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Thats my only deal breaker.
That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
Not a deal breaker for me, but I am certainly disappointed. I was hoping for a fingerprint sensor for lastpass, and to make 2-factor authentication simpler.
The fingerprint sensors on Android phones are kind of junk right now (compared to the one on the iPhone. Every once in awhile Apple does something amazing!), so I'd rather wait until there's actually a good one, but still... I was hoping.
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I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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I'm not sure how Samsung stores your prints, but I know that the iPhone doesn't actually store any type of usable image. From apple.com- "Touch ID doesn't store any images of your fingerprint. It stores only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. It isn't possible for your actual fingerprint image to be reverse-engineered from this mathematical representation." The data is also encrypted and stored locally in a secured place on the A7 chip. Someone would actually need physical access to your phone to even attempt to get the data and even if they somehow managed to pull it off, it is still encrypted and still not an actual image. So even if Apple is wrong and it is possible to reverse-engineer your prints, it would be a colossal undertaking to end up with a usable print and you would have to be someone real important for someone else to be willing to go to those lengths to do it. That said, and please don't take this the wrong way, I think your fears might be slightly irrational, at least as it applies to fingerprint scanners in general.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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I'm not saying it can't be reverse-engineered, but the time and resources needed to do it would far exceed the value of the print. And even so, with the fact that the would be hacker would need to be in physical possession of the device to do it- wouldn't it make more sense to just lift the prints the old fashioned way off the phone itself?
who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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And face unlock running in background.
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
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I think I gotta correct you on the reliable part, I use it daily and its just as reliable as the iphone's but I rather stay away from comparisons. Maybe I just have good prints :0. All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
As for the locked down part, I'm not sure what you mean but Tmobiles is already rooted and unlocked. They got some roms and kernels already I believe. Touchwiz isnt my favorite but has improved a bit, and I cant stand plain vanilla just bores me after a while. Then again to each his own and thats why android rocks
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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Me personally am not wearing a watch, let alone a smart watch lol.
Your Google password can be reverse engineered and cracked a million times easier than a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. Think of the fingerprint as a 10000 character long completely random password and you'll have some idea of how hard it will be to exploit.
TouchID is the best thing ever. Samsung's fingerprint scanner also works well. Biometric security should be on every phone, its much more secure and reliable, not to mention easier to use.
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All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
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Uh, yea....
Gonna leave it at that.
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After 2 replacements (all green screen's) I've decided enough is enough, this latest one has no green screen issue (BOE) display but the FP reader and face unlock is seriously bad compared to the others I've had. I'm running the 146 update as well and have done a wipe of the device, along with reprogramming my fingers but no joy.
My network are doing a non like for like replacement so I'm getting the Pixel 3XL which comes next week. I will miss this amazing battery and great camera but I've had enough!
Luckily I'm able to retain my tariff as well.
I hope others that stick with this great device have more patience than me.
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After 2 replacements (all green screen's) I've decided enough is enough, this latest one has no green screen issue (BOE) display but the FP reader and face unlock is seriously bad compared to the others I've had. I'm running the 146 update as well and have done a wipe of the device, along with reprogramming my fingers but no joy.
My network are doing a non like for like replacement so I'm getting the Pixel 3XL which comes next week. I will miss this amazing battery and great camera but I've had enough!
Luckily I'm able to retain my tariff as well.
I hope others that stick with this great device have more patience than me.
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Sad to hear it my friend, but fully get your position, it's a fantastic device let down by lack or poor QC.
They should have went to Samsung for their displays lol however mine is ok so far, so I'm definitely keeping. It's just sad that this has happened and voided your use.
I have also picked up another device to compliment the Mate 20 Pro....
Here it is.....
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Sad to hear it my friend, but fully get your position, it's a fantastic device let down by lack or poor QC.
They should have went to Samsung for their displays lol however mine is ok so far, so I'm definitely keeping. It's just sad that this has happened and voided your use.
I have also picked up another device to compliment the Mate 20 Pro....
Here it is.....
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Yes it sure is let down by QC, which is a shame as it has the potential to be the best device this year!
Wow fair play, so rocking 2 of the best devices out I see! [emoji12]
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Yes it sure is let down by QC, which is a shame as it has the potential to be the best device this year!
Wow fair play, so rocking 2 of the best devices out I see! [emoji12]
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Yeah I was always interested in the Find X, and daaaaaaamn it's stunning, but terribly let down by colorOS. Oppo have disabled fastboot, so can't unlock the bootloader, but I'm hopefull that might change.
