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So I've been rooted on my ATT GN3 for awhile now and I have a custom ROM(UrDroid stock 4.3) installed using Safestrap.
For the last several weeks, periodically when I'm on wifi, I get a prompt that there is an OTA update. I can't decline it and it reboots the phone into recovery mode. I just choose to reboot again and it says the update did not complete.
I'm worried about loosing my root or worse. What do I need to do?
You can freeze the system app called "at&t software update".
Yeah, I could do that. But I would like to keep my phone updated if possible. Maybe it's better to wait for the official release of KitKat?
I would still like to get familiar with the process of updating while rooted though.
The irony in this is killing me...
If you update, you will lose root, but can just as easily get it back. And that is if the update even Installs with you rooted. It will normally fail. And since it is a custom ROM you should not even be getting a notification.
What bothers me is that you say you want to keep the phone updated, but continue to cancel the update.
I suggest you use a custom KK ROM. It is the most up to date.
Be it KnoxRaid based off of the leak for our device, or one of the few ported ROMs we have available.
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graydiggy said:
The irony in this is killing me...
If you update, you will lose root, but can just as easily get it back. And that is if the update even Installs with you rooted. It will normally fail. And since it is a custom ROM you should not even be getting a notification.
What bothers me is that you say you want to keep the phone updated, but continue to cancel the update.
I suggest you use a custom KK ROM. It is the most up to date.
Be it KnoxRaid based off of the leak for our device, or one of the few ported ROMs we have available.
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I guess I should explain that I'm still very new to the Android platform, having been a long time iPhone user. I've managed to figured out how to get my GN3 rooted and even install a custom ROM, but there are many things I still am unclear about on this platform.
Jailbreaking the iOS was relatively simple and straightforward. New iOS version comes out, wait for jailbreak, backup phone in iTunes and other apps like PKGBackup. Run jailbreak utility and restore everything the way it was.
Maybe I'm not quite understanding the process, but it seems hard to find direct step-by-step instructions for what I want to do. Maybe it's because there are so many different devices and ROMs, etc.
I don't want to lose all the apps/settings for my phone if I don't have to. I just don't know the best course of action to take in order to ensure that I am able to keep my phone updated and then rooted without losing everything.
I would also recommend the Knoxraid ROM. It's a great ROM and Drakey is constantly updating it. As of version 5.5 released today it's based on the latest OTA update. There is a step by step guide in the Knoxraid post that explains how to do everything. Take a look. It is pretty easy really.
As for backing up, you can backup all your apps/app data pretty easily with Titanium Backup. If you haven't already give it a look. There are tons of guides and how-to's available for how to use it. I know how overwhelming switching from iOS to android can be at first, but once you get the hang of things you will be so glad you switched. Good luck!
Any way to root 6.0.1 G920AUCS5DPJ1 yet? Did some research but could not find a way to root for this particular build. Any update?
I've been searching for an easier method to root my phone and I'm shocked at how few options there are to root my s6. I've always been able to come across more than enough information to root all the previous galaxy phones but for some reason there doesn't seem to be an easy method (like ping-pong root or something automated) I'd appreciate if anyone has any feedback on rooting the new build after the November security patch the build number is G925AUCS5DPK1
Hidd3nD3Ath said:
I've been searching for an easier method to root my phone and I'm shocked at how few options there are to root my s6. I've always been able to come across more than enough information to root all the previous galaxy phones but for some reason there doesn't seem to be an easy method (like ping-pong root or something automated) I'd appreciate if anyone has any feedback on rooting the new build after the November security patch the build number is G925AUCS5DPK1
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Feedback is, there is no root for the new builds.
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And is there any way to go back to old builds flashing with ODIN an old stock firmware?
I confirm: once you get the phone on a newer version, you can't downgrade it. I tried to go from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 flashing with ODIN. The ODIN process went well, but after the phone took the older load, it got stuck in the ANDROID screen
To get it back to life i had to flash again its original stock version at 6..0.1
So the question is if there will be any developement on S6 ATT 6.0.1 to get it rooted or TWRP. RIght now it seems we are stuck. No root, No custom rom I will keep my S4 that performs like a charm with root and custom roms!
