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No this is not another one of those "I've got a screen issue" thread, For those who still have their Galaxy S1/S2 or even a Samsung Wave, how deep are the blacks on the Galaxy Note compared to them?
I ask this since I no longer have any other SAMOLED device aside from the G-Note and I noticed that the black levels are not very deep, infact they are like LCD's with backlit when you view an all black or watch a movie/picture with a good majority of blacks.
Can anyone be so kind as to test and compare in a dark room showing the phone stock test image found under *#0*# ( dialer ) I've been getting reports from other users that the black levels on the G-Note is not as deep as the S1 or S2, Trying to figure out if this is normal or some really bad gamma issue/hardware limits.
Since there has been a HUGE failure of people reading or understanding what this thread is, it is not a complaint thread its more of an inquiry thread on what you are getting with your screen. Those who dont have a previous SuperAMOLED device you guys cannot contribute anything on this thread since you wont have any basis of comparison so please stop trolling.
Darker than a black steer's tookus on a moonless prairie night.
Anyone else with a meaningful post comparing the S1/S2 vs the Note in black levels?
Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.
No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2. The software bug though sometimes makes blacks grey so viewing the same video on both screens dark areas look better on the gs2. This will be fixed with an update and as others have said true black=off with oled so black will be black on any oled screen.
In gallery i get true blacks and images look the same on both screens apart from much bigger and sharper on the note. If i make this image a lock screen its sometimes grey with banding on the now instead of true black.
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Don't know about black, but the screen it's forkin bright, too bright for day time use even on the lowest setting
The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!
rigurat said:
Like any other OLED technology, there is no backlight, so the blacks should be as black as if the screen were off.
What you might be noticing is fringing, the light leaking out from the neighboring pixels.
It could also be an optical illusion (you are seeing a black object with lighter surroundings it might make the blacks "not seem as dark"), I tested it myself, I got an opaque piece of paper with a small hole in it and placed it against a black part of an image, and compared it with the screen off. It looked the same to me.
I can't compare it with the S1 or S2 since I don't have them, but with as with any other OLED screen, as long as the black parts of the image is truly digitally black, as in that part of the picture is 000000 on the RGB color model, it should be equally black as if that part of the screen were off.
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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
martcerv said:
No difference in the black levels when they are properly rendered on the note vs gs2.
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The main point of my question is not about "when rendered properly" just bring up the LCD test menu on your galaxy note and galaxy S2 and check if the note has a higher glow on its black levels. mine is extremely high from what I can remember on the Galaxy S2, infact I can label it an an LCD backlight instead of SAMOLED blacks. But if im in daylight the blacks are pretty good.
sharp910sh said:
The Black arent 100% fully black. If you turn the lights lights of you can see some very very deep grey. It black enough tbh, I am not complaining!
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Its not about complaining, I just wanted to ask for those who have the note and also have the S1/S2 to make a comparison if the black levels are similar.
Im at a loss as to why this feat is extremely hard for the people who replied on the thread so far, I guess I am asking to much.
No one has the S2 and S1 and the galaxy note. why would they? the note is amazing!
Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Good to hear from you SUPERCURIO... its always a breath for us having you here... So, can we expect some fix? hehehehhe... More power...
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lol wut?
If you have a phone with a SAMOLED screen go to a black room and bring up the LCD test menu, the black is at 000000 and you will see a faint glow, you can very easily tell if the screen is displaying a black color or if the screen is locked. Why websites say their testing machines report infinite contrast ratio is beyond me.
If you cant tell the difference of the screen displaying black and when the screen is locked ( off ) either you got the most absolute perfect screen or you need to actually check rather theory craft.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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Yay supercurio. It's good to see you.
It does have more light leak on pure blacks, but coming from an Atrix (LCD) and an S2 (WVGA), I still love this display the most. The resolution is insane.
afadzil21 said:
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Did you happen to get a photo of it?
I compared both with a clear black test screen from walvisions.com min and max brightness blacks where the same to me. I must have a perfect screen or you have a very bad one.
