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[Q] Question about display

Hey everybody, well I just got my pair of tangerine Google Glass this morning and am currently running the set up and update to xe12. During both of which I can see about 5 lightly colored white specks on the right hand side of the screen. Is this normal or can anyone else explain why they are there? I called glass support and asked and Chris answered that they may just be from shipping so I wiped all sides of the prism with a clean micro fiber cloth and I can still see them. They almost look like stars in the distance if that makes sense. Anyway I also asked about the protective film that is installed on booth the front and back of the prism and Chris said those are suppose to stay on and are permanent so I shouldn't remove those. Any ideas would be appreciated. It's not a huge deal but still something I noticed right away. Kind of like dead pixels on a cell phone or tablet display.

I didn't have it but I went in for a fitting a few weeks ago and it still feels like it was just a blur
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Yep that's exactly what they are... dead pixels. My Glass has two from what I can see and they are along the bottom. Now when I first noticed and contacted Glass support I was told since the 2 dead pixels were not interfering with the function of Glass and I could still very clearly see the display, that it was not enough to warrant a swap. This being a beta or prototype, it won't be perfect so unless it hinders you from using Glass you may not be able to swap. I'm hoping my hardware swap will be flawless ?
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EnemyOfGlaDOS said:
Yep that's exactly what they are... dead pixels. My Glass has two from what I can see and they are along the bottom. Now when I first noticed and contacted Glass support I was told since the 2 dead pixels were not interfering with the function of Glass and I could still very clearly see the display, that it was not enough to warrant a swap. This being a beta or prototype, it won't be perfect so unless it hinders you from using Glass you may not be able to swap. I'm hoping my hardware swap will be flawless ?
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Thanks for your reply. I've actually decided to return my pair of Glass for primarily battery life concerns and actual use case scenario's. I've found that instead of Glass being a companion to my cell phone it has really become just another separate entity and that is usefulness in my everyday life doesn't currently justify the $1,700 I spent. The battery drain and drop overnight for unknown reasons is very troubling and needs to be addressed before a consumer release. 3-4 hours of real world use just isn't enough for me. Anyways good luck to the rest of you explorers out there and I'm sure I'll be rejoining the forums after the retail release. That is as long as the price is reasonable enough and my issues have been addressed from the pre-release version.

kflanegan said:
Thanks for your reply. I've actually decided to return my pair of Glass for primarily battery life concerns and actual use case scenario's. I've found that instead of Glass being a companion to my cell phone it has really become just another separate entity and that is usefulness in my everyday life doesn't currently justify the $1,700 I spent. The battery drain and drop overnight for unknown reasons is very troubling and needs to be addressed before a consumer release. 3-4 hours of real world use just isn't enough for me. Anyways good luck to the rest of you explorers out there and I'm sure I'll be rejoining the forums after the retail release. That is as long as the price is reasonable enough and my issues have been addressed from the pre-release version.
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I've found the same to be true. The entire left side of glass is empty, why not have a battery on that side... I think years from now they'll be selling dual display glass, where the left would display one set of info, and the right could have another. It's so early though, there's not even an option to look at a "photo" app. I think the entire setup needs a little rethinking. Why not have an "APP" card where you can scroll through apps? and a "Gallery" app where you can see photos/videos you've taken, once the cards have gone so far you've lost that picture completely unless you connect to a PC or use your phone.
Lot's of things simple things like displaying date/weather on the main screen or controlling brightness manually aren't even options?!? I see this going another route once it gets out of the hands of the current folks at Google, it's like Android is one way, and Glass is a totally different entity itself at this point...
Getting my $1,620 back and buying some parts for my Mustang! Good luck explorers, I've had fun but it's just not there yet.

[Q] from s6Edge to Z3C

hello, i have decided to sell my S6EDGE 64GB before its late
i have realized holding Ferrari is useless if u have no fuel to drive it.
so i have heard many good tales about the z3 and the z3c battery life and performance and i am about to get one soon and wanted to know if theres anything i should test immidietly when i get my hands on it,
any hardware failures i should check that are common(out of the box)?
would be happy to hear about your Screen On time too !
thanks!

