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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Tab Stylus, your thoughts?

hello my fellow tab geeks.
a few weeks back, i purchased the official samsung galaxy capacitive stylus but really am not very impressed with it and just wanted to see if others feel the same way.
i've tried several stylus before for my prev iPad and none of them moved very smoothly across the surface due to the requirements of a capacitive screen, etc.
anywho, from using it for a few days; it seemed to stick more to the screen than move smoothly and in turn made any fast note taking impossible. i could never duplicate the accuracy of using a pen on paper.
are all capacitive stylus basically plagued with this problem?
now i remember the advantages of resistive screens. if only someone would finally make both on their tablets.. hmmm...
any feedback would be great! thanks!

I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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sparkyxda said:
I think it's one of the downsides of capacitive screens. I bought a boxwave stylus and it's got issues even though it had the best reviews. You need a lot of surface area contact to make a capacitive screen work.
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thanks for your input kind of what i thought.

seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.

I bought the BoxWave stylus too and quite like it. It does require some pressure to get enough contact to work correctly but as the end is so soft it's not a strain. Once I got used to it I prefer the stylus over using my finger for most tasks and it has the added advantage that the screen remains clean. Obviously you need to revert for fingers for pinch-zoom and any other multitouch gesture though.

ayman07 said:
seamonkey420 what stylus are you talking about? please give me a link.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S100CBEGSTA
Galaxy Tab™ Conductive StylusET-S100CBEG

seamonkey420 said:
...any feedback would be great! thanks!
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I bought the same stylus with the intent of using it for a drawing app I have on the Tab. I, too, was disappointed. It takes quite a bit of pressure to get a solid line, otherwise it would skip here and there along the line. It worked ok for just moving through screens or typing, but for doing any kind of useful sketching or drawing it was pretty much useless.

Maplins do one that has a soft tip - but it's no substitute for a finger....

bought these over at ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3pcs-Stylus-Tou...196333?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf4a8796d
not bad and i do need to put some pressure on it but since they have a soft point im not concerned

Losing your capacity
I also noticed that if you hold the stylus anywhere but in contact with the metal band, it doesn't track at all. Sometimes you want to hold it further back.
T-Mo
Stock

Targus stylus
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?

jimmyjack72 said:
I got the targus stylus and it works on the iPad and galaxy s but struggles with the galaxy tab. I'm a bit disappointed. Must be a different kind of capacitive screen. Writing with it on the iPad is like writing on paper. Very smooth and quick to get used to.
Anyone had any better luck with styli on the g tab?
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Only stylus that works is stock one only works well but digs a hole in your pocker

Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.

Dagi stylus
I ordered a Dagi stylus after seeing a demo on a Galaxy Tab that made it look smooth. There's a few different models, so I'm hoping they have catered to the slightly different capacitive screen on the Galaxy to that of other devices.
If it was a faked video I have a stylus for my iPad.

trust me .. your fingers are working better . stylus are crap just to sell and get some profit from it thats all ..
and if you wanna a fast smoothy screen flash new rom

50-3 said:
Got any old HDD bags laying around?
If you wrap a cut off of it around the end of a pen you have a cheap stylus and it works brilliantly on my legend
It's also a very smooth plastic so I haven't had it bog down on me at all.
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Yay for raising dead threads!
Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious

Could you elaborate more on "HDD Bags" I'm curious
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He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip

PBL1 said:
He means antistatic plastic bags used to protect sensitive electronics,
usually silver or silvery like appearance
I just tried with the top of a microscrewdrive, it works surprisingly well
thanks 50-3 for the tip
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OH! I might have a few of those kicking about, thanks!

The foam tipped ones I tried in the shops were all rubbish. Not even worth a £.

GT \m/ I loves it

Any fine tip stylus'?

I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?

C2Q said:
I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?
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Bumping for interest. I've had bad luck with rounded ones on my old TF101. I've love something with a fine point.

Well I found this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Black-Plasti...ccessories&hash=item35be88a28b#ht_1519wt_1392
Not sure how well it will work though. I don't really need 3 but its only 3 dollars so...

C2Q said:
I visited my local dollar store earlier and found a cheap stylus for 2 dollars. It works well but the only thing I don't like is the rounded tip. I'm looking for more of a shape of a pen with a pointy tip. Preferably really cheap for a dollar or so from ebay or any online retailer that ships to Canada. Any ideas?
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Read this: http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review

Hmm, how come there is a lack of fine point stylus'? Is it something to do with the screen and only rounded edges working or something?

