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Issues encountered so far

Hi,
I am seriously considering returning this. Its so nearly great but my unit is suffering from the following:
1. Stuck on Android 8 and Feb update. See seperate thread.
2. Touch screen touch sensitivity has some real issues. Scrolling around will occasionally "jump" or reverse direction briefly. I see this a lot on cheaper Android devices.
3. The default notification sound is a ringtone that goes on for 20 seconds approx. I have to change this for every type of notification for every app.. Its maddening.
4. Camera is... meh. Good for the price, but a long way off the top tier.
5. Auto brightness isnt good. Changes too fast, too often. Its all over the place.
UPDATE! 6. Developer Options seem totally broken. Settings dont persist or they do and the UI doesn't remember selections. What a mess.
NOTE - there are lots of positives, but these are well covered elsewhere.
All in all... this feels like any other cheap-ish Android phone. Needs updates, and dont kid yourself that this is the bargain of the century. Its good value, but its clear where compromises have been made.

Lot of bluetooth issues with 8.1. Sound is lagging when paired to my Sony WH-1000XM2. Other devices might loose connection after a while and needing to be re-paired.

RealEvil said:
2. Touch screen touch sensitivity has some real issues. Scrolling around will occasionally "jump" or reverse direction briefly. I see this a lot on cheaper Android devices.
3. The default notification sound is a ringtone that goes on for 20 seconds approx. I have to change this for every type of notification for every app.. Its maddening.
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2. Is the touchscreen a software issue?
3. Surely there has to be a better way of dealing with this notification ringtone? - Anyone got any ideas?

VonCrisp said:
3. Surely there has to be a better way of dealing with this notification ringtone? - Anyone got any ideas?
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For 3, I may have solved this myself - there is a default notification sound option which can be changed from the 20 (approx) seconds ringtone. I changed this and still got 1 of the long notifications, but the rest were normal.
As for 2), hopefully this is a software issue. The touch panel has a firmware version which is why I am so keen to get the 8.1 update (as it *may* have a newer version?) as mine is stuck on older software.

I have problems over several apps:
- Instagram no sound in stories
- Snapchat video quality is very very poor and pixilated
- Camera Zoom in Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp sometimes works and sometimes not.
- Stock Camera app, sometimes there are glitches when the camera is switching from wide to tele in lowlight.
- Playstore and Recent apps window sometimes lags
Anyone else experiencing those bugs?

zFr3eak said:
I have problems over several apps:
- Instagram no sound in stories
- Snapchat video quality is very very poor and pixilated
- Camera Zoom in Instagram, Snapchat and Whatsapp sometimes works and sometimes not.
- Stock Camera app, sometimes there are glitches when the camera is switching from wide to tele in lowlight.
- Playstore and Recent apps window sometimes lags
Anyone else experiencing those bugs?
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I just checked your first 3 issues, I don't have any of them. I didn't notice any glitches with the camera either yet, but I haven't tested it that much. Only thing is the lag when switching between recent apps, Playstore works fine though. Maybe try and clear the cache of the apps you have problems with? Or maybe you didn't update them?

chris_dis said:
I just checked your first 3 issues, I don't have any of them. I didn't notice any glitches with the camera either yet, but I haven't tested it that much. Only thing is the lag when switching between recent apps, Playstore works fine though. Maybe try and clear the cache of the apps you have problems with? Or maybe you didn't update them?
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i just found out that my instagram audio is not working when i have my phone in vibration mode instead of ringing mode, although media volume is on max.
As soon as i change into ringing mode the sound in my instastories is working! Should be a software bug, but not sure if from instagram or nokia.
EDIT: are you able to do a smooth zooming in snapchat or only "1 step"? Because after reinstalling the app i was able to fully zoom in, exactly how i am used to it. Afterwards i started the stock camera app tapped the x2 button to zoom in. Then when i went back to snapchat i was only able to zoom "1 step" like i would press the x2 button in the camera app, instead of a continuous zoom.

My volume key temporary disabled after use instagram or some local apps. Uninstall TalkBack help me this. You guys who had trouble with sound should try.

