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[Q] Thoughts on KFHD with GAPPS and Alt Launchers

Hey everyone, now that the KFHD can run alternative launchers and access the play store, I'm wondering what your opinion is on the KFHD, specifically how does it compare to the Nexus 7. Now that the N7 got bumped to 16gb for $199 and the KFHD can run the play store and alt launchers I think they're pretty close. Any thoughts?

Unless you are invested in the Amazon ecosystem, I don't see the benefits of the KFHD over N7. Having said that, I'm KFHD fan and NOT a fan of the N7

IF you want the FULL Android experience, the KFHD is nothing but a half assed version. Even after root, gapps and alternative launcher.
IF you enjoy Amazon Media, have Amazon prime and invested in Amazon, then you will be happy with the KFHD.
I felt nothing but trapped and frustrated with the KFHD because I wanted the full android experience with FULLY functional gapps.
It varies between people and their needs and wants.
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WillysJeepMan said:
Unless you are invested in the Amazon ecosystem, I don't see the benefits of the KFHD over N7. Having said that, I'm KFHD fan and NOT a fan of the N7
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But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.

Not all apps are marked 'compatible' with the KFHD on the play store. Doesn't mean it won't work but you would still end up having to side load anyways.
Still not a deal breaker though, since it still brings much more to the table. Just throwing that out there in case people think the play store will automatically let you install all available apps.
kthung said:
But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.
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However from this quote, you sound like you've made your mind and just looking to justify the purchase..
Just remember, if you want voice search, you won't have it. If you want Google now, you won't have it, if you want the latest and greatest Android software, you won't get it. The only way would be through a custom rom. Headway is being made but it's still in early development, but you need to keep in mind that you will probably have to choose between Amazon and Android ROMs.
Choose what you think you'll be happy with.
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alkemist80 said:
Not all apps are marked 'compatible' with the KFHD on the play store. Doesn't mean it won't work but you would still end up having to side load anyways.
Still not a deal breaker though, since it still brings much more to the table. Just throwing that out there in case people think the play store will automatically let you install all available apps.
However from this quote, you sound like you've made your mind and just looking to justify the purchase..
Just remember, if you want voice search, you won't have it. If you want Google now, you won't have it, if you want the latest and greatest Android software, you won't get it. The only way would be through a custom rom. Headway is being made but it's still in early development, but you need to keep in mind that you will probably have to choose between Amazon and Android ROMs.
Choose what you think you'll be happy with.
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Actually I haven't made up my mind yet, and I didn't realize that not all play store apps are compatible. Thanks for this info this is actually exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for. Keep it coming!

kthung said:
Actually I haven't made up my mind yet, and I didn't realize that not all play store apps are compatible. Thanks for this info this is actually exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for. Keep it coming!
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Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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shook187 said:
Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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Yikes that might be a deal breaker. I really like the 7" form factor as a media consumption device (reading RSS feeds, streaming videos from a network drive, youtube, etc.). I do like the N7 but the speakers kinda suck and dual-band wifi would be nice. Any other serious bugs?

