Looking at getting a 7" tablet. Google or Amazon - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For Christmas I received $100 in Amazon gift cards. I have been playing with getting a tablet since the last generation Kindle. Now that I have $100 my wife is more open to me getting a tablet.
I have it down to the Kindle and Google Nexus. I know I can not get the Nexus from Amazon though.
I have been rooting phones for over a year and loading custom ROMs. I see for the Kindle I need root to get the play store like I have to root to put Amazon on my phone.
Kind of disappointed the Kindle does not have GPS.
Is there any other downfalls to the Kindle? I see its performance is not as good as the Nexus. Wondering if Custom ROMs might tweak some of that.
Thanks for your help.
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I've got a Nexus 7, had several original KF and my wife just got a KFHD.
If you are missing the GPS... and plan on doing roms and such I would stick with the Nexus 7 which is ready to go pretty much out of the box. Unlocking/rooting is trivial as a Nexus device.
If you are planning on using Amazon Prime videos etc.. that is not really an option on the Nexus 7 (no Prime Video apps).
Really depends on what you are going to do with it.
My wife wants movies, books etc... I use my Nexus 7 for business. I can do those other things, but don't normally have time to read or watch movies.

Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.

I owned both and both are good tablets but I found myself keeping the Kindle. The Nexus is the better performer spec wise but the loud dual speakers, HDMI out, better screen and the wider bezel on the Kindle won me over.
BTW the performance difference really does go unnoticed unless you run a quadrant score.

veener79 said:
Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.
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I guess it's too late now, but... The Nexus 7s on Amazon are all being sold by third party retailers, with obscene markup.
Just from a glance, the cheapest one available right now is an 8GB model for $236. Google stopped selling the 8GB model in November, I think. Offering instead a 16GB model for $199. On Amazon, the 16GB model costs $250 or more. Google's Play Store offers a 32GB model for $250. On amazon, the 32 GB model costs $270, thus being actually the least offensive (to me), but still more than it should be.
When I was searching for a 7" tablet, I had $180 in Amazon gift cards... and those markups are a large part of why I picked up the KFHD (as well as the superior speakers, HDMI out, and Amazon Prime videos).
I really like this tablet. It's worth every cent; even more so, now that I've rooted it and put the Play store on it.
I hope you enjoy your Nexus 7, though.

Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.

Kindle fire hd hands down
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veener79 said:
Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.
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Hmm... hadn't thought about the shipping (too spoiled by Prime, I guess), or the tax (since I live in a state with no sales tax). Guess that $20 "premium" wasn't so bad as I thought.
...Although, that still doesn't excuse the prices on the 8 and 16 GB models (imo). :S

I agree with the prices for the 8 and 16gb models are nuts. The only one that is right is the 32gig. I have to pay tax with Google because they bought Motorola and they have a ton of offices close to me.

I know you got the Nexus, but I will still answer.
I got the Kindle Fire 2 from work. It's awful. Terrible battery life, the kindle OS is crap, and no way to get android on it that I can see.
From looking it up, 4x the processing speed, a better resolution display, and an already android JB device....
And I can get 3g if I want.
I have no idea WHY anyone would get a kindle. Mine was free, and I love free stuff, and I will hack and use this thing to death. Honestly though, if the nexus was $300 and the Kindle was $200, i would STILL get the nexus, that however, is not the case. It's $160 for the kindle....and $200 for the nexus. That's only $40 for an infinitely better device!
NOW, if you talk about the Fire HD, still the Nexus. My above is no longer as relevant, but here is the rundown
Nexus
-quad core
-8hours battery (claims by google)
-55 grams lighter! (340g)
HD
-Dual Core
-11hours battery (claims by Amazon)
-55 grams heavier (395g)
Side notes that I cannot claim as fact, but from Amazons own websites I cannot find proof that it has either
-NFC
-GPS
Now, I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't plan on using GPS. HOWEVER, I will use NFC a lot when I get a phone or tablet. For the tablet I plan to have an NFC set next to my second media monitor and have it turn on my wifi and open a remote app I use. I will also have an NFC thing in my case in my bag that will turns wifi, bluetooth, and gps off, as well as silencing the tablet.
I just think the nexus has more bang for your buck. However, the Kindle HD DOES have more battery life, CAN be hacked to run JB (that's why I didn't include it as a downside for the HD, I assume being here you know how to root and ROM it) so you shouldn't miss out much from apps. However, if you use the kindle for the Prime services, then you won't have the Google services so...I suppose that's user preference but I personally cannot live without a custom ROM, I feel suffocated heh.
Anyways, enjoy my two cents! Hope it can help someone!
TL;DR
Nexus- Yes, more for money
Kindle Fire HD- Yes, more battery, kindle services.
Kindle Fire 2- No, just, please don't. Do whatever you can for that extra $40 to get the nexus