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I confirm: once you get the phone on a newer version, you can't downgrade it. I tried to go from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 flashing with ODIN. The ODIN process went well, but after the phone took the older load, it got stuck in the ANDROID screen
To get it back to life i had to flash again its original stock version at 6..0.1
So the question is if there will be any developement on S6 ATT 6.0.1 to get it rooted or TWRP. RIght now it seems we are stuck. No root, No custom rom I will keep my S4 that performs like a charm with root and custom roms!
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Development has been essentially dead on the ATT version for many months.
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Thanks @dandrumheller for the reply
I am debating myself to try something even i know is highly possible i break the phone. I really need a rooted phone and this s6 is a replacement for my s6 given to me by ATT. If i can't get it rooted, it will sit there forever. So probably i will take the risk to try to root/load anything experimental
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Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.
paul_cherma said:
Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.
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1- Probably not usually the root or recovery will block OTA updates from installing, even if they download.
2- If you lose root, you can USUALLY re-root assuming the same root method wasnt patched. If it was patched, a new root method (though probably still through magisk) will be needed. If this is the case, its up to the dev to find that method, you might be without root for a while.
3-if you debloat, and receive an OTA, your will probably need to de-bloat again, thought I havent personally had experience with this.
Why are you rooting? Just to de-bloat? If so, root isn't really necessary...
As someone who's been in the rooting stage for many years, i can answer your questions.
1. You can not update your phone through OTA updates after rooting the device, as the device was modified in an unauthorized way. And since you own a galaxy phone, the e-fuse within the motherboard will blow and knox will be permanently blown. You can no longer use samsung pay, google pay, and any other app that uses the safetynet api, even after you unroot the device.
2. You will lose root every time you update. You will need ODIN on your PC in order to properly update your firmware and to re-root your device by following the procedure again that you used to root your device, unless samsung patched the method you used to root your device. You can always check what bootloader version you're on within the firmware. For example, on the galaxy S8, the firmware version is N950U1UES5CRG9. The 5th to last number of the firmware will tell you. In this case, N950U1UES5CRG9 is the 5th bootloader version. Keep this in mind once samsung starts to update your phone often.
3. You will have to debloat again from scratch. In order to fully update your device through ODIN, you need to download the full firmware file containing an AP (Firmware), BL (Bootloader) , CP (Modem), and CSC (Carrier File) and manually flash them.
Do keep in mind, it is possible to soft brick or even hard brick your device, so back up your data frequently if you decide to tinker with your device.
Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.
paul_cherma said:
Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.
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That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.
HighOnLinux said:
That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.
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if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?
Twodordan said:
if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?
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There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.
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There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.
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I mean xprivacy on xposed was the must have killer feature for any android device to turn your device into anything other than a privacy nightmare. If we can't do that any more we are f'd.
[EDIT] Looks like the new version of xprivacy, xprivacyLua is still supported for android 11, with magisk and EdXposed or LSPosed:
[CLOSED][APP][XPOSED][6.0+] XPrivacyLua - Android privacy manager [UNSUPPORTED]
XPrivacyLua Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later (successor of XPrivacy). Revoking Android permissions from apps often let apps crash or malfunction. XPrivacyLua solves this by feeding apps fake data...
forum.xda-developers.com
XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later - XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
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I am currently rooted running stock A11. I noticed that the update to A12 is now available. Just for fun, I checked updates on my phone & it says there is an update for A12 available. I thought being rooted, with the boot-loader unlocked, I wouldn't get updates. But there it is, asking me to download it.
Would it work if I downloaded and installed it via OTA on my phone? Would it wipe all my data (internal storage) and un-root me? Would it brick me? Just asking because I thought the proper way to update while rooted was this way (step #4), but doing it via OTA doesn't get much easier.
I am currently happy with how my phone is set up and running. I don't have an urgent need to update and really dislike setting up a phone as new. Of course, if an update to new a new OS is available...I'm going to want to install it eventually.