The speakers on the KFHD were awesome, wish I could have them. I do however use an app called music volume eq which is free from the play store. It's actually pretty amazing, especially with headphones. IMO it sounds even better than the zune software player through my PC and headphones. But if you just want straight up great sound without the use of headphones, KFHD would win in that department.
The KFHD is slightly wider and heavier than the N7. Being a woman and having smaller hands, the slight difference still makes the N7 more comfortable and easier to hold. People say the N7 fits nicely in (larger) pant, coat or dress shirt pockets. I haven't done that myself. The KFHD feels bulkier but it feels solid. I read people stated that the N7 felt cheap but I was shocked when I opened the box. It felt nice to me and no cheapness feel at all, but still not as solid as the KFHD, it has a much larger bezel.
There are some build complaints about the N7, though some of it makes me wonder if it's just nerd OCD or misuse. Anyways, it's advised to find a later build date C9O was the most current. I have a C8O which was perfect out of the box. The number corresponds to the manufacturer calendar month.
It can be a tough choice. If you have the extra $$, you can get both locally, play with them for a week to decide and return the one you don't want. Just find a store that doesn't ask questions about returns and no restocking fee.
I love my N7 but I try to stay neutral in these respects. However between these two forum sections, the KFHD gets very little traffic. Maybe more once the boot strap is functional but right now the N7 is winning. They are selling about a million a month according to Asus.
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kthung said:
But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.
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Yes, I understood your point. But why go through all the hassle of rooting the KFHD (and run the risk of having it unrooted at the next update), adding a custom launcher (that may not work 100% correctly) when for the same price you can get a device that simply works out of the box?
I own a TON of tablet devices, included in the mix is a 16GB KFHD and Samsung GTab 2 7.0. I love 'em all, but if I had to pick one to be a general purpose tablet it would NOT be a KFHD. I've "specialized" my KFHD to be "media consumption only". CBZ/CBR books, videos (MX Player is terrific), and music (UberMusic w/Zune skin is beautiful). My KFHD is NOT rooted but I do use ADW Launcher EX.

shook187 said:
Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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youtube works good for me. Login and everything. You just need to install googleloginservices.apk for it to function properly
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Nexus 7 vs Kindle Fire HD for reading

Hello, i'm going to buy a tablet i'll use to read mainly PDF files.
Of course that will not be it's only use, but i can't think of anything that would discriminate one vs the other one, except the screen quality when reading.
So i'm asking here, which one is better for reading?
There will be mainly text (i'd buy a e-ink Kindle but i've read that it has problems with PDFs), don't care too much about image.
I have to admit that i'd prefer the Nexus 7 for Google's updates, better hardware, GPS etc... But i also read that it has some screen issues, can anyone confirm?
Do you read a lot on your Nexus 7? How is it?

I use my Nexus 7 a lot for eBook and alike reading - EXCELLENT !!
(Never had a Kindle in my hands -> can't compare)

So you care about Nexus's prompt updates, but don't care about Amazon's locked down ecosystem, Where you are forced to only only their out of date a limited selection of apps, and overpriced book selection?
The Nexus gets the best of ALL worlds. You can install the Kindle App, or the Kobo one, or the Sony Reader app, or the B&N one, you can get your content from where YOU want to get it from...

CrazyPeter said:
So you care about Nexus's prompt updates, but don't care about Amazon's locked down ecosystem, Where you are forced to only only their out of date a limited selection of apps, and overpriced book selection?
The Nexus gets the best of ALL worlds. You can install the Kindle App, or the Kobo one, or the Sony Reader app, or the B&N one, you can get your content from where YOU want to get it from...
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Sure, i do, but it's not really locked down. I mean, i can still push APKs via ADB, right? If i do so with a file manager, then every APK can be installed without problems. Plus, i trust developers for custom ROMs.
My main concern is about reading, as I said; if it wasn't for that, Nexus 7 would be better for sure.

As a pure reading device, the Kindle is the better bet. I read on my Nexus and chose the Nexus over the Kindle, despite me primary reason being to read.
However, the Kindle Fire HD has a better screen which suffers less glare and has a better reading angle. Its also got a longer battery life. Its a little larger than the Nexus, but the size is made good use of in that the large bezel on the sides is ideal to put your thumb on while reading without touching the actual content. Its more comfortable to read a book for that reason I found when I held both. The Kindle Fire HD appears to be a better and more sturdily built item, so is less likely to cause you screen lifting or damaged speaker etc issues. Amazon integration obviously helps with seamlessly buying more books.
There are obviously limitations to the Kindle Fire, but if you are primarily a reader then its the one to pick. It is on a lower Android version, so many apps wont work, but most will and with the recent Android 4.2 debacle on the Nexus 7, you could view being tied to a lower more stable OS as a benefit. You can do less with a Kindle, but what it does it does well. Its harder to break the Kindle. Its WiFi is also dual band so potentially quicker to download items. You also get better integration of information with books and movies with the Kindle Fire.
So, although I went for the Nexus, it was a tough call. The lack of GPS, Google Play Music (not compatible), no out of the box camera functionality and uncertainty if my favourite apps would work pushed me to the Nexus. The 3g variant was the icing on the cake. I also found the Kindle to be sluggish at times when browsing. I was told this was because I was using a demo Kindle, but I've read reviews that also report this sluggishness. I'm happy with the Nexus (very), but it currently is on 4.2 OS which is making it buggy and there is a question mark in my mind about its build quality and how long it will be before the screen lifts or "something" breaks.

