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So I was reading about some of the problems with screen separation and had a question.
My device showed up and looked perfect except for a tiny(tiny!) part of screen raised about a hairs width on the left side. Had it about a week now with moderate-heavy usage, and haven't noted more separation, still less than a hairs width.
Now it may be splitting hairs (lol!) but I was wondering if I should attempt an RMA? Will it begin to separate more? Besides this everything is great, no dead pixels etc... and little screen thing doesn't bother me, but I don't want it to get worse and then be stuck with the device outside my window for RMA.
Thanks in advance!
Oh, my, I wouldn't replace it for that. Now, I think you COULD, technically, because yes there's always the chance that it will get worse. But if it does, you can deal with it as a warranty issue then.
If my first unit had only had the small amount of screen separation and not a dead pixel RIGHT in the worse spot, I would have kept it in a heartbeat. The second replacement I received has more separation, and also a screen with a horrible color temp--whites are a dingy yellow, quite ugly. The worst thing is, Google is telling some folks (me included) that we MUST return the original unit rather than deciding to keep it and returning the replacement.
Hell, if they'd let me, I would have kept my original, dead pixel and all, rather than take a chance on getting a third one with other problems (including the yellow tint, which I simply hate on tablets). Instead, I had to process another replacement which will hopefully get here tomorrow and be in good shape. Fingers crossed.
So, in short: if all that's wrong with yours is a tiny amount of screen separation, then for your own sanity I strongly recommend that you keep it and not worry about it. Stick it in a case and you'll forget about it quickly enough.
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So I was reading about some of the problems with screen separation and had a question.
My device showed up and looked perfect except for a tiny(tiny!) part of screen raised about a hairs width on the left side. Had it about a week now with moderate-heavy usage, and haven't noted more separation, still less than a hairs width.
Now it may be splitting hairs (lol!) but I was wondering if I should attempt an RMA? Will it begin to separate more? Besides this everything is great, no dead pixels etc... and little screen thing doesn't bother me, but I don't want it to get worse and then be stuck with the device outside my window for RMA.
Thanks in advance!
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My first one was not significant, but with use it became very pronounced. The first replacement arrived with a fairly pronounced 'hump' on the left side of the screen. I don't think anyone is 100% sure what the cause is, but there are likely two reasons: the screws and the adhesive.
If the separation gets worse with significant use (i.e. heat), then it's probably an adhesion problem. If there's separation, but it appears to not get worse, maybe that's purely due to the screws? I don't know, just guessing.
As yours hasn't become worse with a week's moderate to heavy use, it seems unlikely it might suddenly change. However, if you're like me, the anxiety of not knowing will drive you up the wall.
So far, Google seems contend to keep sending replacements until I'm happy - my third device (AKA second replacement) should arrive this week. However, I don't like asking for replacements, I find it to also induce anxiety, so I'm really hoping the new N7 is going to be perfect.
My 4th and 5th Nexus both have exactly the same separation you describe and I've just put them both in a tight case a bought from amazon and not looked back.
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balorok said:
So I was reading about some of the problems with screen separation and had a question.
My device showed up and looked perfect except for a tiny(tiny!) part of screen raised about a hairs width on the left side. Had it about a week now with moderate-heavy usage, and haven't noted more separation, still less than a hairs width.
Now it may be splitting hairs (lol!) but I was wondering if I should attempt an RMA? Will it begin to separate more? Besides this everything is great, no dead pixels etc... and little screen thing doesn't bother me, but I don't want it to get worse and then be stuck with the device outside my window for RMA.
Thanks in advance!
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Mine came last Friday (7/27) and is exactly like what you describe. I’m not going to do anything about it unless it gets worse.
Valkyrie77 said:
Mine came last Friday (7/27) and is exactly like what you describe. I’m not going to do anything about it unless it gets worse.
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Beware though unless you bought through the play store you may need to deal with Asus for the warranty claim.
balorok said:
So I was reading about some of the problems with screen separation and had a question.
My device showed up and looked perfect except for a tiny(tiny!) part of screen raised about a hairs width on the left side. Had it about a week now with moderate-heavy usage, and haven't noted more separation, still less than a hairs width.
Now it may be splitting hairs (lol!) but I was wondering if I should attempt an RMA? Will it begin to separate more? Besides this everything is great, no dead pixels etc... and little screen thing doesn't bother me, but I don't want it to get worse and then be stuck with the device outside my window for RMA.
Thanks in advance!
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Mine had a very slight raise on the left, I still did the whole "washer" trick which initially improved it, but I'm not sure if it was even worth it.
The other thing to check for is "flicker" - on auto brightness (particularly in a low light situation), open up Maps, and see if you see any slight flickering. I have this issue, but turning off auto brightness and setting it to about 30% seems to alleviate the issue.