I can agree to some of these issues.
The most annoying by far is the auto brightness. Sometimes when I unlock the phone it turns the brightness all the way down, even when I'm outside. Makes the screen all but unreadable. More interesting is that it makes the adjustment even though the auto-adjustment is turned off.
The bluetooth sound is choppy sometimes.
No complaints on the screen or the camera from me.

logon21 said:
My volume key temporary disabled after use instagram or some local apps. Uninstall TalkBack help me this. You guys who had trouble with sound should try.
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Infact uninstalling talkback and a few other useless apps solved my instagram problem with no audio in the stories! Thanks for that hint. :good:
Spionas said:
I can agree to some of these issues.
The most annoying by far is the auto brightness. Sometimes when I unlock the phone it turns the brightness all the way down, even when I'm outside. Makes the screen all but unreadable. More interesting is that it makes the adjustment even though the auto-adjustment is turned off.
The bluetooth sound is choppy sometimes.
No complaints on the screen or the camera from me.
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yeah, the auto brightness does not work as good as it should. Just had a 2 hours call with a bluetooth headset and everything was just fine! Maybe you could try a different protocol in the developer settings for bluetooth codec?

Hey everyone !
I received my N7P a few days ago and i noticed that everytime i record a video, this message pops up : "OZO audio is deactivated".
I live in France and this the European model.
Do you have the same problem ?
I noticed that they also removed the face unlock. Any news on that ?
Thanks for the support guys ! :good:

OC-Freak said:
Lot of bluetooth issues with 8.1. Sound is lagging when paired to my Sony . Other devices might loose connection after a while and needing to be re-paired.
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Hey, I am curious about how the WH-1000XM2 sounds in nokia 7 plus. Is it better or worse than your other devices except for the lag?

I'm in the UK, just the received the phone and am also stuck with the 8.0 + Feb security patch. It's saying I'm up to date.
Also, is anyone else's system storage taking up 14GB? Should it be that big? It's already using 22% before I've even installed an app. Tried a factory reset and same thing.

Nocturnalizer said:
I'm in the UK, just the received the phone and am also stuck with the 8.0 + Feb security patch. It's saying I'm up to date.
Also, is anyone else's system storage taking up 14GB? Should it be that big? It's already using 22% before I've even installed an app. Tried a factory reset and same thing.
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Same here with the system storage - 13 GB.

GREGDL08 said:
Hey everyone !
I received my N7P a few days ago and i noticed that everytime i record a video, this message pops up : "OZO audio is deactivated".
I live in France and this the European model.
Do you have the same problem ?
I noticed that they also removed the face unlock. Any news on that ?
Thanks for the support guys ! :good:
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Face unlock = trusted face?
You can find trusted face in Settings>Security & location>smart lock>trusted face

trveller72 said:
Face unlock = trusted face?
You can find trusted face in Settings>Security & location>smart lock>trusted face
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I don't have that. Sure you didn't misread "trusted place"?

emperor8696 said:
Hey, I am curious about how the WH-1000XM2 sounds in nokia 7 plus. Is it better or worse than your other devices except for the lag?
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It is on par with my other phones as far as I can tell. Then again I'm not too picky on sound quality.

corpsus said:
I don't have that. Sure you didn't misread "trusted place"?
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Nope, but I am still on 8.0. May be different on 8.1?

trveller72 said:
Nope, but I am still on 8.0. May be different on 8.1?
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8.1 here. Not there anymore.

Anyone know how to turn off 'vibration' when you unlock with fingerprint scanner?
Thanks

Notification problems and Pictures not saving if accessed via Shortcut

Hey guys,
I just bought my Mi 9 yesterday and I have some really annoying problems with those Notifications... Like many people I don't get notifications properly shown in the status bar, which I solved somehow with that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/themes/app-notification-fix-mi-9-t3918964
That's nice so far, even though it does not work 100% of the time.
But whats really a pain in the ass is, that I dont get notifications on the lock screen either and also no LED notifications. Also while charging the LED isnt working. That means somehow the phone is unusable for a big part of it's purpose right? I found this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3907830 and there is no solution and no answer since one month. I tried every single setting I could find about notifications. Nothing helped
Do I miss something or is everyone just accepting this huge bug and no one knows to to anythin about it? No workaround, no solution?
I even think about returning the phone. How is it possible this phone gets such great reviews and test results everywhere if it has such MAJOR problems?
Additionally I can't save pictures taken with the camera if it's opened via shortcut (double press AI button).. someone already mentioned that here and didn't get any help...
If anyone has informations, solutions or workaround for those problems, I'd be super thankful
Edit: Im on MIUI Global 10.2.24 and I'm using the POCO Launcher...

