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HTC 10 vs OnePlus 3t

My phone's battery is running out from 100 to 0 in 10 minutes or so and I need to be next to a charger 100% of the time...
I really need a new phone and thought about the OnePlus 3t and HTC 10... (Both are about the same price in Israel)
I need a phone with an awesome battery life and camera, good display, performance and build quality... Do you have any suggestions? And if not any of these phones, which phone do you recommend?

Any one?

Well, my opinion is very biased, since I chose the OP3T. But I was a loyal HTC fan, and this is my first smartphone that isn't an HTC (after owning 5 different HTC phones).
The main discriminators for me were price (OP3T is $439 US versus $599 for the HTC10) and the fact that the 10 felt like "last generation" to me. It's true that the OP3T is really only a half a year/generation newer. But the 10 really did feel like last years model to me, with the U and U Ultra coming soon.
My last phone is the HTC M9, going on 3 years old now. So for me, the OP3T is a big upgrade. It's blazing fast, takes really nice photos, and the AMOLED screen is beautiful. Now the downsides are the screen resolution (probably only an issue if you want to do VR), lowlight photos (although I've been doing fine, and I take a lot of pics of my kids) and no SD card slot (for now, the 64 GB version is fine - or you can go for the 128 GB version).
The battery life on the OP3T has also been impressive. Plus, with the included Dash charger, it charges really fast.
The 10 is a nice phone as well. I think all you really gain (versus the OP3T) is more audio/music centric features, and an SD slot. Although the OP3T speakers still sound pretty good, even with a single bottom firing speaker.

redpoint73 said:
Well, my opinion is very biased, since I chose the OP3T. But I was a loyal HTC fan, and this is my first smartphone that isn't an HTC (after owning 5 different HTC phones).
The main discriminators for me were price (OP3T is $439 US versus $599 for the HTC10) and the fact that the 10 felt like "last generation" to me. It's true that the OP3T is really only a half a year/generation newer. But the 10 really did feel like last years model to me, with the U and U Ultra coming soon.
My last phone is the HTC M9, going on 3 years old now. So for me, the OP3T is a big upgrade. It's blazing fast, takes really nice photos, and the AMOLED screen is beautiful. Now the downsides are the screen resolution (probably only an issue if you want to do VR), lowlight photos (although I've been doing fine, and I take a lot of pics of my kids) and no SD card slot (for now, the 64 GB version is fine - or you can go for the 128 GB version).
The battery life on the OP3T has also been impressive. Plus, with the included Dash charger, it charges really fast.
The 10 is a nice phone as well. I think all you really gain (versus the OP3T) is more audio/music centric features, and an SD slot. Although the OP3T speakers still sound pretty good, even with a single bottom firing speaker.
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And if both of them were the same price (the 32 GB costs like the 3t 64...).. which one would you buy? (Knowing that HTC in your country is way more known and repairable) I'm in a real big dilema

Honestly, get the HTC 10. It recently became available here in Germany for the same price as the 3T and if I'd haven't bought the 3T a month ago, I'd have chosen the HTC.

derdjango said:
Honestly, get the HTC 10. It recently became available here in Germany for the same price as the 3T and if I'd haven't bought the 3T a month ago, I'd have chosen the HTC.
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Why though?

[email protected]+ said:
Why though?
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Better camera, more accessories, better support, easier to get repaired, just a reliable daily driver.
Also, just get one of them. Not much sense making a dilemma out of these first world problems.

derdjango said:
Better camera, more accessories, better support, easier to get repaired, just a reliable daily driver.
Also, just get one of them. Not much sense making a dilemma out of these first world problems.
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I bought the 3t 128GB and I feel stupid... I can sell it for like 100$ more than I can buy HTC 10 32GB

[email protected]+ said:
I bought the 3t 128GB and I feel stupid... I can sell it for like 100$ more than I can buy HTC 10 32GB
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So get some more and redo the cycle so you're HTC 10 is free. Magic!

derdjango said:
So get some more and redo the cycle so you're HTC 10 is free. Magic!
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Yeah? You think I really should?