Otherwise, my device is working extremely well - I wouldn't want to RMA for these very slight issues because I couldn't guarantee I wouldn't get something worse.
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The other thing to check for is "flicker" - on auto brightness (particularly in a low light situation), open up Maps, and see if you see any slight flickering. I have this issue, but turning off auto brightness and setting it to about 30% seems to alleviate the issue.
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This whole "flicker in Maps" thing fascinates me, because I swear I've had it on every Tegra 3 tablet I've tried (Transformer Prime, Excite 10, Excite 7.7, Nexus 7). The absolute worse was the Transformer Prime, and it wasn't limited to lower brightness levels.
That really leads me to believe that it's something inherent in the Tegra 3.
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This whole "flicker in Maps" thing fascinates me, because I swear I've had it on every Tegra 3 tablet I've tried (Transformer Prime, Excite 10, Excite 7.7, Nexus 7). The absolute worse was the Transformer Prime, and it wasn't limited to lower brightness levels.
That really leads me to believe that it's something inherent in the Tegra 3.
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I've heard this from several people now - although there are others reporting they don't have this issue at all with the N7, which is why plenty of people are sending theirs back for replacements. I would have to see a steady stream of "sent mine back, new one has no flicker issue at all" to consider doing an RMA for the problem. Because for me it just isn't that much of an issue, really.
I just returned a 16gb back to Staples and ordered one from Google Play. The screen was very dark and dingy. Whites were yellowish. The colors looked very washed out compared to my other Android tablets.
I didn't have any separation that I could find though. The silver ring was slightly raised all around the unit and my screen protector fit right inside there to make it flush. I just ordered a new one through Play store, so I'm hoping I don't go from bad to worse.
I think whether your Nexus is flawless or not depends on whether you're noticing the faults. If the faults aren't noticeable to you then that's as good as them not being there but I believe they are still there.
I'm on my 5th Nexus and it has 9 hot pixels. They're tiny, so you wouldn't notice them if you weren't keen-eyed but they're there. Most people probably would not notice them. That's 3 out of 5 so far with pixel problems.
All units I've had so far have had a problem on the left side of the device. Either the back cover doesn't sit quite right in the middle left area, or the screen is lifting. I don't think it's possible to have neither of these issues because of the way the thing is built. Have a real good look down the left side, is the rim slightly warped inwards anywhere? Is the back cover sitting with a tiny gap between it and the rim anywhere? Does the back cover stick out by a hair's width from the rim anywhere? Is the screen lifting ever so slightly anywhere? I bet at least one of these is true. Again, you may not notice minor screen lift or the back cover sitting with a slight gap but the fault is still there. It's just designed badly and if you don't have a screen lift issue, I'm sure you will eventually.
Every unit I've owned has had backlight bleed. Some obvious, some less so.
I think LCD problems such as backlight bleed and hot or dead pixels are widespread. I think the screen lift/left side design problem involves every single unit.
These are just faults that are minor and to be honest, may not bother or even be visible to most users. But they do mean the level of QC is far far lower than most other manufacturers. People make the argument that the Nexus is cheap, so "what do you expect?", but this is beside the point.
I will never buy another Asus product, ever.
Shame you're so unlucky. Honestly, I'm mind-numbingly picky about my gear but my GN7 has none of the faults you list.
The fact is, the overwhelming majority of happy users will not post one single review stating as such. People with problems complain. Only complaints get heard.
Over the years I've had loads of Asus tech; every last thing is/was top notch.
I do hope you have better luck with future purchases
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oona rezo said:
Shame you're so unlucky. Honestly, I'm mind-numbingly picky about my gear but my GN7 has none of the faults you list.
The fact is, the overwhelming majority of happy users will not post one single review stating as such. People with problems complain. Only complaints get heard.
Over the years I've had loads of Asus tech; every last thing is/was top notch.
I do hope you have better luck with future purchases
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Completely happy here as well, no problems.
There seems to be too many people wanting absolute perfection out of a mass produced cheap as chips device, and they do all they can to find the tiniest of flaws.
Dead pixels are obvious, so you would notice them immediately and quite entitled to take it back, however I'm wondering if what the OP is seeing are tiny tiny flaws in the filters which are only visible when viewing a black screen on maximum brightness in the dark. All LCDs will show something like this if you look hard enough. You couldn't use it like this without burning your eyes out so in everyday use, it simply isn't noticable and isn't a flaw, it is just a limitation of the technology. Same goes for back light bleed, all LCD panels have it to some extend, and looking for it in the dark at maximum brightness is sure to find it, but again would you use the tablet at such settings.
News alert: We do not have perfect display technologies yet, they all have flaws or cons, especially if you look for them. I paid £1500 for a 15" LCD panel not that long ago, that had more flaws anyone is complaining about now but had advantages over and above CRT at the time you just accepted them as part of the technology and enjoy the advantages.