Top phone guy here

Onscreen time depends on many things, but usually up to 6-7 hours with low screen light and good network conditions.
No hardware failures so far.
The only thing I can remember is somebody experienced the breaking of the glass without any shock.

istux said:
Onscreen time depends on many things, but usually up to 6-7 hours with low screen light and good network conditions.
No hardware failures so far.
The only thing I can remember is somebody experienced the breaking of the glass without any shock.
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if u record 4G its happens, u even got warning on start

Something to note is that if you want longer battery life stay with kitkat. 5.0 seems to have slightly worse (not extremely) battery life.
As far as hardware goes if you don't plan on using a case get a screen protector on the back asap, it scratches really easily. The camera glass on the back has a coating that tends to scratch easily too, so another reason to get a protector or case on the phone right away. Might as well grab a good tempered glass screen protector for the front glass too, not sure if its sony glass or gorilla. Sony glass tends to be softer (scratches easily) but more durable (less brittle).

im a HEAVY user. Im talking a good 1 - 3 hours of hearthstone, lots of web browsing and facebook. I'd say my brightness is set to 60% and my screen on time is usually around 5 hours. Lasts me pretty much all day

mosesbd said:
hello, i have decided to sell my S6EDGE 64GB before its late
i have realized holding Ferrari is useless if u have no fuel to drive it.
so i have heard many good tales about the z3 and the z3c battery life and performance and i am about to get one soon and wanted to know if theres anything i should test immidietly when i get my hands on it,
any hardware failures i should check that are common(out of the box)?
would be happy to hear about your Screen On time too !
thanks!
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Drop the phone into water. It should be waterproof. If it isnt sent it back.

This is a fine phone. I second the tempered glass suggestion, I got one for both front and back.
The camera is brilliant, especially if you go beyond the superior-auto and fiddle with manual settings. The dedicated camera button (which is also a quick launch button for the camera) is a great feature.
Regarding battery and SOT then I am going to post a screenshot from GsamBatteryMonitor (and these are stats with the snapchat update battery drain issue which are being felt in devices from most manufacturers)
I recommend the z3c - it is a great device.

The best I could get on my s6e
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mosesbd said:
The best I could get on my s6e
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You used it heavily or...?
Get z3c and you'll get far far better ones.
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Buyers remorse

Anyone regret getting it?

Auga said:
Anyone regret getting it?
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Only thing I dont like is that the USB C port cutout is too sharp. When I hold it with my finger, it seem to cut it at times

No regrets at all. Just AOSP rom would be a lot better, which should arrive soon.

The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.

satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
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KOLIOSIS said:
Try the Pelosi case.
It's a slim TPU case with a sandstone finish & available in several colors.
It's available on eBay & several other on line retail sites
Sent from my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4 using XDA Labs
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I've seen the Pelosi case online. The product images looked like the case didn't offer much in terms of protection, especially around the screen. Also the material seemed to be very light, possibly to keep the case slim. The case looks good and I was tempted to buy. I didn't because of these reasons.
But if you have the case and its good, please post photos in my thread. Link
I created that thread as there are very few good cases available for this device and if everyone could post photos of what case and screen protector they had on the device, it would help other buyers too.

satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.

nikhil.mehta said:
There are 3 armor cases available on amazon finally. One looks bulletproof lol. I have shared a link on the tough case thread.
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That's the Love Mei Powerful case! I saw it a few days back on ebay. Mine is on the way from China. Did you get it too?
It should arrive next week. Have you ordered this too?
The case is a bit large though.
Please post pictures of your current setup on this thread and also if you happen to receive the Love Mei case before me.
Check out the case I am currently using. I have added photos here. Also available on ebay.

Auga said:
Anyone regret getting it?
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I did, until I got the unlock approval. I immediately flashed the xiaomi.eu rom and (most) of my gripes were dealt with; being android auto not working and horrible background battery drain. I still hate the home screen icon backgrounds, the fact it wont rotate, and the stock dpi... but other than that I am happy, for now.