Other than that I'm extremely happy with it.
Best of luck with your Pixel 3 XL.....:good:
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After 2 replacements (all green screen's) I've decided enough is enough, this latest one has no green screen issue (BOE) display but the FP reader and face unlock is seriously bad compared to the others I've had. I'm running the 146 update as well and have done a wipe of the device, along with reprogramming my fingers but no joy.
My network are doing a non like for like replacement so I'm getting the Pixel 3XL which comes next week. I will miss this amazing battery and great camera but I've had enough!
Luckily I'm able to retain my tariff as well.
I hope others that stick with this great device have more patience than me.
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Is a great phone full of features, i also not so happy with the video recording at 4K, wide angle only max at 24fps, jerking video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUGhza5D44
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Is a great phone full of features, i also not so happy with the video recording at 4K, wide angle only max at 24fps, jerking video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUGhza5D44
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I never really took any 4k videos but heard it wasn't great.
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I tried 4K HDR @60fps over YouTube vanced with performance mode enabled, playback struggles @4K, I then switch to 2K [email protected] and video is smooth as butter. 4K [email protected] also no issues.
K980 is not optimised for [email protected] Huawei can add [email protected] for now.
Rooted M20P is a different story.
I think there is some flaw in k980 since it's a new technology and may be it cannot be overclocked, or may be Mali g76 is to be blamed for this.
The rooting section of the forum seems to be rotting, guess Huawei is next victim of Apple protectionism syndrome.
how the face unlock works at night or low light
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how the face unlock works at night or low light
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It doesn't, you need a well lit environment for it to work properly. Basically it stores photos of your face during the setup and compares them with the current captured photo when you are trying to login.
I mean with the light from my laptop it does work. Decent enough. But it's nothing fancy or 1+ status. I do have it on because it's convenient enough though.
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I mean with the light from my laptop it does work. Decent enough. But it's nothing fancy or 1+ status. I do have it on because it's convenient enough though.
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Yeah I use face unlock too which is faster than using fingerprint, to be honest I am really disappointed with. So far face unlock works 95% of the time compared to 70% of the fingerprint.
Hey,
Since soli radar is gone, anyone know if the face unlock feature will still be there? Same for the screen on functionality (doesn't turn the screen off if you still look at it).
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Hey,
Since soli radar is gone, anyone know if the face unlock feature will still be there? Same for the screen on functionality (doesn't turn the screen off if you still look at it).
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Gone. Fingerprint back.
bobby janow said:
Gone. Fingerprint back.
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Fingerprint back, on the Back
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pre-ordered, upgrading from the pixel 2 xl.
i hope the fingerprint sensor is better on the 5, found it can be a bit flaky at times on the 2 xl.
It is a shame really. Fingerprint sucks when you have gloves on or sweaty fingers, plus cuts on your hand make your life miserable. Still in corona times I miss fingerprint. We should get both. Noone should need to decide.
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pre-ordered, upgrading from the pixel 2 xl.
i hope the fingerprint sensor is better on the 5, found it can be a bit flaky at times on the 2 xl.
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Really? How often do you have issues? The fingerprint sensor on my Pixel 2 XL. I can't say that it's never missed but it's at least 95% reliable.
Morgrain said:
It is a shame really. Fingerprint sucks when you have gloves on or sweaty fingers, plus cuts on your hand make your life miserable. Still in corona times I miss fingerprint. We should get both. Noone should need to decide.
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I think bring back the fingerprint sensor is my favorite thing about the Pixel 5. Having gloves on or having wet/sweaty fingers certainly can be a problem but I'm almost never in those situations. Especially the gloves part. I do however wear hats and sunglasses and spend time out in direct sunlight and in those situations the face unlock of the Pixel 4 was terrible. Having a mask on because of the pandemic would make it even worse.
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Really? How often do you have issues? The fingerprint sensor on my Pixel 2 XL. I can't say that it's never missed but it's at least 95% reliable.
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hard to say how often it's random but i haven't had a problem since android 11, maybe they fixed it or maybe made it less secure.
So after spending the afternoon looking over my pixel 7 and setting it up I thought I would share a few thoughts.
I have had a number of larger phones over the years so the pixel 7 is smaller than what I am used to, I wanted a smaller size though as I had had enough of my "larger" phone.
I bought the Obsidian black version and all I will say is it is a massive fingerprint magnet, also it is one slippery bugger! More so than any other phone I have had, so a case for it is a priority.