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Official NOOKcolor 2 thread..

B&N will release new NC, called NOOKcolor 2 in November 7th (?) to compete with KF.
http://www.slashgear.com/bn-nook-color-2-tipped-for-nov-7-in-kindle-fire-challenge-28191696/
I personally think B&N should make the NC2 as a full tablet, not a 2nd-gen e-reader. Camera, microphone, .... will be a big boost, otherwise, ehhh, I don't know
votinh said:
B&N will release new NC, called NOOKcolor 2 in November 7th (?) to compete with KF.
http://www.slashgear.com/bn-nook-color-2-tipped-for-nov-7-in-kindle-fire-challenge-28191696/
I personally think B&N should make the NC2 as a full tablet, not a 2nd-gen e-reader. Camera, microphone, .... will be a big boost, otherwise, ehhh, I don't know
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Damn I just ordered the Nook Color Wednesday. Probably should have waited. Any ideas on the price point?
I would expect it keeping around $250 range.
They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.
BitingChaos said:
They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.
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149 is for the refurbs. new is still at 249. can't imagine the Nook 2 being cheaper.
pharpe said:
Damn I just ordered the Nook Color Wednesday. Probably should have waited. Any ideas on the price point?
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Since you ordered yours so close to the new one, maybe you can exchange it. That's if you bought from BN
BitingChaos said:
They're going to have to set it to $199 to be considered.
If Amazon has a tablet packed with features for $199, why would they buy a B&N tablet with less functionality for $249?
B&N is selling the Nook Color for $149 on eBay. That will probably be the standard price after the Kindle Fire is released.
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Packed with features? Are you serious? Its almost the exact same as the Nook Color (save the dual-core cpu).
Honestly, I think they should keep the original color around and sell it at a slightly lower than the KF price point, maybe $179? Perhaps the 2 should be a 10" version (it would be the only 10" 'e-reader' on the market, no?). Give it a little more ram and a dual core processor and call it a day (put it back at the $249 price point).
Dual core faster cpu for games and high definition movies. More ram.
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook. For non hackers the kf is going to be a much better multimedia device vice just reading. Plus native android market via amazon market.
Gonna be hard to beat software offering wise.
Aaand once hacked.. That dual core cpu will make transcoding native xvid divx files without reencoding much smoother.
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guardianali said:
Dual core faster cpu for games and high definition movies. More ram.
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook. For non hackers the kf is going to be a much better multimedia device vice just reading. Plus native android market via amazon market.
Gonna be hard to beat software offering wise.
Aaand once hacked.. That dual core cpu will make transcoding native xvid divx files without reencoding much smoother.
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We can't really start comparing since we don't know what the NC 2 will bring. Posible a dual core cpu, and maybe it will have full access to the market. But its just plain speculation, what we know is that the KF has no sd card slot, so transfering files to it its gonna be a pain, unless you want to upload pirated stuff (movies, tv shoes, videos etc) to their anti-freedom cloud lol
guardianali said:
Plus... KF has amazon streaming video. Not just books like nook.
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Not a free service. Amazon prime streaming will run you ~$80/yr. About what a Netflix subscription cost you.
guardianali said:
Plus native android market via amazon market.
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Source?
I agree with everything else you said. Which is why I think the 2 should have a better cpu and more ram.
