Which fire tablet should I choose for my mom... - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which fire tablet should I choose for my mom? Currently she uses an old version of the 7 tablet running a cyanogenmod or lineage and she doesn't want a big device like the fire 10. I rooted it before, installed the rom and gave it to her as a gift 2 or 3 years ago. Now I'm searching a device which is currently new AND rootable. And for sure I would prefer a device, which got an existing rooting guide here on xda, a good maintained alternative rom and an active community.
On Amazon germany are currently available:
Fire 8 HD, 8. gen
Fire 7, 9. gen
Fire 7, probably 8. gen
Specifications of the newer 7 and the 8 HD are better (especially for the 8 HD), but:
Are they all rootable? Is it possible without linux for one of them (because unfortunately I never used linux...)?
Which got the biggest community here?
It would be great if you could help me! Thanks in advance for your interest and reading till here!

MartinMo said:
Which fire tablet should I choose for my mom? Currently she uses an old version of the 7 tablet running a cyanogenmod or lineage and she doesn't want a big device like the fire 10. I rooted it before, installed the rom and gave it to her as a gift 2 or 3 years ago. Now I'm searching a device which is currently new AND rootable. And for sure I would prefer a device, which got an existing rooting guide here on xda, a good maintained alternative rom and an active community.
On Amazon germany are currently available:
Fire 8 HD, 8. gen
Fire 7, 9. gen
Fire 7, probably 8. gen
Specifications of the newer 7 and the 8 HD are better (especially for the 8 HD), but:
Are they all rootable? Is it possible without linux for one of them (because unfortunately I never used linux...)?
Which got the biggest community here?
It would be great if you could help me! Thanks in advance for your interest and reading till here!
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Since you are confining alternatives to Amazon gizmos I'd go with the 8th gen HD 8. That said, you mum would probably be just as happy with a ready-out-of-the-box Onn 8" running Android 9 which will be a huge upgrade at a similar price point. Yes, is is rootable although one has to ask why. Just to be clear, it's for mum, right?

DB126 said:
Yes, is is rootable although one has to ask why. Just to be clear, it's for mum, right?
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Thank you, DB126. I'd like to backup all of the data and reinstall these backups on the new tablet. The last time I did that, I used titanium backup, hence the need to root it... I'll take a look on your recommendation.

DB126 said:
That said, you mum would probably be just as happy with a ready-out-of-the-box Onn 8" running Android 9
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It seems to have only about 5 h of battery life, about half of the time of the fire 8... And my mom is already complaining about often charging the old fire 7 tablet...

MartinMo said:
It seems to have only about 5 h of battery life, about half of the time of the fire 8... And my mom is already complaining about often charging the old fire 7 tablet...
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The Onn 8 has a 3500 mAH battery vs 4750 mAH in the Amazon HD 8. All else being equal the HD 8 will go 25-40% longer between charges. But all else isn't equal. Kernels and ROMs yield different efficiencies as do app portfolios. Panel brightness is usually the biggest draw on portable devices which is one reason SOT is such a meaningless measure. Battery build quality also plays a role in longevity; in that regard Amazon scores pretty well. All that said, 5h is in the ball park for an Onn 8 based on personal experience with both devices.

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Nexus 10 rumors have begun, are you going to buy the 7 now or wait for a "10"?