Looking at getting a 7" tablet. Google or Amazon

For Christmas I received $100 in Amazon gift cards. I have been playing with getting a tablet since the last generation Kindle. Now that I have $100 my wife is more open to me getting a tablet.
I have it down to the Kindle and Google Nexus. I know I can not get the Nexus from Amazon though.
I have been rooting phones for over a year and loading custom ROMs. I see for the Kindle I need root to get the play store like I have to root to put Amazon on my phone.
Kind of disappointed the Kindle does not have GPS.
Is there any other downfalls to the Kindle? I see its performance is not as good as the Nexus. Wondering if Custom ROMs might tweak some of that.
Thanks for your help.
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I've got a Nexus 7, had several original KF and my wife just got a KFHD.
If you are missing the GPS... and plan on doing roms and such I would stick with the Nexus 7 which is ready to go pretty much out of the box. Unlocking/rooting is trivial as a Nexus device.
If you are planning on using Amazon Prime videos etc.. that is not really an option on the Nexus 7 (no Prime Video apps).
Really depends on what you are going to do with it.
My wife wants movies, books etc... I use my Nexus 7 for business. I can do those other things, but don't normally have time to read or watch movies.

Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.

I owned both and both are good tablets but I found myself keeping the Kindle. The Nexus is the better performer spec wise but the loud dual speakers, HDMI out, better screen and the wider bezel on the Kindle won me over.
BTW the performance difference really does go unnoticed unless you run a quadrant score.

veener79 said:
Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.
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I guess it's too late now, but... The Nexus 7s on Amazon are all being sold by third party retailers, with obscene markup.
Just from a glance, the cheapest one available right now is an 8GB model for $236. Google stopped selling the 8GB model in November, I think. Offering instead a 16GB model for $199. On Amazon, the 16GB model costs $250 or more. Google's Play Store offers a 32GB model for $250. On amazon, the 32 GB model costs $270, thus being actually the least offensive (to me), but still more than it should be.
When I was searching for a 7" tablet, I had $180 in Amazon gift cards... and those markups are a large part of why I picked up the KFHD (as well as the superior speakers, HDMI out, and Amazon Prime videos).
I really like this tablet. It's worth every cent; even more so, now that I've rooted it and put the Play store on it.
I hope you enjoy your Nexus 7, though.

Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.

Kindle fire hd hands down
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veener79 said:
Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.
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Hmm... hadn't thought about the shipping (too spoiled by Prime, I guess), or the tax (since I live in a state with no sales tax). Guess that $20 "premium" wasn't so bad as I thought.
...Although, that still doesn't excuse the prices on the 8 and 16 GB models (imo). :S

I agree with the prices for the 8 and 16gb models are nuts. The only one that is right is the 32gig. I have to pay tax with Google because they bought Motorola and they have a ton of offices close to me.

