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Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys

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Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys
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Stick with the pixel if u are one of those that hates waiting for updates and prefers a generic android experience.
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Limeybastard said:
Stick with the pixel if u are one of those that hates waiting for updates and prefers a generic android experience.
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Not too concerned about the updates. I'm more interested in user experience. Battery for both will be fine for anyone, camera obviously better on the pixel and screen obviously on the note. Basically it boils down to user experience.

user experience is the best you can get on android, camera is more versatile than pixel's, vanilla droid is barebones and plain boring

bill10 said:
Hello all note users. I currently have a new pixel 3 xl and have been offered a note 9 for it. I know this is a note thread but am looking for a little honest opinions on if I should make the trade. If you haven't used a pixel no offense your opinion won't help. I'm interested but am on the fence. If you have a pixel 3xl or 2 xl I would love to know what you think. Thanks guys
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Well I just sold my Pixel 3XL today and am waiting for a S10+. I had the Note 9 for a while and liked it alot. My main reason for going to the 3XL was the camera but being with the phone for a few months all the little annoyances with bluetooth, screen not waking all the time with the double tap, crashing apps and things breaking with every update I am going back to Samsung. They are slower for the updates but they release a more polished and stable OS. I really think the Pie update is beautiful on the Note. Plus the hardware is far better. I didn't go for another Note 9 because I like the design and screen to body ratio on the 10+ better. As for your trade it is fair but only you can decide what is best for your needs and wants.

Misterxtc said:
Well I just sold my Pixel 3XL today and am waiting for a S10+. I had the Note 9 for a while and liked it alot. My main reason for going to the 3XL was the camera but being with the phone for a few months all the little annoyances with bluetooth, screen not waking all the time with the double tap, crashing apps and things breaking with every update I am going back to Samsung. They are slower for the updates but they release a more polished and stable OS. I really think the Pie update is beautiful on the Note. Plus the hardware is far better. I didn't go for another Note 9 because I like the design and screen to body ratio on the 10+ better. As for your trade it is fair but only you can decide what is best for your needs and wants.
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Thanks alot, I'm thinking I might just stick with what I have. From doing a little research it's not really an upgrade so I might just sell it when the note 10/pixel 4 xl comes out. I had Samsung for about 8 years straight and got sick of TouchWiz lag so I went with the pixel 2xl then the 3xl. If the 4xl doesn't wow me I'm done with Google and will be back with samsung:good:

As a pixel 3 and a note 9 owner, lets just say the pixel 3 is collecting dust and I will be selling it soon. The pixel 3 is probably the most boring phone I ever had. And the camera, IMO, is not better than the note 8.

My Pixel XL3 was returned (boring) and happily been enjoying the badboy Note 9 EXynos!

Oyeve said:
As a pixel 3 and a note 9 owner, lets just say the pixel 3 is collecting dust and I will be selling it soon. The pixel 3 is probably the most boring phone I ever had. And the camera, IMO, is not better than the note 8.
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Lol to each his own I Guess:laugh:

galaxys said:
My Pixel XL3 was returned (boring) and happily been enjoying the badboy Note 9 EXynos!
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Care to elaborate on how it's boring, come on guys help me out. From my s8+ days I found it to be almost phone suicide to root. The pixel phones can be rooted with tons of ROMs, kernels, mods..... Can be done by a 10 year old. Not sure it's necessarily boring?

All stock android phones are boring. Pixel, oneplus, pixel roms etc all offer the same experience. Thats a pro and a con.
If the Pixel was $5-600 it would be a better contender. But at similar cost to the Note and other fully featured phones(Huawei fanboy here) it doesnt compete.
Camera and updates are what youre paying for.
If youre a user like myself I can trade off a touch of speed for a device that includes everything plus some.
Im only a few days in with the Note but its the best overall device out and this is coming from a mate 20x/pixel 3 xl user.
Only thing its missing is ir blaster.

