[Q] Thoughts on KFHD with GAPPS and Alt Launchers - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone, now that the KFHD can run alternative launchers and access the play store, I'm wondering what your opinion is on the KFHD, specifically how does it compare to the Nexus 7. Now that the N7 got bumped to 16gb for $199 and the KFHD can run the play store and alt launchers I think they're pretty close. Any thoughts?

Unless you are invested in the Amazon ecosystem, I don't see the benefits of the KFHD over N7. Having said that, I'm KFHD fan and NOT a fan of the N7

IF you want the FULL Android experience, the KFHD is nothing but a half assed version. Even after root, gapps and alternative launcher.
IF you enjoy Amazon Media, have Amazon prime and invested in Amazon, then you will be happy with the KFHD.
I felt nothing but trapped and frustrated with the KFHD because I wanted the full android experience with FULLY functional gapps.
It varies between people and their needs and wants.
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WillysJeepMan said:
Unless you are invested in the Amazon ecosystem, I don't see the benefits of the KFHD over N7. Having said that, I'm KFHD fan and NOT a fan of the N7
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But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.

Not all apps are marked 'compatible' with the KFHD on the play store. Doesn't mean it won't work but you would still end up having to side load anyways.
Still not a deal breaker though, since it still brings much more to the table. Just throwing that out there in case people think the play store will automatically let you install all available apps.
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But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.
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However from this quote, you sound like you've made your mind and just looking to justify the purchase..
Just remember, if you want voice search, you won't have it. If you want Google now, you won't have it, if you want the latest and greatest Android software, you won't get it. The only way would be through a custom rom. Headway is being made but it's still in early development, but you need to keep in mind that you will probably have to choose between Amazon and Android ROMs.
Choose what you think you'll be happy with.
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alkemist80 said:
Not all apps are marked 'compatible' with the KFHD on the play store. Doesn't mean it won't work but you would still end up having to side load anyways.
Still not a deal breaker though, since it still brings much more to the table. Just throwing that out there in case people think the play store will automatically let you install all available apps.
However from this quote, you sound like you've made your mind and just looking to justify the purchase..
Just remember, if you want voice search, you won't have it. If you want Google now, you won't have it, if you want the latest and greatest Android software, you won't get it. The only way would be through a custom rom. Headway is being made but it's still in early development, but you need to keep in mind that you will probably have to choose between Amazon and Android ROMs.
Choose what you think you'll be happy with.
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Actually I haven't made up my mind yet, and I didn't realize that not all play store apps are compatible. Thanks for this info this is actually exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for. Keep it coming!

kthung said:
Actually I haven't made up my mind yet, and I didn't realize that not all play store apps are compatible. Thanks for this info this is actually exactly the type of stuff I'm looking for. Keep it coming!
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Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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shook187 said:
Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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Yikes that might be a deal breaker. I really like the 7" form factor as a media consumption device (reading RSS feeds, streaming videos from a network drive, youtube, etc.). I do like the N7 but the speakers kinda suck and dual-band wifi would be nice. Any other serious bugs?

The speakers on the KFHD were awesome, wish I could have them. I do however use an app called music volume eq which is free from the play store. It's actually pretty amazing, especially with headphones. IMO it sounds even better than the zune software player through my PC and headphones. But if you just want straight up great sound without the use of headphones, KFHD would win in that department.
The KFHD is slightly wider and heavier than the N7. Being a woman and having smaller hands, the slight difference still makes the N7 more comfortable and easier to hold. People say the N7 fits nicely in (larger) pant, coat or dress shirt pockets. I haven't done that myself. The KFHD feels bulkier but it feels solid. I read people stated that the N7 felt cheap but I was shocked when I opened the box. It felt nice to me and no cheapness feel at all, but still not as solid as the KFHD, it has a much larger bezel.
There are some build complaints about the N7, though some of it makes me wonder if it's just nerd OCD or misuse. Anyways, it's advised to find a later build date C9O was the most current. I have a C8O which was perfect out of the box. The number corresponds to the manufacturer calendar month.
It can be a tough choice. If you have the extra $$, you can get both locally, play with them for a week to decide and return the one you don't want. Just find a store that doesn't ask questions about returns and no restocking fee.
I love my N7 but I try to stay neutral in these respects. However between these two forum sections, the KFHD gets very little traffic. Maybe more once the boot strap is functional but right now the N7 is winning. They are selling about a million a month according to Asus.
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kthung said:
But my point is that you can get the Play store working on the KFHD so the Amazon ecosystem vs. Google Play Store is a non-factor now, as is the 8 GB vs 16 GB since they are now both priced at $199 for 16 GB.
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Yes, I understood your point. But why go through all the hassle of rooting the KFHD (and run the risk of having it unrooted at the next update), adding a custom launcher (that may not work 100% correctly) when for the same price you can get a device that simply works out of the box?
I own a TON of tablet devices, included in the mix is a 16GB KFHD and Samsung GTab 2 7.0. I love 'em all, but if I had to pick one to be a general purpose tablet it would NOT be a KFHD. I've "specialized" my KFHD to be "media consumption only". CBZ/CBR books, videos (MX Player is terrific), and music (UberMusic w/Zune skin is beautiful). My KFHD is NOT rooted but I do use ADW Launcher EX.

