Default Samsung messages app is hijacking my incoming text messages - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

I noticed today that I had a total of 12 messages that were in the Samsung messages app that never arrived to my default app (google messages). Also noticed when I'm doing verification text from PayPal and cash app they arrive in the Samsung messages app instead of my default app. Has anyone else seen this before?
I had a total of 12 messages from customers that never arrived to my default Google messages.

No I haven't. I use Google Messages and get all my texts. SMS permissions are on in Messages's app settings aren't they?

All permissions are turned on, it only happens with certain senders and paypal / cash app. I tested with my wife's s8 on same thing happens with PayPal.

I couldn't use my 3rd party SMS app at all. When I chose it as the new default, I got an OS level warning that it was unsupported and I might not get SMS as a result. Sure enough, it didn't work at all so I had to revert to the (terrible) Samsung app. Pretty crappy lock-in, especially if you have a database of old SMS from a 3rd party app you wanted to restore.

Haven't seen that before. I'm using Google Messages with RCS activated

mikemmva said:
I noticed today that I had a total of 12 messages that were in the Samsung messages app that never arrived to my default app (google messages). Also noticed when I'm doing verification text from PayPal and cash app they arrive in the Samsung messages app instead of my default app. Has anyone else seen this before?
I had a total of 12 messages from customers that never arrived to my default Google messages.
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I wonder what would happen if you used something like CCSWE and disabled Samsung Messaging.

So is this a real thing? I want to pick up an s10 today but don’t want that crap happening

Hundreds or thousands of people have seen this thread, nobody has tossed out a "me too"... I think you're safe.

Having an issue as well with Android Messenger, it refuses to send from Sim 2 but can receive messages. For some reason the Samsung Messenger no matter how much you shut off refuses to release itself. I despise Samsung Messenger , in fact I despise all the Samsung apps.

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[Q] Missing messages in group messages?

So I just got my Moto X and its pretty awesome. My previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and I really liked iMessage but I figured that now since Android supports group sms I would take the plunge. However, after doing my first group message today I was only able to see 1 of my contact's text messages while everyone elses messages just never reached me (I guess in text message limbo).
All of the people I messaged were iPhone users (5 and 5s). Is this just a blip or just a common problem that I will have to deal with for the next 2 yrs (which I dont really want to deal with, all of my friends are iPhone users)? Could it possibly be a ATT problem, I tried texting my phone from one of my friends and immediately it went to iMessage instead of SMS but it eventually changed to text and I got it.
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
conquerstrife said:
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
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If you like the stock app check out 8sms. Works very well and supports group messaging.
I have found that group messaging on android is pretty lack luster. I've installed Google hangouts as my default sms app and just deal with the issues. Hopefully, it will get better over time. They have a ton of issues to work through though. Good luck.
I do group messaging all the time in the hangouts app. Works no problem for me at all. I do them as "group MMS" messages. Try switching your SMS app to hangouts and see if it's any better.
Oh and before you switched from the iPhone did you unregister your phone number with iMessage? If not, that might be why they're not coming through. The apple database thinks you're still on iMessage and they're getting lost in limbo. See this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/28/switching-from-iphone-to-android-switch-off-imessage/

Google Messenger Question

Does Google Messenger save SMS messages to the cloud? So say you get a new phone, will your messages appear on your new phone when you log in? My guess is no, but want to check.
The reason I ask this is because recently, my wife's LG G4 bricked and she lost her text messages that were in her default messenger app. Some of those messages were from people who have passed away which made her extremely sad. I've been using Hangouts and haven't had that issue, however with how this is all changing, I'd like to make sure it's all covered.
If this is not the case, is there another app which does? Or do we just need to set up some sort of SMS backup utility?
I'm not to sure on the Google messenger, but every time I changed I use the app SMS Backup and Restore. Works perfectly.

Thoughts on Message+ vs Samsung Messaging vs anything else?

I remember trying Message+ awhile ago and not liking it. Was thinking of giving it another try with this phone. Thoughts?
I use chomp. Lots of nice features.
I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
I never tried messages+ but it has kind of a low rating and bad reviews on the Playstore. I use Textra, it's my favorite now but there are many to choose from.
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I liked Message+ for the most part with previous phones, but it got to be a battery hog for no apparent reason, slowed down my phone, etc. I've stayed away from it since. I'm not minding the Samsung Messaging app so far. I'm usually a Textra user, because it's so light. But I like the stock app for now.
quangtran1 said:
I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
JeffATL said:
With Message+ though, if you receive a msg, and you left your pc on at home, msg gets delivered and pops up on pc, it doesnt show as unread and I missed msgs that way, at least when I tried it awhile ago
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Incoming messages should send alerts to all of your connected devices. I get notified at my primary phone, my remote devices, and my Huawei watch. If I acknowledge the notification on one device, it syncs across other devices. It's been that way for me for a while.
I use MySMS in conjunction with Rambox. It's awesome as it allows you to reply to text messages at work without using your phone.
Used to be huge fan of GoSMS Pro but too many stinking ads......I use paid version of Textra and love it.
I recently switched to Pulse and it is definitely my favorite SMS app so far. Native black theming and lots of different settings and options. It has the ability to use any device to text, but it's a monthly payment. Has the ability to do lifetime for 10$ though. I might do that here soon.
I like Message+ because of all the customization you can do. It is more than the stock Samsung or android messager. Also, Verizon keeps your texts so that if you reset your phone or switch phones you can download all your messages back.:good:
quangtran1 said:
I practically live on Message+ because I can receive and reply from my s8, iPhone 7+, iPad pro, and SurfaceBook. I've used Textra, Chomp, Messenger, tried all of them, but have always gone back to Message+.
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I agree 100%. Message + shows on all my devices & has tons of customization options. No need to use anything a
else.
One feature I'd like to have is send delay. Auto-correction can play havoc sometimes. It'd be useful if I have 3, 5 seconds to edit my text.
anyone else having problems sending MMS through Message+
Message + for me too. I normally use Textra myself but am liking the features of Message +.
Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
Message + on galaxy s8... Has anyone experienced old messages being delivered to new recipients? I have noticed that I have about 3 copies of every message in a conversation. It also appears as if pictures were being sent to random groups of people. Which I'm sure some of you can imagine could be potentially embarrassing.
JeffATL said:
Message + is getting annoying. I am trying to like it. I hate how it highlights certain words which make them difficult to edit. I realize it is to show emoticons but still.
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Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
quangtran1 said:
Couldn't you turn that off in Settings - Enable Smart Emojis?
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Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
JeffATL said:
Yes. Thanks. I am currently trying out Textra.
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I like Textra a lot. Heck, I like them all, Chomp, Handcent, GoSMS, even Messenger. However, as I carry 4 phones and 3 tablets, plus desktops/laptops, I have to use one that can sync across multiple devices.