My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.

omniphil said:
My only complaint is that the screen is too small for my liking. I've had several larger phones in the past and I really miss the extra screen real estate. It almost seems like the screen is too skinny and long. So webpages are still small but long.
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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.

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Try 320dpi. I'm lovin it! 320 was the stock dpi on the Xperia Z Ultra I had a few years back. And it works great on the Mix too. I feel 320 should have been the default DPI on the Mix.
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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.

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I thought a dpi that low would break things on this device? Like the icons get screwed up or something?
I had a Z ultra too, loved it.
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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!

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No issues mate! I'm on the EU ROM and I don't see any issues at 320. This should have been the stock DPI. I can confirm that everything works fine. No issues with icon or any UI elements. Stock apps and all the other usual apps work great as well. All good! You'll be able to see more info on the screen and I bet you'll love 320!
I was waiting for something like the Z Ultra to show up. And finally it did! If you had the Z Ultra, you may remember that camera wasn't Sony's priority. It was all about the experience. And Xiaomi has made that experience even better! The mix is just perfect!
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I just tried 320DPI, oh man, I love it!!! It even fixed my News360 app that I love but would only show me 2 articles per screen on this phone and now shows 6!
The only downside is that top status bar with the clock and battery and such is pretty small. But that's certainly a good compromise as the reset of the phone looks normal now, all I did was bump the UI font size up from small to medium and it all looks great.
All of the icons appear to be working fine, but I use Nova Launcher, so maybe that why.
320 DPI is pretty much a standard DPI for android, and so I expect alot of apps are tuned for that DPI.
Thanks for the great suggestion! The phone looks like a normal phone now....

Received mine today. I thought I could get by without a case but no way. It's slippery! Luckily a case came with it.

satishp said:
The device has a piss-poor camera. Guess that's the only thing I regret. Its so bad that some phones almost 2years old takes better photos.
This is because of the very small Omnivision sensors used on this device.
But I knew about this even before I bought the device and since I don't take a lot of photos on my phone, it doesn't bother me much.
The fact that the device is very fragile and doesn't have any premium cases available also bugs me a bit. I really wish there were some decent looking protective cases for this phone.
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There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?

jonas_lobo said:
There are, just use eBay or AliExpress.
About the camera you can take better pictures with another camera app or just learn to hold still and focus correctly xD I can take n decent photos.
It was easier in my s7 edge but even so I knew from the beginning this camera was inferior.
Here you have some photos taken by the default camera app and being steady.
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Those are some good clicks mate! Like I said, camera was not a priority for me when I bought this device. I usually don't use my phone cameras a lot and only for some occasional snaps.. I knew that this device had an inferior camera compared to the competition.
Most people usually depend on their phone's camera for random clicks like when your drunk friend is doing something funny at a party or when it appears as if your dog is smiling. Random events like these, when you may not have your dedicated camera at hand. That's when your phone's camera is handy. And for casual spur of the moment clicks like these, this phone's camera is quite unreliable. In most cases those moments you intended to capture would end up as a blurry or noisy mess.
Like you said, if you put enough effort, you may be able to get a few good shots like you just shared. But that was not my point as it defeats the purpose of a phone's camera.

jonas_lobo said:
I would say it's the same type of quality of my old LG g3 if you learn how to use it ?
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Jeez, nothing wrong with those at all.

I agree as well. Took a few shots and pics look fine. From all the reviews, I was expecting worse.

Best phone I've ever owned.
iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5 -> HTC One -> Samsung S5 LTE-A -> Note 7 (pretty nice) -> Xiaomi Mi Mix.
This thing is a MONSTER. Fast as hell, best battery I've ever seen (better than the Note 7), humongous display, sexy as build quality, tons of RAM, tons of fast memory, fast charging, etc. I'm surprised this exists.

still worth buying?

My s7 edge is pretty busted up and I need a new phone ASAP. Is the note 8 still worth buying? I'm between it and the s8 plus. I hear the s9 is coming out in a few months or something. Are there any known defects I should be aware of so I can inspect the phone when I get it? I'm weary because I had the note 7 and that a fiasco that was.