shook187 said:
Youtube also works half ass. Can't login into account and sometimes it hangs for no apparent reason.
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youtube works good for me. Login and everything. You just need to install googleloginservices.apk for it to function properly
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Is the Nexus 7 right for me?

In my entire phone history, I have only ever owned and used 2 Android devices - the HTC Desire (with its awful amount of storage) and now the Samsung Galaxy Note. My Note is a fantastic behemoth of a phone, and perhaps even a tablet, but the Nexus 7 still appeals to me. As I like to not waste battery life of my phone, I'm not in a position to always use it heavily as I may need it to last the rest of the day rather than have it burn out after five hours of film watching in the morning. A tablet sounds appealing since I feel I no longer need a laptop besides for the occasional piece of homework where I shall need a keyboard and spend the majority of my time just on Facebook, the XDA forums, Blogger, YouTube and other basic web services. So, do you think the Nexus 7 is any good for me?
I think so, the only concern you should have is whether the small screen size jump justifies a new device. If you are fine with owning a 5in and 7in device, this seems like a nice product to do all your browsing on so you are not sucking the phone dry.
The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.
Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?
Just wait till the end of July, hold it in your hands and decide for yourself and live with no regrets.
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ky0nkyon said:
Just wait till the end of July, hold it in your hands and decide for yourself and live with no regrets.
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But, how will I be able to hold it in my hands? Is it going to be available in shops?
Brad387 said:
Do you think the extra 8GB to 16GB is worth the extra £41 GBP or so?
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I'd say yes
Jordanooo said:
I'd say yes
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I'm going to hold off on it for now. I don't really have the money and 2 inches isn't enough to warrant another device. My Galaxy Note is pretty great...
Brad387 said:
The screen jump size is pretty minimal and, in my mind, I find it hard to justify. Whilst I don't take my phone to school, however, I do like for it to last the day and giving it the intense usage of a tablet it just won't manage that. I brought the Note to purposely save the cost of a tablet also, yet this Nexus 7 seems an absolute bargain with pretty good specification. Plus, I suspect it'll have some great support and the idea of a pure Google experience interests me.
Also, is it possible to have multiple user profiles through different Google accounts on Android? As my family and I may split the costs, yet we wouldn't want each other accessing our Google accounts.
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I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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trud9340 said:
I was also curious about the mulitple profiles idea. It would be great if my wife and I could have different profiles that store credentials, bookmarks, favorite apps, etc. Anyone have insight on this?
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I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.
Do people here think it is worth it or not?
It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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ky0nkyon said:
It'll be in shops a week after preordered units are shipped out according to some sources. They say just the 16gb though as the 8gb will only be available in the play store
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Okay. Still can't decide whether to buy this or not. I could just install Paranoid Android, which will allow me to run apps in tablet or phone mode, onto my Note and then there would be just 2 inches screen difference. Yet, a pure Google experience without the risk of flashing and the latest Android version all seems really appealing to me. I suppose it'll take me a while to safe up the cash anyway, which will give me time to think.
I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.
thebobp said:
I think the size difference is too small to be worth it. Plus the 8-16 GB limitation. You already have a device that can pretty much double up as a tablet for all the things you posted about. Just get an extra battery (and/or the 5400 mah one) and you'll be good to go.
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I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.
Brad387 said:
I'd love for Google to implement this themselves on tablet versions of Jelly Bean, as in my opinion tablets are a device used by more than one person unlike a phone. Yet, if I were to buy a tablet, I'd feel uncomfortable letting my family use it cause I don't want them accessing my YouTube, Gmail and all my accounts that are tied to the tab.
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Try an app called "app lock", it's really useful for stopping people accessing apps with your personal info when you let them borrow your phone/tablet.
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Brad387 said:
I think so too. I'm looking into Paranoid Android, which will allow me to actually run tablet apps. Hopefully that'll help a bit. On a side note, do you think there'll be much of a performance difference between the Nexus 7 and Note?
Note has dual-core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
Nexus 7 has quad-core clocked at 1.3Ghz.
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The difference will be massive (from what i've heard) because of jellybean's "project butter". So the question is when the devs make jellybean available for you.
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I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!
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I am not sure whether I "need" one either. I already have a MacBook Pro, a SGS2 and a iPad 3 wifi only. Any idea what I should do, I really want one to experience some Jelly Bean!
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The question is, do you use your iPad often? If not then what's the point? I'm pretty sure that sooner or later (if not already) there will be a port of Jelly Bean for you SGS2.
If you really want it that bad for no reason, why not just sell you iPad then buy the Nexus 7. You'll be gaining money too that way