But like i said in my previous post the blacks when actualy in use watching a dark video are much better in the gs2 for what i think is a software issue as they arent rendered properly and dark areas tend to look more like backlit lcd on the note when viewing videos.
Whites are much brighter on the note with min brightness settings then on the gs1.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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It is not true, you really should try it before just quoting wikipedia or whichever website that quote came from. Even with a perfectly black image you can easily tell there is backlight.
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Galaxy Note black has more leak than previous Super AMOLED and Super AMOLED Plus screens.
I'll come up with measurements a bit later.
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The first meaningful post which also aims to be objective rather than quoting specs.
jaytana said:
well, Kabayan i have both... i can confirm your finding that S2 does have deeper blacks... last night i viewed the Dota2 trailer video on S2 and Note side by side... @ the beginning of the clip where there are lots of black displayed, its noticeable in my eyes...
I decided to create a pure black wallpaper on photoshop, transfer it to S2 and Note, set both brightness @ max, go to the complete dark room and view the mentioned wallpaper on gallery; its positive that S2's dsplay shows deeper black than Note... Though i have the display tuning app by SUPERCURIO on my S2 which i think we'll also consider...
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Thank you for confirming, at least someone managed to read through my post and actually perform something.
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An OLED display works without a backlight. Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays (LCDs). In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD, whether the LCD uses either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight. Due to their low thermal conductivity, they typically emit less light per area than inorganic LEDs.
When the display is "showing" black, the "black pixels" are actually inactive. In other words, the black parts of the screen is off.
The black levels on my screen is also 100% black. If i go into a dark room with a 100% black wallpaper, i won't see the screen.
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This shows me what you know and how much visual acuity you have when it comes to things like this, I mean no disrespect or in anyway be offensive to you but I dont believe that its 100% black on your end. But I respect your opinion. Thank you.
afadzil21 said:
I have an S1, S2 and Note. Showed all 3 at Samsung service centre just to prove the Note's screen was crap. Should be getting it back to day with a new screen. The S1 screen still seems the best in terms of brightness and uniform white.
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Very true, the S1 screen was really great.. it really brought the expectation level at an all time high.
There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
This is a black Galaxy Note, on a black background displaying a mostly black image. Brightness set to maximum.
Now you tell me you can see the limit between SAMOLED screen and plastic bezel
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There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.
The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.
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No color variation is plausible, banding is SW issue so nobody is excepted from it unless you can prove it, dead pixels are pretty rare that its a non issue, black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
Your screen is perfect for you, I respect that and Im very happy for you, wish I had that screen. Cheers!
Response to your added image:
Your image proves nothing since the discussion is about black levels in total darkness while displaying the black image from the LCD test, your picture shows an image displayed making an illusion that the blacks are very deep, I also get the same black levels when im displaying even just a few pixels of white and you have ambient light since I can clearly see the bezel.
Basically we are comparing 2 different things but thank you for trying.
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black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.
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Seriously who uses a phone like that and whats the point of that test. OLED does show a little light in the dark when you do that but my GS2 and note are pretty much the same, during this test I notice some darker blotches on my gs2 screen. Does that mean its faulty? not to me as Ive never noticed it in real use and thats what the device is for not to sit in the dark for 3 minutes to find some obscure issue to complain about.
There are real screen defects that will occur to some people not matter what device you get, then get it replaced. There are confirmed software issues and these will hopefully be addressed soon enough.
Many more people have no physical issues with their screens then the ones that do but its funny how some people just wont accept that and have to believe every screen is faulty.
Seeing a little light through a screen in total darkness is not a hardware fault, maybe you should turn off your phone as it will save your battery and at the same time the screen will be perfectly dark, I prefer to have my screen on and use it but we all use our devices differently
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
Do you have a screen protector on? Those can make display look fuzzy, especially the anti-glare protectors.
my n6 screen is much more crisp than an I phones..