I LOVE my Note 8. I've had it for about a month, and had an S8+ before that. The S8+ and the N8 are very similar, actually. The N8 has a 0.1 inch bigger screen with less rounded corners. It is bigger, thicker, and heavier than the S8+, but also feels more solid and premium.
The N8 has 2GB more RAM and a dual lens camera with 2x optical zoom. But the S8+ has a bigger battery.
The real differentiating factor is the S-Pen. Some people use it everyday, others never take it out of the phone. I personally use it more and more.
The S8+ is cheaper for basically the same experience, and I was very happy with it, but I found a great deal on a used N8, so I bought it. I think it's worth every penny over the S8+. But I wound up keeping my S8+ as a backup phone anyway, so now I have both. Either one is a worthy upgrade to the S7 Edge.
As far as defects to look out for? There were issues with the S8+ screen having a red or pink tint. The bigger issue was the one that had UNEVEN tinting. So check out the screen and make sure it's true white and even all across. I don't believe the N8 had that same problem, or at least it was not as prevalent.
Now, do you get the S8+, the N8, or wait for the S9+? Here are my thoughts:
True the S9+ is a couple months away, so you could wait for it. But then when it releases, the Note 9 will be just a couple months away, so you could wait for it. But then what about the S10? Etc... There is ALWAYS something better right around the corner.
Honestly, the S9+ looks like an incremental upgrade. Dual camera and 6GB of RAM. Both of which are available in the Note 8 now. It will have a slightly faster SD845 processor and faster Iris scanner (reportedly), but not sure if that's worth the wait.
My opinion: get the Note 8. It already has the extra RAM and the dual lens camera. If you shop around, you can get a used one fairly cheap now, almost as cheap as an S8+. Cheaper in my case, actually.

Get the Note 8. Big boys phone (or girl)
S8/S9 etc are brilliant and all... But they just seem... Oh I don`t know. Boring is the wrong word.
"Samey" is maybe the right word.
There may be marginally higher specced phones round the corner, but when isn`t there?
Get the note. It seems more "grown up". And it will be worth more come upgrade time than a s8+
I am really enjoying mine. And I`m strictly a Moto fan (at least what moto was before Lenumptys bought the brand)

Thanks for the responses guys.... I actually just watched some s9 videos and yeah there's nothing about it that blows the note 8 out of the water. I don't really care about the finger print sensor because I plan on using the iris scanner mostly. Are there any good screen protector that work with the note 8 curves screen though? I want to get a good one on it as soon as I can.

DeMi-GoD said:
Thanks for the responses guys.... I actually just watched some s9 videos and yeah there's nothing about it that blows the note 8 out of the water. I don't really care about the finger print sensor because I plan on using the iris scanner mostly. Are there any good screen protector that work with the note 8 curves screen though? I want to get a good one on it as soon as I can.
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I've been using these film ones from Amazon on 2 Note 8's and a S8 + and we are happy. I'm not a fan of the glass ones because of the dot matrix effect and what not.

I hope the note 9 has 8 GB Ram, if not will wait for Note 10.

DeMi-GoD said:
Thanks for the responses guys.... I actually just watched some s9 videos and yeah there's nothing about it that blows the note 8 out of the water. I don't really care about the finger print sensor because I plan on using the iris scanner mostly. Are there any good screen protector that work with the note 8 curves screen though? I want to get a good one on it as soon as I can.
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For film, I've used Spigen protectors and they were great. For glass, one of the more popular full adhesive screen protectors is Whitestone Dome. Zagg also has a new one that looks promising. Finally, there were a few cheap ones that were absolute garbage for me, lol... Check out the accessories threads for more info.

sefrcoko said:
For film, I've used Spigen protectors and they were great. For glass, one of the more popular full adhesive screen protectors is Whitestone Dome. Zagg also has a new one that looks promising. Finally, there were a few cheap ones that were absolute garbage for me, lol... Check out the accessories threads for more info.
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Whitestone see thread with people dealing with lot of pealing idk bro.

Nick216ohio said:
Whitestone see thread with people dealing with lot of pealing idk bro.
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I have it on mine and it's perfect, but yes I've read about some people having issues...Then again, I've read negatives about every TGSP! Works for me, but buyer should always research of course
Apologies for off-topic.