Nexus 10 rumors have begun, are you going to buy the 7 now or wait for a "10"?
This article mentions Google may have a 10 inch tablet in the works.
So what will you do now? Will you order that 7, or hold out for a "10"?
I usually wait 30-90 days after a device is released to buy anyway. So I'm waiting for the moment to see if maybe I'll like the 10 if it comes.
Update: 10/9//2012: Looks like Google will partner with Samsung on a high-end 10" Nexus tablet, with pixel depth higher than the 3rd generation iPad.
Personally, I already got myself a Transformer Infinity (TF700T), really like it.
Update 10/12/2012: Coming first half of 2013.
Update 10/25/2012: Nexus 10 manual appears.
Nexus 10 official announcement likely to come October 29.
Update 10/26/2012: This is Google’s Nexus 10 by Samsung With Android 4.2
Update 11/2/2012: For the few who live under a rock and didn't know: http://google.com/nexus/10/
I'm still getting the 7" version. This is my first Android device and I'm not yet willing to shell out as much as for ipads. The 10" tablet probably costs as much as an ipad 2. Plus, ipads are already too heavy and clunky for me.
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This article mentions Google may have a 10 inch tablet in the works.
So what will you do now? Will you order that 7, or hold out for a "10"?
I usually wait 30-90 days after a device is released to buy anyway. So I'm waiting for the moment to see if maybe I'll like the 10 if it comes.
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Damn, sir. You sure got some patience.
My life for Aiur
10 is too big and inconvenient for portability. 7 is perfect :thumbup:
Long live the One X
I wanted this since I wanted a 7 inch. So i won't really care if a 10 inch comes out. It's the 7inch form factor that attracted me.
I'm thinking they want to go after "The new iPad", which should have been named the "iPad 3". It has multiple versions at multiple prices.
From the iPad price page for reference.
Wi-Fi
• $499.00 16GB
• $599.00 32GB
• $699.00 64GB
Wi-Fi + Cellular
• $629.00 16GB
• $729.00 32GB
• $829.00 64GB
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If Google makes a Nexus 10 with price points and versions like that. I'll probably just get a 16GB Wi-Fi only. I'm hoping a Nexus 10 has a lot of other nice added features as well. If they make a Nexus 10 that is simply the same inside as the Nexus 7, I'd just get a Nexus 7 and be done with it.
I guess I'll own both eventually then.
Both sizes suit me for different purposes.
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I prefer 10 inch over 7 inch.
10 inch tablet with Wi-Fi ,16GB storage and rear camera for 350$-400$, will be a great deal.
still don't understand the want for a rear camera...especially on a 10" tab
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got556 said:
still don't understand the want for a rear camera...especially on a 10" tab
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Real estate agents LOVE that kind of thing. And plenty of other people in various professions where they need a handy quality camera and already use a tablet device.
got556 said:
still don't understand the want for a rear camera...especially on a 10" tab
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It is great for Augmented Reality applications development.
I found the ipad too big to be properly portable, so I'll be sticking with the 7.
I prefer 7" for all kind of usage even out door......for a 10" i prefer to use my macbook 13".
Wonder if the glass from Nexus 7 is 10in including the bezel, that would make more sense.
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7 inch is perfect for me, had a transformer and never used it cause taking it anywhere was a pain.
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A much as I want the 10 inch rumour to be true. I don't think Google will do it as they would really screw their partners over in a big way.
The 7 inch market other than the Tab2 is no-name Chinese tablets who Google don't care about. Samsung has more on-board capabilities in their 7in Tablets hence no MHL or micro-sd slot in the Nexus as not to piss off Samsung.
However the 10 inch market is more mainstream if they come in at cost again, are ASUS going to sell as many Transformers for 50% to 100% more or Samsung sell as many TABs. No way, so thats why I think the Nexus 10 is a pipe dream or it will be as crippled as the 7 (still ordered though)
I have an iPad 2 (which will be my last Apple device at least until the lawsuits stop) so I have a ten inch tablet already. I really preferred reading on my Nook Tablet, which I made the mistake of selling for a Galaxy Tab 8.9 (decent tablet but too long/wide). I think that for me 7" really is the sweet spot for reading, and everything else is just a bonus. I am hoping that it satisfies by tablet needs so I can ebay my iPad and start saving for the next Nexus phone.
I made an impulse purchase of the 7" the day it was available.
Would probably regret it if a 10" came out in the near future. Until then though ...
I've been wanting a good, fast 7 inch tab for a while. Nexus branding gives me pure google experience and the weight and size is perfect for reading books on the go (I have a very big ebook library, most of which are advanced math and physics books). I've never been interested in 10 inch tabs.
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jabsys said:
I found the ipad too big to be properly portable, so I'll be sticking with the 7.
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I completely agree. I think this 7" will suit my needs perfectly. I have no desire for another 10" tablet right now.