I read all the same complaints about my HTC One X and almost didn't buy it, but so glad I did and zero problems. I came in here and read about all the issues with the Nexus 7 and almost didn't buy it, but remembered reading all the doom and gloom and about the One X, so bought it and absolutely love it.
Yes devices will have real faults or problems, and complain and get it exchanged by all means, I would, but around XDA they seem to go further than broken devices into complaints about microns of differences. Who cares about a hairs width if the device is working perfectly! Every forum in XDA is the same.
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My first is good enough for me after numerous stress tests. Sorry for you.
Btw, I'm not that picky about it anyway.
I think that also one of the problems is just human - that we hold these devices rather than set them down - and thus our fingers are always sensing microns of differences as we shift our fingers around. 3/1000ths edge or mating error in my laptop (as I type on my actual lap) is nothing - on my tablet a constant reminder this is a cheap device!
I do think pixels could easily be checked in process, and weighted for defect before shipping. Any in constant view - like center 80% - are unacceptable. Perimeter edge pixels not so much...
It's your bad luck, I'm sorry to say.
I'm on unit 3 which has zero screen-lift, zero dead pixels, zero problematic light bleed (eg no flare that affects visible colour density), zero problems with back cover seating. Which is also my good luck.
I've said before on this forum, there are clearly WAY too many QA issues on these tablets, and I have been advising friends and family to stay clear of them until the issues are sorted, but this does not mean that ALL units are defective - as a read around the various threads here will reveal.
Ive got 2 C80 versions. They are flawless. I also know one at work who is very happy, and he owns apple devices including iCrap!
You can believe whatever you want. Doesn't make you right.....just like I don't believe you have had 5 defective units. That's my prerogative. Doesn't make me right, either.
And nobody really cares what you buy!!!!!
If you can't be happy after 5 units you need to buy something else.I would never keep buying the same thing after the second was not up to par with my expectations.
Anyone having trouble after having the first one replaced is just a glutton for punishment or looking something to whine about. They make ipads every day.:laugh:
I'm now on my fourth Nexus, had two C60 or C70 that had screen lift and stuck pixels along with some backlight bleed. Picked up a C80K which had a small amount of screen lift and really bad backlight bleed along the bottom of the screen, which was really irritating when watching a video in low light. Took that back for another C80K which has a very small screen lift and a faint backlight bleed, I don't know whether I'm just being picky or not but so far I'm OK with this one.
Got one and that had a washed out screen and image retention. Ridiculous how they can have so many devices out there with flaws.
Screen lift on left side as well.Have insurance with whom I bought it at. Waiting for a few months to see if these issues get worked out before I go and exchange it. Not that big of a deal to me, but it is there none the less.
Just fix the damn thing yourself and enjoy it.
My first one was flawless until I killed it screwing with the bootloader. Second one had screen lift that I fixed using washers. The official Asus fix is leaving the screws out. I'm pretty sure I'd rather spend 30seconds doing that myself then deal with your nonsense aggregation.
Yes there is a design flaw with the screen. Most will have this. Going through 9 is retarded. You should just stop your wasting everyone's time (Your and Asus).
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My first one I got had no problems. As for my second one... Oh wait there wasn't a second one I'm still using the first one over a month later
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I agree with the op. I've gone through several. All of which with the same screen lift. However I plan to fix it myself rather than complain about a product. Nothing beats this tablet in its price range and form factor. So I'm just gunna deal with what I got.
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My first one had screen lift, did an RMA to Google, second unit perfect no problems.
I cant speak for people reporting sending 20 plus units back to google and still having issues. But I do believe the people buying from retail locations seeing a screen lift and returning it again and expecting not to see screen lift, when most likely it was being swapped from the same shipment their defective product came in on. Probably should just get the RMA process through google a shot
Well, my C90 seems pretty flawless.. hope I won't find any problems. As far as I tested it, there are none of the known issues.
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Agreed... But the number of folks having issues and having raised them is now sizable. Check the XDA polls, over 700+ folks having reported various defects as documented in multiple threads, some of the defects are unbelievable if one thinks about manufacturing standards or QC, or just the design. I know in terms of percentage it still may be very less folks with issues, but just the type of issues reported is scary enough. I see similar posts in other ASUS forums and the reason I postponed on Prime as well.
I hoped that ASUS/GOOG would at least own up and make a statement that they have manufacturing defects, seeing users of these new tablets trying to fix these issues themselves or just living with it is pathetic imho...
I've got one c70 and one c80. Both are flawless, and I'm a really picky person. I grabbed them from Walmart.
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c80 for me. About 2 weeks old now. Absolutely flawless.