To be honest Samsung's One UI is probably allot closer to stock android that it was in it's previous iteration. Which is kinda good. However I am not a fan of the huge Notification Drawer as it is way to big when compared to what was on Samsung UI. Also allot of the key features from Samsung UI are now not present in One UI. That said the only good thing I like in Samsung's One UI is the new navigation gestures and the fact that you can turn off the on screen buttons.

intruda119 said:
All stock android phones are boring. Pixel, oneplus, pixel roms etc all offer the same experience. Thats a pro and a con.
If the Pixel was $5-600 it would be a better contender. But at similar cost to the Note and other fully featured phones(Huawei fanboy here) it doesnt compete.
Camera and updates are what youre paying for.
If youre a user like myself I can trade off a touch of speed for a device that includes everything plus some.
Im only a few days in with the Note but its the best overall device out and this is coming from a mate 20x/pixel 3 xl user.
Only thing its missing is ir blaster.
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i have this on my keychain:
Baseus R02 Type-C Smartphone IR Remote Controller
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What will your next phone be ?

Hello guys ,
So i was currently thinking of upgrading my oneplus 3
But i couldn't settle on a certain phone , the only 2 phones in my mind would be the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung galaxy s10 plus since both cost the same where i live , let me know what you think guys

I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!

The s10's price is diving so you may be able to pick up a bargain. Depends on your criteria.
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Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.

laz3r69 said:
I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!
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Pixel devices are great no doubght but they are really expensive at the same time

Butit said:
Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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The S10 plus is a really great phone but i keep getting pulled away due to the below points
1. Touch wiz and the history of updates
2. Developer community always better on one plus devices
3. The notchless screen on the oneplus 7 pro makes it look much appealing the s10 plus screen .

affection788 said:
Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.
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Congrats , let us know what you think when you receive it

I get your point. Samsung is refining oneui to bring it closer to stock android and is increasing update supports for it's flagships, according to latest reports and that's good enough for me.
Oneplus phones surely has more community support, but nowadays phones with stock roms has got so much better that the idea of installing custom roms is becoming less tempting.
The 7 Pro may look more appealing because of it's all screen design, but I still have some reservations about the pop up camera with regards to how long it will remain functional as a moving part.
I'm not trying to convince you as to why the s10 plus is a better phone then the 7 Pro because both phones are great in their own way, I'm just sharing my personal reason why I'm going to get the s10 plus as my next phone.
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Personally I'm keeping my op3 as long as it's working and not struggling with doing anything. However of it were to die tomorrow I'd be looking at he op7 pro, the Xiaomi black shark 2, or the oppo Reno 10x zoom

Take a look at Xiaomi Mi 9

Zenfone 6 since it will officially receive lineage os. I don't like the size of the phone and just 18W charging but it has the greatest battery life.
If the s10e becomes cheaper and receives lineage os, I'll gladly opt for it.

Wait for the Pixel 4

Darkweb_182 said:
Wait for the Pixel 4
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The pixel devices are always highly priced

I'm looking for a mate 20 pro, I'm waiting for huawei/trump fight to end (I don't want to buy a phone that is not going to have android Q).
Also I'm a little bit annoyed to not be able to unlock bootloader.
But mate 20 pro is what I want, great camera and battery

reco1 said:
The pixel devices are always highly priced
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You have the budget for the S10, so I don't see why you can't buy the Pixel
Right now in India, the smaller pixel 3 is priced lower than the s10. I don't know how much it is in your country.
Pretty sure the smaller pixel 4 variant will be around the same price range.

I sure as hell won't buy a device with a notch and no headphone jack. I am at minority here but those are my requirements for now.
Redmi K20 Pro and Zenfone 6Z are top contenders for my money (I don't want to go back to IPS LCD but might have to). OnePlus phones are naturally out because they decided to "follow trend" and removed headphone jack. OP3 is working fine for my usage and i don't need the best camera, an average camera will do for me so no appeal of Pixel 4 to me at all. So for now, yeah, not many options, K20 pro is choice 1, zenfone 6z being 2nd.