Fire HD or galaxy tab 2?

I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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Its a big "it depends"
If you're a prime member, that's a huge + for the kfhd
Its much easier to have a normal android experience on the tab2, but the specs are a lot lower. If you're willing to deal with rooting to get play on the KFHD and dodging amazons updates that break root the KFHD is better device. Or if you don't care about the full android experience and just want to consume media, the KFHD is great. I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you.
Tab2 wouldn't be my first choice unless you got one of those crazy black friday deals on it for a 10" tablet in that price range though. I'd be more likely to compare the tf300t. Much better SOC and cheaper.
Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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Mr. bird said:
I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
Mr. bird said:
Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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I'd tell you to look into the nook hd+ if you're rooting for sure, it has the SD slot, cheaper, but no camera. Can't tell you what the progress is on root though.
jmandawg said:
why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
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I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Mr. bird said:
I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Was it an ipad 1? IMO the ipad 3 i have is worlds above the kindle fire HD, except for the price. The kindle is going to be even more limited and slow than an ipad 2-4. Samsung has been known to not updating their software so i'd recommend a nexus tablet if you want to go android.
I returned my kindle. Right now i have a nexus 7 and an Ipad 3. The ipad 3 works so good it's kinda boring, the nexus is completely open and there are alot of mods you can do to it. At this point i would not recommend a kindle unless you really like the amazon interface. CM10 looks like it's coming soon, but there will be lots of bugs, and you have to wait.
Maybe not exactly the info you're looking for, but here's my experience with the various manufacturers..
My current round up of devices include:
1. NookTablet
2. NookTouch
3. Moto Xoom (gave to Dad, but I still maintain)
4. Sammy Galaxy Tab 2 7"
5. Asus/Google Nexus 7
6. Kindle Fire 8.9 (just got this week; they had a $50 off deal one day)
7. Sammy Note I (phone)
4,5, and 6 are the only "current" models; all the other have newer versions.
They all have their pro and cons...here's my opinion on some of them.
Overall, the Nexus 7 is the winner.
If you're looking to run custom roms, the N7 has the widest selection and (more importantly) most active development community.
It also has the fastest proc of the bunch.
Its one real drawback, as you and others mentioned, is that it does not have expandable memory.
The Gtab2/7"..the 4 things it has over the N7:
1. Rear camera
2. Expandable storage
3. I/R blaster
4. A lot cheaper (I've seen refurbs on woot! twice now)
It also has a good selection of custom roms, but the dev community isn't as active as the N7...and that's only going to get worse as time goes on.
It is noticeably slower than the N7!
If you run any rom not based off of Samsung's rom, you lose the I/R blaster.
It's not that much of a loss because the available I/R remote control software sucks.
I've used the rear (and front camera) not more than a handful of times.
As for the Nook:
I would only recommend a Nook if you happen to frequent B&N stores often. Or you have already purchased e-books/magazines through them.
Their stock rom allows you to read any book while in store.
Their "Nook Kids" is available as an app for iOS, but not available for any Android devices except their own Nooks.
From my experience their Kids apps are nothing more than a larger selection of kids books, and they allow you to record yourself while reading the book.
I've run custom roms on it and ended putting the stock rom back on (rooted and Google Play installed of course)
As for the Kindle:
I would recommend if you have already purchased e-books/magazines through Amazon and/or have an Amazon Prime account.
Amazon (AFAIK) doesn't allow you to stream any video through android devices except their own Kindle Fires.
So as a Prime member, I was able to watch Fringe for the first time last night (a title not available on NetFlix).
You can also "check out" a lot of books without purchasing them.
I did root and get the Google Play store installed on this too.
I most likely won't be installing any custom roms on it.
Not because I like the Amazon UI or anything...but simpy because:
With both the Nook and the Kindle, you get value added services (like being able to read books in store and streaming content not available on other devices/roms)
So for me personally, I'm a big Amazon user, and am digging my 8.9 and the Prime features.
If I was looking for best specs and most open, I'd probably get an Nexus 10
Geekybiker said it best: " I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you. "
I own a GT 2 7, and theres a catch about the SD memory expansion and is that you cant install applications or application data on the SD; not at least on stock rom; the expansion its only useful for media (music, movies, docs, book, etc..) not for apps.
Regards.
It all depends on the features you want now, and or later.
If you like The Fire HD, it has amazing dual speakers and is a great multimedia device, but is limited at the moment due to the Amazon ecosystem. But both the 8.9" and 7" variants, are having custom roms being developed for them, because the bootloaders have been cracked. So if your willing to wait for the goodies, then go with the Kindle Fire HD.
If you want something with more of a all around Android Experience now go with the Galaxy Tab. In my overall Opinion if it maters, pick the Kindle Fire HD either model size.
I ended up ordering the gtab 2 10.1 I want the expandable storage for movies and pics. 16gb is fine for The rest. Thanks to everyone for their input.
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Thinking about the new nexus