There are a few of what I would call glitches, when turning the phone on from sleep the bottom third of the screen seems very faded before normalising, is that by design? I don't know.
Also talking of the screen it seems very dull, even at full brightness.
When putting the phone to sleep and then placing it on my wireless Google charger it wakes the phone back up the show the charging details and also the time date - The time date though are not how I had it set up, they are miss aligned - is there a setting to turn this off that I have missed somewhere? (I'm not talking about the always on display - I have that turned off)
Also the charging animations... wtf! Horrible! is there a way to turn that mess off?
So what are your first thoughts/initial impressions of your Pixel 7?
Anything little bugs/glitches that annoy you?
Anything you wish you could change?
Please share your thoughts below.
Good review! Kudos
I'm in wait and watch mode on the 7, since I had early issues with the 6 Pro...
Cheers
Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
galaxys said:
Good review! Kudos
I'm in wait and watch mode on the 7, since I had early issues with the 6 Pro...
Cheers
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I had issues with the 6pro as well, bought it direct from Google the day after release.
Had multiple issues with it and Google said they thought I had a defective unit and to send it back to them and they would replace it.
However no replacement showed up and they then just refunded me.
After that little fiasco I went and bought a S21+ which is the phone I was using until today.
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Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
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That's not so good
Overall I am happy with it, no major issues.
1. Face unlock seems slightly worse than the Oneplus 7T from 2019. Maybe I am mistaken as it has been a while since I used the Oneplus.
2. My screen protector doesn't make contact on the left top edge, I tried applying two. Not sure if it's the protector or phone screen. It is perfectly centered.
3. For some reason it can take a second or two to load after clicking the settings app shortcut in the quick settings menu.
4. Have had some reproducible touch sensitivity issues. Again, not sure if protector or phone but I did enable screen protector mode. Didn't have this issue with the P6.
5. Once again I have to manually force high refresh rate for Snapchat and some other apps.
6. Not sure if this is the case with the Pixel 6, but Snapchat is taking a picture of the viewfinder. Looks absolutely horrible in low light without the Gcam processing.
7. The unlock animation does not look high refresh rate.
It almost feels like I am dropping more frames navigating the UI than my Pixel 6. Although I did follow the optimization guide for the Pixel 6, so I have to do the same on the 7 and see if there is a change. This is something I feel like will probably be improved via updates, it is release day after all.
Also what do you mean by charging animations?
This phone genuinely feels like a Pixel 6 with face unlock (which should have been added to P6 via software update).
Also please share Geekbench 5 scores, I got 1010 Single-core, 2771 Multi-core. Was kinda hoping it would be higher considering the "leaked" multi-core was 4000.
Got a 75mb update and Geekbench is now 1048/3237 which is more in line with what I expected.
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Also what do you mean by charging animations?
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If my phone screen is turned off and I then place it on the google pixel charge stand the screen wakes and does some kind of animation, then shows the clock and charge status for a few seconds before turning off again.
I would love to be able to turn all of those animations off, they are horrible.
Mine is perfect. No issues whatsoever.
I came from a Pixel 3. The Pixel 7 is definitely heavier!
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Mine is perfect. No issues whatsoever.
I came from a Pixel 3. The Pixel 7 is definitely heavier!
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Try turning it on
I'm coming from a Pixel 3 XL, and I was expecting a nice upgrade, but wow, I feel like I went from a 1992 Ford pickup to a 2023 Honda Civic Type R. What a difference. From the build quality to the overall feel. It is just such a premium experience. I set it up about three hours ago, and have been playing with it for about the last two hours. This thing is perfect. And for about 1/2 the cost of my Pixel 3 XL at launch. I can see myself keeping this for the five years of security updates easy. Even if the battery starts losing charge I know I can get it replaced like I did my 3 XL, so no worries for the next five years. At least five years. Maybe more.
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Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
Asked for a rma
Good start for me so far
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Mine did the same thing for the first 15 minutes or so. Rebooting helped, but it still disconnected twice. After it download all my apps (in between disconnects, so it took a long time), and I finished setting it up, the Wi-Fi has been steady strong. I guess it was new growin pains. it's been running flawlessly the past three hours.
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Unpacked, switched phone on, entered wifi data, wifi connects, wifi disconnects ...
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Good start for me so far
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I had the same issue. It wouldn't reconnect after either. Forgetting the wifi network and adding it back fixed the issue.