I have the same problems.
Led blinks only in white colour for a short time and that's it. Very annoying and I also don't get icons in status bar.
Is it really just a official bug in the global ROM?
Sent from my MI 9 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

smart lock workaround

Is there a workaround to get smart lock to work on MI 9?
I connected my Hesh 3 Bluetooth headphones, smart lock notification pops up. Added hesh3 to trusted devices, yet the phone still locks when the headphones are connected.
Furthermore, can't find smart lock menu anywhere in settings for the life of me....

It appears that in miui roms the Google smartlock is not fully implemented. Also if you connect a device and mark it as trusted, xiaomi's smartlock only works with xiaomi devices.
Maybe in some future updates or roms it will work with other brands.

Philipp_94 said:
It appears that in miui roms the Google smartlock is not fully implemented. Also if you connect a device and mark it as trusted, xiaomi's smartlock only works with xiaomi devices.
Maybe in some future updates or roms it will work with other brands.
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Yeah, this is really annoying, with Galaxy Note 8 I was used to have the phone unlocked when in the car... Only thing that saves this issue for me is that fingerprint sensor is under the screen so no need to take the phone out of the car holder to unlock it
Envoyé de mon MI 9 en utilisant Tapatalk

I have submited feedback, but I'm not optimistic about a fix.
also have issues with notification access with nova launcher... It reverts to OFF( although showing as active in settings) after some time..
nothing against miui. I really like it, but it is way too buggy

Agreed. Both Xiaomi and their Developers are useless morons who just want to force their own thing down people's throats.

Dumb lock
They deliberately disabled that feature, it's really annoying, can't believe no one comes up with a fix via a paid app.

james1089 said:
They deliberately disabled that feature, it's really annoying, can't believe no one comes up with a fix via a paid app.
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Hello is there a step forward in this issue or completely stuck?

mlaci802 said:
Hello is there a step forward in this issue or completely stuck?
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Tap fingerprint sensor to wake or use mokee rom

Many problems with my Mi9

Hi I bought a Xiaomi Mi9 not even a month ago.
These days I found a really annoying problem, my Mi9 unlocks itself in my pocket. I state that I have done all the possible tests, that is with and without double tap, with and without unlocking via mi band4, with and without lifting option, password, fingerprint and face detection. Trying various combos (thinking that maybe some of them would conflict with each other) I arrive at the same conclusion. Start the emergency keypad on your own, or if I receive notifications it even opens me up or I find myself navigating through my apps.
This is the main problem.
I have found other problem, like if I talk at the phone, I put the auricle in the right ear, everything is ok, while if I move it in the left ear I no longer feel anything. (proximity sensor
defective ultrasonic?)
Another problem that perhaps seems to have solved was that of bluetooth devices, the saved devices menu was missing. With a reset I fixed the problem at the time.
The fingerprint detector every 10 attempts, 3-4 never go through if the screen is in total standby, while if you wake up the screen in any way and then use the fingerprint it always works.
The most important thing I would like to solve is that of unlocking in my pocket, it particularly bothers me. I read that in June they had to fix this option, optimize it, but apparently it doesn't seem improved. I know that here the pocket mode is automatically inserted compared to other devices. But apparently it doesn't work at all.
I have the device correctly updated.
Help me discover something more or at least solve this problem and sorry for my bad english i'm italian boy =P

