Which is the file manager that can dig deeper into the system without rooting?
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I am wondering if OTA updates will still work if I install apps as system apps. For example, Avast (anti-theft app, successor to theft aware) has an option to install as a system app on a rooted phone, thereby enabling the app to survive a factory wipe. The way I believe it does this is install in the root directory. My understanding was that OTA updates will check to see if the root directory is a recognized stock directory before installing, so this would imply at installing other apps to root will cause this check to fail. However, I believe superuser is installed to root directory as part of the rooting process, and I have been able to perform OTAs on phones with superuser installed.
Anyone have any experience with updating OTA with apps installed to the root directory?
I believe that it moves them from /data/app to /system/app, thus changing how the phone sees the app.
Rlin5741 said:
I am wondering if OTA updates will still work if I install apps as system apps. For example, Avast (anti-theft app, successor to theft aware) has an option to install as a system app on a rooted phone, thereby enabling the app to survive a factory wipe. The way I believe it does this is install in the root directory. My understanding was that OTA updates will check to see if the root directory is a recognized stock directory before installing, so this would imply at installing other apps to root will cause this check to fail. However, I believe superuser is installed to root directory as part of the rooting process, and I have been able to perform OTAs on phones with superuser installed.
Anyone have any experience with updating OTA with apps installed to the root directory?
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Usually the system apps are only updated individually with patch files. If there were extra files under /system, I don't think the patch would fail (or even care about it). I don't have any experience with it though, but that would be my logical guess.
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AFAIK any changes to system changes cause OTA to fail. But I could be wrong. Never tried
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Hi,
I'm using a rooted custom rom on my gt-i9000. I'm trying to install a system application from another custom rom. I've picked up related application from other rom and placed in my rom's /system/app directory. After rebooting phone related application doesn't gain root privileges. Is there any way to give root privileges to a system application manually?
Thanks
In previous versions, when you need a temp unroot to access certain apps for example, you can go to xbin and cut "su" "daemonsu" to other folder, that will make the root function temporarily disabled.
In the new system-less method however, i can no longer find su and daemonsu in xbin, is there any way to temporarily disable root without reflashing anything? Or do i have to roll back to the previous version because it is simply not possible?
Thanks in advance.
hhwong said:
In previous versions, when you need a temp unroot to access certain apps for example, you can go to xbin and cut "su" "daemonsu" to other folder, that will make the root function temporarily disabled.
In the new system-less method however, i can no longer find su and daemonsu in xbin, is there any way to temporarily disable root without reflashing anything? Or do i have to roll back to the previous version because it is simply not possible?
Thanks in advance.
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Came across this post because I am looking for the same answer - anything new here?
I had my phone rooted and all working fine on Nougat. I then tried installing secure settings for Tasker and since around this time, i've lost root and if i try flashing super su in TWRP, each time i boot and check i'm not rooted. If i open Super Su app it tells me that the framework needs to be updated and to reboot, i do this and it just keeps telling me the same.
The only thing i am thinking may have broken this is i found a guide to get Secure Settings working on nougat where someone suggested creating a folder with root file explorer called 'su' in system/bin. Now when i open up Titanium Backup it tells me it could not acquire root and say the attempt was made using the "/system/bin/su" command which im thinking means it's looking somewhere there is an empty folder?
I cant now of course delete the system/bin/su folder i created as i cant enable root in File Explorer so i'm pretty stuck and not sure what i can do. I've tried the cleanup and full unroot in the supersu app and then flashing supersu in twrp again but still says no root when i check
Any suggestions?
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I had my phone rooted and all working fine on Nougat. I then tried installing secure settings for Tasker and since around this time, i've lost root and if i try flashing super su in TWRP, each time i boot and check i'm not rooted. If i open Super Su app it tells me that the framework needs to be updated and to reboot, i do this and it just keeps telling me the same.
The only thing i am thinking may have broken this is i found a guide to get Secure Settings working on nougat where someone suggested creating a folder with root file explorer called 'su' in system/bin. Now when i open up Titanium Backup it tells me it could not acquire root and say the attempt was made using the "/system/bin/su" command which im thinking means it's looking somewhere there is an empty folder?
I cant now of course delete the system/bin/su folder i created as i cant enable root in File Explorer so i'm pretty stuck and not sure what i can do. I've tried the cleanup and full unroot in the supersu app and then flashing supersu in twrp again but still says no root when i check
Any suggestions?
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This post was a bit more informative than your "my device unrooted itself" post in the stable thread.
Dirty flash your system or use the file manager in TWRP to remove the offending folder.
I was thinking of trying that but fixed it a different way as I just posted in the SuperSU thread. But in case anyone else ever has this problem...
I fixed my issue. By disabling SuperSU and enabling again from the app settings and it gave me root. I then deleted a created su folder in system/bin that I manually created earlier when trying to get secure settings working.
It's a simple question: can I still change system UI sounds with ADB if I'm not rooted? I realized after I got this phone that most of my time rooted was just spent customizing the phone to my liking, and for the most part, I can now do that without root. The only thing I can't find a way to do is change the UI sounds, but if I can push an apk to root with ADB, can I overwrite the system files with my own?