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Hello, I'm new to this site and I wasn't sure where to post this but I believe this counts as a possible accessory so I decided to try it out here. I was looking for another solution to the heating problem in regards to the phone as it still does warm up a bit even after the updates to v20a and came across this:
It's a so-called graphite/graphene "ice pad" that sticks to the area inside the back cover, the only caveat is that if used on the LG Optimus 4X HD, it would cover the nfc antenna which is on the original back cover. Personally, I haven't bought and tried it yet, but am wondering if someone already has. I tried searching for it here on the forums but found nothing in regards to it. So I'm just putting this out here in case someone wants to try it, and possibly review it. I'm going to be ordering one for myself to test it out, but if someone already has tried it, please add a review on this thread.
Unfortunately, I can't post the links due to being restricted as a new user, but they are found on dhgate(dot)com and aliexpress(dot)com under the label "Cell Phone Heat Sink Magical Ice Pad Graphite/Graphene"
EDIT: Accessory has been purchased in this post.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41198265&postcount=14
too good for be truth, did you buy it?
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too good for be truth, did you buy it?
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That's why I am going to get the cheaper one for testing purposes so it won't be a waste of cash. I've also sent an email to Panasonic for a sample of their (PGS) graphite sheet as that's what the ICE PAD reminds me of and that paper-like sheet can disperse heat up to 400 degrees F during testing. Dunno how long they'll (Panasonic USA) reply to me or how long that ICE PAD will get here since I've ordered it with free shipping. In theory and testing, the graphite (PGS) from Panasonic is an ultra-thin, lightweight, graphite film with a thermal conductivity high enough to release and diffuse the heat generated by heat sources such as CPU’s, processors, power amplifiers and cameras. Developed by Panasonic engineers, this synthetically made material was named Pyrolytic Graphite Sheet or PGS. With a thermal conductivity up to four times greater than copper, PGS is extremely pliable and can be applied to heat-source shapes even in high density mounting situations. And according to the slightly broken English on those Asian sites I've mentioned, they've described their product to do exactly what Panasonic's PGS can do and applied it to cooling smartphones.
man how much i hate this heating problem
For anyone wondering about what I'm talking about when I mention the PGS by Panasonic, you can search on youtube or add this /watch?v=ZAEhyY1_czM for a look at how the PGS sheet disperses heat during testing.
did you find any online store to buy it? because i only find the products on chinese web site and i don't trust them
It would probably be possible to cut a small rectangle out of it so that the NFC contact points still work.
AlderCass said:
It would probably be possible to cut a small rectangle out of it so that the NFC contact points still work.
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if it is truly a graphene sheet, it's possible, but if it's not, then don't
Has anyone tried this magical stuff?
This stuff sounds amazing.
Wouldn't it make sense to have it directly on the CPU instead of sticking it to the back plastic?
Then maybe that way it shouldn't affect the NFC?
I would love to try this!
GizModio said:
This stuff sounds amazing.
Wouldn't it make sense to have it directly on the CPU instead of sticking it to the back plastic?
Then maybe that way it shouldn't affect the NFC?
I would love to try this!
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but then you would have to cut away the plastic to fit the sheet in
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but then you would have to cut away the plastic to fit the sheet in
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There is video in youtube about the Graphite sheet and that even cutting it won't affect it. Search for Panasonic Pyrolitic Graphite Sheets - Another Geek Moment by digikey.
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but then you would have to cut away the plastic to fit the sheet in
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Who said anything about cutting? There's only 10 screws holding the back cover on!
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I was watching LG Optimus 4x HD dissasembling on youtube. I noticed that the CPU is on the other side of PCB turned to screen. I don't konw were you can attach this sink. If you attach it to the top of CPU the most of heat will go to screen and this will cause bubbles under screen. On the other side of CPU is SIM PCB. Maybe you can attach it between main pcb and sim pcb.
I think you must watch the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGD64_g-ssE
OK, I just got the graphite/graphene "ice pad" yesterday and have started testing it by adding it as it supposed to be via enclosed instruction (the butchered English grammar notwithstanding). So far, close to within 24 hrs of current testing, I've seen some "slight" improvement. The phone - so far - within the span of an hour or more of solid gaming with all the cores on (software updates included) - doesn't get aggravatingly hot enough to the point where it feels as if it will blister your skin unlike before where I almost believe it will blow up. Yeah, I know it may sound like an exaggeration, but it DID get that hot prior to everything that I feared it will melt the sd card/sim card along with the plastic back cover when I first got the phone. And yes, I have already updated my phone to v20a with the obligatory root and tweaks... however, on stock ROM from LG ONLY. Currently, it does get warm but not overly "toasty" as it did out of the box. The battery still drains like a rock during super heavy use, but that is expected of quad core devices, especially on stock battery with EVERYTHING on (wifi/data/etc). I wish I had a thermal camera to really see the difference but it does "seem" to be able to dissipate heat faster. Alas, I am a noob when it comes to custom ROMs and have only rooted my unit with as-is stock v20a updated from LG so I cannot tell if there is a definite difference with people using the thing with custom ROMs. Will keep testing for the next few weeks.
