DXO Mark - Redmi K20 Pro / Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro Questions & Answe

Have not bought the phone yet but the DXO mark for it looks fairly decent given some of the reviews I've seen.
Overall score of 102 which is same as Pixel 3.
Fair result ?
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-camera-review/

DXOMark scores won't matter because there's GCAM.
MIUI stock camera app's software processing is pure garbage.

RebornCheiko said:
DXOMark scores won't matter because there's GCAM.
MIUI stock camera app's software processing is pure garbage.
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Which one GCam version port do You recommend for best quality and stability for mi9t pro?

Dxomark is a joke of a site. I still can't understand how people are following that ****, it has completely ridiculous and fake scores. The pixel 3 is much, MUCH better then any xiaomi phone when it comes to photography. Miui has garbage photo processing.

seko85 said:
Which one GCam version port do You recommend for best quality and stability for mi9t pro?
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Request to port nubia camera app

Please somebody port nubia camera app for our one plus 3t.
Bro, honestly I don't think anyone will port it. It might have some great feature but it will be a real pain. Porting the official oneplus camera to other ROMs is still not 100% complete, so I don't see anyone(or interested) porting it.
I am myself studying kernel and ROM development(actually starting) to build a ROM to my liking.
Reeb_Lam said:
Bro, honestly I don't think anyone will port it. It might have some great feature but it will be a real pain. Porting the official oneplus camera to other ROMs is still not 100% complete, so I don't see anyone(or interested) porting it.
I am myself studying kernel and ROM development(actually starting) to build a ROM to my liking.
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Thanks for replying...
I didn't knew that it requires so much of energy.. But the problem is camera quality of oneplus 3t is not up to the mark according to me.
I find too much of noise in pics except in bright daytime photos.
Do you also agree with this?
munmun said:
I find too much of noise in pics except in bright daytime photos.
Do you also agree with this?
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i do
munmun said:
Thanks for replying...
I didn't knew that it requires so much of energy.. But the problem is camera quality of oneplus 3t is not up to the mark according to me.
I find too much of noise in pics except in bright daytime photos.
Do you also agree with this?
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Better to request port whole of Nubia rom.
It had a better image output that way in yureka.
But for that will have to wait for a snap 821 device with Nubia ui
Navi44 said:
Better to request port whole of Nubia rom.
It had a better image output that way in yureka.
But for that will have to wait for a snap 821 device with Nubia ui
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Yes you are right..lets hope 4 the best..
Learn to use manual mode to compensate for poor low light performance.
Also, you could save photos in RAW format and use POST processing to improve low light photos.
As someone else mentioned in another thread, the camera may not be great, but when you offer such a high-end device for half the price of other flagships something has to be sacrificed to justify that cost.
Personally, it's a comprise that I can live with.
munmun said:
Thanks for replying...
I didn't knew that it requires so much of energy.. But the problem is camera quality of oneplus 3t is not up to the mark according to me.
I find too much of noise in pics except in bright daytime photos.
Do you also agree with this?
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Actually its not the app which is difficult to port instead its features. For example, as far I know no one is able to port HDR+ from google pixel. Same goes with Nubia app. It may be ported but some features might not work due to incompatibility.
As for the quality of photos, it sure is bad in low light but in my opinion it is best in this price segment. Also I don't think camera app or as a matter of fact any post processing will make any huge improvement.
HampTheToker said:
Learn to use manual mode to compensate for poor low light performance.
Also, you could save photos in RAW format and use POST processing to improve low light photos.
As someone else mentioned in another thread, the camera may not be great, but when you offer such a high-end device for half the price of other flagships something has to be sacrificed to justify that cost.
Personally, it's a comprise that I can live with.
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I agree with your comprise point but as you said its a personal choice and vary with every individual and for me its camera and screen quality.
After using custom kernel I am now happy with the saturated colors which earlier were too washed out.
But camera still sucks but not too much ..its just that imx 298 sensor with ois can do much better which oneplus is not able to extract from it.
Reeb_Lam said:
Actually its not the app which is difficult to port instead its features. For example, as far I know no one is able to port HDR+ from google pixel. Same goes with Nubia app. It may be ported but some features might not work due to incompatibility.
As for the quality of photos, it sure is bad in low light but in my opinion it is best in this price segment. Also I don't think camera app or as a matter of fact any post processing will make any huge improvement.
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I have used nubia z9 mini ..nubia z11 mini and both were amazing related to camera quality even with imx 234 and imx 298 without ois.
And our onpeplus 3t has got ois as well..still not able to produce what I expected from it.
I was too confused between nubia z11 and oneplus 3t before buying this phone but in end I made my mind for oneplus.
And now I miss nubia image processing..
Let's wait and hope.
Try this initial version of Nubia camera and it still does a pretty job.
Use its manual and fun mode..u will njoy.
https://www.apk4fun.com/apk/3407/