Leumas91ct said:
Hi I bought a Xiaomi Mi9 not even a month ago.
These days I found a really annoying problem, my Mi9 unlocks itself in my pocket. I state that I have done all the possible tests, that is with and without double tap, with and without unlocking via mi band4, with and without lifting option, password, fingerprint and face detection. Trying various combos (thinking that maybe some of them would conflict with each other) I arrive at the same conclusion. Start the emergency keypad on your own, or if I receive notifications it even opens me up or I find myself navigating through my apps.
This is the main problem.
I have found other problem, like if I talk at the phone, I put the auricle in the right ear, everything is ok, while if I move it in the left ear I no longer feel anything. (proximity sensor
defective ultrasonic?)
Another problem that perhaps seems to have solved was that of bluetooth devices, the saved devices menu was missing. With a reset I fixed the problem at the time.
The fingerprint detector every 10 attempts, 3-4 never go through if the screen is in total standby, while if you wake up the screen in any way and then use the fingerprint it always works.
The most important thing I would like to solve is that of unlocking in my pocket, it particularly bothers me. I read that in June they had to fix this option, optimize it, but apparently it doesn't seem improved. I know that here the pocket mode is automatically inserted compared to other devices. But apparently it doesn't work at all.
I have the device correctly updated.
Help me discover something more or at least solve this problem and sorry for my bad english i'm italian boy =P
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Ciao,
I've got exactly the same problems, someone please let us know if there is a proper solution out there!
Thanks

Leumas91ct said:
Hi I bought a Xiaomi Mi9 not even a month ago.
These days I found a really annoying problem, my Mi9 unlocks itself in my pocket. I state that I have done all the possible tests, that is with and without double tap, with and without unlocking via mi band4, with and without lifting option, password, fingerprint and face detection. Trying various combos (thinking that maybe some of them would conflict with each other) I arrive at the same conclusion. Start the emergency keypad on your own, or if I receive notifications it even opens me up or I find myself navigating through my apps.
This is the main problem.
I have found other problem, like if I talk at the phone, I put the auricle in the right ear, everything is ok, while if I move it in the left ear I no longer feel anything. (proximity sensor
defective ultrasonic?)
Another problem that perhaps seems to have solved was that of bluetooth devices, the saved devices menu was missing. With a reset I fixed the problem at the time.
The fingerprint detector every 10 attempts, 3-4 never go through if the screen is in total standby, while if you wake up the screen in any way and then use the fingerprint it always works.
The most important thing I would like to solve is that of unlocking in my pocket, it particularly bothers me. I read that in June they had to fix this option, optimize it, but apparently it doesn't seem improved. I know that here the pocket mode is automatically inserted compared to other devices. But apparently it doesn't work at all.
I have the device correctly updated.
Help me discover something more or at least solve this problem and sorry for my bad english i'm italian boy =P
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Hi
Which firmware, rooted or unrooted?
I can recommend to root and use firmware of xiaomi.eu

If you have the latest firmware with pocket mode included your only two options to fix the pocket unlocking’s are: 1. Get at flip cover. 2. Delete all fingerprints and use another unlock option like face recognition or so. This will also get you noticeably better battery hours.
The speaker problem I think is a problem with the position. It is very critical that you put the tiny speaker hole exactly in front of your ear opening, a couple of millimetres aside will make the sound almost silent. This is if you by feel mean hear. Try to hold the phone at an angle out from you face with the upper part pointing to your ear and move the phone up and down to se if you can hear better.