[email protected]+ said:
Yeah? You think I really should?
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Honestly, learn to make up your own mind. You feel stupid because you could save $100 on the HTC 10, so get it.

derdjango said:
Honestly, learn to make up your own mind. You feel stupid because you could save $100 on the HTC 10, so get it.
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But I don't know if the OnePlus 3T worth the 100$ or not... It's quadraple the capacity...

[email protected]+ said:
But I don't know if the OnePlus 3T worth the 100$ or not... It's quadraple the capacity...
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I never understood why people keep asking what phone should they buy. Most people just buy their phones only to be seen by other people what a great phone they have. Personally, I buy the phone that I like the looks of it and which fits my needs. And that`s how I got my OP 3T. Before buying it, I`ve seen some reviews which 90% were pretty good for me. The things I wanted most were amazing performance, battery that gets me through 1 day, fast charging, a stock android with a lot customize options. OP 3T has all of them. Have to mention that I had the chance to buy S7 Edge and HTC 10 at around 400 euros. But again, 3T had all the things I need, so I went for it.
Its sad to buy things just to have the best one from the market. Its not like you buy a Buggati Veiron, just to have the fastest car in your city. Same goes for the phones. Just buy whatever you like most and whatever fits your daily needs. If you want performance, go for OP3T, S7,S7 edge, htc 10, Moto Z and so on. If you want photography, go for Moto Z and buy yourself the camera mods, and so on. its very simple

smilirulz said:
I never understood why people keep asking what phone should they buy. Most people just buy their phones only to be seen by other people what a great phone they have. Personally, I buy the phone that I like the looks of it and which fits my needs. And that`s how I got my OP 3T. Before buying it, I`ve seen some reviews which 90% were pretty good for me. The things I wanted most were amazing performance, battery that gets me through 1 day, fast charging, a stock android with a lot customize options. OP 3T has all of them. Have to mention that I had the chance to buy S7 Edge and HTC 10 at around 400 euros. But again, 3T had all the things I need, so I went for it.
Its sad to buy things just to have the best one from the market. Its not like you buy a Buggati Veiron, just to have the fastest car in your city. Same goes for the phones. Just buy whatever you like most and whatever fits your daily needs. If you want performance, go for OP3T, S7,S7 edge, htc 10, Moto Z and so on. If you want photography, go for Moto Z and buy yourself the camera mods, and so on. its very simple
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I really not looking for best in market...
I just think that the 10 is better for me and I don't know if I'm right
I need a very (very) good camera
A very good battery
A good performance
A decent screen (at least 400 PPI)
And decent build quality
What phone do you think will be the best for me?
(It will be nice to have OLED display, usb-c, 4+- ram, and SD slot if less than 64 GB)

depends what you want I've gone from a Mi5 128GB to a OP3T and not sure if I regret it or not, the size is a pain for me, yes it's great for media, but daily use on the move the smaller size of the Mi5 was awesome.
Both great phones, but for different reasons.

[email protected]+ said:
And if both of them were the same price (the 32 GB costs like the 3t 64...).. which one would you buy? (Knowing that HTC in your country is way more known and repairable) I'm in a real big dilema
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Well, they aren't the same price for me. And I'm not a big fan of making that judgment, based on a hypothetical situation that doesn't exist for me.
They are both very solid phones, and there is no reason to feel "stupid" in any case. Everyone has different preferences and opinions on what constitutes the "best" for them. So at the end of the day, the only "right" or "wrong" decision lies with you, not what others think.
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DaveP2611 said:
depends what you want I've gone from a Mi5 128GB to a OP3T and not sure if I regret it or not, the size is a pain for me, yes it's great for media, but daily use on the move the smaller size of the Mi5 was awesome.
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I had some reservations about moving to a larger screen/phone myself. But honestly, now that I have the OP3T, I'm really liking having a bit larger screen. Not just for video, but for web browsing, and other things. As long as it fits in my pocket, who cares if its a bit bigger? I seriously think I've have trouble going back to a smaller screen at this point.

returned my 3t...