Camera quality between K20 Pro and OP 7 Pro

I'm planning to buy a new phone with better custom ROM support, but confused between these two - K20 Pro and OnePlus 7 Pro. The price of both phones are at different extends.
So if the K20 Pro has better or comparable quality in the camera section against OP 7 Pro I would definitely go for K20 Pro and can save money for others. Please share your thoughts on this.
OP 7 pro has better camera, but K20 pro camera isn't not bad at all for day to day normal shots taking, if you're a camera guy then it's OP > K20
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The only real reason to get OP 7 Pro over K20 is for OIS. Makes a real difference during low light and while shooting video.
Wide-angle camera is also a little better and has manual focus. During day time, you won't get much difference cause both have same main sensor. GCam fixes most of the color inconsistencies for both phones.
If you plan on shooting at night time, I highly suggest you go for OnePlus. Even the 7T has OIS so that's a good middle ground [and has 2x zoom instead of 3x].
You shouldn't believe anything you read in the tech press about OnePlus phones--especially what you read on XDA.
OnePlus fired all of the programmers who created Oxygen after OnePlus Marshmallow and moved all coding to the Hydrogen team in China to save money.
Hydrogen was supposedly the Chinese ROM for OnePlus phones--but since OnePlus doesn't actually sell phones in China they were programming a ROM nobody used.
Since Oxygen Nougat coding on OnePlus phones has been completely inept--a fact that is widely known among developers and software engineers but not discussed on XDA.
The last OnePlus phone developers actually used was the OP3T--which was the last OnePlus phone released before the Oxygen programmers were fired.
All development for OnePlus phones is artificially sustained by OnePlus who gives free phones to developers since they would never spend their own money on OnePlus devices.
Since developers don't actually use OnePlus phones as their daily driver ROMs and kernels for OnePlus phones are compiled. These ROMs always have bugs--any build of any custom ROM for a OnePlus phone always has bugs even if it's supposedly stable.
Since OnePlus ROMs are compiled by developers who don't use the phones daily themselves multiple ROMs will often have the exact same bugs at the same time. Someone will post code to fix the bug on GitHub and if the code is approved all of the devs for the various ROMs will incorporate the same code into their own ROMs.
Usually developers of OnePlus custom ROMs don't know there are bugs in their "stable" ROMs until users report them and these bugs are sometimes serious enough to affect the basic functionality of the phone.
I personally used "stable" OnePlus custom ROMs that wouldn't boot up beyond the splash screen, where the ability to make or receive calls was broken, where Bluetooth, WiFi or GPS was broken, where opening the settings or trying to make a call would completely crash the UI--you get the idea--and this was all on ROMs that were labeled as stable.
Because the firmware on OnePlus phones is ineptly coded it's impossible to take decent pictures without using the ported Google Camera App--a $200 phone from Samsung or Xiaomi takes better pictures than a $700 OnePlus phone using the native OnePlus Camera app.
OnePlus phones are overpriced and ineptly coded--phones from Xiaomi and Honor are a much better value.
Don't read too much into the above post.
As far as hardware is concerned, there is not much difference between the 2, with the exception of OIS being added to the OP phone. Both have the same Sony sensor as the main module, but OP have slightly better secondary modules.
Software wise Xiaomi seem to be ahead of OP, in terms of computational photography. As I see it, Google and Huawei are way ahead, with Samsung third and probably Xiaomi 4th when it comes to computational photography.
So OP edge the camera hardware, but Xiaomi edge the camera software.
I also in confusion about these two phones.
Finally Op cancelled only for Headphone jack.
Better check both phones in gsmarena camera tool and check yourself
josephnero said:
Better check both phones in gsmarena camera tool and check yourself
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Already checked, viewed videos and read many articles. But I want to hear from real people besides reviews, that's why I'm asking.
- are the images great with the photos taken with GCam?
- does the EIS work with all three cameras? or with any camera?
- if the K20 Pro is compared to OnePlus 6T in camera how do you rate them?
niyonsv said:
Already checked, viewed videos and read many articles. But I want to hear from real people besides reviews, that's why I'm asking.
- are the images great with the photos taken with GCam?
- does the EIS work with all three cameras? or with any camera?
- if the K20 Pro is compared to OnePlus 6T in camera how do you rate them?
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- GCam makes colors match up closely. Night mode is minorly better on the OP, but for a casual user it's not incredibly noticeable. Astrophotography is just as good as on any other phone. Main cameras are the same on both phones (48MP Sony), while wide angle is minorly better on the OP (imo, not enough of a quality difference to justify price difference)
- EIS works with main camera on both phones in GCam, OP has OIS on main camera as well. Neither phone can take wide angle video in gcam. OP can't take wide angle video in stock, K20 Pro can.
- K20 Pro is very significantly better than 6T. It matches with the OP 7 Pro much better.
AvgZing said:
- GCam makes colors match up closely. Night mode is minorly better on the OP, but for a casual user it's not incredibly noticeable. Astrophotography is just as good as on any other phone. Main cameras are the same on both phones (48MP Sony), while wide angle is minorly better on the OP (imo, not enough of a quality difference to justify price difference)
- EIS works with main camera on both phones in GCam, OP has OIS on main camera as well. Neither phone can take wide angle video in gcam. OP can't take wide angle video in stock, K20 Pro can.
- K20 Pro is very significantly better than 6T. It matches with the OP 7 Pro much better.
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Thank you so much for the details mate. But unfortunately I'll be buying a pre-owned OnePlus 7T tomorrow. A deal is almost confirmed. I found a couple of things of 7T better for me than K20 Pro. The motorized pop-up camera is one I don't like in K20 Pro, and that's why I'm not even picking 7 Pro, which I can get in the same range. Also I love the 90Hzv display.
These things are too personal and I won't say that K20 Pro is not a good one. It's a great device and I should have brought earlier once but I didn't have money that time.
Anyways thanks again for the detailed information.
EDIT: Just dropped the deal because of unreliability.
I just use GCam and it's miles better than the stock op7