I suggest doing two things,
1- With a custom kernel, pick a color profile that fits you; and/or
2- Download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget
exekias said:
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
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Yes, kind of.
AMOLED is... visually TERRIBLE. There are two advantages it has over a conventional LCD; (1) lower power consumption -- black pixels are actually switched off. (2) no backlight means no light bleeding through "black", in other words, black is more black on an AMOLED than an LCD.
The other part of it is that AMOLED actually *CHEATS* on its resolution claims. Something called an "RGBG subpixel matrix". The "RGBG" part is particularly important, since it describes the actual layout of the R, G, and B pixels -- for Red, Green, and Blue. Notice that there are twice as many G's as R's or B's.... Right. Its only 2560x1440 in GREEN. The Red and Blue are each only 2560x720. THAT is why the higher pixel density LOOKS less sharp than the apple LCD. You can thank samsung for that one, AMOLED is their tech.
So for the question about whether or not you can get that same (or better) clarity of of a Nexus 6... sure, if the image is ALL GREEN.
Edit: These are the Android phone's I've owned, in chronological order;
2008: HTC Dream, 480x320 LCD -- reasonable, given the low resolution.
2010: HTC Vision, 800x480 LCD -- at its time, absolutely stunning. Still "pleasant".
2012: Samsung Relay, 800x480 AMOLED -- if looking at something could cause your eyes to bleed, this would have done just that. Absolutely the WORST display imaginable. I had MUCH higher hopes for it, given all the "good" I'd heard about AMOLED and how "crisp" and "high contrast" they were supposed to be. That it could be dramatically WORSE than the 480x320 on the HTC Dream was stunning. I was expecting it to at least be "close" to the HTC Vision.
2015: Nexus 6, 2560x1440 AMOLED -- while visually the best so far, it is only because of the absurdly high number of pixels. So many that it has a significant negative impact on graphic performance. I would gladly sacrifice a little bit of battery and contrast to get the performance of 1920x1080.
turn up your brightness, N6's screen looks terrible at low brightness unless you have a kcal kernel to adjust the colors (stock warm colors look fuzzier imo compared to cool colors). The iphone having a LCD makes it look basically the same at any brightness at least color and sharpness-wise.
iphone is crisp because of its tech..
but i love nexus more..
i dont adore the nexus because of its screen but i love android because its an ANDROID
Honestly, I'm just getting old. I think the Nexus 6 screen is perfectly fine - crisp and clear.
Just requested the return of my Mi 8 due to an AMOLED issue.
Shades of dark gray aren't uniform. This is visible in darker environments (like in the bedroom at night).
This is most visible on Reddit dark mode. I can see it on Spotify if I look hard.
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I'm waiting for the e-commerce store's response. They claim that this has to be validated via their tests.
Also, I'm wondering what my odds are with AMOLED... If I get a replacement, will I get a significantly better display or potentially find another set of issues if I look.
What do you reckon are my odds if I go through with the replacement?
OLED screens in general are more problematic displaying dark shapes of grey compared to IPS panels. This has to do with manufacturing tolerances of individual light-emitting pixels at low current. This, in particular, is the reason why most OLED panels employ PWM (flickering) to control brightness, applying higher current in short pulses compared to applying constant low current. If you search for "LG G Flex 2 screen uniformity", you'll see some pretty extreme example of this.
That said, with each individual OLED panel and depending on your personal tolerances, your luck may vary. My Mi 8 is very acceptable when displaying dark shades of grey (I don't notice the problem even if it is there). If you received my Mi 8, there is a chance you could spot the issue because your personal tolerance of the problem is lower than mine. My wife uses an LG G Flex 2 and never notices the (very real) problem with its display uniformity (I do!)
In other words, most users are happy with their displays, but it does not mean all of them got a perfect one.
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Just requested the return of my Mi 8 due to an AMOLED issue.
Shades of dark gray aren't uniform. This is visible in darker environments (like in the bedroom at night).
This is most visible on Reddit dark mode. I can see it on Spotify if I look hard.