Leumas91ct said:
Hi I bought a Xiaomi Mi9 not even a month ago.
These days I found a really annoying problem, my Mi9 unlocks itself in my pocket. I state that I have done all the possible tests, that is with and without double tap, with and without unlocking via mi band4, with and without lifting option, password, fingerprint and face detection. Trying various combos (thinking that maybe some of them would conflict with each other) I arrive at the same conclusion. Start the emergency keypad on your own, or if I receive notifications it even opens me up or I find myself navigating through my apps.
This is the main problem.
I have found other problem, like if I talk at the phone, I put the auricle in the right ear, everything is ok, while if I move it in the left ear I no longer feel anything. (proximity sensor
defective ultrasonic?)
Another problem that perhaps seems to have solved was that of bluetooth devices, the saved devices menu was missing. With a reset I fixed the problem at the time.
The fingerprint detector every 10 attempts, 3-4 never go through if the screen is in total standby, while if you wake up the screen in any way and then use the fingerprint it always works.
The most important thing I would like to solve is that of unlocking in my pocket, it particularly bothers me. I read that in June they had to fix this option, optimize it, but apparently it doesn't seem improved. I know that here the pocket mode is automatically inserted compared to other devices. But apparently it doesn't work at all.
I have the device correctly updated.
Help me discover something more or at least solve this problem and sorry for my bad english i'm italian boy =P
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Let me suggest a fix for the fingerprint issue.
Turn off the show "fingerprint on lockscreen option"
There really isn't a pocket mode for the mi9 because of the in-display fingerprint reader
About the "unlocking in your pocket" issue, I think you should try a different unlocked method, maybe a password to see if it's still there, and also ensure you don't have "On body detection" enabled in settings.

where did you buy it?
MysteriousStranger said:
Ciao,
I've got exactly the same problems, someone please let us know if there is a proper solution out there!
Thanks
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Leumas91ct said:
where did you buy it?
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From Greece, EEA 10.2.2.28 stock, unrooted ofc

did you buy it in a store, for example MediaMarkt, or on amazon?
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From Greece, EEA 10.2.2.28 stock, unrooted ofc
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Disable double tap in the settings

Leumas91ct said:
did you buy it in a store, for example MediaMarkt, or on amazon?
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No, I bought it from an official seller of Xiaomi Hellas (Greece)

Flickering dot under display in notification area

Hi all,
Been quite a few years since I posted anything here!
I have just received my pixel 5 and have noticed that dead center of the notification tray when in portrait, there is a flickering dot, especially in low light it flickers white or if not flickering leaves a faint grey dot over whatever is on the screen (stays in the same place even if I rotate the phone or watch a video)
If I reboot I can't see it for a minute or so until it then appears.
Factory reset doesn't solve it.
Has anyone else noticed this? I'm thinking it might be the ambient light sensor under the display but it is really irritating, possibly mine is faulty?
Cheers!

It's the underscreen proximity sensor.

I get that it is the proximity sensor but, It is flashing constantly - I spoke to google and they said that it should only show when in a call - it is flashing even while watching YouTube - does anyone else get this same behaviour?

Not showing on mine

I have it constantly when KinScreen is running, I saw someone having it with cpuz

I hadn't noticed until I saw this thread. I did wonder where the proximity sensor was. It's only visible when on a phone call for me.
Is the light sensor under the screen also? You can usually see that on a lot of devices when you tilt the screen slightly.

Joshhudsy said:
I get that it is the proximity sensor but, It is flashing constantly - I spoke to google and they said that it should only show when in a call - it is flashing even while watching YouTube - does anyone else get this same behaviour?
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Mine only shows when on a call

You probably have some apps using it. Possibly something like Tasker that happened to have proximity sensor based profiles configured, etc.

Mine went mental during Google Play downloading all my apps on initial phone setup. Then it went out and I've not seen it since.

Joshhudsy said:
I get that it is the proximity sensor but, It is flashing constantly - I spoke to google and they said that it should only show when in a call - it is flashing even while watching YouTube - does anyone else get this same behaviour?
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It's a software bug. I read about it on reddit and twitter yesterday. Did you move your data from your old phone using the cable?
To fix it you should factory reset, then migrate your old data using WiFi, not cable, don't restore or restore your apps manually (at least until you make sure it's fixed).
If that still doesn't work, check if you have an app called HomeAssistant (HASSIO) installed. There's one report of that causing it. To fix that you need to disable the proximity sensor on the assistant app itself.
Sources: here, here, and here.

I got the same Problem after installing notifybuddy. There must be some Bug where the sensor gets started the moment an overlay is shown. I can reproduce the Bug over and over again. Install notifybuddy and Start the App give all permissions and than Pull down notificationscenter (its an overlay). To solve the Problem, uninstall notification Apps That are using overlays.