Ok so after I got my op3t I had horrible battery drain issues, after that my vibration got very loud buzzy and wierd... And I couldn't handle with the phone like that... So I returned it and got my money back...
Now I need a new phone... And I consider if to wait till mid + 2017 until I decide what phone to get or just buy an HTC 10 (or v20 but everyone say that it has stuttering problems)
now... what do you suggest? Should I get the HTC 10? wait? Or get a new 3t...?
(I'm not considering the S7 because no USB-C)
I need a very very good battery and camera
A very good performance
A nice vibrant screen and good build quality...
What phone do you suggest?
Or.. what do you suggest I'll do?
(Meanwhile I have a broken HTC M8)
Thank you!!!

3t if you want newer tech, Dev and better quality.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
3t if you want newer tech, Dev and better quality.
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HTC 10, V20 and S7 are the same price as him in Israel... You sure?

Unlocked pixel, or another 3T or wait for the S8

If I were you, I will try my luck to get another brand new 3T since you already said that the S7 were not an option anymore.
The lousy vibration might be the hardware or manufacturing defect, however as for the battery drain, for sure, I'm not experienced it. Currently, my 3T running on the latest OOS 4.1.0 with latest ElementalX kernel and the battery life is just fine for me.

[email protected]+ said:
HTC 10, V20 and S7 are the same price as him in Israel... You sure?
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HTC is junk, plus its old and dev will likely drop or slow to crawl within a year, V20 may run into dev issue, S7 never gets update so you might get dev here and there but dont expect anything quick. This is coming from someone who own S7 edge...I dont have a 3t I just lurk in here.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
HTC is junk, plus its old and dev will likely drop or slow to crawl within a year, V20 may run into dev issue, S7 never gets update so you might get dev here and there but dont expect anything quick. This is coming from someone who own S7 edge...I dont have a 3t I just lurk in here.
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old? Snapdragon 820 and 4gb ram is an old phone? junk? dont get me worng the build quality is better than 3T. Support drops? I dont know but HTC M9 updated to Nougat few months ago and where is oneplus 2 now?

keaheng said:
old? Snapdragon 820 and 4gb ram is an old phone? junk? dont get me worng the build quality is better than 3T. Support drops? I dont know but HTC M9 updated to Nougat few months ago and where is oneplus 2 now?
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Thank you smart accepting not ignorant man. So you think I should go with the 10? I love you.

sakumaxp said:
Unlocked pixel, or another 3T or wait for the S8
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Pixel here cost quadraple the 3t price...
And the S8 didn't come out yet.. do you suggest that I'll wait ? But it will anyway cost more than 600$...
motherninja said:
If I were you, I will try my luck to get another brand new 3T since you already said that the S7 were not an option anymore.
The lousy vibration might be the hardware or manufacturing defect, however as for the battery drain, for sure, I'm not experienced it. Currently, my 3T running on the latest OOS 4.1.0 with latest ElementalX kernel and the battery life is just fine for me.
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If not 3t... What do you think I should buy?

[email protected]+ said:
Thank you smart accepting not ignorant man. So you think I should go with the 10? I love you.
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man I suggest you to go for another 3T or HTC 10. I own both phones And I love them so much. HTC 10 will not give you the best of everything but the overall experience is perfect. and balance. the build, the screen, the feel in hand, the speakers, the camera and the nougat is so stable I can say its stable than most smartphones these day (oh wait pixel is the number 1 in term of software). you can head up to htc 10 forum and there is no complain thread. I can afford any phone but I still cant find the perfect 10/10 phone this year. I would say no even someone offered me S7 or v20 or ultra U for free.
Both phones I rate 8/10. good luck