Fire HD or galaxy tab 2?

I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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Its a big "it depends"
If you're a prime member, that's a huge + for the kfhd
Its much easier to have a normal android experience on the tab2, but the specs are a lot lower. If you're willing to deal with rooting to get play on the KFHD and dodging amazons updates that break root the KFHD is better device. Or if you don't care about the full android experience and just want to consume media, the KFHD is great. I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you.
Tab2 wouldn't be my first choice unless you got one of those crazy black friday deals on it for a 10" tablet in that price range though. I'd be more likely to compare the tf300t. Much better SOC and cheaper.
Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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Mr. bird said:
I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
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why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
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Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
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I'd tell you to look into the nook hd+ if you're rooting for sure, it has the SD slot, cheaper, but no camera. Can't tell you what the progress is on root though.
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why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
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I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Mr. bird said:
I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
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Was it an ipad 1? IMO the ipad 3 i have is worlds above the kindle fire HD, except for the price. The kindle is going to be even more limited and slow than an ipad 2-4. Samsung has been known to not updating their software so i'd recommend a nexus tablet if you want to go android.
I returned my kindle. Right now i have a nexus 7 and an Ipad 3. The ipad 3 works so good it's kinda boring, the nexus is completely open and there are alot of mods you can do to it. At this point i would not recommend a kindle unless you really like the amazon interface. CM10 looks like it's coming soon, but there will be lots of bugs, and you have to wait.
Maybe not exactly the info you're looking for, but here's my experience with the various manufacturers..
My current round up of devices include:
1. NookTablet
2. NookTouch
3. Moto Xoom (gave to Dad, but I still maintain)
4. Sammy Galaxy Tab 2 7"
5. Asus/Google Nexus 7
6. Kindle Fire 8.9 (just got this week; they had a $50 off deal one day)
7. Sammy Note I (phone)
4,5, and 6 are the only "current" models; all the other have newer versions.
They all have their pro and cons...here's my opinion on some of them.
Overall, the Nexus 7 is the winner.
If you're looking to run custom roms, the N7 has the widest selection and (more importantly) most active development community.
It also has the fastest proc of the bunch.
Its one real drawback, as you and others mentioned, is that it does not have expandable memory.
The Gtab2/7"..the 4 things it has over the N7:
1. Rear camera
2. Expandable storage
3. I/R blaster
4. A lot cheaper (I've seen refurbs on woot! twice now)
It also has a good selection of custom roms, but the dev community isn't as active as the N7...and that's only going to get worse as time goes on.
It is noticeably slower than the N7!
If you run any rom not based off of Samsung's rom, you lose the I/R blaster.
It's not that much of a loss because the available I/R remote control software sucks.
I've used the rear (and front camera) not more than a handful of times.
As for the Nook:
I would only recommend a Nook if you happen to frequent B&N stores often. Or you have already purchased e-books/magazines through them.
Their stock rom allows you to read any book while in store.
Their "Nook Kids" is available as an app for iOS, but not available for any Android devices except their own Nooks.
From my experience their Kids apps are nothing more than a larger selection of kids books, and they allow you to record yourself while reading the book.
I've run custom roms on it and ended putting the stock rom back on (rooted and Google Play installed of course)
As for the Kindle:
I would recommend if you have already purchased e-books/magazines through Amazon and/or have an Amazon Prime account.
Amazon (AFAIK) doesn't allow you to stream any video through android devices except their own Kindle Fires.
So as a Prime member, I was able to watch Fringe for the first time last night (a title not available on NetFlix).
You can also "check out" a lot of books without purchasing them.
I did root and get the Google Play store installed on this too.
I most likely won't be installing any custom roms on it.
Not because I like the Amazon UI or anything...but simpy because:
With both the Nook and the Kindle, you get value added services (like being able to read books in store and streaming content not available on other devices/roms)
So for me personally, I'm a big Amazon user, and am digging my 8.9 and the Prime features.
If I was looking for best specs and most open, I'd probably get an Nexus 10
Geekybiker said it best: " I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you. "
I own a GT 2 7, and theres a catch about the SD memory expansion and is that you cant install applications or application data on the SD; not at least on stock rom; the expansion its only useful for media (music, movies, docs, book, etc..) not for apps.
Regards.
It all depends on the features you want now, and or later.
If you like The Fire HD, it has amazing dual speakers and is a great multimedia device, but is limited at the moment due to the Amazon ecosystem. But both the 8.9" and 7" variants, are having custom roms being developed for them, because the bootloaders have been cracked. So if your willing to wait for the goodies, then go with the Kindle Fire HD.
If you want something with more of a all around Android Experience now go with the Galaxy Tab. In my overall Opinion if it maters, pick the Kindle Fire HD either model size.
I ended up ordering the gtab 2 10.1 I want the expandable storage for movies and pics. 16gb is fine for The rest. Thanks to everyone for their input.
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Looking at getting a 7" tablet. Google or Amazon

