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The worst thing about this phone other than only 16GB is the on screen buttons :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vha62lcGSgs
I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.

this may come off as I'm defending the Nexus 4 mindlessly but I'm not a huge fan of touch screen gaming. The whole reason I got the Evo Shift instead of a higher end phone was for the keyboard so I could play my games the way I like. I actually just bought a PS3 controller for my phone but I have to wait until Sixaxis Controller updates for 4.2. Though of course it doesn't work with most app store games, but I don't really enjoy playing those anyways

Venekor said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vha62lcGSgs
I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.
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This is not a Google problem, this is an ap developer problem. They can design the game to function like you want but they choose not to. Blame them, not Google.
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The whole point is to create the "physical button feeling" yet have them flexible for different apps. I think its a great idea! Physical buttons are annoying and are locked into doing only one function. Getting rid of the navigation buttons is like telling apple to get rid of the app dock at the bottom of their phone..... that's the way it was designed for the majority of users. If you don't like it then find a way to change it....you can its Android.

Dude chill... the software buttons are just another method like capacitive touch buttons..just incorporated into the screen. jus look at the specs of the nexus 4 as it has a 4.5 inch screen... if u cant live with that and want a bigger screen then fine move on and get the one x+ or something that has 4.7 inch screen plus capacitive touch buttons.unless you want THEM to disappear in an app too...

If we are going to complain about button placement can we not start with developers persistence with placing menu buttons at the top of most apps! They either have long fingers or small phones. I found this annoying on my SGS1 and very annoying on my Note 2, for obvious reasons. IMO Boat Browser is one of the few browsers that have placed the menu and navigation buttons in a sensible place.

I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.

I haven't had to used on screen buttons with my gnex for about 10 months now and same with my Nexus 7 since I got it. There's a way to remove the on screen buttons by modding the res-framework apk. It's as simple as finding the option and and changing it then recompiling the new apk and pushing it to your phone.
Not sure if it's still this simple since I haven't had to do it for a while now that there are a few roms with the option to remove the Nav buttons. I would try if I had the Nexus 4 but that might not be for an while now.
I'm sure this feature will be included in nexus 4 roms too just be patience. I'm the meantime you can check out LMT, its a nav button alternative that uses pie menu that disappears when not in use.

If done right, the on-screen buttons are actually great.
If there are no dedicated buttons. they could either make the screen bigger, or remove the bezel on the bottom of the device, making it significantly smaller.
Also, there needs to be an option to hide them manually whenever you want, whether the application supports hiding the buttons or not. I know that there are such features in CM10 and other custom ROMs, but this needs to be a default feature on any device with on-screen buttons.

I like the buttons and they are not visible when viewing full screen video. That to me is when I care most about the screen space.
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I love the buttons. Looks so much better than actual hardware buttons.
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A lot of us like the onscreen buttons. If you don't, get another phone. Most don't have them. Those of us that like onscreen buttons have like 2 options, you have 100000. If Google puts capacitive buttons on the next Nexus because of whiners like you, I'm gonna be really upset.

I would have preferred hard buttons and a full 4.7 screen. Similar to the One X. There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons. Most game devs are gone make thier games for the biggest market which is hard button phones.
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seamus5 said:
I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.
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So am I. It makes navigating through the system easier and a lot smoother. Just like the multitasking icon, you don't have to press and hold like in the galaxy s phones for example. Also OP, the software keys disappear when you watch a vid, YouTube etc.... And you mentioned that they should use the bottom bezel, well that's where the notification light is.
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NardVa said:
There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons.
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Nope. There's lots. The two Nexus, all the new Motos, Sony have started using them (Xperia T), Asus Padfone uses them too.

I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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MattSkeet said:
I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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The worst thing about this phone is its ability to attract users like the OP who don't bother to look at what they are getting and then to come in here on XDA and create the most ridiculous threads. I hate that about this phone. Anyone know a fix?
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At first I thought it would bother me coming from a Gs2 Skyrocket but really it looks so much better. It does make it so much easier to navigate and if you don't like em we have all the best devs migrating to the N4 so I'm sure we will have many different setup options soon. I'm loving the stock right now though buttery smooth.
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I change my buttons all the time. Google may not, but I like my menu and search button. I much prefer on screen buttons.
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[Q] One handed mode

Is there an app I can launch from the desktop or a widget that will put the phone in one handed mode? I know I can do this manually by going into the settings but I was hoping to to be able to do it with a single tap
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You dont like using the gesture to initiate it?