keaheng said:
man I suggest you to go for another 3T or HTC 10. I own both phones And I love them so much. HTC 10 will not give you the best of everything but the overall experience is perfect. and balance. the build, the screen, the feel in hand, the speakers, the camera and the nougat is so stable I can say its stable than most smartphones these day (oh wait pixel is the number 1 in term of software). you can head up to htc 10 forum and there is no complain thread. I can afford any phone but I still cant find the perfect 10/10 phone this year. I would say no even someone offered me S7 or v20 or ultra U for free.
Both phones I rate 8/10. good luck
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A.thank you so much!
B. What phone do you suggest more if I want
Camera - 9+
Battery - 8+
Display - 7.5+
Performance - 7+
Build quality - 6+
C. So you think I should stay with my M8 for another 3 month and then decide what phone to get?

[email protected]+ said:
A.thank you so much!
B. What phone do you suggest more if I want
Camera - 9+
Battery - 8+
Display - 7.5+
Performance - 7+
Build quality - 6+
C. So you think I should stay with my M8 for another 3 month and then decide what phone to get?
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I dont know based on your rate its samsung s7 edge. I dont think you should wait. you buy a phone when you feel to. you wait for another 3months to buy a new phone then you will have to wait for another 3-5 months waiting for the price drop and in the next few months there will always new phones come again. you will keep waiting forever.

keaheng said:
man I suggest you to go for another 3T or HTC 10. I own both phones And I love them so much. HTC 10 will not give you the best of everything but the overall experience is perfect. and balance. the build, the screen, the feel in hand, the speakers, the camera and the nougat is so stable I can say its stable than most smartphones these day (oh wait pixel is the number 1 in term of software). you can head up to htc 10 forum and there is no complain thread. I can afford any phone but I still cant find the perfect 10/10 phone this year. I would say no even someone offered me S7 or v20 or ultra U for free.
Both phones I rate 8/10. good luck
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A. Thank you!!!
B. Who do you think has
Better camera?
Better battery?
Better display?
Better performance?
Better build quality?
(In this order...)
C. Do you think I should wait with my M8 for another 3 month before deciding?

I still have my M8. Going from M8 to HTC 10 is not a day and night different but its an upgrade tho because M8 still runs good in any day.
What I dont like on 3T is the amoled yellowiest screen and the camera. the rest im very satisfied if oneplus fix those in op5, sure 2017 is the year.

keaheng said:
I dont know based on your rate its samsung s7 edge. I dont think you should wait. you buy a phone when you feel to. you wait for another 3months to buy a new phone then you will have to wait for another 3-5 months waiting for the price drop and in the next few months there will always new phones come again. you will keep waiting forever.
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But it doesn't have a USC-C !!! I think it's a deal breaker because I already bought a lot of USB-C accessories... So... It's an issue... What do you think?

keaheng said:
I still have my M8. Going from M8 to HTC 10 is not a day and night different but its an upgrade tho because M8 still runs good in any day.
What I dont like on 3T is the amoled yellowiest screen and the camera. the rest im very satisfied if oneplus fix those in op5, sure 2017 is the year.
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The plus 3 screen is beautiful and white. The whites are the whitest whites I have ever seen on a smartphone. What are you talking about? Maybe the one you saw had night mode on... The camera is actually pretty good and the 60fps video is amazing!
But sure... The 10 really does seem better and the camera rated only one point less than the pixel

G6?

If budget isn't a challenge, you can consider adding Huawei Mate 9 and Mate 9 Pro to the list of options.

rezapatel said:
If budget isn't a challenge, you can consider adding Huawei Mate 9 and Mate 9 Pro to the list of options.
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Why?

rezapatel said:
If budget isn't a challenge, you can consider adding Huawei Mate 9 and Mate 9 Pro to the list of options.
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And it is kind of a challenge

Are you planning to upgrade ?

So the OP5 is coming soon, we have few leaks about it but are you thinking about an upgrade ? Or you will keep this beast for one/two more years ?

I just got mine yesturday so i plan on keeping it till at least the 6 comes out.