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I'm waiting for the e-commerce store's response. They claim that this has to be validated via their tests.
Also, I'm wondering what my odds are with AMOLED... If I get a replacement, will I get a significantly better display or potentially find another set of issues if I look.
What do you reckon are my odds if I go through with the replacement?
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That's normal. It happens with every AMOLED display. I have a Samsung S8 and it happens in the same way.
It's something common, don't be scared.
Grana_10 said:
That's normal. It happens with every AMOLED display. I have a Samsung S8 and it happens in the same way.
It's something common, don't be scared.
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That's right I have this issue on my note 9 too. My previous note 9 had this and devices in store had this.
Its normal.
anthroplus said:
Just requested the return of my Mi 8 due to an AMOLED issue.
Shades of dark gray aren't uniform. This is visible in darker environments (like in the bedroom at night).
This is most visible on Reddit dark mode. I can see it on Spotify if I look hard.
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I'm waiting for the e-commerce store's response. They claim that this has to be validated via their tests.
Also, I'm wondering what my odds are with AMOLED... If I get a replacement, will I get a significantly better display or potentially find another set of issues if I look.
What do you reckon are my odds if I go through with the replacement?
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"Aren't uniform" meaning you cannot tell the difference in the shades? Grey is a very challenging and controversial color for AMOLED. Use the Display Tester app by Braintrapp from Google Play and try the "Gamma detection" app when you have your device, you'll see it displayed horizontally. Swipe up and down (with the device of course held horizontally, or "landscape" mode) to change the brightness and look at how it displays grey at different brightness levels. Very weird huh?! It's perfectly normal.
I guess you can say it is a "grey area" for AMOLED...
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I would have to say you're in for quite a gamble. Most people aren't keen to spot "defects" on AMOLED displays. I am. Coming from a person who has owned many phones of both main screen technologies, I can tell you that the displays can vary even on identical devices. I've owned Galaxy devices with some having a red hue and others not, same when I had two Nexus 6, one had a slightly red hue and seemingly lower brightness at max, the other was perfect. Sometimes manufacturers have different facilities making the same screen, and differences arise. If you do get a replacement, you just have to hope it's from the better batch.
Now to get a better understanding, what do you mean when you say "aren't uniform?" Could you describe a little what you mean and where/when you notice the issue (e.g. videos, pictures, etc.)
Also, did you attempt to set a static color contrast within the Settings? The display does change tones automatically by default. According to the Display Tester app by Braintrapp from Google Play, it seems that our display does not support Wide Color Gamut. Some of the hues seem to be a tiny bit off according to it on my display, and this is coming from someone who owns a Mi 8 with a "perfect" AMOLED display.
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Every oled screen is uneven, clearly visible on dark gray backround in dark room. Even samsungs don't have perfect screens.
Grana_10 said:
That's normal. It happens with every AMOLED display. I have a Samsung S8 and it happens in the same way.
It's something common, don't be scared.
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I have the same issue with pixel 2 xl
I've owned the nexus 6p, OnePlus 5, 5t, 6 and the mi 8.
Tbh I think the mi8 has the worst AMOLED display of all of them when it comes to dark backgrounds in low light. It has like a "jelly scrolling" effect
My avatar on YouTube is solid black and I use the dark mode of the YouTube app....when I'm scrolling through comments i leave on videos with the screen brightness down low there's a noticable trailing effect.
It's not enough to make me want to return it but it's a problem I didn't have with any of the other devices I listed.
I prefer AMOLED to LCD any day.
xyourxhighnessx said:
I've owned the nexus 6p, OnePlus 5, 5t, 6 and the mi 8.
Tbh I think the mi8 has the worst AMOLED display of all of them when it comes to dark backgrounds in low light. It has like a "jelly scrolling" effect
My avatar on YouTube is solid black and I use the dark mode of the YouTube app....when I'm scrolling through comments i leave on videos with the screen brightness down low there's a noticable trailing effect.