I'm thinking about OP6 as it's the last OP with headphone Jack and notification LED. I know the notch isn't great but for me, small notch + OLED > LCD.

OP7, not the pro version because I definitely do not want a phone with moving parts. No Samsung, I have nothing with the brand...
But as others said before, will keep using my OP3T as long as possible. Fast, two days of battery life, great camera and straight forward; still did not find a good reason for making a switch. ..

I'd buy an iPhone, currently using oneplus 3, lasted for 2years. Still snappy with good battery backup.

Pixel 5 VS OnePlus 8T

Hi,
I had to choose between the OP8T and the Pixel 5. I come from the OP6.
Pixel 5:
Pros:
- Size
- Google Software (GCam + Pure Android) (I heard that the Pixel Base on CAF not AOSP. Is that ture?).
- Nice Support. (I got Problems with my Pixel 1 and I get first the replacement phone before I send my old back).
- Fingerprint sensor on the back and you can pull down the notificationbar
- Wireless-Charging
Contra:
- Just 18W Charger
- No 256Gb Version
- Lose a lot of nice Features (Hope the Pixel 6 will get smaller and updated sensors like project Soli)
I can not judge the Battery life. If the SD765 get 8-10h Screen-on-Time, I cant life without the SD865.
OP8T:
Pros:
- 65W Charger
- 256GB UFS 3.1 Storage
- SD 865
Contra
- No Wireless-Charging
- Never had contact with the OP Support, but I heard it's not good.
- Size, 6.0-6.3" would be perfect
What you guys think?

I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5

The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.

The oneplus camera is also the same as the previous two versions. And being a op user myself for the past 4 years I would go for the pixel just because of poor camera performance in anything but the brightest light as well as the software.
Once your op device is over a year old they tend to give it lesser preference when it comes to updates. And that too many bugs. I have had to deal with op support on one occasion unfortunately and trust me you would not even want to deal with them should things go wrong!
Ultimately it is the user's preference what they would like to buy. It you are a very heavy gamer wanting to play the most intensive games at the highest frame rate then go with snapdragon 865. Mind it the 765 will also play them well but with the occasional drop in frame as mobile chipsets are already quite powerful. But if like most you are in for the day to day software experience and camera then go with the pixel.
Note that camera sensors have not improved that much for mobiles and that is why the Google pixel camera is still amongst the best though a few other manufacturers have caught up to theirs. This is evident on the oneplus as well since they too haven't changed their primary sensor since the past two years!

i got mine today! I have to say a very fine, beautiful device

cultofluna said:
I have a Op8pro but i would go for the pixel5
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i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro

androidfreak11 said:
i just got my pixel 5 today and i am switching from my OnePlus 8 Pro
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Just curious.. why are you going to Pixel 5 from 8 Pro?

Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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And yet the camera performance is still very impressive., it is much better than it was on my 1+ 7t that's for sure.

I would most likely have gone with another oneplus if it weren't for the crap camera. 2 of the 4 cameras are utterly rubbish and the rest only perform satisfactory in good light. Any dark or tricky light conditions (UK weather) then damn!
Oneplus software used to be the closest to stock android experience before their latest update. Also once another 2 devices get released after a year then your device treatment becomes third class!

Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2!!!
Also no 120Hz refresh rate.
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Let me correct you:
Levi4cyber said:
The pixel 5 has an outdated main camera still found in the pixel 2, which is much better than the modern ones found on every OnePlus device!
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Levi4cyber said:
Also no 120Hz refresh rate (not that someone can distinguish between 90 and 120 hz).
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I switch from the OP6. But I have to choose between P5 and OP8T