the KF won't have an external storage slot, that's alone make it for all the strong side...
The KF can never beet the Nook's main killer feature, it's "Unbrickable" without a mod right out of the box. If the Nook2 even has that it will instantly be better then the KF, at least in the Dev community's eyes (and those are the ones that matter)
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The KF has no memory card slot. That is deal-breaker for me. I recently bricked my NC. But thanks to all the info on xda I was able to restore her. And I'm running CM7.1 on sd. CM7.1 runs great off an sd card. A dual-boot NC beats the crap out of the KF imho.
Just got the news about the Nook Color 2. But I can't find any specs beside some rumors.
ThomasKru said:
Just got the news about the Nook Color 2. But I can't find any specs beside some rumors.
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I'll raise you. Code named 'Acclaim,' price point at a speculated $349 10" tablet. Smart touch tablet holding at $139, and the Color at $249. Expect some sort of announcement on Nov. 7th.
B&N will have 3 ebook readers next quarter, not 2. According to the slide, the NookColor will be getting a brother tablet. Now, I’ve been asked not to post the slide, unfortunately; it might be possible to trace it back to my source. Here’s what it says:
Nook EPD
Smart Touch $139
Nook Color
Encore $249
Acclaim $349
There’s also a notation that it has been approved by WL/JI, and I believe those are the initials of William Lynch (CEO of B&N) and James Iannone (head of B&N Digital Products). (Before I go further, let me confirm that Encore and Smart Touch are valid product names for the current 6″ Nook Touch and 7″ NookColor.) That part is legit.
All I have right now are the names and prices of the tablets, but that alone tells me several details. First and foremost, B&N will keep the NookTouch at $139, and they will have the 2 NookColors at higher price points. The Encore and Acclaim tablets will be priced at $249 and $349.
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/09/23/barnes-noble-to-launch-2-new-nookcolors-this-year/
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Also....this!
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/10/27/barnes-noble-to-ship-new-nookcolor-on-7-november/
All the Nook Colors and Kindle3s disappeared from my local Walmart Supercenter the shelf that they were on a few days ago is empty with only the price stickers and a few Nook screen protectors hanging around. Also checking the Website it says all the Walmarts within a few dozen miles have "Limited" or "Out of Stock" listed for the Nook Color.
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jgaf said:
Since you ordered yours so close to the new one, maybe you can exchange it. That's if you bought from BN
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I actually ordered it from overstock.com. They have a 30 full refund return policy so I may just send it back. I'll probably keep it though. It's a refurb and I only paid $149. There is no telling what the Nook 2 will cost. Plus it's going to take a while to get root and for stable roms to be developed.
pharpe said:
I actually ordered it from overstock.com. They have a 30 full refund return policy so I may just send it back. I'll probably keep it though. It's a refurb and I only paid $149. There is no telling what the Nook 2 will cost. Plus it's going to take a while to get root and for stable roms to be developed.
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Yeah $150 isn't much so you might as well keep it. If you get a Nook2 in the future you can use the NC as a test Bed/Custom Tablet/Play Thing permanently.
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Buy.com has refurbished ones for 139$ free shipping...
psyched!
I'm excited, I've been looking into an e-reader for a bit now, and haven't been able to decide on one or the other. I hope the NC2 or whatever it will be called pushes me over the edge
Interesting about the "expanded boutiques " WSJ is talking about here
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577003760385780258.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[Q] Upgrading to a tablet under $300?