So i have the old nexus 7, no issues. Ive had it since launch and am currently running PA.
Now im thinking of upgrading just on a whim. My nexus 7 again is very very smooth atm and works perfectly. Anyone see any reason to even consider upgrading to the new one? If theres one thing i would think about it would be the expanded memory since i have the 8 gig version of the original, i find that my storage is very lacking and i cant install like multi-rom/linux very easily with out deleting everything on my tablet. You guys think it would be worth it just for the better resolution, faster processor and larger storage capacity (64 gigs) to upgrade or should i just wait and see how things fair? I know i can use Usb on the go with the old one, but im still considering upgrading just because 8 gigs really isnt alot dispite the fact that i usually am streaming media to my tablet rather then putting it directly onto it.
metalblaster said:
So i have the old nexus 7, no issues. Ive had it since launch and am currently running PA.
Now im thinking of upgrading just on a whim. My nexus 7 again is very very smooth atm and works perfectly. Anyone see any reason to even consider upgrading to the new one? If theres one thing i would think about it would be the expanded memory since i have the 8 gig version of the original, i find that my storage is very lacking and i cant install like multi-rom/linux very easily with out deleting everything on my tablet. You guys think it would be worth it just for the better resolution, faster processor and larger storage capacity (64 gigs) to upgrade or should i just wait and see how things fair? I know i can use Usb on the go with the old one, but im still considering upgrading just because 8 gigs really isnt alot dispite the fact that i usually am streaming media to my tablet rather then putting it directly onto it.
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Wait for the 2014 Nexus 7.
Nexus 5.
Username invalid said:
Nexus 5.
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nexus 5 is a phone, not really interested in a new phone.
IINexusII said:
Wait for the 2014 Nexus 7.
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probably a good idea, ty
metalblaster said:
nexus 5 is a phone, not really interested in a new phone.
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a 7" phone will be out soon. they've already reached 6.3" with the samsung mega
IINexusII said:
a 7" phone will be out soon. they've already reached 6.3" with the samsung mega
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Asus Fonepad is already a 7" phone. The Samsung Mega specs and quality is low compared to the Xperia Z Ultra.
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Asus Fonepad is already a 7" phone. The Samsung Mega specs and quality is low compared to the Xperia Z Ultra.
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There we are then, the end of 7" tablets!
I had a 16gb v1 that I replaced with a 32gb v2 for the increased storage, faster storage, and faster CPU. Both units perfect out of the box. I gave the v1 to my son and he loves it. Best upgrade I have ever done. I find qi charging is actually great, and the back camera is handy. I love the Panasonic wireless charger.
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My N7LTE arrived just yesterday. It's a nice upgrade to tilapia. Now if only I had source and drivers.
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I'm thinking about the new pulled pork sub at Subway. Should I get it, or a classic pizza sub.....or go get a Burger somewhere?
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My Nexus 7 is my phone. Just use T-mobile 4G Hotspot when I am out. I am looking at the 4 or 5 for a bit more privacy.
The Pulled Pork looks a little better on the new N7, but buy it from Google, not Subway.
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a 7" phone will be out soon. they've already reached 6.3" with the samsung mega
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Dude if I was you I would wait until the 2014 Gen. 3 comes out B/C everything that I'm seeing on the Gen. 2 is not that great but to eaches own I'm hoping that the NEXUS 10 Gen. 2 is going to be a home run for us and if it is I might get it G.B.Y.
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The gen 2 Nexus 7 is way better than the gen 1 in every way. Period.
The next generation will probably be better than the gen 2 again. That's how it works.
If you want something better than your current gen1, buy the gen 2. It's a decent deal.
-KJ
2014 of course, your 2012 is working fine now. does 2012 work on otg?
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New Fire 2015/6 Kids edition advise?