Mine is working fine. Only during a call or listening to voice messages.

akpe said:
It's a software bug. I read about it on reddit and twitter yesterday. Did you move your data from your old phone using the cable?
To fix it you should factory reset, then migrate your old data using WiFi, not cable, don't restore or restore your apps manually (at least until you make sure it's fixed).
If that still doesn't work, check if you have an app called HomeAssistant (HASSIO) installed. There's one report of that causing it. To fix that you need to disable the proximity sensor on the assistant app itself.
Sources: here, here, and here.
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Hit the nail on the head there!
It was the Home assistant app causing it (even though it had installed after restoring from my backup, I had never opened it yet since having this phone). Uninstalled home assistant and it has stopped flashing!
Thanks so much for the replies all!

Have this issue on my one too...which is the home assistant app? Deleted the "Home" but that doesn't seem to have solved the problem.

Anwar902 said:
Have this issue on my one too...which is the home assistant app? Deleted the "Home" but that doesn't seem to have solved the problem.
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Go to the gestures options (don't know exactly where the specific one is located, it could also be at the Digital Wellbeing settings) and disable the Flip to Shh one. See if that helps.
Στάλθηκε από το Mi A2 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk

Anwar902 said:
Have this issue on my one too...which is the home assistant app? Deleted the "Home" but that doesn't seem to have solved the problem.
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The Home assistant is a 3rd party home automation app that I had previously installed - if you don't use it, I'd check for any other apps you have installed for something that might be using the proximity sensor.

Couldn't find that was causing the issue. After a restart it would be fine but once unlocked and apps started loading it would go crazy. Went through all my apps but couldn't find the cause so just reset my phone. Hopefully it doesn't show up again.
Seems to.be software issue so hopefully google will do something about it

Joshhudsy said:
The Home assistant is a 3rd party home automation app that I had previously installed - if you don't use it, I'd check for any other apps you have installed for something that might be using the proximity sensor.
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It really shouldn't matter if something is using the proximity sensor. It shouldn't ever be visible.

jimv1983 said:
It really shouldn't matter if something is using the proximity sensor. It shouldn't ever be visible.
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That's incorrect. A quick Google search for "S20 proximity sensor blinking" will yield results that show otherwise. Maybe go to YouTube instead as there's quite a few videos there on it. The Samsung subreddit has an influx of posts, it seems, for almost every device they've released over the past couple of years because folks aren't used to seeing it. It's visible under the display on my S20 Ultra and I had it on my S10 plus also.
Now of course there's bugs where it's blinking on the Pixel 5 when it shouldn't, but is it supposed to be visible when an app is using it legitimately? Yes.
Edit: It just dawned on me that YouTube vids wouldn't be the best example of this because they use cameras to video the proximity detector. Everything else stands though. Google searches and Samsung subreddits are ripe with examples though.

MasterBelch said:
That's incorrect. A quick Google search for "S20 proximity sensor blinking" will yield results that show otherwise. Maybe go to YouTube instead as there's quite a few videos there on it. The Samsung subreddit has an influx of posts, it seems, for almost every device they've released over the past couple of years because folks aren't used to seeing it. It's visible under the display on my S20 Ultra and I had it on my S10 plus also.
Now of course there's bugs where it's blinking on the Pixel 5 when it shouldn't, but is it supposed to be visible when an app is using it legitimately? Yes.
Edit: It just dawned on me that YouTube vids wouldn't be the best example of this because they use cameras to video the proximity detector. Everything else stands though. Google searches and Samsung subreddits are ripe with examples though.
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If what you are saying is true then why can't you see the sensor flashing on any phone when in a phone call or when the "Flip To Shhh" feature is enabled with just your eyes?
And if that is true about the Pixel 5 then there will be no way to use the "Flip To Shhh" feature without always seeing the sensor flashing which I can do with my Pixel 2 XL.
Here is a video of my Pixel 2 XL taken with the camera on my tablet. You can see that the tablet picks up the flickering sensor when "Flip To Shhh" but the sensor goes off when I turn the feature off. That's because the feature uses the proximity sensor to work. However, the flickering is ONLY picked up by the camera on my other device. I can't see it with just my eyes looking at the phone even though the sensor is active.
https://streamable.com/z30mgx