It's not enough to make me want to return it but it's a problem I didn't have with any of the other devices I listed.
I prefer AMOLED to LCD any day.
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Coming from OnePlus 6, what motivated you to move to the Mi 8?
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Coming from OnePlus 6, what motivated you to move to the Mi 8?
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I bought the op6 with PayPal credit. I bought two and with the op6t coming I decided to sell them instead of paying the remaining balance. At first I intended to go with 6t but in the end I thought I'd try something different.
Since the Nexus 6p all of my phones have been stock/near stock. I thought I'd try something else. I like stock better because I feel there's a learning curve to miui if you're used to stock but overall I like the mi 8. I wish I would've waited for the mi mix 3 though. The sliding design is nice.
The full screen gesture navigation is the best button free navigation I've tried. I haven't used the buttons since nearly the beginning of owning it. It'll suck when I decide to use a non-xiaomi device. I didn't like OnePlus or stock gesture navigation
well i gotta say, i was afraid to get an bad Screen, too. Especially after reading threads like this. But i can say my screen is perfectly fine. even in lowest brightness. Yes The grays are not that gray as on the screen as on lcd, but thats the same with all amoled screens, and you only see it when u have the exact same app on an lcd screen beside your phone. For the rest its super fine.
Yeah. After 3+ months of using the phone, I’m learning to just enjoy it naturally without nitpicking details that don’t practically affect my everyday experience.
If we treat the phone like a baby, there’s an endless list of concerns.
But if you really just use it like you would (without analyzing scenarios that don’t come naturally), so many of these issues don’t matter at the end of the day.
I think the green is much more problematic on amoled displays (on low brightness / Oled Tool)
Sigray said:
I think the green is much more problematic on amoled displays (on low brightness / Oled Tool)
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That's exactly what I found.
Now, having said that, we don't use oled tools for practical purposes.
I basically don't notice the issue at all under normal use.
In other words, if I never did nitpick at first, 3 years of normal daily use could pass without me noticing the issue at all.
Has anyone changed from a OLED phone with a higher resolution display and ppi to the Rog 2
I'm using a phone with 1440 x 2560 resolution and 538 ppi density OLED display (ZTE Axon 7).
The Rog 2 has a 1080 x 2340 pixels resolution, 391 ppi density and 120hz
Is there a noticeable difference. Does the 120hz refresh make up for the lower resolution
I am definitely thinking of getting this phone. Amazing speakers and battery. Just curious of how the display compares to flagship phones
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Has anyone changed from a OLED phone with a higher resolution display and ppi to the Rog 2
I'm using a phone with 1440 x 2560 resolution and 538 ppi density OLED display (ZTE Axon 7).
The Rog 2 has a 1080 x 2340 pixels resolution, 391 ppi density and 120hz
Is there a noticeable difference. Does the 120hz refresh make up for the lower resolution
I am definitely thinking of getting this phone. Amazing speakers and battery. Just curious of how the display compares to flagship phones
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A screen this small will not be noticeable.
I came from a Note 9 which has imo one the the best phone displays going and there is definitely a difference. I use a high DPI and if you look for it, you can tell the difference very easily. If your display has a 1080p mode, it'll be similar to that.
Personally though I think the benefits out way the negatives, 120Hz is awesome, running at 1080 does improve battery life, the screen has no issues with any colour shifts and honestly looks really nice but it doesn't get that dim or super bright like the Note and it struggles a bit with dark greys.
Asus Rog Phone 2
Thanks. This is the answer I was looking for. I thought there might be a slight drop in image quality.
As you said it's a question of weighing up the pros and cons. This really does look like an amazing phone. I think it will be worth taking a slight hit on the display for all the other features this phone offers
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A screen this small will not be noticeable.
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This is my thoughts as well. I'm currently on the LG V20, which is 1440p. When watching videos, 720p is the cutoff for me. 1080p and 1440p videos look no better. I may be able to tell with static images, but I'm not too worried about that.