Fun thing is that Google is using the same camera sensor for a long time indeed but it's so damn good!
After the Nexus days I've been a OnePlus fan until now..
I had the 6, 7, 7T pro and recently the Nord.
Last week i decided to but the 4a and i love it, my first point and shoot picture blew me away.. so much better then OnePlus without Gcam.
OnePlus is using the same 48mp sensor on many devices and it still sucks..
And updates are taking longer and longer and getting kind of useless.
The 4a got me thinking back off the time we had Nexus and i got excited again.
People keep telling themselves they need a 8 series cpu and believe me.. you don't.. at least most people won't.
The 765g is really great in everyway and even the 730g performs really well.
I also love the smaller size and i love being back on stock Android.
So the fact that pixel got more affordable, got smaller sizes but bigger batteries got me all hyped again and my 4a will go to my partner and i myself will probably buy a 5 next week.
The price difference with the 4a is big and that keeps me thinking but the differences make the device perfect for me.
So for me no 8T although it's a great device and price as well but again the same ****ty camera.
90 or even 60hz is enough for me, fast charging is awesome but not important.
And i love the smaller size so i don't want to go back to 6.5"

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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maddler said:
And 80W charge.
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Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.

General With this trick, you can get a new OnePlus 10 Pro for just $550, no trades!

Fyi...
With this trick, you can get a new OnePlus 10 Pro for just $550, no trades!
You can get the OnePlus 10 Pro at its Back Friday price before the general public. Here's what you need to do.
www.androidauthority.com

galaxys said:
Fyi...
With this trick, you can get a new OnePlus 10 Pro for just $550, no trades!
You can get the OnePlus 10 Pro at its Back Friday price before the general public. Here's what you need to do.
www.androidauthority.com
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Cracking deal tbh, but not sure I would buy one ATM what with the changes they've made to OnePlus/Oppo.
In fact I'd sell mine today for a lot less.

dladz said:
Cracking deal tbh, but not sure I would buy one ATM what with the changes they've made to OnePlus/Oppo.
In fact I'd sell mine today for a lot less.
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Sold mine the other day in swappa.com for under 500. Only a month used. Went back to my s22 ultra.

As mentioned before, mine went to eBay awhile ago. Now using my 12GB/256GB 9 Pro!
Cheers

galaxys said:
As mentioned before, mine went to eBay awhile ago. Now using my 12GB/256GB 9 Pro!
Cheers
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I miss my 8 pro

I sold my oneplus 9 pro, tried Pixel 7, returned it (it was alright, just not a phone for me) and ordered 10 Pro. (Non-existent development is sth i am aware of. I’ve spent too much time flashing and following xda.). I loved 9 pro but camera was driving me nuts. OOS 12 was a major downgrade in camera department. I lost my hope oneplus would ever improve it. With Gcam it wasn’t perfect either. I’ve seen plenty camera comparison and pics taken with 10pro looks significantly better (don’t care much about ultra wide).

forever_lol said:
I sold my oneplus 9 pro, tried Pixel 7, returned it (it was alright, just not a phone for me) and ordered 10 Pro. (Non-existent development is sth i am aware of. I’ve spent too much time flashing and following xda.). I loved 9 pro but camera was driving me nuts. OOS 12 was a major downgrade in camera department. I lost my hope oneplus would ever improve it. With Gcam it wasn’t perfect either. I’ve seen plenty camera comparison and pics taken with 10pro looks significantly better (don’t care much about ultra wide).
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The one thing I like about the OnePlus 10 pro is the camera, the smooth zooming in video is incredibly good.
No macro which is awful but overall a good camera.

dladz said:
The one thing I like about the OnePlus 10 pro is the camera, the smooth zooming in video is incredibly good.
No macro which is awful but overall a good camera.
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Thank You mate !
Total lack of development and most of all msm tool is quite scary but if one aosp rom eventually pop up, i’ll be satisfied

forever_lol said:
Thank You mate !
Total lack of development and most of all msm tool is quite scary but if one aosp rom eventually pop up, i’ll be satisfied
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Same here buddy, kernel sources were never actually fully released, they may for Android 13 but who knows..