C2Q said:
Hmm, how come there is a lack of fine point stylus'? Is it something to do with the screen and only rounded edges working or something?
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It's not a real graphics tablet (the kind photoshop users have). Capacitive screens just aren't that accurate. You have the same issue w/ the ipad screen.
If you want something w/ the accuracy of the Galaxy Note, get the Note. It uses Wacom technology which actually is accurate...

how about jot? http://adonit.net/product/jot/ are you talking about this one?

Read my link. There is a limited resolution with capacitive devices...
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nerdsisme said:
how about jot? http://adonit.net/product/jot/ are you talking about this one?
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Saw that, but meh the fragile disc and the price is a turn off. I guess I'll just stick with my cheapo stylus for the time being. It does my sort of writing well enough anyway.

http://handstylus.com/
Coming soon, a "finer" point stylus for cap. touch screens.

The problem is the screen tech. Because of the way they work, it requires a larger point of contact. They aren't real precise for writing or drawing. This is all cap screens including iDevices.
The Note and Flyer uses a combination of screen techs and pen tech. The pen has sensors that detects pressures and communicates to the device (I guess). That or there is there an additional screen layer that has pressure sensors.
Old school resistive screens are much more accurate.
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For any size tip to work on a capacitive touch-screen it has to be compressed until the tip forms a circle on the screen's surface that measures approximately 4mm in diameter," designer Steve King

I have the Adjonit Pro and love it. Works great even with the screen protector and am getting better at Draw Something with it LOL

I've been on the search for a fine tipped stylus & haven't found anything that works consistently. I just use the cheap-o stylus from Amazon.
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Compusmurf said:
http://handstylus.com/
Coming soon, a "finer" point stylus for cap. touch screens.
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Niccceeee

Revue of the Plai Estylo Stylus
Report on the Plai Estylo stylus -
If you're not familiar with it, see this: http://plai.tv/blog/estylo-11
and this video of how precisely the tip can be used: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhKb32LWL28
I got the Estylo in this morning's mail. I like it a lot. Tested it with Autosketch Sketchbook Pro, Fresco Pro, and Lecture Notes. It produces slightly cleaner (slightly more legible) handwriting strokes than the Kuel H12 stylus. I also notice that it both glides more smoothly, but with a very firm feel (the tip material has almost no give to it in comparison with a rubber or silicone tip.) To be fair, you still can't use a tiny, tiny point to draw with - you have to angle the tip to get more of it in contact with the surface. BUT, you can easily see where you are drawing/writing.
Now if there was a clip on it, so I could keep in in my pocket without fear of losing it, it would be ideal. BTW, it's extremely light weight (4 grams.)

So, I am a long time Galaxy Note user. Someone who has become dependent on the S Pen. I have also become dependent on a removable battery...
I use my S Pen all day practically every day for work and I work in a low signal area. The Galaxy Note was definitely the phone for me until Samsung decided to pull the plug on removable batteries.
I have been very interested in LG's new G5 (hey, it has a removable battery!) but I am having a lot of trouble finding a fine point stylus, similar to the S Pen, that will work with the G5's capacitive screen.
Looking through XDA forums I have come across not only this thread but another...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/how-to-make-fine-stylus-t2933326
I have not yet tried this but have high hopes.

There is no SPen replacement. I have a Note 5. The Note Line has a special pen digitizer layer that allows the use of a fine stylus.
There are several fine point regular pens, but none really compare.
I've never used one of these but it's probably your best bet.
http://www.adonit.net/jot/pro/
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What stylus to buy?

I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.

mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review
Personally, I got Andonit Jot Pro because I wanted to be able to write as thin as possible (when needed). Especially, at one point owning Note 10.1, I missed the S-pen experience. So I got Andonit Jot Pro based on the review for my transformer infinity, which i also tried to use on my wife's ipad 2.
Though I can tell you one thing. Capative screen stylus is nothing but a finger replacement. So accuracy is nowhere that of inductive technology e.g. Galaxy Note 10.1, Wacom Pen devices. Furthermore, there is no palm rejection i.e. as soon as your palm touches screen it recognizes the palm.
So to be honest, even cheap stylus would still do the job. if I could return my andonit stylus, I would have and just kept using my 3 for $5 stylus over $20+ Andoit Jot pro.