Hi, so I just bought 2 Fire 7" "Kid's edition", which I believe are just the Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015, with an added 1 year Amazon FreeTime subscription?
I'm not sure if I need to root them. They seem a bit slow (not blaming the hardware), and I worry I may lose the 1 year unlimited FreeTime, but at the same time, I bought 64G Micro SD cards, and they will be used offline, so I plan on buying learning apps for little ones.
What should I do? They came with Fire OS 5.1.1 by default, and I really wish to be able to make a backup of whatever I do with them in case the mother I give these as a gift has to recover it somehow (she knows nothing about android btw).
Here's my hopes with these devices:
1- Use them offline, buy, and download many learning apps for kids, as well as games, and movies.
2- Since I seem to be able to use FlashFire at the moment, and not TWRP, find a way to create a nandroid backup, and easy recovery. (or is Amazon recovery good enough?)
3 - Is it worth a slight performance improvement, flashing a lighter rom, and less confusing launcher/Amazon setup, and complicate a recovery procedure?
ianthomas said:
Hi, so I just bought 2 Fire 7" "Kid's edition", which I believe are just the Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015, with an added 1 year Amazon FreeTime subscription?
I'm not sure if I need to root them. They seem a bit slow (not blaming the hardware), and I worry I may lose the 1 year unlimited FreeTime, but at the same time, I bought 64G Micro SD cards, and they will be used offline, so I plan on buying learning apps for little ones.
What should I do? They came with Fire OS 5.1.1 by default, and I really wish to be able to make a backup of whatever I do with them in case the mother I give these as a gift has to recover it somehow (she knows nothing about android btw).
Here's my hopes with these devices:
1- Use them offline, buy, and download many learning apps for kids, as well as games, and movies.
2- Since I seem to be able to use FlashFire at the moment, and not TWRP, find a way to create a nandroid backup, and easy recovery. (or is Amazon recovery good enough?)
3 - Is it worth a slight performance improvement, flashing a lighter rom, and less confusing launcher/Amazon setup, and complicate a recovery procedure?
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does it have a SD card slot?
does it say HD on it?
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does it have a SD card slot?
does it say HD on it?
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"@sd_shadow Thanks for reading my question.
It has a Micro SD card slot for up to 128G of storage, it's not an HD (I believe they don't support Micro SD), and it says 5th generation as well as Fire OS 5.1.1 that came by default. Here's the link, and special offer (buy 2, get 50$ off):
Fire Kids Edition, 7" Display, Wi-Fi, 8 GB, Pink Kid-Proof Case
My questions are really regarding giving these devices to a mother that doesn't know much about tablets, and will mostly be offline (Freetime is mostly Wifi only sadly), so I'm trying to think what I could do to these devices to improve her experience, and the little ones.. I root, and try out roms all the time on my cellphones, but even with much experience using android roms, the Fire OS UI seems confusing, and bloated to me for a regular mom.
ianthomas said:
"@sd_shadow Thanks for reading my question.
It has a Micro SD card slot for up to 128G of storage, it's not an HD (I believe they don't support Micro SD), and it says 5th generation as well as Fire OS 5.1.1 that came by default. Here's the link, and special offer (buy 2, get 50$ off):
Fire Kids Edition, 7" Display, Wi-Fi, 8 GB, Pink Kid-Proof Case
My questions are really regarding giving these devices to a mother that doesn't know much about tablets, and will mostly be offline (Freetime is mostly Wifi only sadly), so I'm trying to think what I could do to these devices to improve her experience, and the little ones.. I root, and try out roms all the time on my cellphones, but even with much experience using android roms, the Fire OS UI seems confusing, and bloated to me for a regular mom.
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yes, it's rootable just use the 5.1.1 root
links in the index
[Index]Amazon Fire 7" - 5th Gen-2015
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Catching Up with the Amazon Fire...

Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
bzowk said:
Hey Guys -
I've been using XDA for a few years now to mod my many other Android devices, but today; was talking to wife and she isn't happy with her Amazon Fire tablet as she says it's too slow and is sick of all the ads. It's a 7" 5th Generation running 5.6.0.1 and all I've done to it in the past is install Google Play on it.
What would be my best option / ROM to load which would basically turn it into a simple yet stable Android device? I looked at LineageOS & a couple of others in this forum, but unsure which is the most stable - and - if it's even possible to install any of them on a 5.6.0.1 device. I planned to test out a couple as I thought I had rooted when installing Google Play long ago so grabbed TWRP and installed FlashFire - but when launching FlashFire I was told it was not rooted.
What would you suggest be the way to go to achieve this goal? Thanks!
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Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, allowing FireOS to update beyond 5.3.2.0 permanently removed the ability to root and/or install custom ROMs. It's FireOS in all it's glory from this point forward. There is a convoluted way to remove some of the Amazon bloat but you probably don't want to go there as it's not for the faint of heart. Most who travel that route have less than satisfactory outcomes. 5th/7th gen Fire 7 devices are getting long in the tooth and are decidedly underpowered for the tasks Amazon demands of it. Your better half is probably looking a new device if she is significantly dissatisfied.
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Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
lakitu47 said:
Some folks over in the HD 8/10 forum seem to be making headway with achieving root, some of which might apply to the Fire 7.
However, I do have to agree the 5th gen Fire 7 I have is barely a functional tablet at this point with the stock ROM.
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HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
Davey126 said:
HD 10 has a different underlying architecture utilizing different kernel and ROM components exposing new vulnerabilities that are being exploited. Amazon will undoubtedly close those as do all manufactures. In contrast HD 8 uses the same architecture as the Fire 7. Realizing root on that device is highly unlikely.
It will be interest to see what Amazon does with the next hardware refresh. Me thinks the Fire 7 will be gone with either an adjustment on the HD 8 price point or the addition of some other gizmo to fill the gap.
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From what it looks like so far, it looks like the current progress for the Fire HD 8 is less so "root" and more like "uncovering hidden features we never knew we could use on Fire OS".
I do notice the Fire HD 8/HD 10 have gotten more of the spotlight recently. The Fire 7 (even the 2017 version) just isn't the $50 bargain it was two years ago. The HD 8 2017 has already dropped down to only $80 new.
Less people are buying the 7" tablet now, because it almost seems "too cheap". I do wonder what the Fire tablet lineup will be next year.
I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
morgonhed said:
I bought the 7" recently and still consider it a pretty good bargain (I paid 40 Euros).
You could argue that the 8" it better value for money (I don't really know, but maybe) but for me the 7" form-factor is just perfect for a "everyday carry device".
The market for 7" tablet is not so big, you could get a Lenovo for about 80 Euro or a Samsung for about 120, that's about it if you want to avoid chinese no-names.
So it is by far the cheapest option and debloated and equipped with Google Playstore it is quite a nice device and I expect Amazon to drop the 7" line, so get it while you can...
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A gently used HDX is a far better device for similar coin. Far superior hardware and capable of running a dozen+ custom ROMs ranging from KitKat to Nougat (soon Oreo). I do enjoy my rooted 5th gen Fire for media streaming playback.

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