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Goodbye NOOK community.

Unfortunately i have had to exchange my nook two times. I thought the third one would work. But today I returned it and the accessories. Are there any other tablets one would reccomend sans Galaxy Tab. I realize most (if not all) of you don't give a **** about this post. But I just want to see peoples input. I may buy an NC again in the future once a new hardware revision comes out. Goodbye again.
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I surely would waste my money on a galaxy tablet I had 1 and its etremely crappy waste of money no matter how you flash it or what you do to it doesn't matter it still junk.
Laggy browser multi touch slow tiling in the browser Go to sleep while watching youtube videos on and on
Definitely not worth 600 dollars
I would buy a viewsonic g tablets and root the hell out of it before I would buy another galaxy

Third one is working for me. Too bad you didn't have any luck.
Have you looked at the Velocity Micro Cruz Tablets? Same price, but don't know any details about the hardware.
Good luck,
kev

jackjumper85 said:
Unfortunately i have had to exchange my nook two times. I thought the third one would work. But today I returned it and the accessories. Are there any other tablets one would reccomend sans Galaxy Tab. I realize most (if not all) of you don't give a **** about this post. But I just want to see peoples input. I may buy an NC again in the future once a new hardware revision comes out. Goodbye again.
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What was the problem with each tablet, individually?

I too haven't had any luck. My first Nookcolor wouldn't turn on or reset after I plugged it in to charge. The second one would randomly reboot, reload or freeze. B&N are sending me a third one. My cousin bought her nookcolor on release date and she has never had to reset or soft reset hers.

3g...no thanks

Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
Archos 70 or 101. Tempted to sell my NC for the 101.
Sent from Nook Color.

khaytsus said:
What was the problem with each tablet, individually?
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First one - usb port was jacked up (like smashed)
Second one - Volume buttons broken
Third one - Defective digitizer
Sent from my rooted HTC EVO 4G.

Were you having the digitizer problems while plugged into the charger? This seems to be a common issue that is actually caused by the charger itself. I know you already returned your third Nook but maybe someone else will see this if they're having a similar problem. I have this same issue with my Nook and will be calling customer service to get a replacement shipped out. In the meantime i haven't had the need to use my device while it's charging due to the long battery life.
For those considering changing to a gtablet or archos i can only say that i owned an archos 101 and returned it due to its horrible screen and build quality. I have also used a gtablet and it was quite heavy and also had a very poor screen. However, there's no denying that it has pretty powerful hardware and performs well when you ditch the stock software for a custom rom.
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My third Nook is on it's way... First two had cracked screen! :|

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
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I've heard good things about this one too. If I had to buy one right now, this would probably be it. Otherwise, I'd wait for the NotionInk Adam.

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. Crappy out of the box.
Archos 70 or 101. Tempted to sell my NC for the 101.
Sent from Nook Color.
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Hmm (quick look at Viewsonic web page and Amazon) ... twice the price for 7 or 10 inch, slower and way less onboard memory, what's not to love? Web cam, BT and Froyo are there also there, OK some things.
Homer