And yeah, I did cut out a small portion of it to let the back cover still have access to the antenna.
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OK, I just got the graphite/graphene "ice pad" yesterday and have started testing it by adding it as it supposed to be via enclosed instruction (the butchered English grammar notwithstanding). So far, close to within 24 hrs of current testing, I've seen some "slight" improvement. The phone - so far - within the span of an hour or more of solid gaming with all the cores on (software updates included) - doesn't get aggravatingly hot enough to the point where it feels as if it will blister your skin unlike before where I almost believe it will blow up. Yeah, I know it may sound like an exaggeration, but it DID get that hot prior to everything that I feared it will melt the sd card/sim card along with the plastic back cover when I first got the phone. And yes, I have already updated my phone to v20a with the obligatory root and tweaks... however, on stock ROM from LG ONLY. Currently, it does get warm but not overly "toasty" as it did out of the box. The battery still drains like a rock during super heavy use, but that is expected of quad core devices, especially on stock battery with EVERYTHING on (wifi/data/etc). I wish I had a thermal camera to really see the difference but it does "seem" to be able to dissipate heat faster. Alas, I am a noob when it comes to custom ROMs and have only rooted my unit with as-is stock v20a updated from LG so I cannot tell if there is a definite difference with people using the thing with custom ROMs. Will keep testing for the next few weeks.
And yeah, I did cut out a small portion of it to let the back cover still have access to the antenna.
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Does NFC work as before?
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Does NFC work as before?
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It does. if you can check on the pic I included, I made sure the contacts on the back cover had clear access to the contacts on the phone by cutting out a small piece of the pad .
The only update I have at the moment after almost a month of testing is that the heat rarely rises to "ouch" levels now. A long phone conversation only becomes warm now to my ear, and I did this by calling one of the worst customer service call centers I knew of with a VERY long hold time. Yes, the one where they BOUNCE you through a TON of lines before you get to the right department.
Sadly, however, I still can't test this via thermal imaging camera as I don't know anyone personally who owns one to really validate the rest of my tests. All I know so far is that it does help with the heat to a small degree with all the added extra precautions included in taking care of your phone. I've roughly played a two-hour game on it without the feeling of it cooking my hand. I've switched between wifi/data, etc and had the screen on from 60% brightness and up - the thing still automatically stops the brightness control when the unit gets too warm - including leaving it lit for the same amount of time straight as when I was playing a game. In fact, I did both at the same time and separate to see the difference. Only once did it go up to 100 degrees fahrenheit and slightly above that on max brightness using a flashlight app while looking at the internal indicator on as reference before I lost my nerve and let it cool off. It cooled off faster though when it was with the pad than without.
In the end, I would like to say that does kinda work, but don't take my word for it. Everyone in here has different setups for their own units so I hope this thread will get some more people interested in testing it out. For less than ten dollars US (I got mine for five with free shipping), I can say that it's an acceptable risk to test the pad out.
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In the end, I would like to say that does kinda work, but don't take my word for it. Everyone in here has different setups for their own units so I hope this thread will get some more people interested in testing it out. For less than ten dollars US (I got mine for five with free shipping), I can say that it's an acceptable risk to test the pad out.
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Where did you find it?
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Where did you find it?
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LOL the site still won't let me post links until I get more seniority. You can search for it under "Graphite/graphene heat sink for cell phone". I came out with sites like dhgate(dot)com and aliexpress(dot)com... I got mine from gadget-buy(dot)com for about less than 5 dollars US, it used to come with free shipping but I guess a lot of people want it because when I went back to the site, I saw a shipping price already added to it. You can probably keep on searching until you can find a cheaper one.
Ok thx. I've had bad experiences with these sites and found them on there indeed. I was kind of hoping you found it at ebay somewhere, but I couldn't find it over there.
Another question. Does the back cover still close easily?
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Ok thx. I've had bad experiences with these sites and found them on there indeed. I was kind of hoping you found it at ebay somewhere, but I couldn't find it over there.
Another question. Does the back cover still close easily?
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It closes perfectly, no problems whatsoever. Just make sure you make a space/hole if the place you're going to put it on has an antenna connection. This should work on most phones. Actually, I think they sell also on ebay, but it's rare I guess. I did a recent search on ebay, and nothing came up either. It took me a while to look up those pads so I believe you have to be patient while you trawl through the net for a reliable site. I certainly took my own time to decide on whether I should get it or not, but when I got to a site that sold it for less than $5, then took the plunge on getting it. Only time will tell if it is an investment well spent or not, and the price is negligible enough to not put me in the hole.