So, as far as the pressure sensitivity goes, the adonit joint pro does work? It's the lack of palm rejection that's bothersome?
EDIT: My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.

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My bad, it's a capacitive stylus. There are pressure-sensitive styluses for Android, but I don't think they are supported in apps which makes them pretty useless.
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You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.

Careful with the Jot Pro. I own one, and it scratched the living daylights out of my Nexus 7 and Xoom. While it's by far the most precise (since it let's you look at the precise location where you will write), it's not worth it to me if it means scratching the screen. I also refuse to use a screen protector because of how they make my fingers feel when swiping across the screen.
As a decent replacement, I now use the Boxwave Evertouch, which I bought on Amazon for about $10. It's nowhere near as precise as the Jot Pro, but it won't scratch my precious N10. I still use the Jot Pro on my Xoom and N7 since they're already scratched.

Cosmonaut
HoushaSen said:
You are absolutely right. I believe at least on iPad people tried couple different things such as using bluetooth signal, or even using ultrasound to make pressure sensitivity. As you have figured those pen are usually very expensive. Last I recall are almost close to $100. Even the pressure sensitivity works (which i am still skeptical) but even then two major issues:
1. application support - just as you said. Each app has to support it individually and not many app does that. Simply because most android device don't have the capability. So why would devs implement such.
2. Lack of accuracy/palm rejection - Without these simply your writing experience won't be a real i.e. yes you can right here and there for fun, but for practical use such as taking note, you will quickly learn that actually doing such on real paper would be faster.
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I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?

gacostac said:
I used a Cosmonaut stylus for a year on an IPad 2 with the Notheshelf App. It was a great stylus and the app gave you what they called "wrist protection". Basically horizontal and perpendicular lines where you could set your palm without leaving marks, so you could write just with the stylus. (they don't have this app for android... i asked them)
Now that I am moving to a Nexus 10 (my first android device) I am looking for an App with this characteristics. Can anyone recommend one?
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I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"

I'II have to monitor my screen for scratches from the Jot stylus. I found I was having to grip the stylus too hard because of the aluminum body of the stylus. Also, any dirt or oils on the screen greatly reduce the sensitively of the Jot stylus, even trapping dirt between the hard plastic stylus tip and screen. Therefore, those of you using the Jot may wish to consider keeping your screen really clean. A second idea that has really helped is getting a length of heat-shrink tubing from an electronics store and shrinking it around the barrel of the stylus. This has given me a much more comfortable grip.
However, I will have to keep an eye out for scratches. So far, so good.
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mihail.mitsov said:
I am waiting for my device but I want to buy samo accessories for it. This is my first capacitive tablet and I want to buy a good stylus for it. My wife will use it for drawing - so it will be nice if it is suitable for this too.
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I think Adonit jot very good. I use with Google Nexus 7, very good when writing and painting. Can you search in google, have so much shop sale it
Hope you have product like early

Maxey said:
I think lectures notes has a "palm safe zone"
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Correct, & Papyrus Beta also has palm recognition. (Pressure sure there's one more app too, maybe Antipaper.)
As for the stylus, I currently have a cheap Griffin stylus and a Wacom Bamboo stylus. Between the two, Wacom's Bamboo stylus seems to be very popular and IMO it is much more accurate than the cheapo options.
I use the Bamboo pretty much everyday to take notes in class, it's a great option if your looking for an alternative to the Adonit stylus.

I'm getting the gosmart , it has the thinnest most Accurate tip and its got a spring on the front that makes it pressure sensatibe in a way
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Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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KestrelX said:
Saw this on appy geek this morning:
http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-acc...new-stylus-pens-android-and-windows-8-tablets
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Only works with Galaxy Note.
http://hexus.net/ce/items/gadgets/4...now-using-mobile-devices-will-feel-different/

pogo connect
I have been doing some research on stylus out there and the Pogo Connect seams to be one of the best things out there. Its supposed to work through Bluetooth
anyone knows if it will work with our Nexus 10 and if there are Android apps that will support it? that would be great!