Actually I have not tried that. Thanks.
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It's a pain to initiate at first but once you get it you can do it everytime. My advice is to swipe from off the screen, ignoring the little bump on the edge of the phone, just swipe right by it like it's not even there and go all the way to the middle of the screen and come back in a swift, fluid motion. Don't do it insanely fast but pretty quick. You'll get it. I can do it everytime now and honestly without this feature I might not have the note 3 right now.
I sold my note 2 because I got sick of climbing up the side of the phone when I was trying to use it with one hand. With this new feature I'm going to start looking for an 8 inch phone LMAO

HTC One M8 complaint thread.

I figure I make one thread where we all can voice our possible dislikes with this phone without having to create multiple threads with different complaints.
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Why make a complaint thread?? If you don't like a phone get another one.
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I love this phone. But you know with every great new device there's something to complain about. So why not just talk about it? Like I would of loved the settings button to be on the bottom rather than pulling down the top bar.
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not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that

smooth703 said:
not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that
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That's definitely sucks. Unfortunately that's something we going have to get use to.
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Complaints:
* The M8's screen is almost impossible to see when wearing polarized sunglasses. This problem is only when you hold the phone in portrait mode. In landscape mode it looks fine. This is a common problem with LCD screens, but there are steps HTC could have taken to eliminate it, such as using a 45 degree extinction angle, or using a compensating film.
* Button placement: I do not like M8's button placement. I find it hard to turn the phone on or off without inadvertently pressing one of the volume buttons. I greatly prefer M7's recessed volume rocker to M8's non-recessed rocker.
* THIS MAY BE FIXED WITH THE NEW RADIO FIRMWARE IN THE 1.54 UPDATE: My biggest complaint is the fact that the phone often takes over an hour to connect to LTE even when there is a STRONG signal.

My complaints:
1. The power button being on the top of such a large phone is pretty annoying. I came from the GS3, which had the lovely side power button. This is something that I will get used to though. It'd be nice if they made a gesture to lock the phone too.
2. Since the latest update, my mobile signal has been poor. Where I used to get LTE, I now get 3G only. My wifi signal is fantastic compared to the GS3, but the mobile internet is looking rough. If I don't see improvement, I may need to replace the phone to see if it can get better.
Everything else is just incredible. Even with these complaints, I freaking love this phone!

smooth703 said:
not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that
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IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area

hazmad said:
IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area
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i dont think we have spark in virginia still cant do both

hazmad said:
IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area
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No you can't.
Only way that's possible is if you're on wifi (obviously).

Here are mine, which I'm sure others have mentioned.
1) Size; I actually prefer the size of the M7 over this. It's hard to reach the power button as someone mentioned and the phone is very hard to hold without a case because it's slippery. It almost feels like I'm holding a gigantic EVO LTE. The m7 felt right in my hands. I was surprised because most of the reviews mentioned that it was easier to hold than the m7 due to the curved back. Using it with one hand is pretty tough because I'm so afraid I'm going to drop it.
2) The Gun Metal Gray definitely scratches very easy. I have a small scratch on the back of my phone already and I'm not quite sure how I got it since I baby my phone like my own kid. i was actually going to wait out for the silver version, but with Bestbuy price matching Amazon in conjunction with their $50 instant credit for people who registered their numbers, I felt like I needed to jump on it for $100.
3) Loss of data randomly (never happened on my M7); I understand there is only one antenna and Spark phones rely on CSFB and that it will eventually be fixed.
No other complaints other than those 3. Love the SD Card, Boomsound Speakers, Camera (Yes I do) and the amazing battery life. I no longer have to worry about running out of juice for the entire day.

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No you can't.
Only way that's possible is if you're on wifi (obviously).
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Ya, you're right I can't do it on this phone, could do it on my old one though

Apparently unlocking the bootloader prevents you from redeeming the Google Drive bonus. I still bought the device so why no freebie?
Still glad to be s off though.

newalker91 said:
I'm very tempted to buy this phone on my upgrade but I know that I do not want to cover it up with a case. My hands are rather grippy on smooth surfaces so I find the gunmetal gray to have a perfect finish. What I want to know is how scuffable the finish is on this phone. I only ever keep it in an empty clean pocket or laying back-down on my desk which is usually clean. Will I have an issue with tiny scratches accumulating in the clearcoat?
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I've gotten a couple light scratches and I baby my phone. Not sure how I got them. Never had a problem on the back of the m7.