I bought it yesterday. I hooked up to my LG V60 and synced up everything. Really painless setup. Been steady using it. I love all the photo feature Google packs in the Pixel 7. I have had no disconnections of wifi or anything like that. Calls are clear. Really love the phone. I hate using it without a case and screen protector. But have that coming after the weekend. Got the Spigen rugged case from Amazon. My only gripe so far is the face unlock. It's a bit wonky. But the finger sensor works great.
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I bought it yesterday. I hooked up to my LG V60 and synced up everything. Really painless setup. Been steady using it. I love all the photo feature Google packs in the Pixel 7. I have had no disconnections of wifi or anything like that. Calls are clear. Really love the phone. I hate using it without a case and screen protector. But have that coming after the weekend. Got the Spigen rugged case from Amazon. My only gripe so far is the face unlock. It's a bit wonky. But the finger sensor works great.
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Try to redo the Face Unlock. Hold it arms length, and in a bright light area. I did that the second time, and now even when I'm sitting at a desk, and the phone is laying on top, if I double tap the screen, the Face Unlock can see me, and it unlocks instantly.
EDIT - Oh, and the calls are excellent. My first three were crystal clear. Way better than my 3 XL. I'd say better than landlines.
Phone is very fast coming from a Pixel 3. I do have to say this thing is **** huge and brick heavy. The fingerprint reader is horrible compared to a dedicated rear reader. Camera seems pretty nice, that unblur gimmick isn't production ready.
I absolutely love the screen. Feels heavy, but I don't mind it as it feels solid and I think is built well. I miss the back/feel of the pixel 2, which I don't know if people even liked that lol. My fingerprint basically never works though haha maybe I'm just registering it poorly. Came from OnePlus 8T, really missed the AOSP feel.
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I came from oneplus 8t and im in love with this pixel 7, android stock its really more beautiful than these chineses software(s) like oos12.
Face unlock is working as expected, working good except when im in a dark room with low light
My only issue for now is fingerprint scanner, it's working about 1 time on 10 i don't understand why but there's an high chance that's screen protector fault, since i did not even try without it. After the unboxing of the phone, the first thing i did was put screen protector on it then unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Except for FP Scanner, this device is amazing IMO, super fluid animation and transitions from activities. I bought it because i was tired of big screen device and for my needs the dimenions of the display are perfect.
Of course, compared to the oneplus 8t that have an amoled display, colors are better and more brilliant (on op8t) but i don't dislike OLED of the P7, maybe more safier for my eye rests
And i won't speak about comparisons of the FP scanner of these device since the one of op8t is working ALWAYS, never miss a try
My next thing to do is to try FP without any screen protector and if it's working well, to buy a new screen protector maybe better than the one i have installed
EDIT: another important thing: since is my first time with non-snapdragon device, i've noticed that this tensor G2 is working really good, always cool even with wifi-data-gps-bluetooth are on in a connected session with android auto on my car. Oneplus 8t heats up during same sessions but not the pixel 7
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I absolutely love the screen. Feels heavy, but I don't mind it as it feels solid and I think is built well. I miss the back/feel of the pixel 2, which I don't know if people even liked that lol. My fingerprint basically never works though haha maybe I'm just registering it poorly. Came from OnePlus 8T, really missed the AOSP feel.
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The screen is so good. When I first started using it I though it was a good upgrade from my 3 XL, but now after a couple days of using it, I played with the 3 XL, and wow, what a difference. If feels so light and flimsy, and the screen is so dull compared to the 7. And yes the 7 is very heavy compared to the 3 series, but it add that premium feel because of it (IMO). The entire 7's build is quality. I look at my 3 now, and it seems like a Fisher Price toy.
EDIT - Redo your fingerprints. Take your time and read what it asks. I see a lot of setups on YouTube, and they complain about the fingerprint reader, and when I watch them set it up they just spam their finger each time. It asks for a certain angle on some. Like first press normal, then the tip, then the left side, then the right side. I think a lot of people don't read what's asked each press, and then it doesn't work well for them.
The first couple of days coming from a pixel 4a ,,P7 is heavier but in a good way ,, feels premium, and so far I could not be happier ,everything is better than the 4a, sound is louder and crisper, screen more vibrant and faster scrolling, voice quality on calls are amazing, call reception has been excellent even on low bars, Have not noticed any lag with this chipset but then again Iam not a heavy user, Iam sure I will find more things better but so far 100 percent like it.