For Christmas I received $100 in Amazon gift cards. I have been playing with getting a tablet since the last generation Kindle. Now that I have $100 my wife is more open to me getting a tablet.
I have it down to the Kindle and Google Nexus. I know I can not get the Nexus from Amazon though.
I have been rooting phones for over a year and loading custom ROMs. I see for the Kindle I need root to get the play store like I have to root to put Amazon on my phone.
Kind of disappointed the Kindle does not have GPS.
Is there any other downfalls to the Kindle? I see its performance is not as good as the Nexus. Wondering if Custom ROMs might tweak some of that.
Thanks for your help.
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I've got a Nexus 7, had several original KF and my wife just got a KFHD.
If you are missing the GPS... and plan on doing roms and such I would stick with the Nexus 7 which is ready to go pretty much out of the box. Unlocking/rooting is trivial as a Nexus device.
If you are planning on using Amazon Prime videos etc.. that is not really an option on the Nexus 7 (no Prime Video apps).
Really depends on what you are going to do with it.
My wife wants movies, books etc... I use my Nexus 7 for business. I can do those other things, but don't normally have time to read or watch movies.
Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.
I owned both and both are good tablets but I found myself keeping the Kindle. The Nexus is the better performer spec wise but the loud dual speakers, HDMI out, better screen and the wider bezel on the Kindle won me over.
BTW the performance difference really does go unnoticed unless you run a quadrant score.
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Thanks. I found the Nexus on Amazon so I went for it and got it. It should be fun to have.
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I guess it's too late now, but... The Nexus 7s on Amazon are all being sold by third party retailers, with obscene markup.
Just from a glance, the cheapest one available right now is an 8GB model for $236. Google stopped selling the 8GB model in November, I think. Offering instead a 16GB model for $199. On Amazon, the 16GB model costs $250 or more. Google's Play Store offers a 32GB model for $250. On amazon, the 32 GB model costs $270, thus being actually the least offensive (to me), but still more than it should be.
When I was searching for a 7" tablet, I had $180 in Amazon gift cards... and those markups are a large part of why I picked up the KFHD (as well as the superior speakers, HDMI out, and Amazon Prime videos).
I really like this tablet. It's worth every cent; even more so, now that I've rooted it and put the Play store on it.
I hope you enjoy your Nexus 7, though.
Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.
Kindle fire hd hands down
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Yes but with Amazon it is free shipping and no tax. I paid the $270. Google I had to pay both. I saved about $15 going through Amazon. I was kind of shocked.
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Hmm... hadn't thought about the shipping (too spoiled by Prime, I guess), or the tax (since I live in a state with no sales tax). Guess that $20 "premium" wasn't so bad as I thought.
...Although, that still doesn't excuse the prices on the 8 and 16 GB models (imo). :S
I agree with the prices for the 8 and 16gb models are nuts. The only one that is right is the 32gig. I have to pay tax with Google because they bought Motorola and they have a ton of offices close to me.
I know you got the Nexus, but I will still answer.
I got the Kindle Fire 2 from work. It's awful. Terrible battery life, the kindle OS is crap, and no way to get android on it that I can see.
From looking it up, 4x the processing speed, a better resolution display, and an already android JB device....
And I can get 3g if I want.
I have no idea WHY anyone would get a kindle. Mine was free, and I love free stuff, and I will hack and use this thing to death. Honestly though, if the nexus was $300 and the Kindle was $200, i would STILL get the nexus, that however, is not the case. It's $160 for the kindle....and $200 for the nexus. That's only $40 for an infinitely better device!
NOW, if you talk about the Fire HD, still the Nexus. My above is no longer as relevant, but here is the rundown
Nexus
-quad core
-8hours battery (claims by google)
-55 grams lighter! (340g)
HD
-Dual Core
-11hours battery (claims by Amazon)
-55 grams heavier (395g)
Side notes that I cannot claim as fact, but from Amazons own websites I cannot find proof that it has either
-NFC
-GPS
Now, I'm not sure about you guys, but I don't plan on using GPS. HOWEVER, I will use NFC a lot when I get a phone or tablet. For the tablet I plan to have an NFC set next to my second media monitor and have it turn on my wifi and open a remote app I use. I will also have an NFC thing in my case in my bag that will turns wifi, bluetooth, and gps off, as well as silencing the tablet.
I just think the nexus has more bang for your buck. However, the Kindle HD DOES have more battery life, CAN be hacked to run JB (that's why I didn't include it as a downside for the HD, I assume being here you know how to root and ROM it) so you shouldn't miss out much from apps. However, if you use the kindle for the Prime services, then you won't have the Google services so...I suppose that's user preference but I personally cannot live without a custom ROM, I feel suffocated heh.
Anyways, enjoy my two cents! Hope it can help someone!
TL;DR
Nexus- Yes, more for money
Kindle Fire HD- Yes, more battery, kindle services.
Kindle Fire 2- No, just, please don't. Do whatever you can for that extra $40 to get the nexus