Anyone else's earpiece crackle during a call or when listening to music? I've been through 2 of them that have been that way. Not sure if its supposed to be this way or what. It's not on the bottom speaker, just the top one.
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I ****ing loathe the bootsound with a passion
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My Observations
I got this phone as a precursor to replace my 5S, if the iPhone 6 doesn't have a 5" screen. I've only had it one day so far my observations are:
The phone takes a long time to load web pages and play youtube videos
The placement of the buttons is a bit awkward.
The Knock feature doesn't work all the time, nor do the swipe to unlock.
I must've gotten a factory defect, the screen is starting to come off in the upper right hand corner where the front camera sits. How that happened? I couldn't tell you.
I have the Sprint Spark Icon in the notification bar (Spark is in Orlando) but the switch between networks is sometimes slow.
Sometimes to get rid of notifications, I have to reboot the phone. Some icons will stay in the notification area even after the app is closed or I clear it.
Coming over from iOS, not being able to quick scroll to the top of a page is frustrating to say the least. The only place that works is in Blinkfeed, which is pretty cool, IMO, thus far.
Twitter apps for Android suck (can't knock the phone for that though.)

I hate the loud beep you get in your ear when ending a call if you're wearing a Bluetooth.
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My only gripe is the stupid HTC in a space not used for anything else. If we are dropping capacitive buttons, give us more screen in that spot... not a space for logo.

chemjb said:
I ****ing loathe the bootsound with a passion
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What's wrong with it
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Considering S2 purchase (T813 9.7)

I'd like to ask you experts some questions regarding this tablet.
My current Nexus 9 is quite slow and has a cracked screen, so I'm looking to replace it with some decent hardware and a close to stock android experience.
I have real trouble finding something suitable, and I'm considering the tab S2 9.7 with the purpose of having a custom rom on it, maybe lineage.
I can't stand the hardware keys that Samsung uses (with the recents and back buttons the wrong way around and still using the bloody kitkat icons)
It would be alright if I could just ignore them and use softkeys navbar instead. Do any custom roms support an on-screen nav bar?

You should upgrade to S2 . Google phone and tablet suks and expensive. It is a very good tablet and reasonable price $250-300 for refurbished one, like new out of the box. As for hardware key, I never use it except home button for fs log in. I use GMD gesture (free) for navigation and it work quite well for back, home, recent apps, full screen. For me I like stock Rom, it is not that bad like people said. It is stable, smooth and good battery.

ASW1 said:
I'd like to ask you experts some questions regarding this tablet.
My current Nexus 9 is quite slow and has a cracked screen, so I'm looking to replace it with some decent hardware and a close to stock android experience.
I have real trouble finding something suitable, and I'm considering the tab S2 9.7 with the purpose of having a custom rom on it, maybe lineage.
I can't stand the hardware keys that Samsung uses (with the recents and back buttons the wrong way around and still using the bloody kitkat icons)
It would be alright if I could just ignore them and use softkeys navbar instead. Do any custom roms support an on-screen nav bar?
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I don't like them too. But if you will use it everyday it will subside. Now i even kind of like them. I use them with combination with 'home button' app. I customized it to up-downleft to back button so i don't have to press this squishi home button everytime. I don't think you need custom rom until 8.0. Stock 7.0 is looks good and almost bugless. In a half a year probably. I had and still have nexus 9 too.

I don't think I will subside, I haven't made my choice yet. But if there's no way of using a navigation bar instead of the hard keys that's probably going to be a deal-breaker for me.
I'm also considering the pixel C and although I don't like the weight and price of that, it's got a lot of good points.
The Lenovo tab 4 10 plus could be good too, but I don't see much support for that happening in the future. In that case I'd rather pay a 100 more and get the pixel.

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I don't think I will subside, I haven't made my choice yet. But if there's no way of using a navigation bar instead of the hard keys that's probably going to be a deal-breaker for me.
I'm also considering the pixel C and although I don't like the weight and price of that, it's got a lot of good points.
The Lenovo tab 4 10 plus could be good too, but I don't see much support for that happening in the future. In that case I'd rather pay a 100 more and get the pixel.
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I was a previous user of the Nexus 9 as well and the T813 I got now is much better (except for the speakers). As for the buttons, using Omni you can use on screen nav buttons natively and disable the hardware buttons (I find the hardware buttons better but YMMV).

ffh2303 said:
I was a previous user of the Nexus 9 as well and the T813 I got now is much better (except for the speakers). As for the buttons, using Omni you can use on screen nav buttons natively and disable the hardware buttons (I find the hardware buttons better but YMMV).
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Thanks for your response, are you using Omni yourself?
I'm wondering how well the softkeys work. I presume for instance the on screen keyboard gets moved up a bit so that the space bar for instance is not partly underneath the navigation bar? (Don't know how else to explain this without giving an example)

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Thanks for your response, are you using Omni yourself?
I'm wondering how well the softkeys work. I presume for instance the on screen keyboard gets moved up a bit so that the space bar for instance is not partly underneath the navigation bar? (Don't know how else to explain this without giving an example)
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Yes, I'm using Omni myself. Just switched from LineageOS yesterday in fact. So far it runs great with Magisk and my usual apps. As for the navigation bars, the experience is just like the Nexus 9 where the space bar is moved on top of the nav bar instead of under it. It's not an overlay afterall.