I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
Wait for NEXUS 7 at Google IO
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Get the Nexus 7. I love my Nook Color but sadly it's Specs have officially been labeled outdated by the Nexus 7. For $200/250 You get a Quad-Core CPU, 12core GPU, 8/16gb of Storage, 1gb RAM, WiFi, Bluetooth(With an actual Antenna), NFC, $25 Google Play credit, Tons of Preloaded Apps, Android 4.1 Jellybean. The list is just pure beauty. If you have $200 to burn then this is THE Tablet to get now. Amazon and B&N just got one-upped Big Time. Nexus 7 ships Mid-July and is available for PreOrder from the Google Play store: HERE
Hoser88 said:
I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
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Well, you said full-size. There is the (discontinued) TouchPad, which is 10" or so, and you can get those pretty cheap.
They run CM9 pretty well, I have to say. (full disclosure: I helped port it). My big issue with the touchpad is I'm not a fan of the size, and it's a little thick/heavy.
If by full size, you mean a 10.1" tablet, then your options are very limited. The really good 10inch tablets start at about $350 (the 16GB Asus TF300 can be had for a twenty bucks more than that).
Alternatively, if you're not looking for something cutting edge, then there are plenty of refurbished last-year models going around for less than $300. Acer is selling refurbished A500 units for as little as $229 on its eBay store, and if you keep an eye open on sites like techbargains.com for similar deals that come and go.
(Refurbished might be a bit of a gamble, but it's paid off handsomely for me in the past -- bought my Nook Color that way too. Buying direct from the manufacturer helps though. Just make sure they really are refurbished and not "pre-owned".)
Finally (at the risk of raising the ire of the Android gods, you can also get a refurbished iPad 2 for $319 from Apple, which isn't a bad price either.
But if you could stretch a little beyond $300, and want something new, then I think the Asus TF300 is probably your best bet at the moment. There might be some downward pressure on 10-inch prices with the introduction of the HD models (the Acer A700 is only $450, which is the same price as the lower-def A510, so that has to drop) but I haven't seen anything yet.
I would definitely go with the Nexus 7. I planned on selling my Nook and HP Touchpad to get one.
Nexus 7 would be stunning if Google included a mSD slot. Looks gr8 as is, not stunning though.
Which one would you prefer, the nexus 7 or a galaxy tab plus 16gb wifi only? The last ones are at $237.90 refurbished at amazon. The GT+ will receive a software upgrade, so the only differences will be the ir blaster, back camera, sd slot, screen resolution, NFC (don't know what it is ) and the chipset. Which one would you prefer?
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umm...Nexus 7...
quad core Tegra 3 processor, 12 core GPU, NFC (wireless data transfer that is more secure than bluetooth) and a whole bunch more goodies...
plus it comes with 4.1 installed...
all at a low low price of $199...
can't beat it
Several sources say Google doesn't take any margin on the product, so you are basically paying the manufacturer price for the Nexus 7 (and any required warranty by law). There won't be anyone beating that for a while.
Oh, and it weighs the same as the Nook Color/Tablet
The only bummer I see is that adobe flash won't be officially supported (if I didn't misunderstood), but since the N7 may be the next developers tab I think it will be somehow updated by devs.
The lack of sd slot almost made me not to be interested on it but when I reviewed the GT+ vs Transformer Prime reviews and benchmarks I got convinced, the Prime is just to fast. If I get the N7 I will buy the 16gb version, 8gb it's just to little (like the Nook Color's memory).
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Nexus 7 16Gb vs Ipad 2 16gb