ianandamy said:
I surely would waste my money on a galaxy tablet I had 1 and its etremely crappy waste of money no matter how you flash it or what you do to it doesn't matter it still junk.
Laggy browser multi touch slow tiling in the browser Go to sleep while watching youtube videos on and on
Definitely not worth 600 dollars
I would buy a viewsonic g tablets and root the hell out of it before I would buy another galaxy
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I hear ya, surprised the fanbois insecure in their purchase haven't popped up yet to cry foul though.
Anyways, I'd wait. CES is coming and supposedly alot of new tablets will be demoed with actual release dates not too far out... i.e. I'm not even going to recommend a rooted/custom fw'ed gTab. (It is fast(browses almost as well as my MSI GT725 P8600 2.4GHz/ATI 4850 mobility), but you never know something with a better stock fw might be on the way...)
I'm kind of in the OP's position, as my first NC came OOB w/a borked USB port and I had a b!tch of a time getting them to exchange it. No wonder that B&N are in trouble with that kind of QA & CS... Exchange unit is doing OK now, so I plan to keep it unless something happens to this one before 14d are up, in which case I'm going to have to think hard about another exchange or just flat out return. Their crap CS is making me lean to return as it was the very worst CS experience that I've ever had in my life.
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Do NOT buy the Cruz Craplet. It uses a non-standard MIPS CPU in the SoC unlike every single other recent device that uses ARM based SoCs. Also their reader is just an overpriced white Pandigital Novel. The fws are nearly directly exchangeable.
Archos: beware of 256MB of RAM in those, and their current froyo build underclocks their CPU to 800MHz plus they tooketh away features that were in their 2.1 build... (mainly some codecs that they want you to buy now, or so I gather). The RAM is a limiting factor in app usage and potential further OS upgrades, so I'd look for devices with a minimum of 512MB of RAM onboard. (I'd also REALLY like to see easily user replaceable batteries.... but...)
Notion Ink: I'd wait and see on those guys. More like until they release their next tablet(see if they survive) and see if they fix their crappy warranty & shipping & return policies and/or get into B&M so that you can see/try BEFORE you buy...
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I went from an Archos 101 to a NC and I definitely second the comment about the ram. 256MB just isn't enough for me - lockups and freezes are common when you do anything interesting with it. My dad ended up the Archos for Christmas for checking sports scores and emails and stuff and he loves it so far.
The latest Archos gen8 firmware allows you to bump the speed back up to 1GHz, so that's not an issue. The A101's screen (TN versus IPS) and touch sensor (tested via fruit ninja) are crap next to the NC's. As far as video playback goes, the A101 runs rings around the poor NC. Everything just played. Lack of bluetooth sucks on the NC, but hopefully "they" will fix that for us soon.
My NC has a single dead pixel smack in the middle of the screen, but it's definitely not worth the hassle of a return.
EDIT: I forgot about the terrible wireless on the A101. As of 2.0.71 firmware WPA2 AES finally works, but it's not as stable as wireless on the NC. On the other hand, the A101 neatly beats the NC on battery life.

bugeyed1 said:
Third one is working for me. Too bad you didn't have any luck.
Have you looked at the Velocity Micro Cruz Tablets? Same price, but don't know any details about the hardware.
Good luck,
kev
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Was contemplating getting a cruz tab but from what I read, it has slow mips processor which stops market access. The reviews also said it had build issues. I'm happy with my galaxy tab and my wife is happy with her nc, she still won't let me root her nc lol
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i agree wait until CES is done. Lots of Android tabs coming out. It's unfortunate at the problems some are having. I have 2 NC's and no problems. For the money, the NC is hard to beat. I would not get the Galaxy tab as it is overpriced IMHO.

Been followign the CES and pre-CES launch announcements, and I would say hang on til june and get one of the Asus Tablets. They will retail between $399-$499 depending on model (the 7", which includes a capacitve stylus and ap suite to take advantage of it, and the 10" slider models are $499, the 10" tablet that has an optional keyboard dock is $399). The LG tablet is another that is on the horizon that looks very promising.
In fact, CES now has me second guessing whether or not I will get a NC.

leeh41 said:
Viewsonic g tablet if you are into custom Roms. .
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I had one....terrible screen....I returned it. Loving my nook

fwdixon said:
. They will retail between $399-$499 depending on model (the 7", which includes a capacitve stylus and ap suite to take advantage of it, and the 10" slider models are $499, the 10" tablet that has an optional keyboard dock is $399). The LG tablet is another that is on the horizon that looks very promising.
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That's $150 - $250 more than the NC for an Android tablet.
That and I would never spend that kind of cash on a tablet with a mobile OS. Say what you want, but Android, iOS, WM7 are all still just phone/hand held operating systems.

For the record: first unit had a borked USB port, and the second has 2 defective pixels plus a backlight display defect near the top. No worries! I'm taking the second back to BestBuy and picking up a third on Sunday! I'll keep doing it 'til it's perfect. For $250 it's all that.
Sorry to hear that B&N customer service sucks. Anyway, Walmart is carrying them too now so options are good.
-Matt

Nookcolor thoughts after CES

Now with CES behind us but with thoughts of all those new tablets still fresh in our heads, anyone still think a rooted Nookcolor will be able to hold it's own against the tide that's coming.
Anyone with a rooted Nookcolor-will you still buy a tablet this year and if so which one, or will the Nookcolor still do.
I think the price point of the Nookcolor is it's greatest strength now.

I agree for $250, the NC can't be beat. Honeycomb on NC
I do plan on getting a new tab, maybe one of 10.1" running Honeycomb but don't know which one yet.