I've been looking on the forums and some people are complaining of a red tint on the screen. Is this a known issue?
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I came from a Note 9 which has imo one the the best phone displays going and there is definitely a difference. I use a high DPI and if you look for it, you can tell the difference very easily. If your display has a 1080p mode, it'll be similar to that.
Personally though I think the benefits out way the negatives, 120Hz is awesome, running at 1080 does improve battery life, the screen has no issues with any colour shifts and honestly looks really nice but it doesn't get that dim or super bright like the Note and it struggles a bit with dark greys.
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Switching a higher resolution phone into a lower resolution is not the same as viewing a lower resolution unless the native resolution can be divided evenly by lower resolution display.
That being said, you would notice a difference if you looked for it. It's still good enough that my eye can't single out an individual pixel.
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I've been looking on the forums and some people are complaining of a red tint on the screen. Is this a known issue?
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It's weird. So I can see the red tint if I'm viewing it in the dark with a low brightness. The only thing tinted red is grey. Whites look white, blues look blue. But with grey, there is a slight reddish tint and only at lowered brightness.
Also it should be mentioned that it's related to the refresh rate. You lower the refresh rate to 60, you don't see it unless your brightness is close to all the way off. At 120, it's noticeable at about 40-45% brightness.
It's a non-issue for me. I don't think it's a big deal. I didn't even notice it till I read about it.
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jasonjay100 said:
I've been looking on the forums and some people are complaining of a red tint on the screen. Is this a known issue?
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Yep, as far as I'm aware all of these rog II displays suffer from it...
In low or dark ambient light the screen seems to have a pinkish or red tint when viewing the panel to the side. I don't remember seeing this on the N20U. Anyone else?
Very common in phones in the past year. Either green or red tint in low light. My 8pro has a green tint at low light levels and there's many reports from many makes and models of phones of this.
So probably normal. Just didn't seem to be a bright or white as the Note 20U.
mhw100 said:
So probably normal. Just didn't seem to be a bright or white as the Note 20U.
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Im not sure it's "normal" more that there's something going on with the latest Samsung panels. Is the N20U 120hz? I think it's something to do with the refresh rates because OLED TVs suffer from "raised blacks" at 120hz. I think high refresh rates mess up gamma levels in OLED.
Yes the Note was 120 but not qhd
Do you have a screen protector installed? it could make this tints worse, also don't forget this issue is only with "cheaper" displays, i don't think Samsung uses that kind of "cheaper" displays in flagships!
I did remove the factory protector and it did seem to make the panel slightly brighter. The pink only shows up in low ambient light with the screen at100% and really only then if viewing it at an angle. It's slight but haven't seen this on the Note 10, Note 20 or s20.
Are you using 120hz? On the note 20 ultra this cause slight colour shifts...
Yes 120 and qhd although not at the same time on the Note.
I don't see pink tint in my s21 ultra.
Exynos version
How does the white balance in a dark room with the screen cranked up seem? Warm or cool? It's not as bright as the Note so maybe that's what I'm picking up on.
mhw100 said:
Yes 120 and qhd although not at the same time on the Note.
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This is the reason... Sadly every device with 120hz has either red or green tint issue :/
Well that is unfortunate then.
Yes to pink tint! Exynos
no pink for me USA model snapdragon
Same Pink tint problem. Exynos. Don’t need 100% brightness. Just at white screen and slightly tilt it. And pink tint appear.
Same as 13:20s in this video
So it sounds like it might be normal for these panels then and the 120 hz as mentioned above
I just turned the white balance one notch to cool and it seems to eliminate the pink and then into the advanced and then the red down a bit
mhw100 said:
I just turned the white balance one notch to cool and it seems to eliminate the pink and then into the advanced and then the red down a bit
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some people don't see it. seem strange. may be some devices have that problem. not all.
my oppo find x2 pro 2k 120hz don't have that pink. very annoying. sr for my bad english.
my oppo find x2 pro 2k 120hz don't have that pink. very annoying.