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
Screens pls, btw i found 1 long time ago in eBay, Google buy then back for mich money
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illitero said:
I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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i use these over screen protectors. the are big enough to fit phone screens and do a nice job with glare from light while keeping the display to color. they scuff up (like all do) but the......gel? like texture will smooth back out instead of removing the visibility. there are 2 draw backs....they add a soft prism texture due to the quality on the glue involved as well as soft dots from the high quality adherence. the more it warms the softer the dots appear. all said and done, i have put this laminate on cracked screens with a fair solution. no shelling out for the lcd as well as not risking a lcd for a $25 dollar piece of glass
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I definitely appreciate the suggestion, but I'm specifically looking for input on where I can get replacement screens. I don't mind cracks in screens personally (swappa boneyard represeeeeent! lolol), but with my last N6 screen cracking from compromised glass up top, I'm paranoid of any use doing the same to the prototype display. I want to either use it or sell it, and as long as the glass is broken I can't really do either :crying:
Finding a prototype display is going to be virtually impossible due to ridiculously limited quantities, and replacing it with a production model version - if that's even doable - would kill any value the prototype might still have. If you're looking to use it, you're probably going to have to fish for a production screen and hope Motorola didn't make any changes between the prototype and production model.
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Slightly OT, but if you have a prototype model, I wonder if it also has the internal connector for the fingerprint reader. That would be interesting to find out.
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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I'm asking myself exactly the same thing..
Then, do it have it or not ??
If the touchscreen isn't broken, you can change the gorilla glass only, by yourself. It must be standart size. (using heatgun and being tricky)
If it is, you can go to Shenzen in China, or maybe try to adapt the connector (they might have taken the same components but in a small different way, connector lenght/position)
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
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I just purchased one of these off Swappa for 60 bucks. I got too excited, I couldn't control myself, haha. The glass is cracked, and I'm contemplating trying to remedy that depending on potential usability. I remember sometime late last year that there were a whole bunch of displays for the prototype with the "Not for resale; property of Motorola" sold off on eBay; they're long gone by now since people bought them up thinking they'd work on the standard Nexus. But they discovered the display connectors are in slightly different places than their production unit; meaning they're not interchangeable and couldn't be used. If I can't find one of these displays, I'm expecting that I could just remove the glass and replace it with a standard one, but I'm HORRIFIED of potentially damaging the display itself since they're so fragile. It's horrifying because if it's damanged, that's it. It won't accept a production panel.
So I guess what I'm wanting to know is if anybody happens to know where I can get a hold of a replacement display for this phone at a decent price. As mentioned, the display works fine, but the glass is cracked. I'm not expecting to be able to use it since these phones seem to be finicky, so I'm not interested in dumping any huge amount of money into it; I'm just exploring my options on restoring it. If I can happen to use it for personal use, that'd be great; but i'm not holding my breath haha.
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Have you seen any more of these around?
I'd be interested in a Prototype Nexus 6 in any shape.
Heck, if you're interested in selling yours, I'd be interested (just PM me if).
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You're better give the device to a repair technician with good skills. I'm a technician and the process to separate the glass from displays is not diy . It's really hard to be done correctly, and with an oled screen is even harder
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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Didn't say it will be easy
I don't know him, he may be more minutious than you, idk. Just giving a possibility, he will judge if he's able to do it himself..
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I replied you and him only to tell that it's really hard , only to let you know and to let him know before he tries to order the glass,try to separate that from display and make it worse . Oled displays goes completely black if broken ,instead of LCD that stay alive .
I know procuring one is next to impossible. The reason I asked is because I had seen a large batch of them sold on eBay sometime last year. So people expecting them to work for their regular Nexus phones (they don't; ribbons are slightly different) bought them and ended up not being able to use them. A shot in the dark for sure, haha. Otherwise I have replacement production glass, LOCA, and a plate and wire to do the job properly, it's just as all stated in the original post: failure is an absolute game over. A screen with cracked glass is much more functional than a dead screen with good glass, you know?
Hey!
Got a Note 9 last week and day after receiving it i noticed when holding the note 9 and pressing on screen in certain areas (near sides/corners/centre) it would make a popping noise, sounds like adhesive behind the screen not adhering properly or something like that. I got Samsung to replace with a brand new one and same thing with this one, it happens whether phone is on or off, it's definitely not rite as you can hear it very clearly, feels like some flex going on in screen when it happens as i can feel the screen kind of dip slightly when it makes the noise, but ok when it does not make the noise.
Curious to see if anyone else have had the same issue? gutted as loved it for the short while i had it but sending second one back now for refund as worried something will happen with screen further down the road and Samsung may not cover it. I know of at least 3 others who had this issue when buying same time as me.
Cheers.
Do you have a tempered glass installed?
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Do you have a tempered glass installed?
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sorry should have said, no tempered glass or any screen protector applied.
have no problem with that.
only have that popping sound when using tempered glass before. changed to plastic screen protector and no sound anymore
ah ok thanks for replying, must have just been very unlucky. Cheers.
