Curious if Always on Display is a known battery drainer and hog?
I really like AoD, have it on my 2 XL and 3 XL always, but on my 4 XL I tried a couple different days with it off the entire day, and it seemed I got much better battery life on those days I had it off. But that also could have been due to other things, maybe a weekend not on the phone a ton, or some other thing.
To me Always on Display is a big deal, a very nice feature, not really a fan of having it off, with only using the Motion Sense thing to notice you nearby to activate the screen when you walk near, that seems so so sometimes works, sometimes not.
So, is AoD a known battery killer?
Zorachus said:
Curious if Always on Display is a known battery drainer and hog?
I really like AoD, have it on my 2 XL and 3 XL always, but on my 4 XL I tried a couple different days with it off the entire day, and it seemed I got much better battery life on those days I had it off. But that also could have been due to other things, maybe a weekend not on the phone a ton, or some other thing.
To me Always on Display is a big deal, a very nice feature, not really a fan of having it off, with only using the Motion Sense thing to notice you nearby to activate the screen when you walk near, that seems so so sometimes works, sometimes not.
So, is AoD a known battery killer?
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Not really. Took these on my two year old Pixel 2 XL before I factory reset it to sell. 5 days of standby and one of the days I had it face up while the others I had it face down.
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Disregard the 11% battery screenshots, if they're still showing up. Those were from my Pixel 4 XL.
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I had to turn mine off also. Now I just use the tap or raise options to see any notifications. Battery is much better now.
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Disregard the 11% battery screenshots, if they're still showing up. Those were from my Pixel 4 XL.
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My experience says it sucks juice in a big way. This can be ameliorated a little bit by keeping the screen down at night but the thing sucks juice and you don't need to ask us, just watch your stats for a few days; you'll see that AOD is one of your bigger consumers. That said I keep it on, I like to play with my toys and I can survive through the day. Whether the drain is worth the result is your call, not a lot any of us can say about that.
AOD is not like Ambient display, ambient display keeps phone awake the whole time so that whenever it recieves a notification, any notification, it'll turn your screen on, that'll drain it a lot of course if you're using it + AOD.
AOD drains only 0.5% of battery per hour, not that much of course.
You need to play around with your phone Settings.
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I've used around 5 Android phones (starting from 2.1 now up to 4.3) and for some reason, they all have a pathetic standby time. When I say standby, I mean when you press the power button and it turns the screen off and you don't touch it. Why is android the only OS that has this problem? WP, fine. IOS, probably the best one (only good thing about it).
I've tried different kernels, using no apps from the play store at all, turning off Google's location service, using greenify, and a bunch more. My battery still drops to ~70% at 4:00 starting at 100 at 7:00. When I briefly had an iphone and windows phone, I always was amazed at how my battery was around ~90-95% at 4:00. I know most people actually USE their phone during the day, so its probably not as noticeable.
Does anyone know the real reason for this? By real, I mean the deep down reason for this. Is java just a hog?
I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
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I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
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Yeah I thought that, but I said I tried it with no apps installed. Same thing.
Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
i disagree
My battery drains 1% every six hours
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Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
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I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
Mine also has great standby time...
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I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
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I am talking about stock Android as well. I have had great battery life with my last three phones.
I've had no such problems with "android" in general. Some roms / apps yes. But after fixing those issues it was pretty much what would have been expected / what reviewers/other people get.
I would recommend getting something like gsam battery monitor and let it run at least a day and then post some screenshots. Maybe we can give some concrete advice then.
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Hey,
It's been 2 weeks since I got my Black 32Gig Nexus 5, I was a little bit afraid about the battery backup of N5 from reviews, every reviewer pointed out that N5 battery is downright bad but after getting my device I found out that N5 battery is NOT that bad but actually offers good backup :fingers-crossed: , the funny thing is when I charged first time and used my N5 it went down after just 5 hours with SOT of 2 hours !! but what makes me wonder is that after my first charging backup starts to increase !! I don't know why is this happening but battery backup actually increased noticeably day after day, I just don't know how this is happening may be battery is taking time to set up, I know first days we use our device with everything turned on thereby draining battery more than after getting used to but I can confirm that's not the case, backup is actually increasing. I have attached images of my current backup+settings.
Battery Status
Total time on battery : 20 Hours
Screen on time : 5 hours
Settings
Not Rooted.
Brightness: 20%(Approx.), Auto was too bright.
Location : On all the time with Battery saving mode.