No doubt Note 8
If you look at my older posts..I had a Galaxy S7 Edge too. It's motherboard got fried on it's own lol. So I had to buy a new phone. I was confused with N8 and S8 too..and in my country the price difference was just around 80-90 dollars so I went with Note8. Also I am using it completely stock. No Screen Protection and only the transparent case that I got inside the box. I have learned one thing about phones in today's world...Whenever you buy a new phone, just unsubscribe from all the tech channels and newsletters as they keep pushing about the latest and greatest phones,which makes you feel that your phone is somehow outdated now. So just buy a phone and forget that newer phones exists.That way your phone will be brand new for more than 5 years.

sefrcoko said:
I have it on mine and it's perfect, but yes I've read about some people having issues...Then again, I've read negatives about every TGSP! Works for me, but buyer should always research of course
Apologies for off-topic.
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Just busting your chops ha. Yeah nothing perfect. I am not loyal to brands. Only stand by whats best for protection. I like tech 21. But to some customer service blows. Screen protector good, but way to many steps to install. Case I love ❤

Gonna order it today. Which color do you guys prefer? I think the gut said black or gray

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Gonna order it today. Which color do you guys prefer? I think the gut said black or gray
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Which brand?

Note 8. My only options are black or the gray.

DeMi-GoD said:
Gonna order it today. Which color do you guys prefer? I think the gut said black or gray
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Black for me but it's a personal preference. If you get a case or something maybe consider that color too so they match. Really up to you though

I bought a exynos duos. It has a premium phone but
- aod drains a lot of battery so I'm pretty angry because it has not sense turn it off to get better sot.
- edge lighting doesn't work too... so bad because if you can't use aod at least edge lighting...
- I really don't know how to get 6 hour or more sot... tried everything (black theme, turn everything off, medium psm, worst resolution, etc).
- the virtual keys burns the pixel of the screen so u have to set auto hide
- Samsung support [email protected]#^ks
- most snote features disabled
Btoh:
- not matter if you use performance mode every day... it uses the same amount of battery life but slightly improve sound and screen visualisation; 2% more of battery usage.
- the phone is a monster: excellent camera, ultra fast...
- spen really nice
If note's problems don't get fixed with Oreo update consider think if really want to buy 1000 dollar smartphone and can't use it main and unique features. Also if you think to use mpsm to get more battery b life it will be like to buy a car and walk to work because use to much gasoline...
Btw... grey is the best colour

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I bought a exynos duos. It has a premium phone but
- aod drains a lot of battery so I'm pretty angry because it has not sense turn it off to get better sot.
- edge lighting doesn't work too... so bad because if you can't use aod at least edge lighting...
- I really don't know how to get 6 hour or more sot... tried everything (black theme, turn everything off, medium psm, worst resolution, etc).
- the virtual keys burns the pixel of the screen so u have to set auto hide
- Samsung support [email protected]#^ks
- most snote features disabled
Btoh:
- not matter if you use performance mode every day... it uses the same amount of battery life but slightly improve sound and screen visualisation; 2% more of battery usage.
- the phone is a monster: excellent camera, ultra fast...
- spen really nice
If note's problems don't get fixed with Oreo update consider think if really want to buy 1000 dollar smartphone and can't use it main and unique features. Also if you think to use mpsm to get more battery b life it will be like to buy a car and walk to work because use to much gasoline...
Btw... grey is the best colour
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I have a duos (950FD) too, but without burn-in issues, and I always get 6-7 hours SOT... Maybe a rogue app draining your battery there. Also, can you explain more about why your edge lighting doesn't work?

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I have a duos (950FD) too, but without burn-in issues, and I always get 6-7 hours SOT... Maybe a rogue app draining your battery there. Also, can you explain more about why your edge lighting doesn't work?
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Edge lighting issue is not just mine... take a look on Google and you will see that is a extended problem throw users. Edge lighting simply don't works on turned off screen or on.
About battery drain... just a few apps installed and I tested with and without aod stuff. Without it 6 hours at max: with it 4 max (6% usage). Also with aod deep sleep has a few % running.