Or ... in the UK £210 vs £329 - both list price and shipped. What is the price difference in the US ?
So for the extra £119 you get 3" of screen, a rear facing camera and better audio quality and the legendary Apple returns policy. Which is not so bad...
Everyone is saying that the Nexus 7 is a bargain but I don't see it as being so clear cut.
( Not trying to troll ... or start an IOS vs Android thread... but I am just genuinely on the fence as to where to spend the proceeds of my HTC flyer sale ).
It all comes down to preference..
Do you want a bigger heavier form factor but with a larger screen? Then get the iPad.
Do you want something smaller and lighter? The get the Nexus 7.
Do you want to mess around with it such as rooting, custom ROMS? Nexus 7.
Do you want (even need?) a better FFC or a rear camera? iPad.
The nexus 7 comes in a bargain for it's a fully featured tablet with a base price of 200$ (or 250$ in this case) that is going to be supported throughout it's life by Google (latest updates, great development scene).
So the real question is, if you're to get a tablet.. what are you going to be using it for? What would you like to do with it? what would you like it to be able to do? GPS in car? custom ROMs? Jailbreak for custom Apps? Apple's great App selections? Play Stores app selections?
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Personally for MY personal use. I'd go with the nexus 7 just because I love messing with gadgets and the Nexus 7 is easier to toy with. I'm planning on using it as an eReader and I always import my books in .epub format. To me, it's easier to drag epubs from computer to device (HATE iTunes). I also want to install emulators and play old games on it as well as the new games found in the App store. When the time comes I'll probably have Ubuntu inside as well so I can dual boot Android/Ubuntu or some distro just to have that computer on the go. I also like trying out developer ROMs and kernels that add more functionality usually like USB OTG. Just some ideas as what you want to do.
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Or ... in the UK £210 vs £329 - both list price and shipped. What is the price difference in the US ?
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Here in the states the 16 GB Nexus 7 is $249.99 while a 16 GB iPad 2 is $529 (without shipping costs, and sales taxes). So, that is a price difference of $279.01. I can buy two 16 GB Nexus 7s for the price of one iPad 2.
Now, if you were to buy an iPad 2 over an iPad 3 you're only saving $70... now that's a no brainier.
Check out this review where they compare the nexus 7 to the IPad 2 and 3. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...fantastic-200-tablet/?comments=1#comments-bar
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But youre also paying £119 extra for a slower processor, a dual core compared to quad core.
Also, according to gsmarena, a lower res screen with 132ppi compared to 216.
Depends if you care about these features really
Also, whether you prefer iOS or android...
Bigger screen but lower resolution & considering Apple have aren't releasing iOS 6 for the original iPad, I wouldn't bet on the iPad 2 being supported in iOS 7, whereas the nexus 7 is going to keep getting updates.
Also bear in mind that although it's close to £210 on Google play at other retailers such as PC World do free delivery so it's only £199. It's only £10 but it makes a difference.
N7 is intended for content consumption, whereas the the app store for the iPad has productivity apps that are more developed than Android. Which one do you want to do more?
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Also bear in mind that although it's close to £210 on Google play at other retailers such as PC World do free delivery so it's only £199. It's only £10 but it makes a difference.
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Yeah, but don't you get £15 play store credit when you order directly from Google - plus, Googles return policy has to be better than PCWorld. Lol
As for the original question, I'll take the faster cpu, GPU, higher res screen and the much cheaper device over an ipad2 - doh!
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Fair comments and thanks for the input.
In the US the price difference is compelling.
I guess the tegra 3 is faster than the A5X.
Plus the Nexus gets the play store credit (though I don't place any value on transformers movie because I wouldn't purchase it).
I just got my fingers burnt with the HTC flyer due to lack of O/S upgrades but I think this will not be the case with the Nexus 7.
If nothing else it will make the other Android tablet makers up their game. I would like a premium Android tablet with decent O/S updates and audiophile sound quality at an ipad price.
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Here in the states the 16 GB Nexus 7 is $249.99 while a 16 GB iPad 2 is $529 (without shipping costs, and sales taxes). So, that is a price difference of $279.01. I can buy two 16 GB Nexus 7s for the price of one iPad 2.
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You've got your prices wrong. 16GB iPad 2 w/Wifi only is US$399 minus tax and shipping. The US$529 you're talking about is the 16GB iPad 2 w/Wifi+3G. (Source: Apple's website)
@OP: As others have stated, it really just comes down to preference. I tend to like the 10 inch form factor for use at home, while the 7 inch form factor is better for on the go.
clearly they are not directly comparable, if you want 10" then its the ipad if want 7" then its the nexus7. If you want productivity then its the ipad, if you want some fun then the nexus7. If your worried about bang for buck then in my opinion dont buy any of them if moneys not an issue then buy both:laugh:
I don't think the decision between N7 and iPad2 comes down to hardware, but rather iOS vs. Android.
I don't like iOS, because I don't like being nearly forced into iTunes. So for me, it's a really easy decision. I do have an iPad 1, which was a free gift from one of my business technology vendors. I like it for web browsing and streaming NetFlix. Fortunately, I can do these things just as well on an Android device, plus be able to stream Google music, and much more easily load content onto the device.
It is absolutely true that the Apple App Store has many more apps available - however, I don't care much because I don't use any of them. I use NetFlix, Hulu Plus, HBO Go, and the web browser. Again, all work just as well on an Android device.
I sold my iPad 2 32GB for £255 and bought a 16GB Nexus 7. I just got bored of iOS, it felt stale in the end. And I wont miss iTunes at all.
Also I think the 7" form factor will work better as the iPad just felt a little too heavy and cumbersome at times.
After debating back and forth for over a week, I finally bit the bullet and ordered the 16GB. 8GB storage in 2012 just isn't reasonable for me. I have way too much media.
Some good advice. Thanks.
I too find IOS constraining.
7" is more portable but without 3G, I can't just bring it out and have it working - and I know that I can tether but it is a hassle which reduces its utility.
"buy both" is an option. I just like shiny gadgets and so that is a good solution... if only I could grow some more arms then I could use multiple devices at once !
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"buy both" is an option. I just like shiny gadgets and so that is a good solution... if only I could grow some more arms then I could use multiple devices at once !
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This would be my preferred option too:good:
I will have both An iPad2 16GB and Nexus 7 16GB. They'll each have their purposes. I will love them both equally
I can't get an iPad. I don't look good in a mock turtleneck.
And you'll look good with big glasses instead?