My opinion is...
The Nook is a book reading device first. Its a make shift tablet second.
It is not really fair to compare it to tablets that are designed to be tablets.
With that said, the newest thing is always around the corner. What is NOT around the corner is the hundreds more dollars for me to spend that these new devices cost as compared to the Nook.
Once the Nook gets a stable and functional Froyo, it will put it a very good advantage for at least the next year with app support.
It will take some time for Tegra2 to build up steam and drop in price. Meanwhile you have all of these older devices/tablets/cellphones still running older systems.
Just because 3.0 is coming up does not mean that all support will stop for the older devices. Developers would be foolish to stop supporting the older builds.
So, the answer for me is YES, the Nook is a great buy at this moment in time.

I have to agree with the price point being the NC's largest draw and strength. For $250 you can't get a better piece of hardware. Once we can get honeycomb (and by we I mean you people smarter than myself) on the NC we'll be flying high.

From what I have read, which may be BS, honeycomb will require dual processors to function properly, so I doubt nook color can handle it.
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There's always something "better" available "real soon now". I'd have to check, but none of the CES announcements included either a price for the device or a release date. Heck, the Adam took almost a year from CES to release, and even then it had a very limited release and still hasn't shipped. But you can go over to B&N and pick up a NC right now.

There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785

Oh, and if you don't know who Dan Morrill is...
http://www.google.com/profiles/morrildl

I just picked up a Nook Color for $180 from CL...but even at full price I didn't see anything that blew me away from CES. Sure the newer tablets will have better CPUs etc. but I doubt they will have the Screen quality of the NC at this price-point. For me what sold me on the NC is the ability to Root it, make it a very functional tablet (even if so claim its a book reader first, I think it makes an amazing tablet). I am one of the few that do not need a webcam etc. And let's not forget the amazing Screen quality!

CES Shows some really awesome looking devices but the market at the moment is pricing everything retardedly high. For the moment the $250 NC is the best bang for the buck for a simple Tablet. And I do fully expect to see a Honeycomb port in due time.
Untill the market gets saturated with actually good devices around the $300 price point and not the $499 point, (Especially the 3G only devices?! Not everyone wants or needs 3G!).

From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet. I would expect with the fact that Android is open, costs for these devices would be driven down significantly. However, the new crop of Android tablets are up there with Win OS tablets (almost), yet don't have a full featured OS.
I agree with spikey911 that this is an ereader first, Android tablet second. To me, having it run android apps is a benefit, not the primary reason I got it.
I would love a dual core or a Tegra 2 tablet. Would I pay more than $300 for one? Absolutely not. By the time that comes down in price, the next crop of the "greatest" comes out.
The only way I would upgrade to different tablet is if/when the Lenovo LePad/U1 comes down in price. Then I could chuck the NC and my Core 2 duo netbook.

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From my viewpoint:
The OS is sometimes the most expensive part of buying a PC/tablet.
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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging? I picked the nook color because the ability to root and the build quality was outstanding. Closest to that of the iPad. With the new crop of devices coming they are not bringing anything new, dual core yay but other than that what else. For those with nooks is 4-500 dollars worth a larger screen? What can you do on those that you cant do on the nook color? Also nook is still on 2.1 so with froyo there should be a slight speed increase.
Dont think anything from CES was mind blowing and would make me considering giving up my nook.

Outside of Android, Gigabyte just announced a reasonably nice Win7 Tablet with a N550 (duel core) and even a 320G HD supposidly aimed at the sub $300 market. If so with a reasonable capacitive screen it would be one of the first reasonable Win7 Tablets. For a device that has netbook specs it may be the first to finally get it that they need to be priced reasonable for the reasonable specs. Touchscreen replacement for a keyboard should not cost $200 more.

I'm still waiting patiently for the NC with 2G/3G... Anyone know when it will be out?

