, aptly called Adapt Sound, is hidden deep within the settings menu on your S9 or S9+, but will make a world of difference in audio quality once enabled. As its name implies, Adapt Sound will fine tune your S9's audio and customize it to perfectly match your hearing, which dramatically enhances the perceived quality of any set of headphones.
Step 1 Find the 'Adapt Sound' Menu
To start, head to your phone's main Settings menu, then select "Sounds and Vibration." From there, scroll down and tap on "Sound quality and effects" found along the bottom half of the menu.
Now, tap on "Adapt Sound" near the bottom of the screen. You'll be asked to grant phone call related permissions, so tap "Allow" on the prompt. Within "Adapt Sound," leave the available age-based sound profiles alone, and tap on "Add Personalized Sound Profile."
Step 2 Take the Hearing Test
Now, go to a totally quiet location and plug in your headphones. Tap on the "Start" button on the bottom when you're ready. Adapt Sound will now run a hearing test, which consists of a series of beeps of varying frequencies from the left and right earbuds. It'll ask if you can hear each tone along the way, so take your time and answer honestly in order to create an accurate profile.
Once the test reaches 100%, you'll now notice a personalized equalizer catered to each ear. Now that you've completed the test, you're free to move on to the final step.
Step 3 Finalize Your Audio Profile
After finishing the tests, Adapt Sound will ask for you to choose your preferred ear for phone calls. Once you've made your decision, your custom audio profile will be activated and made available for preview. So tap on "Preview" and check out the difference Adapt Sound makes by toggling between "Personalized" and "Original," along with "Left," "Right," and "Both" ears.
In addition to this, you have the option of naming your sound profile — simply tap on "Profile name" and enter your desired label when prompted. After that, tap on "Save" in the upper-right corner to save your profile and finish up with setup.
With Adapt Sound enabled, we highly recommend playing your favorite song to determine exactly how much of an impact it's made on sound quality. It'll make a huge difference on how you hear audio, especially if your hearing isn't great to begin with.
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How is the audio over head/ear phones? I previously had the Galaxy S7 and while it was a great device, I found the audio output via the 3.5mm socket to be pretty underwhelming. And I had tuned it using the similar software function above, but it was still under par for me. I haven't tried the S8 but seen a review that said the audio/earphone quality still wasn't that great. So hoping the S9 has been improved, as they have been focusing on improving audio albeit via the external speakers. Im in the UK so believe it would be the Exynos model if that makes any difference.
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I just did this and it made quite a difference. Thanks for sharing this.
gsmyth said:
How is the audio over head/ear phones? I previously had the Galaxy S7 and while it was a great device, I found the audio output via the 3.5mm socket to be pretty underwhelming. And I had tuned it using the similar software function above, but it was still under par for me. I haven't tried the S8 but seen a review that said the audio/earphone quality still wasn't that great. So hoping the S9 has been improved, as they have been focusing on improving audio albeit via the external speakers. Im in the UK so believe it would be the Exynos model if that makes any difference.
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Juice3250 said:
I just did this and it made quite a difference. Thanks for sharing this.
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For me made it a quite difference also.
The sound is very nice. And with this small trick much better.
I turned on the Atmos setting, and immediately noticed the difference, just on speakers as the headset is in the car.
Dolby Atmos is terrible
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I turned on the Atmos setting, and immediately noticed the difference, just on speakers as the headset is in the car.
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if you use high quality headphones, you can noticeably tell that atmos is terrible. it compresses the sound and gives it an unnatural vibe. I find that none of the extra features actually enhances, so i leave everything off. fellow members at head-fi have found the same results I have.
I need to try this with my beats x
adapt sound is also dependent on your headphones. you may think you have lost some hearing if you use headphones that have narrower frequencies, because that pair is just unable to output certain frequencies, so do this test with headphones that can output more, if you want a more accurate result of your current hearing.
radiohead14 said:
if you use high quality headphones, you can noticeably tell that atmos is terrible. it compresses the sound and gives it an unnatural vibe. I find that none of the extra features actually enhances, so i leave everything off. fellow members at head-fi have found the same results I have.
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For me the phones amp is kind of weak so atoms gives it a volume boost in a conveniently easy push of 1 button.
Without it over ear headphones that are 32 ohms are slightly below my preferred listening volume. With ear buds the volume is fine as long as I have a great seal. I find the included AKG's decent in sound quality but not very compatible with my ears shape so I'm constantly pushing them in.
I did the Headphine Sound setup but didn't find it to have made a vast difference in my listening experience. Maybe if toggling between profiles I could notice a little difference but nothing that makes me feel like a whole new world has opened up to me.
I've used the SHPS 9500s over ears, Westone w40 IEM, and the included AKG IEM.
I listened to a HiRes Flac 192/24 and felt like the track lacked life without the Atmos turned on, this was especially the case when using over ear headphones.
Will try with my PSB M4U 1 closed back over ear phones soon.
mc_365 said:
For me the phones amp is kind of weak so atoms gives it a volume boost in a conveniently easy push of 1 button.
Without it over ear headphones that are 32 ohms are slightly below my preferred listening volume. With ear buds the volume is fine as long as I have a great seal. I find the included AKG's decent in sound quality but not very compatible with my ears shape so I'm constantly pushing them in.
I did the Headphine Sound setup but didn't find it to have made a vast difference in my listening experience. Maybe if toggling between profiles I could notice a little difference but nothing that makes me feel like a whole new world has opened up to me.
I've used the SHPS 9500s over ears, Westone w40 IEM, and the included AKG IEM.
I listened to a HiRes Flac 192/24 and felt like the track lacked life without the Atmos turned on, this was especially the case when using over ear headphones.
Will try with my PSB M4U 1 closed back over ear phones soon.
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agree that the phone's amp is weak. the earphone i used for testing, a Sennheiser IE80, doesn't have any issues, but the stock AKG and various Sony I tried were on the weaker side. Atmos, I found, also varies on the track played, but the increase in volume you hear is probably due to the compression, so it'll give you that increase in volume, but you may also not notice that certain frequencies have been dampened. Testing various tracks with different earphones, I found that in most cases, Atmos just muddies songs.. almost like a blanket was put over it. The only times I found Atmos to be preferable was when playing older tracks that weren't mixed well and were on the trebly side. Atmos hid some sibilance due to my previous finding of Atmos just kinda putting a dampen on most tracks.
also agree on the stock AKG's not being the ideal in-ear fit, as i too have found myself constantly having to adjust (i commute in NYC transit, so this was a good test of isolation). the littlest movement, and you lose a lot of low end and volume.
i suggest you do the adapt sound test with the headphones you will use the most with the phone, as it is highly dependent on the frequencies. and if your hearing is still really good, then you may not find much benefit to it. it's mainly pushing frequencies higher if your hearing has lost some ability to discern those. so if your hearing is great, then you may not find much difference.
gsmyth said:
How is the audio over head/ear phones? I previously had the Galaxy S7 and while it was a great device, I found the audio output via the 3.5mm socket to be pretty underwhelming. And I had tuned it using the similar software function above, but it was still under par for me. I haven't tried the S8 but seen a review that said the audio/earphone quality still wasn't that great. So hoping the S9 has been improved, as they have been focusing on improving audio albeit via the external speakers. Im in the UK so believe it would be the Exynos model if that makes any difference.
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I seriously feel like my S7 was way louder... Im even considering to root this device just to edit the mixer gains xml for more volume... this is really dissapointing.
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Verizon note 9 Dolby atmos for gaming