WIFI: On all the time
Data: On all the time(HSPDA)
Bluetooth/NFC: Off all the time(I didn't had a chance to use it)
Google Now/ Location reporting : On
Vibration on typing(Key touch): Off (prolly most don't care about this but a big battery drainer)
Usage
30 mins of phone call
30-40 mins of web browsing with Chrome
30 mins of gaming (Temple run and NFS)
20 mins of music
Couple of photos taken
Couple of apps downloaded with playstore etc
I know battery is NOT a pro side of N5 but 20 hours is all I expect from a quad core smartphone !! also backup is really not a dealbreaker for Nexus 5.
My humble small review
Cons (That would go first)
Speaker - This is the biggest problem and a "can be deal breaker" con of N5, I never expected BOOMSOUND from this phone but current ouput is downright bad.
Camera App - Sucks big time, lot of time to focus etc but don't take me wrong image quality is NICE.
A bigger battery would have been better (Not saying current backup is bad)
Button rattling, negligible but shows production carelessness.
IR Blaster would have been nice, It's kinda asking a lot for $350 device it would have been a bigger plus since Kitkat is natively supporting it.
Pros
Everything else than cons about the phone are huge pros :angel:
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20 hours of battery life is amazing
Is battery backup the same thing as battery life?
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Is battery backup the same thing as battery life?
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I didn't get what you asked !!
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I didn't get what you asked !!
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He was confused with that term so am i
He's talking about battery life. Great battery stats you have posted thanks
NX5
No idea how your achieving this because I can't.
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While I haven't seen any crazy battery life from this phone I have been getting 4½ hours screen time with 20+ hours on a charge consistently. After I figured after that touch sounds were causing a bad wakelock I was having the first couple days.
So I'm perfectly happy with battery life, its an improvement over my G'Nex and that's on LTE the entire time.
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While I haven't seen any crazy battery life from this phone I have been getting 4½ hours screen time with 20+ hours on a charge consistently. After I figured after that touch sounds were causing a bad wakelock I was having the first couple days.
So I'm perfectly happy with battery life, its an improvement over my G'Nex and that's on LTE the entire time.
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So you're saying touch sounds can be a huge battery drain?
Wow never thought that the N5 can achieve 5 hours SOT!
I have a very similar phone usage, so this is a great post, thank you!
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Hi all,
I am new to this forum...just quickly asking if there is any Lt25i user on this forum having the same issue with the battery. I've been using it for about 8 months with a stock rom (4.1.2, all updated). It is good device in generally apart from the battery which drain itself in about 8 hours or 9 hours of normal office worker use (you know, reply 20 or 30ish msgs or a couple calls total 30 mins tops, play around during lunch time, on a HSPA+ network, not LTE, about 20 apps installed on the device and no games at all).. and sometimes you can see the battery percentage drops down by one or two percent when you have been whatsapping continuously for about 10 mins..That's so much quicker than the other phone that I have (Galaxy S4). any one experiencing the same issue? what would you recommend? I am planning to flash the rom but not entirely sure which to choose. Your response is appreciated.
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Youre not alone buddy. Although to many causes frustrations, if I'm just texting (whatsapp) I just leave it on Edge, or disable mobile data when im not using the phone. It's when I'm surfing the net that I'll leave it on HSPA+.
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A lil battery optimization even on this 'tiny' battery by 2014 standards could have gone a long way.
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To be quite honest, 5.5 hours of screen on is pretty darn awesome for any Android phone except behemoths like RAZR MAXX or Galaxy Note models.
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Youre not alone buddy. Although to many causes frustrations, if I'm just texting (whatsapp) I just leave it on Edge, or disable mobile data when im not using the phone. It's when I'm surfing the net that I'll leave it on HSPA+.
A lil battery optimization even on this 'tiny' battery by 2014 standards could have gone a long way.
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However, with HSPA+ always on I can only get around 3.5-4 hours SOT at 15 plus hours on battery. The OP should install BBS and check what eats his battery on the background. 8 hours is pathetic.
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WTF??? What am I doing that I have never gotten more than 3 hours of screen time with this phone? And I'm using greenify...
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WTF??? What am I doing that I have never gotten more than 3 hours of screen time with this phone? And I'm using greenify...
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Turn off internet + lowest brightness + auto brightness and wole ~5h for sure
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WTF??? What am I doing that I have never gotten more than 3 hours of screen time with this phone? And I'm using greenify...