I'll upgrade if the specs are good. 2k screen with a good camera and easily unlockable with good dev support. If not I'll get a new different phone either the international Note 8 version with unlocked bootloader or the new Pixel.

Just saw the news said they drop support for the op2. Hope OnePlus won't drop the software update support on op3t. Otherwise I will use 3t until op6 comes out.

Nah, I´m really happy with the change from a Nexus 6P to the 3T. The only downside is the camera at night and to be honest with myself I don´t use the camera enough to justify an upgrade. I love the 1080 screen, 6gb ram (especially at the beta, app management is the best on any android phone I´ve experienced). And regarding android upgrades, as long as i get security patches I´m happy. Google seems to f#ck things up more and more along the road..

I didn't buy 3T to upgrade it just after the next gen comes. Like seriously, the purpose of all those specs like 6GB of RAM is to last long and endure technological evolution process as well.
BTW I had an opportunity to get my hands onto S8 recently and even for free I wouldn't swap these devices even though 3T is from the previous generation of flagships (which apparently means nothing in this case).

I have the 3T since January. No reasons to upgrade. I'll keep it for 2 years, I hope.

not yet, unless the OP5 is groundbreaking

Maybe

Oh I'm upgrading but def not to the OP5. Probably gonna grab an S8+ pretty soon and then the Note 8 when it comes out. I only buy OPs if I need a new phone and there's nothing out that interests me. They are great interim phones, for sure.

If it'll be under 500€ i'll buy it

Im going to go with a solid maybe. Normally i dont buy phones for cameras. Never have never will. but im very interested in this things camera, those picture samples leaked are SOOOOOOO damn good looking. Normally id reach for my nikon but holy moly the detail. You know youve got a good camera if you can see the scales on a strawberry. The 835 sounds amazing 6gb ram is super useful and if that new leak is true with the 30 minute full charge on dash, thats a buy right there just for the charging feature. My lord-y thats just smartphone bliss right there. Forget battery banks imagine what you can get in a 5 minute charge. Theyll change the tag line to a whole days power in a 10th of an hour.

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Im going to go with a solid maybe. Normally i dont buy phones for cameras. Never have never will. but im very interested in this things camera, those picture samples leaked are SOOOOOOO damn good looking. Normally id reach for my nikon but holy moly the detail. You know youve got a good camera if you can see the scales on a strawberry. The 835 sounds amazing 6gb ram is super useful and if that new leak is true with the 30 minute full charge on dash, thats a buy right there just for the charging feature. My lord-y thats just smartphone bliss right there. Forget battery banks imagine what you can get in a 5 minute charge. Theyll change the tag line to a whole days power in a 10th of an hour.
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But if the camera is the only *major* upgrade, while you still consider buying it or you will just keep the 3T ?

Its a low chance that is the only major upgrade. They will definitely be using the 835 or hopefully even thr 850 if its delayed enough.

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Its a low chance that is the only major upgrade. They will definitely be using the 835 or hopefully even thr 850 if its delayed enough.
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They've already confirmed it will use snapdragon 835. That's about a 10% performance increase over snapdragon 821.

I do belive that the 5 is a good idea. Im sure they way they use the 835 it will be more than 10%

I've owned alot of phones in my time, but the OP3t is hands down my favorite. The OP5 is gonna have to bring a lot more then just a camera upgrade for me to drop 500 bucks on it.

If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.

kolembo said:
If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.
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Im on an s7 edge but im with you on the price. Less than 500 and im ordering day one.

kolembo said:
If the price is between $400 & $450, I'll buy immediately. If it's qHd I'll buy immediately, below $600. If the materials are new (ceramic) I'll buy immediately.
If not, I'm going to wait and see what the Note looks like. Or the Mate.
I love this phone and only got it in March or something.
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If you just got it in March no need to upgrade in my opinion,your phone is still new

Upgrade to MI5

I am using REDMI NOTE 3 PRO.
I really want to know your opinion guys if the upgrade is worth it.
Are AOSP roms battery like MIUI and stable? because i will not use MIUI on it if i buy it.
How are the other things like performance battery and camera compared to a REDMI NOTE 3 PRO?