MatTechGuy said:
Hey!
Got a Note 9 last week and day after receiving it i noticed when holding the note 9 and pressing on screen in certain areas (near sides/corners/centre) it would make a popping noise, sounds like adhesive behind the screen not adhering properly or something like that. I got Samsung to replace with a brand new one and same thing with this one, it happens whether phone is on or off, it's definitely not rite as you can hear it very clearly, feels like some flex going on in screen when it happens as i can feel the screen kind of dip slightly when it makes the noise, but ok when it does not make the noise.
Curious to see if anyone else have had the same issue? gutted as loved it for the short while i had it but sending second one back now for refund as worried something will happen with screen further down the road and Samsung may not cover it. I know of at least 3 others who had this issue when buying same time as me.
Cheers.
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Hey thanks for sharing that. This is the first link I got searching for this, I have it happen to mine note 9 too. It's such a bummer since I had it for only three days and will have to setup a new one from scratch if they have to replace it.
are you sure the s-pen isnt vibrating when you tap it on that side? remove the s-pen and tap it. i bet it goes away
Wow. No issues like that. I've had three Note 9s and all three have been perfect. I'd definitely return for a replacement. Weak or loose glue could seriously affect the water resistance, since it depends on a water tight seal between the screen and the frame. I'd never recommend using your phone in water anyway, but I at least like the assurance that if my phone takes an accidental dip. There's a good chance it will survive.
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Hey thanks for sharing that. This is the first link I got searching for this, I have it happen to mine note 9 too. It's such a bummer since I had it for only three days and will have to setup a new one from scratch if they have to replace it.
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Yep real shame, my replacement was the same to, it's on way back, getting a refund, not worth risking something going wrong with the screen later down the road, i mean manufacturers do anything to not accept responsibility specially when it comes to screens. First one started on second day, it was great for the first day, replacement was doing it from the moment i took it out of packaging and holding it, it was worse than the first one.
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are you sure the s-pen isnt vibrating when you tap it on that side? remove the s-pen and tap it. i bet it goes away
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It happened to me when turned off with no s-pen in, no screen protector, no case.
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Wow. No issues like that. I've had three Note 9s and all three have been perfect. I'd definitely return for a replacement. Weak or loose glue could seriously affect the water resistance, since it depends on a water tight seal between the screen and the frame. I'd never recommend using your phone in water anyway, but I at least like the assurance that if my phone takes an accidental dip. There's a good chance it will survive.
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agreed.
After studying the noise a bit more, it is definitely an issue with the glue. It will not happen all the time I press the screen, but it happens more often when the phone is a bit warm to the touch (e.g. charging the battery). Also, it appears to be along the side where the battery resides - I wouldn't worry about the battery itself, it just makes sense that the glue will get loose where it heats up more often (in my case, I don't stress the phone all that often for the other side where the SoC is to play a role). Anyways I'll be returning it tomorrow once the shops here in Berlin open 'cause now it's christmas break.
One extra thing that might be interesting, the back-side also has some sort of a glass-separation issue, at least it looks like that. Notice the circular smudge around and right of the DUOS label - I tried cleaning it but it comes back, I think the glass is separated at that point too, but just a tiny bit. I've had the phone for four days and haven't dropped/hit/scratched it AFAIK.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aeUcpLDau2Ypz6Go9
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Yep real shame, my replacement was the same to, it's on way back, getting a refund, not worth risking something going wrong with the screen later down the road, i mean manufacturers do anything to not accept responsibility specially when it comes to screens. First one started on second day, it was great for the first day, replacement was doing it from the moment i took it out of packaging and holding it, it was worse than the first one.
It happened to me when turned off with no s-pen in, no screen protector, no case.
agreed.
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I'm hoping to get a better one after a refund, mind sharing if you happen to live in Germany as well? I'm wondering if it's a bad batch or something.
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After studying the noise a bit more, it is definitely an issue with the glue. It will not happen all the time I press the screen, but it happens more often when the phone is a bit warm to the touch (e.g. charging the battery). Also, it appears to be along the side where the battery resides - I wouldn't worry about the battery itself, it just makes sense that the glue will get loose where it heats up more often (in my case, I don't stress the phone all that often for the other side where the SoC is to play a role). Anyways I'll be returning it tomorrow once the shops here in Berlin open 'cause now it's christmas break.
One extra thing that might be interesting, the back-side also has some sort of a glass-separation issue, at least it looks like that. Notice the circular smudge around and right of the DUOS label - I tried cleaning it but it comes back, I think the glass is separated at that point too, but just a tiny bit. I've had the phone for four days and haven't dropped/hit/scratched it AFAIK.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aeUcpLDau2Ypz6Go9
I'm hoping to get a better one after a refund, mind sharing if you happen to live in Germany as well? I'm wondering if it's a bad batch or something.