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That's the same thing i thought, but then how to you explain the galaxy tab? 600 bucks for what? Where they price gouging?
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I think that we are seeing the NC at razor thin markup (almost cost) due to the "razor/razor blades" marketing model that ebooks use. B&N expect to make all their money on book sales, not the hardware. Until we have a Tegra2 KindleIV to compare to, I doubt we'll know for sure

I'm not looking for my Nook to replace my laptop. The thing that got me is the performance/price and the big thing: not having a data plan. I don't understand who has the money to buy a $500 device and then pay $25-50/month for 24 months. I can buy a really nice laptop for $1100-1700.
Homer

For me the NC is a tablet first & an ereader second! At least that's the way I use it. IMO it has enough going on hardware wise that the only time that it is an ereader first, is that period of time between opening the box & rooting it! Just because it doesn't have a few hard keys, camera or GPS & USB host doesn't mean it is not a viable tablet. Actually, a rooted NC has more tablet functions than it does ereader functions. I am very happy with the NC without these features, as that kept the price where I could afford it. With it competing in the ereader market, B&N had to price it accordingly. If it had been competing as a tablet, it could have demanded a much higher price. I was not looking for a laptop replacement, just a more portable connected device that doesn't require a data contract.
Cheers,
kev

Best tablet for under $300. Once Froyo is successfully ported and BT able kernel it will be even better. There is no way you will find another 7" tablet with capacitance screen, 1024x600 res, 512MB RAM, 8GB Internal Storage for anywhere near this price. B&N is selling them at a low price to get people to buy their ebooks.
Rooted = WE WIN!
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911jason said:
There is no minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb.
http://twitter.com/#!/morrildl/status/22845294886518785
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Glad it was BS.
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duloz said:
Glad it was BS.
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I am not convinced that not having some pretty strong minimum hardware specs is a good thing. Microsoft was pretty smart by setting the bar high on their Win Phone 7 units. I think the Android community would benefit from having some specs that ensure that a tablet or phone will perform fast and smooth. You know that Apple will increase their specs for the next iPad and it will suck if honeycomb runs poorly on previous gen tablets.

First genuine Nook Color competitor

Would you look at that... somebody actually gets the appeal of the nook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/lenovo-announces-ideapad-a1-the-199-android-tablet-we-go-hand/
7" 1024x600 screen, $200. Dont see anything on the other specs, but unlike most competitors the screen is there.

Jotokun said:
Would you look at that... somebody actually gets the appeal of the nook
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/lenovo-announces-ideapad-a1-the-199-android-tablet-we-go-hand/
7" 1024x600 screen, $200. Dont see anything on the other specs, but unlike most competitors the screen is there.
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I saw this earlier too.... sounds *real* familiar overall. It's even running Gingerbread, a la CM7, etc. It will be interesting to see how it does, but it comes off sort of like a slightly tweaked, slightly more mainstream CM7 NC. It's kind of a credit to the NC that this thing is coming out a year+ later for a similar price point and doesn't really blow it away, as far as I can tell.

The story also doesn't talk about the display quality. If it is on par with the NC, then maybe...
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PC World is listing the processor as a single core 1Ghz Cortex A8 and 2GB internal memory. Only info so far on the screen is that it's Capacitive touch with a 1024x600 resolution. Still no info on any kind of hardware acceleration which can make or break it as a media player.
Edit: They do mention a GPS receiver, which is rather interesting.

Looks pretty sweet! $200 is definitely the right price point.
Has advantages over the NC - camera, GPS
You can buy a refurb NC for $170 these days though.
Also article says the 8GB model will not be for sale in the USA. 16GB model will at $249.

Unless the screen and battery are total lemons, I would say the 16GB model blows the NC out of the water going head-to-head at $250 retail. Of course, it would be a little ridiculous to buy a NC at full retail right now, this late in the production cycle and with full-warranty refurbs fast approaching the $150 mark.
The recent Vizio tablet is also a decent contender in the NC's retail range and nearly the same form factor.

I'm digging that widget in the middle of the screen. Anyone know what it is?

caifan said:
I'm digging that widget in the middle of the screen. Anyone know what it is?
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I would guess it's a proprietary UI element, but it may just be a pre-loaded market widget.

Taosaur said:
Unless the screen and battery are total lemons, I would say the 16GB model blows the NC out of the water going head-to-head at $250 retail.
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Um, well, except for the fact that probably 95% of the people who buy a NC buy it because it's an eReader with apps.

khaytsus said:
Um, well, except for the fact that probably 95% of the people who buy a NC buy it because it's an eReader with apps.
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Which has little bearing on the question of whether said "eReader with apps" is comparable in value to an almost identical device with several advantages, nor on the question of whether a year-old and decreasingly unique piece of electronics is still worth the initial retail price.
Or are you simply arguing that B&N can continue selling NCs for $250 on the basis of consumer ignorance?