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Turn off internet + lowest brightness + auto brightness and wole ~5h for sure
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And surf the net and/or text with mobile data off at lowest brightness in broad daylight
I have the same issue but couldn't find the reason why
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Hello dear XDA friends, Although I don't post a lot I still love you all .
Anyway, I am really tempted to get a Mate S ($/€319) after my LG G3's screen basically broke in half, the battery exploded and the touchscreen only working 10%, it's basically useless right now and I need a phone to replace it for a while until I decide what's going to be my ''real'' phone (I hate Apple but the 7+ Camera is amazing but then again maybe note 7 refurbs will be cheap.) So yeah I need to bridge the gap and I want to gift it to a relative when I'm done with it.
So is it worth it for 300 bucks?
Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.
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Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.
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What's the longest screen on time you got?
It actually depends what you gonna do with this phone.
I own it for last 8 months never really felt need for better battery during normal usage.
My typical usage with all the time brightness at auto and slider at max ( which on huawei even when inside usually means 80-90% brightness ) and outside always even when is dim day is 100% or boosted screen mode ends up with average 4:30-5h SOT with around 18-20hrs on battery. This is with about 60% wifi 40% 3g.
This includes bunch of social apps, youtube , music, calls, sms, light gaming of around 1hr per day.
The great thing about this phone is its soc and screen, the to S-amoled it never gets hot thus for it doesn't drain battery life fast like snapdragon devices.
Biggest fall of this soc is its GPU it isn't as good for heavy games like s810 devices for example.
If you're not a gamer I highly suggest this phone. If you have more money I suggest p9+, its a beast in all regards.
Here my current battery life stats
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What's the longest screen on time you got?
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As you can see, I charged my phone and unplugged at 00.14. Wi-Fi off and no mobile data, no screen on. No apps running apart from home launcher and myProfile. All others are greenified. So in around 8h sleep it decreased by 20%.
I tried many tricks and I consider myself skilful for this (my LG G2 could last 3 days) but cannot do better with this one. The ROM is not good enough yet and update frequency is not good.
Got the LG G4 so this one can be closed
My battery life on screen time alway 3-4hrs only as following .. it is normal ?? Cos i notice many people will get 5 to 7hrs screen on time.. pls advice
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My battery life on screen time alway 3-4hrs only as following .. it is normal ?? Cos i notice many people will get 5 to 7hrs screen on time.. pls adviceView attachment 4310563View attachment 4310564
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Normal is relative. Is it a bit on the low side? Most definitely. Normal? Maybe. It really comes down to the apps you have and how you use your phone. I personally get about 5hrs SOT and I'm fine with that. Standby drain is more important to me than SOT. There are battery saving tips and trick you can try to google or youtube.
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Normal is relative. Is it a bit on the low side? Most definitely. Normal? Maybe. It really comes down to the apps you have and how you use your phone. I personally get about 5hrs SOT and I'm fine with that. Standby drain is more important to me than SOT. There are battery saving tips and trick you can try to google or youtube.
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My phone drains like 3% per hour on IDLE. I don't have AoD nor anything in particular that should be causing this drain. I have no idea why. The battery life seems to be fine for actual usage, but teeeerrible for AOD.
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My phone drains like 3% per hour on IDLE. I don't have AoD nor anything in particular that should be causing this drain. I have no idea why. The battery life seems to be fine for actual usage, but teeeerrible for AOD.
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3% per hour no AOD is bad. You have an app causing major drain for sure. You might have to deep dive in your battery stats to find the culprit. Last resort would be safe mode to see if your able to reproduce the issue. You should go to the battery life thread and ask around.
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3% per hour no AOD is bad. You have an app causing major drain for sure. You might have to deep dive in your battery stats to find the culprit. Last resort would be safe mode to see if your able to reproduce the issue. You should go to the battery life thread and ask around.
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I'm not sure what it could possibly be since my old Note 8 did this too, but it alternated every other cycle or so where it would drain less than 1% or 3%+. I exchanged it for a new one and this issue is happening again except it was completely fine for the first week or two. There was no app that I downloaded between the time that it was fine and not fine.
I guess I'll repost this in the battery thread.
i am not losing battery overnight as much as you guys, my problem now is i can't get 6-7hrs of sot anymore, 4-5 is as much as i get, and it's only 1 month old.
There was a thread about Android OS drain.
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I miss my note 4. I use to get around 5-8 sot. With this phone only 3 and half hours. That's with everything turned off too. On my note 4 I had just about everything turned on. Will be waiting for the note 10 to release then I will buy the note 9