I know you got the Nexus, but I will still answer.
I got the Kindle Fire 2 from work. It's awful. Terrible battery life, the kindle OS is crap, and no way to get android on it that I can see.
From looking it up, 4x the processing speed, a better resolution display, and an already android JB device....
And I can get 3g if I want.
I have no idea WHY anyone would get a kindle. Mine was free, and I love free stuff, and I will hack and use this thing to death. Honestly though, if the nexus was $300 and the Kindle was $200, i would STILL get the nexus, that however, is not the case. It's $160 for the kindle....and $200 for the nexus. That's only $40 for an infinitely better device!
NOW, if you talk about the Fire HD, still the Nexus. My above is no longer as relevant, but here is the rundown
Nexus
-quad core
-8hours battery (claims by google)
-55 grams lighter! (340g)
HD
-Dual Core
-11hours battery (claims by Amazon)
-55 grams heavier (395g)
Side notes that I cannot claim as fact, but from Amazons own websites I cannot find proof that it has either
-NFC
-GPS
Now, I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't plan on using GPS. HOWEVER, I will use NFC a lot when I get a phone or tablet. For the tablet I plan to have an NFC set next to my second media monitor and have it turn on my wifi and open a remote app I use. I will also have an NFC thing in my case in my bag that will turns wifi, bluetooth, and gps off, as well as silencing the tablet.
I just think the nexus has more bang for your buck. However, the Kindle HD DOES have more battery life, CAN be hacked to run JB (that's why I didn't include it as a downside for the HD, I assume being here you know how to root and ROM it) so you shouldn't miss out much from apps. However, if you use the kindle for the Prime services, then you won't have the Google services so...I suppose that's user preference but I personally cannot live without a custom ROM, I feel suffocated heh.
Anyways, enjoy my two cents! Hope it can help someone!
TL;DR
Nexus- Yes, more for money
Kindle Fire HD- Yes, more battery, kindle services.
Kindle Fire 2- No, just, please don't. Do whatever you can for that extra $40 to get the nexus

To buy or not to buy?

Hey all, I did not see a topic like this posted so forgive me if there already is one.
I am looking to possibly buy my first tablet, and probably the HD+. I currently own a Samsung Galaxy Note (original, european version) which has a 1280x800 5.3" screen. Thus why I haven't bought a tablet. The nexus 7 was tempting but the low resolution relative to my phone and the lack of SD slot dissuaded me. Plus, while 7" is larger than my 5.3" phone, it wasn't enough.
Now enter the HD+ with its byond HD resolution, 9" of real estate and i'm interested. I played with one at my local B&M store and was impressed. I wanted to check xda first to see what the development community is like before I buy. So far the only negatives are:
* Most of the videos on youtube call it "laggy" or "slow" or "unresponsive" Is this fixed at all?
* Complete lack of USB support. Proprietary charger, etc
* Pretty heavy compared to 7" tablets
I'm posting this essentially to request someone convince me I need this tablet and that the devs are behind it with rooting, etc. How stable is CM10 now on it, for example?

Wow this forum is completely dead. Guess i have my answer.
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nook hd+
I go my hands on a 16gig nook hd+ cheap i love it i chose it because the 7 inch tablets seem fine for reading kind of like a paperback but i also enjoy reading comics and way to small on a 7inch. The 10.1 inch tablets are a joke for reading books and are way to long for reading comics like holding a stone tablet in your hands. The nook hd+ and fire hd 8.9 seemed like that sweet spot i was looking for. I chose the nook hd+ over the fire 8.9 for many reasons first the deal i got on it $220 plus a teal book case, the screen is fantastic, micro sd card slot i dont use any streaming and i dont pay for downloads i have a giant harddrive full of mp4 videos epub books and cbz comic files i load myself, and right out of the box the nook hd+ reads .cbz comic files and pretty good at it so i didnt need to pay for anything, root or sideload any apps.
Now i read all the reviews on the nook hd they all reported lag unfinished operating system and nook store didnt have the same amount of multimedia support as the others. Im running the latest software on my nook hd+ and i have zero issues zero. And i have way to many of my own files to load to care if the nook store dosent have a certain movie ill download the latest torrent it plays my bluray 720p mp4 rips like a champ ill download latest books and use clibre to convert and load my epubs and ill download comic files and use comic rack to convert to .cbz
It comes down to you if you want to pay for downloads go with another tablet if you want to load your own stuff you wont get more bang for your buck then nook hd+
Plus if your gonna root that sd card slot is a must have
Oh ya i dont care about a front or back camera on a 9inch tablet thats why i have a phone and laptop