Hmm... if i ever upgrade I might hold out for Sammy's 7.7" super amoled with GPS and 0.7 pound weight and 10 hour batt life. But only at $250!

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Which has little bearing on the question of whether said "eReader with apps" is comparable in value to an almost identical device with several advantages, nor on the question of whether a year-old and decreasingly unique piece of electronics is still worth the initial retail price.
Or are you simply arguing that B&N can continue selling NCs for $250 on the basis of consumer ignorance?
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I'm obviously saying that the vast majority of people who want an eReader aren't getting a tablet, and vise versa.

The price point to beat will be the one that Amazon sets with its new tablet. If a decent tablet from a known company is available below that price point, that can use the kindle app and nook app, then consumers will catch on. The real issue however is that Lenovo has no stake in an app store or media store, so they can't afford to lose money on hardware, while Amazon and B&N can.

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I'm digging that widget in the middle of the screen. Anyone know what it is?
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That's the Lenovo Launcher, a custom widget that comes on all their tablets.

colorado_al said:
The price point to beat will be the one that Amazon sets with its new tablet. If a decent tablet from a known company is available below that price point, that can use the kindle app and nook app, then consumers will catch on. The real issue however is that Lenovo has no stake in an app store or media store, so they can't afford to lose money on hardware, while Amazon and B&N can.
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Supposedly Amazon's tablet will be a $250 7" 6GB tablet with wifi, negotiating 3g/4g. There's some rumor that 3g access will be "free" (along with 1 year Amazon Prime free membership) but... man that's a lot of bandwidth to be giving away free for a tablet.
No camera, and also apparently no HC --- "a system prior to 2.2".
Personally I'm not really all that jazzed, kind of disappointed at the mediocre (so far) specs.
The articles should be filtering in for this about now.

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Supposedly Amazon's tablet will be a $250 7" 6GB tablet with wifi, negotiating 3g/4g. There's some rumor that 3g access will be "free" (along with 1 year Amazon Prime free membership) but... man that's a lot of bandwidth to be giving away free for a tablet.
No camera, and also apparently no HC --- "a system prior to 2.2".
Personally I'm not really all that jazzed, kind of disappointed at the mediocre (so far) specs.
The articles should be filtering in for this about now.
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I read that this morning too. I'm sure they will sell a lot due to brand recognition, but it sounds like they're late to the party with that one. The NC is essentially the same, but has been out for a year. And it sounds like they are readying a new one.
Too bad. I was hoping for better hardware at a subsidized price. The Lenovo looks much better than the Amazon Tab.

Don't know how credible it is, but this was posted over on mobileread:
Dulin's Books said:
The AmTab will have a AFFS lcd panels provided by Hydis which is a subsidiary of PrimeView/Eink Holdings http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_03.asp
AFFS or Advanced Fringe Field Switching Displasy are a Hydis patented tech which produces bright displays with very good color and 180 degree viewing angles with lower power usage then similar size IPS displays
http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_03.asp
http://www.hydis.com/eng/04_rnd/rnd_02.asp
http://www.boehydis.de/techno/techno.html?reload_coolmenus
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So, it sounds like at least a minor screen improvement over the NC, but maybe this also explains the rumors of B&N acquiring "e-paper backing" from eInk for the next-gen NC.

Wow free 3g!
Ill buy this or the amazon tab if theres a 250gb HD like the Archos tabs. I need that space to replace my ipod classic sometime...

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Ill buy this or the amazon tab if theres a 250gb HD like the Archos tabs. I need that space to replace my ipod classic sometime...
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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a 250GB tablet from any of the top tier manufacturers. The 8/16/32GB flash memory model seems to be pretty much standardized now. Some of the lower-end, fringe companies like Archos might come out with hard-drive based tablets, but the big guys won't.
Amazon certainly won't, because they want you to use their cloud services to store your MP3s, and putting a huge storage capacity in their tablet would be counterproductive for that goal.