If i were to upgrade, i would try to get a mi6 even if i had to wait a month to save more money. Mi5 is an excellent phone but yeah there's my opinion
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SilverMarcs said:
If i were to upgrade, i would try to get a mi6 even if i had to wait a month to save more money. Mi5 is an excellent phone but yeah there's my opinion
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I want 3,5jack and don't want miui so mi6 is not an option

RootNightmareX said:
I want 3,5jack and don't want miui so mi6 is not an option
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One plus 3/t? Amazing phones
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One plus 3/t? Amazing phones
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Out of budget

Worth.., sometimes i arguing i don't need higher cpu when i used android devices as long as it has great comunity (AOSP).. and i totally wrong, snapdragon820(morethanenough),UFS2.0 hell yea its blazing fast, great camera even when you flashed non MIUI roms.

All are better except battery life
For note 3 it is supreme for mi 5 its only average

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Worth.., sometimes i arguing i don't need higher cpu when i used android devices as long as it has great comunity (AOSP).. and i totally wrong, snapdragon820(morethanenough),UFS2.0 hell yea its blazing fast, great camera even when you flashed non MIUI roms.
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All are better except battery life
For note 3 it is supreme for mi 5 its only average
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How is mi5 battery compared to Oneplus3 and 2nd question are extra 50$ worth for an OP3?

RootNightmareX said:
How is mi5 battery compared to Oneplus3 and 2nd question are extra 50$ worth for an OP3?
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Yes they are. Get a one plus 3
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Just wondering what xiaomi devices have the biggest dev base ? Is the mi5 one of them?

Guys do you think its worth it to trade xiaomi mi5 32gb for xiaomi a1?
You think its an upgrade?

A1's biggest selling points are dual cameras and stable stock ROM. Now, mi5 even 32 gb should be faster than a1, but on the other hand, a1 offers expandable storage and more ram. Personally, after 2 years of using redmi note 3 (first mediatek then pro 32/3 gb) i have gotten a but sick of the large screen (it's good and all but I have bought a tablet so I don't watch youtube on my phone any more) and I really missed the physical samsung-style button. I personally would not upgrade since I have the 64 gb mi5 variant, but you decide for yourself. I have a feeling the smaller screen will suit me during the following year (and a half perhaps). Also, mi5's custom roms are well developed by now and should be fully stable (sorry didn't try them yet, i'm waiting for the tempered glass and case to arrive), mixed with the nova launcher prime you can get full pixel experience just like with a1. We even have the port of the google's hdr+ camera app which should in theory compare to the stock miui camera.
In conclusion, I personally wouldn't upgrade, but if storage and better cameras are what you prefer over slight performance bump, and you fancy bigger screens, then absolutely go for it, especially if you don't have to pay for the switch.

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A1's biggest selling points are dual cameras and stable stock ROM. Now, mi5 even 32 gb should be faster than a1, but on the other hand, a1 offers expandable storage and more ram. Personally, after 2 years of using redmi note 3 (first mediatek then pro 32/3 gb) i have gotten a but sick of the large screen (it's good and all but I have bought a tablet so I don't watch youtube on my phone any more) and I really missed the physical samsung-style button. I personally would not upgrade since I have the 64 gb mi5 variant, but you decide for yourself. I have a feeling the smaller screen will suit me during the following year (and a half perhaps). Also, mi5's custom roms are well developed by now and should be fully stable (sorry didn't try them yet, i'm waiting for the tempered glass and case to arrive), mixed with the nova launcher prime you can get full pixel experience just like with a1. We even have the port of the google's hdr+ camera app which should in theory compare to the stock miui camera.
In conclusion, I personally wouldn't upgrade, but if storage and better cameras are what you prefer over slight performance bump, and you fancy bigger screens, then absolutely go for it, especially if you don't have to pay for the switch.
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My mains are in this order: battery, performance, xda support.
So which one should i go for MI5 or A1 ? (for A1 i must pay another 30-40$)