Thanks for the advice!
I'm not going past Q on my stock N10+'s, one still running very well on Pie. It's load is over 1.5 years old.
The first thing I do on my stock phones is disable OTA Updates. I may eventually update the Pie one to Q but it's more restrictive than Pie. I gain some nice features and it runs a bit faster, but loose some functionality as well.
Security simply isn't an issue with Pie in everyday use. Q may prove more troublesome.
Going to R would break them. It's a mess. CPU cycle burning scoped storage and tard repetitive security permissions. All my apps are vetted and trusted, many wouldn't load on R. Some aren't replaceable like my free office app which I use a lot. Plus forced encryption on first boot up... trashware.
Trust 12 to be better? When pigs fly.
Rule #1, if your OS is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be.
At the best you'll waste a lot of time that wasn't worth the trouble and at the worst end worse off than before. I'm not buying the hype.
mn1968 said:
I am currently rooted running stock A11. I noticed that the update to A12 is now available. Just for fun, I checked updates on my phone & it says there is an update for A12 available. I thought being rooted, with the boot-loader unlocked, I wouldn't get updates. But there it is, asking me to download it.
Would it work if I downloaded and installed it via OTA on my phone?
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Yes, you can update via OTA.
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Would it wipe all my data (internal storage) and un-root me?
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The OTA preserves /data, but because it updates the boot image, you will lose root.
mn1968 said:
Would it brick me? Just asking because I thought the proper way to update while rooted was this way (step #4), but doing it via OTA doesn't get much easier.
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Why would an OTA update brick your device? The answer is no. However, due to Android Verified Boot features, you will need to disable both dm-verity and vbmeta verification in order to flash and boot a patched boot image. Unfortunately, this has required a data wipe to work. Those of us on the Pixel 5 are experiencing the same issue and are still working on the "why". If you leave /vbmeta and /boot stock, you can still temporarily boot a patched image....which just means that you'll lose root when you reboot.
mn1968 said:
I am currently happy with how my phone is set up and running. I don't have an urgent need to update and really dislike setting up a phone as new. Of course, if an update to new a new OS is available...I'm going to want to install it eventually.
Thanks for the advice!
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Understandable. As I mentioned above, if you want to upgrade to Android 12 and have permanent root, it's likely that you will have to wipe. However, you can try following this guide and see if it works for you. Be warned, the user that posted that was on the 12 Beta, and had wiped previously when upgrading from Android 11. It won't cause a brick, but you may still have to wipe your device. If you're prepared to bite that bullet, you can give it a try.
Ultimately, you have 3 options:
Stay on Android 11 with root
Upgrade to Android 12, keep data, but lose root
Upgrade to Android 12, most likely wipe data, and reroot.
blackhawk said:
Rule #1, if your OS is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be.
At the best you'll waste a lot of time that wasn't worth the trouble and at the worst end worse off than before. I'm not buying the hype.
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There is a certain degree of logic to this. I used Windows 7 and refused to update to 8.1 or 10 for a long time. Now that I'm on 10 Enterprise LTSC, I'm refusing to upgrade to 11. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I am rooted and running a rooted stock rom. I have no need for the tablet to be rooted and I want to go back to stock to see if it has gotten any better than it was when i rooted. I am currently downloading the stock firmware but it is seriously taking forever. Is there a github somewhere with the stock firmware someone can point me to.
You can try using Frija to download the firmware directly from Samsung's servers. Other than that, Sammobile is your best bet, but downloads are pretty slow.
Either way, once the firmware is downloaded, extract the files within it and use Odin to flash.
As for whether it will be better....Probably not. Samsung loves to stuff bloatware into their firmware, and the Tab A series are low end devices. I have a Tab A 8.0 that I ended up running an AOSP GSI on, and it's still slow as frozen snot.
Recently installed the latest version of Samsung's firmware - X200XXS2CWD2. After debloating, you'll be able to speed up the system.
However, that doesn't even come close to the increased performance you'll gain by flashing a GSI. The only problem is finding one which works well with this device