I play pubg mobile a good bit.
I was thrilled they added this feature.
After a fresh factory reset after upgrading to pie I was severely disappointed.
The sound is all over the place. You have to turn the volume up and down or you will suffer hearing loss when the plane flies overhead or no suppressed gunfire erupts.
I've tinkered around with in game and all the Samsung settings and have unfortunately had to leave it turned off during gameplay.
Anyone else have any issues?
Atmos requires multiple speakers to achieve the effect. I don't know what your setup is and whether it is compatible with Atmos, but you should look into what it takes to make it work. It's one thing for your phone to have the ability to decode Atmos, it's quite another to have the required hardware to actually hear it.

volume steps to big / media volume sync off?

I have a sony z3c with a broken microphone. So I thought, I can use this great phone as an music-, podcast- and audiobook-player. Just ike the Sony NW A100.
But when I connect a bluetooth speaker or headphone to that device there are only 15 steps to increase or decrease the volume. And the lowest volume possible is way to loud to listen podcast late at night on my JBL go 1 or 2. Also the volumechange between two steps is to heavy.
Normaly I use my Samsung Galaxy S8 to play audiofiles. There are also only 15 Steps to change the volume. But I can change “media volume sync” in the bluetooth advanced settings to change the volume of the smartphone and the speaker separately, which fixed my problem. On some sony smartphones in the developer options you can toggle "Disable absolut volume", but on my z3c this option is nowhere to be found.
But that’s not possible on the z3c. I tried apps like “Precise Volume“, some tweaks in the Xposed framework and ViPER4Android. Even some custom rom. But nothing worked.
With some tweaks or ViPER4 Android I could get the volume lower (by reduce the output gain or lover all frequencies in the EQ). But then, when I change the volume, sometimes 2 or 3 steps remain on the same volume.
Does any of you have any Idea how to help my with my problem? It’s been two month now, that I tried everything to fix it, but till today, I don’t found any solution...
idk exactly, but maybe you can take this a hint for furter research on that topic:
https://github.com/LineageOS/androi...0d4157fc49face3baf479bde4e187cba5d?diff=split

Question The issue with the sound via Bluetooth in the Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro phone.

The problem appeared after the update to MIUI 12.5.1 Global Stable.
The crux of the problem:
In Bluetooth headphones with the Dolby Atmos option enabled, the volume of music tracks changes all the time depending on the dynamic range of the composition (even if the "music" parameter is left), which is incorrect and distorts the author's idea. If you turn off Dolby Atmos, you get an unacceptable sound. Like the headphones are losing synchronization, the panorama is disturbed, the sound is very distorted, which is simply impossible to listen to.
Temporary solution:
Open the Sound Effects menu → Adjust the sound for headphones → Turn on and then turn off the function. If the "Headphone Volume Control" function is not available for wireless headphones, the following helped me: connect wired headphones → turn off HI-FI sound. Then repeat the steps described above.
This solution works until the subsequent switching between audio applications. The problem has a programmatic nature, and I hope to be fixed soon.
Thank you so much!!! I was desperate to fix this, now it works!
The Mi Note 10 has a weak Bluetooth modem. In our experience, simply using the device with Bluetooth headphones connected can cause audio drop outs. These occur randomly and even with the Mi Note 10 right next to multiple sets of Bluetooth headphones.
Yes I also face this problem many times in my Redmi Note 10 Pro Max,the sound volume fluctuates when connected to Bluetooth speakers or earphones, temporary solution is that you have to disable Dolby Atmos and use Hi-Fi Sound,it will not fluctuate.

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