General Custom Rom poll! Please vote!!!!

The more votes the better.
I'm making a simple poll to see if there are of people interested in having a Custom Rom like Lineage OS, Pixel Experience, Havoc, Arrow, Evolution, and others.
I'm don't make ROMs but I'm posting this to see if people would be interested in having one in order for other people invest their time in making some Roms for these devices.
You don't need to comment, just a simple vote would be appreciated.
Base on my experience with Xiaomi Mi Note 10, and its 108MP camera + custom ROM:
- image quality never was as good as stock firmware, you will be using other camera app, but no matter what settings you will set up, there was no way to get image quality as good as on stock MIUI ROM. It has less noise on stock ROM, better low light photos on stock ROM, manual mode etc.
Maybe this will change in the future, but I got MI 11 Ultra because of its new top image sensor to shot nice pictures specially in low light condition.
And for person who got this phone specially to takes amazing photos, moving to custom ROM will be resulting in degrading picture quality.
I love custom ROMs, it's have less bloatware, better optimization, but biggest dealbreaker for me is image quality :/
Of course, if you love custom ROMs and don't care about image quality, go ahead.
If stable custom ROM will be build in 1 year from now, do you think you still will have MI11 Ultra ?
Personally speaking yes, I don't change phone every year, actually my previous phone was a One plus 3 updated year after year with custom ROMs up to Android 10. Finally after 5 years I purchased this Mi 11 Ultra which I plan to keep at least for 4/5 years depending on how long it will last of course and custom support
veimus said:
Base on my experience with Xiaomi Mi Note 10, and its 108MP camera + custom ROM:
- image quality never was as good as stock firmware, you will be using other camera app, but no matter what settings you will set up, there was no way to get image quality as good as on stock MIUI ROM. It has less noise on stock ROM, better low light photos on stock ROM, manual mode etc.
Maybe this will change in the future, but I got MI 11 Ultra because of its new top image sensor to shot nice pictures specially in low light condition.
And for person who got this phone specially to takes amazing photos, moving to custom ROM will be resulting in degrading picture quality.
I love custom ROMs, it's have less bloatware, better optimization, but biggest dealbreaker for me is image quality :/
Of course, if you love custom ROMs and don't care about image quality, go ahead.
If stable custom ROM will be build in 1 year from now, do you think you still will have MI11 Ultra ?
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There is always the option to use Gcam as an alternative. And i know some modders are working hard on it like Wichaya and Greatness.
I am actually interested in MIUImix ROM, I read that is available already on Mi 11, hopefully it will soon for Mi 11 Ultra as well
xNAPx said:
I am actually interested in MIUImix ROM, I read that is available already on Mi 11, hopefully it will soon for Mi 11 Ultra as well
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Thanks for telling this. By searching for MIUImix i found this site which shows other MIUI ports that i did not know about. https://miuiports.edunil.com/
veimus said:
Base on my experience with Xiaomi Mi Note 10, and its 108MP camera + custom ROM:
- image quality never was as good as stock firmware, you will be using other camera app, but no matter what settings you will set up, there was no way to get image quality as good as on stock MIUI ROM. It has less noise on stock ROM, better low light photos on stock ROM, manual mode etc.
Maybe this will change in the future, but I got MI 11 Ultra because of its new top image sensor to shot nice pictures specially in low light condition.