Conito11 said:
Edge lighting issue is not just mine... take a look on Google and you will see that is a extended problem throw users. Edge lighting simply don't works on turned off screen or on.
About battery drain... just a few apps installed and I tested with and without aod stuff. Without it 6 hours at max: with it 4 max (6% usage). Also with aod deep sleep has a few % running.
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My edge lighting works with screen turned off for incoming text messages.
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Limeybastard said:
My edge lighting works with screen turned off for incoming text messages.
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Just with message app... no other one... but the settings allows all apps...

Question 5a vs 6a, is it worth it?

I am debating buying a refurb 5a off amazon, I can get it right now for about $125, vs $299 for the 6a. I'm planning to put LineageOS on it, and was wondering if it is worth it to get the 6a new vs the 5a refurb. For the price, I am seriously leaning towards the 5a, but worry about the battery life on a refurb. My current phone (motorola G power 2021) has great battery life still after 2 years, but is stuck on android 11, and there aren't any real options for aftermarket OS for it, so that is why I am considering the Pixel models. Which would you do?

The 5a still has reports of black screen of death. I haven't experienced that with mine, however, after two years the battery life is down to ~80%. 6a is reportedly a solid performance bump over the 5a.
I think the 6a will offer a longer service life, better performance, and has the "new" pixel design. The only thing I don't like is the front finger print scanner of the 6a.

mikehd1959 said:
The 5a still has reports of black screen of death. I haven't experienced that with mine, however, after two years the battery life is down to ~80%. 6a is reportedly a solid performance bump over the 5a.
I think the 6a will offer a longer service life, better performance, and has the "new" pixel design. The only thing I don't like is the front finger print scanner of the 6a.
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The downside of the 6a is a glass back which means a case is required. I'd like to shoot the engineer who thought a glass back was a good idea. Plastic is so much better, I hate the bulk of a case on my phones.

True about the glass back. I use a case on my 5a as I find it too slippery to handle without, and a bit too thin.

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True about the glass back. I use a case on my 5a as I find it too slippery to handle without, and a bit too thin.
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see I like the thinness of it. I've been running 2 years caseless on my motorola.

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True about the glass back. I use a case on my 5a as I find it too slippery to handle without, and a bit too thin.
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I ran mine without a case most of my 2 years since the "official" case at launch flared out on the power and volume rockers almost immediately. I agree that it is very slippery and would even fall out of my shorts pockets just sitting in my car at times. I have now upgraded to a 7a and been happy with the case on it, but we'll see if it has the same flaring problem of the last official one I got (this time it was at least thrown in without an extra charge on 7a launch).
I really enjoyed my 2 years of 5a daily driver life, case drama aside. Battery life was insane for someone that doesn't have to be on their phone 24/7. There were multiple times I did not feel the want or need to put the phone on the charger because I still had 1d+ remaining when I'd finish my day. If you have a phone with a higher refresh you may notice stuttering at first when readjusting since 60Hz is the only option on the 5a though I think that's what made the battery so ridiculously long lasting. It had a headphone jack too, which I appreciated for when Bluetooth devices ran out of juice.

Do not get a 5a... coming from a current owner of one who had it already once RMA'd for the screen and now it failed again with the motherboard issue.

paulgiro said:
Do not get a 5a... coming from a current owner of one who had it already once RMA'd for the screen and now it failed again with the motherboard issue.
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what? RMA? motherboard issues?

jauhari said:
what? RMA? motherboard issues?
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RMA = Return Merchandise Authorization. Its the process of returning a defective device for a new one. Could just simply be called return and exchange.
And yes, already had the screen issue with this device. RMA'd it with Google store, they replaced the screen, and a year later now the motherboard issue happened. Signs of the motherboard issue are mainly the phone will just randomly crap out when doing a normal task and won't turn on again.

graewulf1 said:
The downside of the 6a is a glass back which means a case is required. I'd like to shoot the engineer who thought a glass back was a good idea. Plastic is so much better, I hate the bulk of a case on my phones.
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6a has plastic back though