The best we can expect in terms of storage is 64GB SDXC support and/or multiple SD slots. The Lenovo actually has one micro and one standard SDHC slots, creating the potential for 16/32GB internal + 32GB uSD + 32GB SD = up to 96GB storage for a total of around $400 (less if you have the cards on hand), which is pretty massive by tablet standards.
As has been said, though, tablets and the mobile OSes they run are better optimized for cloud computing than managing substantial quantities of files locally.
ETA: honestly, if this thing materializes and reports on performance and screen quality are positive, I may consider it as a trade up from my NC.

[Q] Upgrading to a tablet under $300?

I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.

Wait for NEXUS 7 at Google IO
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Get the Nexus 7. I love my Nook Color but sadly it's Specs have officially been labeled outdated by the Nexus 7. For $200/250 You get a Quad-Core CPU, 12core GPU, 8/16gb of Storage, 1gb RAM, WiFi, Bluetooth(With an actual Antenna), NFC, $25 Google Play credit, Tons of Preloaded Apps, Android 4.1 Jellybean. The list is just pure beauty. If you have $200 to burn then this is THE Tablet to get now. Amazon and B&N just got one-upped Big Time. Nexus 7 ships Mid-July and is available for PreOrder from the Google Play store: HERE

Hoser88 said:
I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
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Well, you said full-size. There is the (discontinued) TouchPad, which is 10" or so, and you can get those pretty cheap.
They run CM9 pretty well, I have to say. (full disclosure: I helped port it). My big issue with the touchpad is I'm not a fan of the size, and it's a little thick/heavy.

If by full size, you mean a 10.1" tablet, then your options are very limited. The really good 10inch tablets start at about $350 (the 16GB Asus TF300 can be had for a twenty bucks more than that).
Alternatively, if you're not looking for something cutting edge, then there are plenty of refurbished last-year models going around for less than $300. Acer is selling refurbished A500 units for as little as $229 on its eBay store, and if you keep an eye open on sites like techbargains.com for similar deals that come and go.
(Refurbished might be a bit of a gamble, but it's paid off handsomely for me in the past -- bought my Nook Color that way too. Buying direct from the manufacturer helps though. Just make sure they really are refurbished and not "pre-owned".)
Finally (at the risk of raising the ire of the Android gods, you can also get a refurbished iPad 2 for $319 from Apple, which isn't a bad price either.
But if you could stretch a little beyond $300, and want something new, then I think the Asus TF300 is probably your best bet at the moment. There might be some downward pressure on 10-inch prices with the introduction of the HD models (the Acer A700 is only $450, which is the same price as the lower-def A510, so that has to drop) but I haven't seen anything yet.

I would definitely go with the Nexus 7. I planned on selling my Nook and HP Touchpad to get one.

Nexus 7 would be stunning if Google included a mSD slot. Looks gr8 as is, not stunning though.

Which one would you prefer, the nexus 7 or a galaxy tab plus 16gb wifi only? The last ones are at $237.90 refurbished at amazon. The GT+ will receive a software upgrade, so the only differences will be the ir blaster, back camera, sd slot, screen resolution, NFC (don't know what it is ) and the chipset. Which one would you prefer?
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umm...Nexus 7...
quad core Tegra 3 processor, 12 core GPU, NFC (wireless data transfer that is more secure than bluetooth) and a whole bunch more goodies...
plus it comes with 4.1 installed...
all at a low low price of $199...
can't beat it

Several sources say Google doesn't take any margin on the product, so you are basically paying the manufacturer price for the Nexus 7 (and any required warranty by law). There won't be anyone beating that for a while.
Oh, and it weighs the same as the Nook Color/Tablet

The only bummer I see is that adobe flash won't be officially supported (if I didn't misunderstood), but since the N7 may be the next developers tab I think it will be somehow updated by devs.
The lack of sd slot almost made me not to be interested on it but when I reviewed the GT+ vs Transformer Prime reviews and benchmarks I got convinced, the Prime is just to fast. If I get the N7 I will buy the 16gb version, 8gb it's just to little (like the Nook Color's memory).
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Looking at getting a 7" tablet. Google or Amazon