Android Messages RCS not working

Hello,
Has anyone swapped to the Google Messages/Android Messages app over the stock Samsung messages app on the S10/S10+ and been able to get RCS working?
I came from a Pixel 3 XL and enjoy the Android Messages app over the Samsung app even with the OneUI overhaul, but I cannot get RCS/Chat working - it is not even visible in advanced settings. If I swap to the Samsung app it sends RCS messages no problem, swap back to Android messages it goes back to SMS/MMS only. I also installed Google Carrier services thinking maybe it needed that to trigger it but nothing, looks like the Carrier services app also does not get triggered to actually provision anything even with it installed.
Would love to hear if anyone has this working
Same issue here. I prefer Android messages since I get a lot of verification codes texted to me and Android messages has a quick copy code option. On TMobile. Rcs works fine on Samsung message app.
MellowMax said:
Hello,
Has anyone swapped to the Google Messages/Android Messages app over the stock Samsung messages app on the S10/S10+ and been able to get RCS working?
I came from a Pixel 3 XL and enjoy the Android Messages app over the Samsung app even with the OneUI overhaul, but I cannot get RCS/Chat working - it is not even visible in advanced settings. If I swap to the Samsung app it sends RCS messages no problem, swap back to Android messages it goes back to SMS/MMS only. I also installed Google Carrier services thinking maybe it needed that to trigger it but nothing, looks like the Carrier services app also does not get triggered to actually provision anything even with it installed.
Would love to hear if anyone has this working
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I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
Charkatak said:
I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
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I have uninstalled and reinstalled Google Messages a few times, still does not resolve, even installed Google Carrier Services to attempt to fix. Really odd if you cant use a different message client with the same tech.
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Right now its only supported on the stock Samsung messaging app.
Charkatak said:
I am using T-Mobile and I have not yet had RCS support(waiting for it), but I want to ask, how did you install Google Messages app on your new Samsung phone? Did you transfer your info including apps using Samsung Switch app? If yes, some apps may not have transferred correctly, so I would uninstall them, then reinstall or just try clearing data of that app.
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"Messages" is a public app that Google has on the Play Store (just search for 'Messages' and make sure you get the one from Google LLC), and anyone with an Android phone can download it. It's a drop-in SMS/MMS replacement for OEM (or carrier) apps for SMS/MMS.... it also supports RCS, but not on every phone.
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dansan382 said:
Right now its only supported on the stock Samsung messaging app.
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And it looks like it may stay that way for a while: For RCS to be shared between apps, the way SMS/MMS are, Google needs to build an API so that different apps could access the same data. It LOOKED like htye were going to do that, but then 9to5Google and others reported that the code was hidden and commented out in the Android Q preview, with comments suggesting that it wouldn't be available till Android R. Lord knows why it's taking Google this many hears to get down basic functionality on something as important as messaging... they've been pushing their RCS Universal Profile since 2016, so it seems ridiculous that it'll be 2020 (for Android R) before they release an API baked into Android for it.
Textra is still my favorite SMS app. I wish Messages and Samsung Messages would implement their quick reply features
It works for me sending messages to my parents who are on Sprint with me using the Google Messages app. I'm pretty sure they are using the default Samsung messages app but I'm not sure if that makes a difference.
Not exactly the same but worth a mention...Verzion S10- has Real Time Text (RTT) working..you enable this from the stock phone dialer screen, three dots at the top right for Settings > Real Time Text. You can set it to always on and you'll get the additional option to send an RTT type message call whenever you click a contact.

Messages App tried to send these SMS messages that I never knew about

I went to the Google Messages app and found that last Friday it was trying to send these texts to these 5 numbers. Obviously, this is some kind of spam, but I couldn't find anything similar online.
I also checked which apps have SMS permission and only the following apps do:
- Galaxy Buds+
- Google
- Google Play Store
- Messages
- Phone
- Truecaller
Luckily the texts weren't sent because I am not based in the US and I don't have international texts supported in my plan.
Did anyone ever come across something like this? Should I be worried?
I hope that's not your phone number you just posted for everyone to see

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