[Q] Reviews about Kindle fire hd 7" :)

Hi, I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Fire 7 hd, but I want to know how it works, if it is quick and development if have a lot or not! Thanks for your reviews
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If you are thinking of buying a new Kindle Fire, wait a month or two and there should be a new one. Otherwise, you can read reviews from Sept 2012.
Amazon is running a sale on the fire HD 7" - I ordered one last night and it was here when I woke up a little while ago.
I really like it so far, though all I have done was put a screen protector on it as soon as I opened it and turned it on/worked through setup.
The display is nice and crisp, the screen responsive.
I got it to take advantage of the stuff being amazon prime gives me - streaming video and so on while out and about, as I travel around the country for work. I generally don't want to lug my computer around where the tablet is nice and small.
Obviously here is the first place I come as i'd like to root and get the play store on to add my years of apps to it.
I've been with a variety of (at the time) high end android devices now, so at first blush in the hour i've owned it as my own, and not some display model, i'm very satisfied for the price. ($159 free shipping, direct from amazon.)
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It's nice how well it works with the amazon services, it was easy to manage my kindle account on the amazon site, and transfer the changes to the kindle.
It's also nice that they have my 'free app of the day' apps from the amazon app store going all the way back to 2011, so win there.
It's snappy and responsive, and I didn't know it had bluetooth - honestly didn't know much about it before pulling the trigger on purchase. I figured best case would be a halfway decent viewing device for amazon prime media.
Turns out this little tablet is a lot better then I thought it would be. Even if I wasn't going to root it and break out of the amazon cage the presentation of it all and what it was designed to do is really well done.
Thanks for answer me so this tablet is cool
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[Q] Worth Buying/How Long has your HD+ Lasted?