Fire HD or galaxy tab 2?

I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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Its a big "it depends"
If you're a prime member, that's a huge + for the kfhd
Its much easier to have a normal android experience on the tab2, but the specs are a lot lower. If you're willing to deal with rooting to get play on the KFHD and dodging amazons updates that break root the KFHD is better device. Or if you don't care about the full android experience and just want to consume media, the KFHD is great. I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you.
Tab2 wouldn't be my first choice unless you got one of those crazy black friday deals on it for a 10" tablet in that price range though. I'd be more likely to compare the tf300t. Much better SOC and cheaper.
Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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Mr. bird said:
I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
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Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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I'd tell you to look into the nook hd+ if you're rooting for sure, it has the SD slot, cheaper, but no camera. Can't tell you what the progress is on root though.
jmandawg said:
why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
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I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Mr. bird said:
I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Was it an ipad 1? IMO the ipad 3 i have is worlds above the kindle fire HD, except for the price. The kindle is going to be even more limited and slow than an ipad 2-4. Samsung has been known to not updating their software so i'd recommend a nexus tablet if you want to go android.
I returned my kindle. Right now i have a nexus 7 and an Ipad 3. The ipad 3 works so good it's kinda boring, the nexus is completely open and there are alot of mods you can do to it. At this point i would not recommend a kindle unless you really like the amazon interface. CM10 looks like it's coming soon, but there will be lots of bugs, and you have to wait.
Maybe not exactly the info you're looking for, but here's my experience with the various manufacturers..
My current round up of devices include:
1. NookTablet
2. NookTouch
3. Moto Xoom (gave to Dad, but I still maintain)
4. Sammy Galaxy Tab 2 7"
5. Asus/Google Nexus 7
6. Kindle Fire 8.9 (just got this week; they had a $50 off deal one day)
7. Sammy Note I (phone)
4,5, and 6 are the only "current" models; all the other have newer versions.
They all have their pro and cons...here's my opinion on some of them.
Overall, the Nexus 7 is the winner.
If you're looking to run custom roms, the N7 has the widest selection and (more importantly) most active development community.
It also has the fastest proc of the bunch.
Its one real drawback, as you and others mentioned, is that it does not have expandable memory.
The Gtab2/7"..the 4 things it has over the N7:
1. Rear camera
2. Expandable storage
3. I/R blaster
4. A lot cheaper (I've seen refurbs on woot! twice now)
It also has a good selection of custom roms, but the dev community isn't as active as the N7...and that's only going to get worse as time goes on.
It is noticeably slower than the N7!
If you run any rom not based off of Samsung's rom, you lose the I/R blaster.
It's not that much of a loss because the available I/R remote control software sucks.
I've used the rear (and front camera) not more than a handful of times.
As for the Nook:
I would only recommend a Nook if you happen to frequent B&N stores often. Or you have already purchased e-books/magazines through them.
Their stock rom allows you to read any book while in store.
Their "Nook Kids" is available as an app for iOS, but not available for any Android devices except their own Nooks.
From my experience their Kids apps are nothing more than a larger selection of kids books, and they allow you to record yourself while reading the book.
I've run custom roms on it and ended putting the stock rom back on (rooted and Google Play installed of course)
As for the Kindle:
I would recommend if you have already purchased e-books/magazines through Amazon and/or have an Amazon Prime account.
Amazon (AFAIK) doesn't allow you to stream any video through android devices except their own Kindle Fires.
So as a Prime member, I was able to watch Fringe for the first time last night (a title not available on NetFlix).
You can also "check out" a lot of books without purchasing them.
I did root and get the Google Play store installed on this too.
I most likely won't be installing any custom roms on it.
Not because I like the Amazon UI or anything...but simpy because:
With both the Nook and the Kindle, you get value added services (like being able to read books in store and streaming content not available on other devices/roms)
So for me personally, I'm a big Amazon user, and am digging my 8.9 and the Prime features.
If I was looking for best specs and most open, I'd probably get an Nexus 10
Geekybiker said it best: " I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you. "
I own a GT 2 7, and theres a catch about the SD memory expansion and is that you cant install applications or application data on the SD; not at least on stock rom; the expansion its only useful for media (music, movies, docs, book, etc..) not for apps.
Regards.
It all depends on the features you want now, and or later.
If you like The Fire HD, it has amazing dual speakers and is a great multimedia device, but is limited at the moment due to the Amazon ecosystem. But both the 8.9" and 7" variants, are having custom roms being developed for them, because the bootloaders have been cracked. So if your willing to wait for the goodies, then go with the Kindle Fire HD.
If you want something with more of a all around Android Experience now go with the Galaxy Tab. In my overall Opinion if it maters, pick the Kindle Fire HD either model size.
I ended up ordering the gtab 2 10.1 I want the expandable storage for movies and pics. 16gb is fine for The rest. Thanks to everyone for their input.
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[Q] Reviews about Kindle fire hd 7" :)