Idk about battery, a1 has bigger screen but slower soc, so i really cant tell which would have better battery life, my guess is around the same. Performance is on the mi5's side, xda support should be around the same too but a1 doesn't really need custom roms

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Idk about battery, a1 has bigger screen but slower soc, so i really cant tell which would have better battery life, my guess is around the same. Performance is on the mi5's side, xda support should be around the same too but a1 doesn't really need custom roms
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Isnt dual camera on cheap phones just a gimmick? Saw a lot of.comparsions on mi5 vs 5x/a1 and mi5 looked better..

RootNightmareX said:
Isnt dual camera on cheap phones just a gimmick? Saw a lot of.comparsions on mi5 vs 5x/a1 and mi5 looked better..
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Haha I really don't know then, see comparisons and decide for yourself. Now that you mentioned it, it very well may be a gimmick. Paying additional 30-40$ in my opinion isn't worth it. You seem like you aren't too happy with the mi5, what's the deal breaker?

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Haha I really don't know then, see comparisons and decide for yourself. Now that you mentioned it, it very well may be a gimmick. Paying additional 30-40$ in my opinion isn't worth it. You seem like you aren't too happy with the mi5, what's the deal breaker?
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I am thinking that A1 will come with stock android so it will have better xda support, thats why i think about switching, besides this mi5 is gold

So I started the reasons not to buy 7 pro thread

And now I took the plunge and ordered the 12gb nebula blue version lol
I'm bracing myself for rma hell, touch sensitive, ghost touch, camera, stuttering,battery, heating and overall quality control issues. Hope it's a worthy replacement to my 512gb midnight black note 9 which has been flawless. Looking forward to giving my final verdict.

I guess you got ?. BTW... There is already topic about this.

Yeh this phone is complete ****, that's why I love it!

insomnia77 said:
Looking forward to giving my final verdict.
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Looking forward to not reading it.

Why would replace your flawless phone that's not even one 1 year old?

Debopam.exe said:
Why would replace your flawless phone that's not even one 1 year old?
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Only reason is for no notch and larger display. I upgrade when new notes or galaxy phones come out with larger displays then previous but since note 10 has a notch oneplus only other option. If the 7 pro is good I don't see a need to upgrade for a long time because the display cant get any bigger now. So I hope it doesn't disappoint since I've been happy with Samsung.

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Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.

you have to like the OnePlus 7 Pro for its bootloader unlock potential
Bootloader unlock and unobstructed screen are the best two points of the OnePlus 7 Pro, IMHO. If you live in the US, buying Samsung flagships is frustrating due to bootloader locked Snapdragon variants. If you focus on the positive benefits of the OnePlus 7 Pro, you'll be satisfied.

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Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.
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Me neither. Also will appreciate a more critical review, just not yours. You gave a long lists of reasons in your previous thread to not buy it without ever having held the device. So why should your review carry any weight?

Samsung S2,S6,S7e,S8+ user and this was the only device that swooned me away from Samsung. You're gonna love it. (With some minor withdrawals if you enjoyed some of the Samsung add-ons)
Also, don't approach the purchase with negativity, but with anticipation.

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Thats fair. But I'm not a oneplus fanboy and I'm sure some other people might appreciate a more critical review.
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Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.

Bracing for stuttering ?? And your coming from a note 9. That's priceless ??

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Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.
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Well that sounds encouraging. I did notice less complaints over at the oneplus support forums and I'm looking forward to getting it, now that it's getting more polished.

insomnia77 said:
And now I took the plunge and ordered the 12gb nebula blue version lol
I'm bracing myself for rma hell, touch sensitive, ghost touch, camera, stuttering,battery, heating and overall quality control issues. Hope it's a worthy replacement to my 512gb midnight black note 9 which has been flawless. Looking forward to giving my final verdict.
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My phone is flawless.. This is what happens when you listen to all the problems that only a certain few are having.