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Yes, I'm using Omni myself. Just switched from LineageOS yesterday in fact. So far it runs great with Magisk and my usual apps. As for the navigation bars, the experience is just like the Nexus 9 where the space bar is moved on top of the nav bar instead of under it. It's not an overlay afterall.
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And why did you decide to move away from lineageOS? I see that for each Omni install you have to do a full wipe. I was hoping that on my next tablet I would get away from flashing custom roms because it just eats up too much time. I'm not very enthusiastic about buying an S2 just for putting Omni rom on it and making myself dependent on that.
Maybe I'm just being too picky, love the screen and form factor of the S2 but I don't want to use this clicking home button all the time. I had that for a while on an iPhone that I used and I hated that button more every day.

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And why did you decide to move away from lineageOS? I see that for each Omni install you have to do a full wipe. I was hoping that on my next tablet I would get away from flashing custom roms because it just eats up too much time. I'm not very enthusiastic about buying an S2 just for putting Omni rom on it and making myself dependent on that.
Maybe I'm just being too picky, love the screen and form factor of the S2 but I don't want to use this clicking home button all the time. I had that for a while on an iPhone that I used and I hated that button more every day.
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I'm was having some weird stutters with LineageOS + Magisk so I figured I'll try Omni. I share your sentiments as well about having a tablet that I don't need to mess about with but right now there's just not much of a choice available. The Pixel C has issues, the Tab S3 is outrageously expensive (in my country) and the Zenpad 3S has no root so I'm left with the Tab S2. I actually had an iPad Air 2 for a month before buying the Tab S2, but I sold it because it can't do what I need it to do and iOS gets on my nerves.

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I'm was having some weird stutters with LineageOS + Magisk so I figured I'll try Omni. I share your sentiments as well about having a tablet that I don't need to mess about with but right now there's just not much of a choice available. The Pixel C has issues, the Tab S3 is outrageously expensive (in my country) and the Zenpad 3S has no root so I'm left with the Tab S2. I actually had an iPad Air 2 for a month before buying the Tab S2, but I sold it because it can't do what I need it to do and iOS gets on my nerves.
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Out of curiosity, what couldn't you Air 2 do that you needed it to do? I have both an Air 2 and an 8" Tab S2 and I'm finding I use the S2 more because of the handy form factor and it does most things I want it to do quite well.
The S2 is the first Android tablet that I haven't rooted and put a custom ROM on - I'm sticking with Nougat and Nova Prime as a launcher.

What did you buy? I find now nav bar pesky on my phone and like capacitive buttons though like you don't like mechanical button (replaced with swipe up) , i hate it in iphone too, they could have ridden of that stupid home button years ago, completly useless but they persisteed. Now iphone x, swipe to home. I remember I was doing that with ipod touch 2 and 4, swipe to home with activator cydia app. After 7 years they've decided to do the same, what a progress

I went from the Nexus 9 to the 8" tab S2.
It isn't blazingly fast, but its very consistent. (which is the opposite of the Nexus 9.) I use an app that swaps the hardware buttons the other way around. The S2 can also keep a few things in memory unlike the N9. :victory:

How do you think about your Nokia8

I bought Nokia8 a month ago.
It has almost all good functions of Nokia( 2 click rouse, turn over and quiet), but the clock can not work after turn off the power...
I'm from China, some apps will notice each other all the time to run, I can not stop this without root (but it can not be root for now, It can be set in original Android)...
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Good camera and endurance.
I do not like the appearance of Nokia 8 at first time, but I like it now.
Maybe a little sick of screen..
How about you ?

Could you please tell us why are you sick of your screen? Are you facing problems?
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I purchased it for its size and one handed feel.
The only other decent alternative in small screen was pixel 2 but it is nearly double in price.
So far I love it as I have small hands and it is very comfortable to use.

wupuyuan said:
I bought Nokia8 a month ago.
It has almost all good functions of Nokia( 2 click rouse, turn over and quiet), but the clock can not work after turn off the power...
I'm from China, some apps will notice each other all the time to run, I can not stop this without root (but it can not be root for now, It can be set in original Android)...
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Good camera and endurance.
I do not like the appearance of Nokia 8 at first time, but I like it now.
Maybe a little sick of screen..
How about you ?
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Hey, I too don't like the display. Does your phone display have a bluish tint? Grey scale is way off in my device.