And for person who got this phone specially to takes amazing photos, moving to custom ROM will be resulting in degrading picture quality.
I love custom ROMs, it's have less bloatware, better optimization, but biggest dealbreaker for me is image quality :/
Of course, if you love custom ROMs and don't care about image quality, go ahead.
If stable custom ROM will be build in 1 year from now, do you think you still will have MI11 Ultra ?
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These are really good reasons to keep MIUI. I'm not exactly an expert, but weren't there exports of MIUI-Cam for custom roms before? If yes, you could have best of both worlds, right?
xNAPx said:
I am actually interested in MIUImix ROM, I read that is available already on Mi 11, hopefully it will soon for Mi 11 Ultra as well
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Lol... Im using it since May on my 11 Ultra.
SanHelios said:
These are really good reasons to keep MIUI. I'm not exactly an expert, but weren't there exports of MIUI-Cam for custom roms before? If yes, you could have best of both worlds, right?
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I think you mean Anxcam.
Kollachi said:
Lol... Im using it since May on my 11 Ultra.
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Could you share some feedback? I made some research and looks like is already available for the Mi ultra but I can't see any guide and also I can't see the stable version, only weekly
xNAPx said:
Could you share some feedback? I made some research and looks like is already available for the Mi ultra but I can't see any guide and also I can't see the stable version, only weekly
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Its almost the same as xiaomi.eu rom but its prerooted. Even instructions to flash are the same.
How is in terms of performance? Comparable to stock? Xiaomi EU is very bad in terms of performance
xNAPx said:
How is in terms of performance? Comparable to stock? Xiaomi EU is very bad in terms of performance
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Eu isn't bad int terms of performance lol
Kollachi said:
Eu isn't bad int terms of performance lol
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Is bad
Kollachi said:
Eu isn't bad int terms of performance lol
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Did you ever compare it to stock experience? Apps loading much slower, on a device of this calibre is unacceptable
xNAPx said:
Did you ever compare it to stock experience? Apps loading much slower, on a device of this calibre is unacceptable
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I guess he never did that lmao
xwonic said:
There is always the option to use Gcam as an alternative. And i know some modders are working hard on it like Wichaya and Greatness.
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I was using Cgam in custom ROM, but finds settings for its camera sensors was not always as you expect or hard to find working one. Or app was crashing when switching lenses etc. So it was not reliable at the time of testing.
avetny said:
I guess he never did that lmao
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Mhmm... You dumb af.
xNAPx said:
Did you ever compare it to stock experience? Apps loading much slower, on a device of this calibre is unacceptable
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Chinese firmware was more smooth and felt better, but xiami.eu is also underclocked so no wonder about that. But that doesn't mean it's bad lol.
I don't think given the frequencies for a Snapdragon 888 it makes too much of a difference in terms of apps opening (WhatsApp? Seriously?).Also if it is underclocked it must be underlined by developers as a feature actually, because it is not nice to have an underclocked cpu without knowing (neither I want it nor I can take "better battery optimized" as a feature,as it is achieved with a trick). So in the end it is bad indeed,of course is my opinion