Hi, I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Fire 7 hd, but I want to know how it works, if it is quick and development if have a lot or not! Thanks for your reviews
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If you are thinking of buying a new Kindle Fire, wait a month or two and there should be a new one. Otherwise, you can read reviews from Sept 2012.
Amazon is running a sale on the fire HD 7" - I ordered one last night and it was here when I woke up a little while ago.
I really like it so far, though all I have done was put a screen protector on it as soon as I opened it and turned it on/worked through setup.
The display is nice and crisp, the screen responsive.
I got it to take advantage of the stuff being amazon prime gives me - streaming video and so on while out and about, as I travel around the country for work. I generally don't want to lug my computer around where the tablet is nice and small.
Obviously here is the first place I come as i'd like to root and get the play store on to add my years of apps to it.
I've been with a variety of (at the time) high end android devices now, so at first blush in the hour i've owned it as my own, and not some display model, i'm very satisfied for the price. ($159 free shipping, direct from amazon.)
Edit:
It's nice how well it works with the amazon services, it was easy to manage my kindle account on the amazon site, and transfer the changes to the kindle.
It's also nice that they have my 'free app of the day' apps from the amazon app store going all the way back to 2011, so win there.
It's snappy and responsive, and I didn't know it had bluetooth - honestly didn't know much about it before pulling the trigger on purchase. I figured best case would be a halfway decent viewing device for amazon prime media.
Turns out this little tablet is a lot better then I thought it would be. Even if I wasn't going to root it and break out of the amazon cage the presentation of it all and what it was designed to do is really well done.
Thanks for answer me so this tablet is cool
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