My advice: buy!
Then put CM10 as to verygreen on it and never look back.
I have the direct comparison to a nexus 7 and it is no contest. The screen of the HD+ is absolutely beautiful, the speed of the OS is absolutely okay - much better that the N7 running 4.2 actually.
With a 32 or 64 GB Sd-card you have tons of space.
I would say, atm the HD+ is the best value tablet available (thanks to the developments going on here).
LxMxFxD said:
Hey all, I did not see a topic like this posted so forgive me if there already is one.
I am looking to possibly buy my first tablet, and probably the HD+. I currently own a Samsung Galaxy Note (original, european version) which has a 1280x800 5.3" screen. Thus why I haven't bought a tablet. The nexus 7 was tempting but the low resolution relative to my phone and the lack of SD slot dissuaded me. Plus, while 7" is larger than my 5.3" phone, it wasn't enough.
Now enter the HD+ with its byond HD resolution, 9" of real estate and i'm interested. I played with one at my local B&M store and was impressed. I wanted to check xda first to see what the development community is like before I buy. So far the only negatives are:
* Most of the videos on youtube call it "laggy" or "slow" or "unresponsive" Is this fixed at all?
* Complete lack of USB support. Proprietary charger, etc
* Pretty heavy compared to 7" tablets
I'm posting this essentially to request someone convince me I need this tablet and that the devs are behind it with rooting, etc. How stable is CM10 now on it, for example?
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Definitely buy.
I too was looking at a new tablet for 2013, similar to you. I have Kindle Fire 1st generation so I know what 7 inch tablet can do for me. Movies and reading books was fine but surfing and comics - not that good. I ordered the 64gb version and looking forward to it
The only downside I was considering is lack of front facing camera for Skype but I solved that problem with a new phone. Another downside is the speakers location on only one side but I can live with that.

tironeol said:
Definitely buy.
I too was looking at a new tablet for 2013, similar to you. I have Kindle Fire 1st generation so I know what 7 inch tablet can do for me. Movies and reading books was fine but surfing and comics - not that good. I ordered the 64gb version and looking forward to it
The only downside I was considering is lack of front facing camera for Skype but I solved that problem with a new phone. Another downside is the speakers location on only one side but I can live with that.
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Best value tablet, and with rooting/cm its all you need. Reason forum is quiet is there isn't much need for anything!

tironeol said:
I ordered the 64gb version and looking forward to it
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64GB version? Did I miss some big announcement?
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I'm about to get one

Went with a nexus 10 for almost twice the price. I just got it yesterday. Screen Res is niiiice but contrast is very lacking.
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leapinlar said:
64GB version? Did I miss some big announcement?
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It's 32gb. In my mind I added the 32gb on board with my 32gb mem card.
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Went with a nexus 10 for almost twice the price. I just got it yesterday. Screen Res is niiiice but contrast is very lacking.
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Nexus 10 is a fine device but for me it doesn't bring anything extra to a tablet that I need. Of course different people will have different needs.

tironeol said:
It's 32gb. In my mind I added the 32gb on board with my 32gb mem card.
Nexus 10 is a fine device but for me it doesn't bring anything extra to a tablet that I need. Of course different people will have different needs.
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I hear ya. The only major problem with the HD+ is the proprietary charger and lack of Bluetooth. If you're cool with that its all good.
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I hear ya. The only major problem with the HD+ is the proprietary charger and lack of Bluetooth. If you're cool with that its all good.
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Bluetooth works, no lack at all! I stream music and use MAPS with my phone's GPS using BT.