I'm looking into purchasing a Nook HD+ tablet. I've played with it in store and it seems like a great buy, especially for the price. I'm a college student and would be using it mostly to view textbooks, take notes, and light game/movie usage. I'm looking for an under $200 tablet and I think the size is perfect (I'm not a fan of 7" tablets). Overall it seems almost too good to be true.
The reviews are mostly positive from what I've seen, but I'm really curious on the longevity of the tablet.
How long have you had yours, how do you feel about it/was it worth buying, and how well is it running after how long you've had it?
Thanks!
doctordx said:
I'm looking into purchasing a Nook HD+ tablet. I've played with it in store and it seems like a great buy, especially for the price. I'm a college student and would be using it mostly to view textbooks, take notes, and light game/movie usage. I'm looking for an under $200 tablet and I think the size is perfect (I'm not a fan of 7" tablets). Overall it seems almost too good to be true.
The reviews are mostly positive from what I've seen, but I'm really curious on the longevity of the tablet.
How long have you had yours, how do you feel about it/was it worth buying, and how well is it running after how long you've had it?
Thanks!
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Longevity seems pretty good my wife's is a year old no issues still working great. My first one lasted about 7 months and then it lost a fight with a flight of concrete and steel stairs, any tablet would have failed believe me it was almost 20 feet of bouncing. My second one is a refurbished unit I have had it for about 6 months no idea how old it really is and it is working great still.
As far as light gaming and movie viewing it is awesome. I have the hdmi plug and use it to stream movies all the time. I read on it all the time I can't imaging you having an issue with text books as I read books, magazines, and comics all the time with no issues. There are faster devices out there but not at the same price.
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Longevity seems pretty good my wife's is a year old no issues still working great. My first one lasted about 7 months and then it lost a fight with a flight of concrete and steel stairs, any tablet would have failed believe me it was almost 20 feet of bouncing. My second one is a refurbished unit I have had it for about 6 months no idea how old it really is and it is working great still.
As far as light gaming and movie viewing it is awesome. I have the hdmi plug and use it to stream movies all the time. I read on it all the time I can't imaging you having an issue with text books as I read books, magazines, and comics all the time with no issues. There are faster devices out there but not at the same price.
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Thanks for the prompt and helpful response! Have you noticed any sort of "lagginess" when you don't completely end a program (pull up the active program bar and swipe them away)? I was playing with one at Target and it was very laggy, but when I cleared out the dozens of apps that were currently open, it seemed to run more smoothly. Granted this thing has probably been abused for however long it's been on the display case and by many people, but I was just curious if you've had any sort of problem like this.
If you expect the same performance as an iPad you will be disappointed. It is about 90% in speed and polish for less than a third the price. I don't have much lag but I keep all my stuff (movies, books, music...) on the external card and I think this eliminates 90% of the lag others see.
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Lag is normal for this tablet due to chipset. If you're willing to root, lagfix application fixes the issue by using trim. I run the latest cyanogenmod on my tablet and I love it. I read comics on it daily! Rooting, changing from stock rom to cyanogenmod 4.4 and lagfix, if you have the appropriate chipset makes this tablet a lovable beast of a beauty. I use it for word processing with a Bluetooth keyboard as well. Had it for 9 months and I love it. Would only stop using it for a nexus 10 level screen with an intense graphic processor and expandable storage. But honestly not looking to spend $600 for a tablet, so this is my go to device. I have a nexus 7 2012 that I honestly use solely to read novels and play a few Tegra processor based games. I like the 7 inch for reading novels, but use my Nook hd+ for everything else!
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Have had mine for about a year. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM immediately. It is an OK tablet for average use with some lag. A good deal at the price but far from being a top product on the market
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Thank you for all of your responses! To go along with my original question, how is the responsiveness to using a stylus for notes? Someone was telling me they didn't care for the ability to write on it, but they didn't provide much more detail than that. What are your thoughts? Especially with google play compatability, I'd think there are some good note taking apps (recommendations possibly?). I'd mostly be taking notes on top of PDF versions of slides my professors put out. Thanks again!
Using a stylus is not great at least the one I tried. My Note 2 is much better but then again that was built to use a stylus. Typing is very doable on it I do that in meetings all the time.