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i agree with you, seems to be adhesive/glue issue, it did not happen all the time for me either but as you mention it, i noticed it more after recharging (when phone gets warm) so think you nailed the issue on the head to be honest.
I noticed it around the sides (edges) and the centre of screen, second one was even worse much more noticeable and was happening straight away after taking it out of box.
Something i noticed but never mentioned as wasn't sure but second one was the same, maybe it's normal but don't think it is, on the curved corners of the screen it appeared to me the screen looked slightly lifted not flush with the frame but only on corners.
I live in the UK btw. I was thinking a bad batch but seeing Samsung had a good deal on with cashback and discount i imagine they sold allot between the time i arranged to send mine back to getting the replacement which was a week so i imagine they would have been separate batches although i could be wrong.
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i agree with you, seems to be adhesive/glue issue, it did not happen all the time for me either but as you mention it, i noticed it more after recharging (when phone gets warm) so think you nailed the issue on the head to be honest.
I noticed it around the sides (edges) and the centre of screen, second one was even worse much more noticeable and was happening straight away after taking it out of box.
Something i noticed but never mentioned as wasn't sure but second one was the same, maybe it's normal but don't think it is, on the curved corners of the screen it appeared to me the screen looked slightly lifted not flush with the frame but only on corners.
I live in the UK btw. I was thinking a bad batch but seeing Samsung had a good deal on with cashback and discount i imagine they sold allot between the time i arranged to send mine back to getting the replacement which was a week so i imagine they would have been separate batches although i could be wrong.
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Cool, thanks for the info. It's too dark in the winter days so it's hard to say if the glass is a bit off on the corners, but nevertheless, I will write back when I (hopefully) get a replacement one.
One last thing - you did speak directly with Samsung support? Did you buy it from their store or you just didn't want to bother with the store you bought it from?
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Cool, thanks for the info. It's too dark in the winter days so it's hard to say if the glass is a bit off on the corners, but nevertheless, I will write back when I (hopefully) get a replacement one.
One last thing - you did speak directly with Samsung support? Did you buy it from their store or you just didn't want to bother with the store you bought it from?
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I bought it directly from the Samsung online uk store. There was a discount direct from Samsung for students/people who work in certain industries so it could be bought for £699 (£200 off), but also they were offering £150 cashback bringing total down to £549, plus cashback by going via a cashback website meant i would have had it for around £504, also they were doing trade in so people could get even more off up to another £150.00 bring cost down to £399, then people got the samsung game deal thingy, don't play games myself but people can get a Fornite theme by downloading Fornite playing 3 games then you get the free theme, kids going bonkers for the theme, people selling the theme upto £100. So people could have the phone at a bargain price.
So I got a replacement, and just as you said, the display had the same popping sound out of the box. It happens like once a day, but since there is really no substitute for this device right now (stylus + good DAC, besides all the other great features), I'll keep using it and if it gets worse contact Samsung down the line for warranty/replacement. Decided to leave this as information if some other person happens to have the same problem in the future.
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So I got a replacement, and just as you said, the display had the same popping sound out of the box. It happens like once a day, but since there is really no substitute for this device right now (stylus + good DAC, besides all the other great features), I'll keep using it and if it gets worse contact Samsung down the line for warranty/replacement. Decided to leave this as information if some other person happens to have the same problem in the future.
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feel for you, such a shame and disappointing to happen a second time, it's a great phone, i did not want to risk it so sent second one back too. Fingers crossed you won't have any issues. Mine was happening regularly so like you say just keep an eye on it.
I don't have that issue even with the tampered glass on my phone.
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i actually noticed it a few times.. like last night it was doimg it. sort of right above where the keyboard is in portrait mode..
it seems to happen when its really cold outside for me.. its not enough for me to have it replaced thankfuly
I can replicate this when I clean my screen with a microfibre cloth. It happens on pretty much all of the screen. I believe I can also see some light streaks in the screen when this happens. The popping sound happens regardless of the temperature of the phone. Will have to inspect it more to see if I can spot any other issues with the screen. I got mine in the UK just over a week ago. Apart from that I think the phone has been great so far. Not sure whether to replace it.
glad i sent mine back now to be honest, personally i would send back, as you say everything else is great apart from the screen popping sound. The worry for me is the screen might cause issues further down the road, screens are the biggest issue with mobile phones and manufacturers are quick to blame user and deny warranty.
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i actually noticed it a few times.. like last night it was doimg it. sort of right above where the keyboard is in portrait mode..
it seems to happen when its really cold outside for me.. its not enough for me to have it replaced thankfuly
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My Unlocked US Note 9 does it too. Mine mainly does it on the right side near the middle. It's not enough for me to warrant sending it back; it still works fine and I don't see any screen issues when pressing on the screen. Also I bought mine used so I'm guessing the screen was replaced. If it gets worse, I guess I'll fix it then.