I'm beginning to see a few scratches on my screen from the Jot Pro. It looks like a single event as if a small grain of sand got caught between the stylus and screen. I may try some sort of screen protector.
Has anyone reported scratches from other styli?
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I send an email to the guys that manufacture the Pogo Connect, this is their answer, sorry:
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Thanks for writing in. Pogo Connect is not compatible with Android tablets. We'd love to see Pogo Connect be as universal as possible, including support for Android systems. We've talked through some compatibility ideas, but we're just not sure yet if we'll be able to make it happen.
Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.
Best Regards,
Ashley Skinner
Ten One Design

so i am thinking of getting the jotpro stylus for my nexus 10 but after reading this thread i am a bit concerned with the scratched issue some users talked about. does it come from the stylus or because of sand or something trapped between the screen and the plastic plate? i want to use the stylus indoors for notes on my university.

Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.

When I say sand, I'm not referring to beach or outdoor sand. I'm referring to tiny abrasive particles, normally too small to notice. Perhaps I should have said dirt, contaminants, or some other term. The hard plastic tip of the Jot pro requires more downwards force than other styli. I don't believe the tip itself does the scratching, but hard tiny debris pressed into the glass by the Jot pro.
Has any one tried the Jot pro with a screen protector?
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Harfainx said:
Hand stylus is amazing. 4mm tip gives great accuracy. Also you can get 6 replacement tips for $10.
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Link?
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Awesome stylus!

I picked one of these up locally the other day and so far, I'm very impressed. It's extremely precise and I have yet to find another like it.
http://www.amazon.com/Adonit-Stylus...F8&qid=1358721654&sr=1-12&keywords=adonit+jot
I opted for this one, because I also wanted a pen. There are cheaper options if you don't care about the pen. I would caution that if you get one, be careful with it and use the included protective cap. I think jamming it into a pocket would probably break the tip and replacements are stupid expensive ($6.00 for two). I can confirm that it works great on the Nexus 10 and feels extremely solid (though the tip feels a bit fragile). I use mine in conjunction with a skinomi protective screen cover.
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I always wondered how those type of Stylus are to use.. I could never justify the money they cost for the unknown factor of if I'll even like it.
I've always used the cheap rubber tip Stylus because A. They're cheap and B. I can pick it up and tap around and get to work instantly as if it was my finger. The one you listed seems like you'd have to grip it right, and make sure it's on the screen correctly and be sort of more "careful" with it. I don't write too often and not artistic at all. So drawing is out of the question too.

You actually grip it like a normal pen. The disc attached to the tip sits on there with a sort of ball /socket joint so it adjusts accordingly. I have never had much luck with rubber /microknit tips, because they have never been very precise in my experience. It is pricier than I'd like, but I take good care of my things so I don't worry too much about the fragile mechanism, but it is worth noting that it is a likely failure point.
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I received this as a gift: http://m.zagg.com/product/view/ZSTYLUS
And never really thought I'd use it but then I picked up that slim roo case for a penny off amazon with the little loop for a stylus and turns out I love it. Very accurate and just seems easier than using my finger. On the nexus7 I don't prefer it for some reason but with this larger screen real estate I do.

i also own a adonit stylus and its awesome. it's really accurate and the quality is high end. They are also working on an Android SDK for developers to implement more features like pressure sensitivity.

leo_s_smith said:
i also own a adonit stylus and its awesome. it's really accurate and the quality is high end. They are also working on an Android SDK for developers to implement more features like pressure sensitivity.
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Pressure sensitivity will require purchasing a specialized bluetooth stylus with those sensors and runs about $100.
Hex3 makes one that supposedly requires no batteries and has this capability as well.

Stylus advise for OP3:

Guys, has anyone used a 3rd party stylus on an android phone. Need to buy one for my OP3. Primary use is to mark edits on photos, write comments and hopefully to make simple designs.
I'd like it to be under $10. Or is that too low?

OP3 doesn't have hardware stylus support, so you'll have to use something that "simulates" finger - meaning big tip. Either a rubber ball point or a plastic plate. Rubber ones are cheaper (you gen get those for as low as 1$), but they're really not any better than your finger. Styluses with plastic tip are slightly better because the tip is translucent so you see exactly where you're pointing at. But they're also more expensive. I got myself a DAGI Stylus (forgot model name) a few years ago. Works with any and all touchscreens, costs about 20$ (actually there were 2 styluses in the box - normal pen sized and a tiny narrow one + some spare tips).
Keep in mind that it still won't be much more accurate than a finger, you simply need special hardware for that (like Galaxy Note series and some tablets have).
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Have seen some people use this on an apple for sketching. Will be awesome even if it is that accurate