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doctordx said:
Thank you for all of your responses! To go along with my original question, how is the responsiveness to using a stylus for notes? Someone was telling me they didn't care for the ability to write on it, but they didn't provide much more detail than that. What are your thoughts? Especially with google play compatability, I'd think there are some good note taking apps (recommendations possibly?). I'd mostly be taking notes on top of PDF versions of slides my professors put out. Thanks again!
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I will echo what the previous post said. Not that great with a stylus but as far as bang for your buck goes you can't beat this thing.
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JeauxAdam said:
I will echo what the previous post said. Not that great with a stylus but as far as bang for your buck goes you can't beat this thing.
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Does that depend on the app as well or just not good in general? Even with a pointier stylus than one of those wider ballpoints?
I only tried the one it is one of those freebies Amazon gives out with other things. I actually got it free with a case for a tablet I gave to my daughter. Works ok for general navigation. My mother in law uses the same type for everything on her nook she doesn't like using her finger but she doesn't do any type of note taking just reading and light game playing.
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I have a Nook HD+ running CM11 and an LG G Pad 8.3 GPE. The former has an 8.9" screen but is sluggish even with trim, and the latter has an 8.3" screen and is silky smooth. As of last week the G Pad GPE is $225, so it's only a bit more than the HD+ (assuming it's still $180). I use the HD+ to read comics and the G Pad for everything else. My $0.02 on the HD+ and something similar.
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I have a Nook HD+ running CM11 and an LG G Pad 8.3 GPE. The former has an 8.9" screen but is sluggish even with trim, and the latter has an 8.3" screen and is silky smooth. As of last week the G Pad GPE is $225, so it's only a bit more than the HD+ (assuming it's still $180). I use the HD+ to read comics and the G Pad for everything else. My $0.02 on the HD+ and something similar.
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Did you get the G Pad on sale? I'm seeing it from $279 online (best buy). I'm nearly positive I'm going to go with the HD+ though. I've been doing app research and I think I've found apps that'll fit my need on it and I don't need it to be super powered.
I did hear from a different forum somebody talking about being able to buy it, play with it during the return period, and then returning it if i don't like it. Is this true? Where would allow that? I would have thought that once it's opened, it can't be returned.
Barnes and Noble and Amazon both have really good return policies. Just double check when you buy it.
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I've had mine for a year now and I'm fairly happy with it. Like some, I rooted and put CM on immediately. Performance is okay, if laggy at times, but the 1920x1280 screen is great.
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Barnes and Noble and Amazon both have really good return policies. Just double check when you buy it.
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Thank you for all of the help you've provided. I appreciate it greatly. I was talking with a colleague of mine about this and he brought up a good point about B&N getting out of the tablet game. Will there still be support/will I notice they even got out of the game? He was saying to watch out for it to soon become obsolete and be careful of hopping on the train right before the final stop.
What are your (and everybody's) thoughts on that?
Thank you again!
Pretty sure you're going to install CM on it soon as you get it, so no I don't believe you'll even notice the B&N are out of the game, as you put it
As the others say, there is a teeny bit of lag but the screen/battery life/sheer functionality you get more than make up for it.
One thing I sometimes wish for is GPS, but for the price really you're getting so much more than you're paying for.
They will continue to provide support through the warranty period and after that well you still have the forums here. The product works well enough as is and they haven't stopped selling content so it should be good for a while.
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I bought 3 HD+ a year ago and all are still good running cm11. One is used as a DVR recording 2 cameras on motion to emmc. It's still alive but might break sooner (hope it doesn't).
The touchscreen is not that good, maybe because I use a screen protection.
Sometimes, alternating between apps (chrome, office) may be a bit slower. I used to use Swiftkey as custom keyboard, but aosps one is much lighter.
I've had my HD+ for a year and a half. Still loving it. Right now I'm running PAC-ROM on it and not having any real issues. I only update the ROM every month or so. But it's great for videos, surfing and reading. Still have no complaints about it and as long as trim keeps running, it doesn't lag too much.

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