Eric214 said:
Most of the critical reviews were on the release and 9.5.3 FW's. Since the 9.57 the issues people compalined about are gone. No ghost touches (I never had them) and the camera is right there with the Pixel phones now and should actually get a little better still with future updates. The IP rating (most useless thing to cry about) and the Wireless charging (isn't needed, somethign to just cry about) are 2 "features" that aren't needed. I don't have womens hands so it's not that much bigger then some of the other phones out there and the weight is about the same as the Note's and the IPhone Max's weight.
IF those reviewers did a second review after the 9.5.7 update most are completely on board now and don't have anything to complain about.
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My phone is flawless.. This is what happens when you listen to all the problems that only a certain few are having.
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The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone. I'm wondering how much loyal people will be if they keep increasing the price with each successor. I had the first oneplus phone on release. For the price it was ahead of their time. They should of fixed all the bugs before releasing this one because people's expectations are higher now especially since they loose their value fast.

I just bought my oneplus 6T a few months ago for 550. Last month I upgraded to my OnePlus 7 pro for 669 with 8 gigs of Ram and 256 Gb of UFS 3.0 memory. I paid about 150 more. So in what world is that double the price. And OnePlus 7 buyers are actually paying LESS. Coming from a Samsung user OnePlus is one hell of a bargain.
insomnia77 said:
The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone. I'm wondering how much loyal people will be if they keep increasing the price with each successor. I had the first oneplus phone on release. For the price it was ahead of their time. They should of fixed all the bugs before releasing this one because people's expectations are higher now especially since they loose their value fast.
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insomnia77 said:
The thing is they almost doubled the price for this phone.
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For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?

B3311 said:
For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?
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The prices of these phones will keep going up as long as the big mfrs (SEC/AAPL) keep raising theirs. I got a 1TB S10+ ceramic for $1279 and that was $$$ but the original price of $1599? And don't even get me started on folding phones. Had one preordered because, well you know, I'm a sucker for it I guess. But times are changing and it seems like innovation is slowing down. I mean, come on, how much more do they expect (a phone) to do?!

B3311 said:
For Pete's sake - that is NONSENSE. A ridiculous statement, patently untrue and can be confirmed by anyone in seconds. How old are you anyway?
You have zero credibility. None. Are you trolling?
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https://www.oneplus.com/ca_en/7pro#/
you tell me if im trolling. 1300 tax in canadian for a oneplus 7 pro 12gb. you guys in the u.s, have it better. phones used to be alot cheaper not that long ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjADegQIDBAD&usg=AOvVaw38QpgMMMqp4s_AUQawqk7W
The OnePlus One was officially unveiled on*23 April 2014*for a limited release on 25 April: described as a "flagship killer", its prices were set at US$299 and US$349 for the 16 GB and 64 GB models respectively—which one critic estimated was roughly half the price of the then recently unveiled Samsung Galaxy S5.-

insomnia77 said:
https://www.oneplus.com/ca_en/7pro#/
you tell me if im trolling. 1300 tax in canadian for a oneplus 7 pro 12gb. you guys in the u.s, have it better. phones used to be alot cheaper not that long ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjADegQIDBAD&usg=AOvVaw38QpgMMMqp4s_AUQawqk7W
The OnePlus One was officially unveiled on*23 April 2014*for a limited release on 25 April: described as a "flagship killer", its prices were set at US$299 and US$349 for the 16 GB and 64 GB models respectively—which one critic estimated was roughly half the price of the then recently unveiled Samsung Galaxy S5.-
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You do know that OnePlus One was released with an open source CyanogenMod (No software team expense) and with everything mediocre apart from the processor??
And OP1 is what OP7 is right now, not OP7Pro.
And I don't know if OP7 is launched in Canada, but where I live, it's currently almost half the price of S10 as on amazon (US$890 for S10 8G 128GB, US$475 for OP7 6G 128GB).