For Christmas I received $100 in Amazon gift cards. I have been playing with getting a tablet since the last generation Kindle. Now that I have $100 my wife is more open to me getting a tablet.
I have it down to the Kindle and Google Nexus. I know I can not get the Nexus from Amazon though.
I have been rooting phones for over a year and loading custom ROMs. I see for the Kindle I need root to get the play store like I have to root to put Amazon on my phone.
Kind of disappointed the Kindle does not have GPS.
Is there any other downfalls to the Kindle? I see its performance is not as good as the Nexus. Wondering if Custom ROMs might tweak some of that.
Thanks for your help.
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I've got a Nexus 7, had several original KF and my wife just got a KFHD.
If you are missing the GPS... and plan on doing roms and such I would stick with the Nexus 7 which is ready to go pretty much out of the box. Unlocking/rooting is trivial as a Nexus device.
If you are planning on using Amazon Prime videos etc.. that is not really an option on the Nexus 7 (no Prime Video apps).
Really depends on what you are going to do with it.
My wife wants movies, books etc... I use my Nexus 7 for business. I can do those other things, but don't normally have time to read or watch movies.

Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.

I owned both and both are good tablets but I found myself keeping the Kindle. The Nexus is the better performer spec wise but the loud dual speakers, HDMI out, better screen and the wider bezel on the Kindle won me over.
BTW the performance difference really does go unnoticed unless you run a quadrant score.

veener79 said:
Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.
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I guess it's too late now, but... The Nexus 7s on Amazon are all being sold by third party retailers, with obscene markup.
Just from a glance, the cheapest one available right now is an 8GB model for $236. Google stopped selling the 8GB model in November, I think. Offering instead a 16GB model for $199. On Amazon, the 16GB model costs $250 or more. Google's Play Store offers a 32GB model for $250. On amazon, the 32 GB model costs $270, thus being actually the least offensive (to me), but still more than it should be.
When I was searching for a 7" tablet, I had $180 in Amazon gift cards... and those markups are a large part of why I picked up the KFHD (as well as the superior speakers, HDMI out, and Amazon Prime videos).
I really like this tablet. It's worth every cent; even more so, now that I've rooted it and put the Play store on it.
I hope you enjoy your Nexus 7, though.

Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.

Kindle fire hd hands down
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veener79 said:
Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.
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Hmm... hadn't thought about the shipping (too spoiled by Prime, I guess), or the tax (since I live in a state with no sales tax). Guess that $20 "premium" wasn't so bad as I thought.
...Although, that still doesn't excuse the prices on the 8 and 16 GB models (imo). :S

I agree with the prices for the 8 and 16gb models are nuts. The only one that is right is the 32gig. I have to pay tax with Google because they bought Motorola and they have a ton of offices close to me.

I know you got the Nexus, but I will still answer.
I got the Kindle Fire 2 from work. It's awful. Terrible battery life, the kindle OS is crap, and no way to get android on it that I can see.
From looking it up, 4x the processing speed, a better resolution display, and an already android JB device....
And I can get 3g if I want.
I have no idea WHY anyone would get a kindle. Mine was free, and I love free stuff, and I will hack and use this thing to death. Honestly though, if the nexus was $300 and the Kindle was $200, i would STILL get the nexus, that however, is not the case. It's $160 for the kindle....and $200 for the nexus. That's only $40 for an infinitely better device!
NOW, if you talk about the Fire HD, still the Nexus. My above is no longer as relevant, but here is the rundown
Nexus
-quad core
-8hours battery (claims by google)
-55 grams lighter! (340g)
HD
-Dual Core
-11hours battery (claims by Amazon)
-55 grams heavier (395g)
Side notes that I cannot claim as fact, but from Amazons own websites I cannot find proof that it has either
-NFC
-GPS
Now, I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't plan on using GPS. HOWEVER, I will use NFC a lot when I get a phone or tablet. For the tablet I plan to have an NFC set next to my second media monitor and have it turn on my wifi and open a remote app I use. I will also have an NFC thing in my case in my bag that will turns wifi, bluetooth, and gps off, as well as silencing the tablet.
I just think the nexus has more bang for your buck. However, the Kindle HD DOES have more battery life, CAN be hacked to run JB (that's why I didn't include it as a downside for the HD, I assume being here you know how to root and ROM it) so you shouldn't miss out much from apps. However, if you use the kindle for the Prime services, then you won't have the Google services so...I suppose that's user preference but I personally cannot live without a custom ROM, I feel suffocated heh.
Anyways, enjoy my two cents! Hope it can help someone!
TL;DR
Nexus- Yes, more for money
Kindle Fire HD- Yes, more battery, kindle services.
Kindle Fire 2- No, just, please don't. Do whatever you can for that extra $40 to get the nexus