OPPO Find X5 Series - What is your first impression?

OPPO posted the first preview images of the Find X5 series on their socials. What is your first impression?
My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
MsCharice said:
MariSilicon X is OPPO's self-developed imaging NPU + there's a cooperation with Hasselblad.. core feature will be photography I guess, but Hasselblad has its background in lenses. They showed this moving lenses at the INNO day, that's why I think photography will be the main thing, not videography.
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The only con is the loss of the Micro lens from the X3 Pro, which was, in my opinion, one of its coolest features. I'm also very curious about the Mediated 9000 performances and definitely the MariSiliconX processing.
Concerning the design, nothing very exciting so far, but the white version is the one that's catching my eyes.
I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
Deejay Guanz said:
My first impressions were, the new camera design and the collaboration with one of the biggest brands, hassleblad, then the ceramic back glass, it's incredible
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Same for me, the partnership is what first blew my mind. I can't find comparison photos yet though.
Ceramic back in white is *chef's kiss*
thank you for sharing this information.
Jaxom84 said:
I'm really waiting to see how its competing against the OnePlus 9 Pro, that has quite great camera lenses and picture processing.
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Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
BlueMeany68 said:
Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
BlueMeany68 said:
Surely it's main "competitor" will be the OnePlus 10 Pro?
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Depending on the specs you base the "competition" on. I think the only thing they have that is similar is their OS - both based on Android 12. Visually, Find X5 Pro is better, though it is subjective.
What were you comparing the devices on?
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I wouldn't say that you can compete against yourself, but yes, their technical sheets are so alike that the only major differences are the design itself and the OS.
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Don't forget the MariSilicon X NPU.
Unimpressed, to be honest. Bought the Find X5 and the display and camera are both less vibrant than my Fund X2 Neo. It also has terrible viewing angles. The screen has a greenish hue when angled slightoy. Edge lighting doesn’t work. As for the HDR on video playback, it’s barely noticeable. Really disappointed with it, to get honest.

Question should I buy the phone? How is the performance and camera quality? any heating problem?

should I buy the phone?
How is the performance and camera quality?
any heating problem?
For me it's the best. Go for it!
I can say that you buy it calmly, although if you want better photos you will need to replace the Stock Camera with the GCam. In Gaming it behaves quite well, I can even Interpolate Videos and at the same time make it Rescale using MPV.
It's a good phone, but if you have the money go straight for the Pro version, you won't be disappointed.
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
null0seven said:
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
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About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
However, the OnePlus sensors are quality. In that sense, it is worth paying more money for a better camera.
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About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
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Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
null0seven said:
Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
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It is not necessary to do any of those things that make you lose the guarantee. I use LMC version 8.2
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
null0seven said:
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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LMC RELEASE
t.me
This is the LMC 8.4_R11. I can't upload the file here because it is too heavy.

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