I've had mine for about a week now. Some very good help on here for installing google play store (without even rooting) and booting cm10 from the sd card. That's why I got it. The main drawbacks in my mind was no access to play store, and proprietary version of android. But those issues have been taken care of by folks on this forum, and the only thing left as negatives were the proprietary charging/usb port and no camera... I think I'll be able to live with those.
I still haven't gotten adb working but adbwireless seems to do the trick so that's not an issue now either. I'm on the Buy It side as well.
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Aside from rooted stock being allergic to to any changes to system files I quite like the Nook HD. It is a good size for reading at the table but so was my old Galaxy Tab 7+. I could have gone for the N7 but I have a bitter hatred against Google for deciding on us that we don't need that micro sd port. Sounds abit like a certain other company no?
Buy if you are ok with that limitation (only if you are on stock though)
Frankly I liked the Nook Color the most

KF 8.9 vs Nook HD+

Has anyone here tried the Nook HD+ also?
I'm on the fence between a Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and a Nook HD+. I wasn't sure if I wanted a 7" or 9" at first but I think I need a 9" because I mostly will want to use it to look at PDF tech manuals and CAD schematic drawings when I'm on the go crawling around in areas where it is inconvenient to carry a laptop. Aside from that, its nice to have something to use on the plane or sitting around at the airport.
The main differences I see are:
Kindle: thinner (barely), has mimo wifi (don't know if its a real diff), camera (already have a phone camera), micro usb (don't have to buy proprietary connectors), ambient light sensor (might save some batt)
Nook: lighter (not by much), higher ppi (barely), external storage (although I'm not sure if I really need it)
Price is about the same if I look on ebay. Software is the same if I put on CM10, although I'm not sure if the kindle is as far along.
For me, seems like the biggest diff is the micro usb vs the external storage, and maybe the weight, hard to know how important 2.4oz is. I suspect that the external storage won't really be needed so if the weight isnt a big diff, I think I may lean towards the kindle.
I'd be interested in any other important differences people have noticed.

looked at kindle hd vs nook hd vs nexus 7 inch variants...
They are all so close as far as specs...
I chose the kfhd for the hdmi output, otherwise I woulda gone nexus.. perhaps nexus 10 is a valid option? Gps is a nice feature.
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mrkhigh said:
looked at kindle hd vs nook hd vs nexus 7 inch variants...
They are all so close as far as specs...
I chose the kfhd for the hdmi output, otherwise I woulda gone nexus.. perhaps nexus 10 is a valid option? Gps is a nice feature.
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The nexus 10 is $400 where the kindle fire 8.9 and nook hd+ can be got for the $250 range so its no comparison there.
If I was getting a 7", I might get a nexus

I've rooted every device I've ever owned on the Android platform. I chose the Kindle 8.9 because of the huge speaker sound difference, hdmi out, and I have Amazon prime. I fully expected to have to root this to be close to what I consider a working tablet.
But... considering the ability to sideload apps, which nook doesn't do out of the box, I have no need to root. There isn't one app I use that hasn't easily installed. I use Chrome as the browser and it's definitely speedy enough for me. This thing is a pleasant surprise and I love it right out of the box. The ability to sideload apps without rooting is the largest difference between the nook and the Kindle, and that makes the Kindle a no brainer to me.
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To me the only advantage the Nook has is the ability to boot to CM10 from the SD card. Amazon's content and the sound quality on the KFHD won me over.

Well, I don't intend to use any of the amazon content. or at least very rarely.
The speakers are of no value to me as I would use headphones (unless the audio on there is better too).
but yes, it seems the SD card is the only major advantage. and to me, it seems the proprietary connector and the lack of ambient light sensor is the major disadvantage.
I'm not sure if what kind of difference there is between the displays. or just holding the device. the nook is lighter but I don't know if it is noticable. I saw one member mention that he thought it "felt" much lighter" eventhough he knows they are about the same.
I'm also assuming the CM10 will run faster than the standard with sideloaded apps

Yup same here I picked the kindle fire hd for the great sounding speakers and its good for emulators
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The fire imho has better build quality but that is always subjective.

gunnyman said:
The fire imho has better build quality but that is always subjective.
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How do you feel that it has better build quality?
I've held both in my hand briefly and couldn't really tell. But maybe I missed something

Like I said it's subjective. The fire just felt more solid in my hands
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