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Mac Kies Beta Released

According to SamsungJohn, Mac Kies Beta is out:
https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungJohn/status/83735635332055040
Have at it folks!

Captainkrtek said:
According to SamsungJohn, Mac Kies Beta is out:
https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungJohn/status/83735635332055040
Have at it folks!
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Initial impressions and notations:
1) It works, finally. As a Mac user, I can say it's certainly nice to have SOMETHING that allows me to move files from my Mac to the tab without going through FTP or HTTP services.
2) With the above said, it's VERY limited. For example, it'll let you delete off the device, however copying to the device is a bit primitive, and it's very limited, like it'll only copy the movie files with the extensions it wants you to be able to copy.
3) Not sure why it doesn't put Movies in the Movies folder (it puts them in "Videos" folder), as with Audio\Songs too. So weird, like one team worked on the project that was completely apart from the rest of the Samsung Android world.
4) The overall functionality seems lagging... and it doesn't offer any sort integration with iTunes or Google Music or any other third party interface... so for music it's utterly worthless faces with competition from Doubletwist....
But overall it's a good very preliminary attempt for Mac integration by Samsung. It's a necessity for them since their #1 competitor which is iPad is very compatible with PC and iPad, in a very user friendly way. Thus far, this is the biggest issue with the Tab 10.1 for me... media sync, and media compatibility. Sammy really has to overcome these before it stands a chance to go mainstream against the iPad.

bella92108 said:
Initial impressions and notations:
1) It works, finally. As a Mac user, I can say it's certainly nice to have SOMETHING that allows me to move files from my Mac to the tab without going through FTP or HTTP services.
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how did you get it to work? im an avid mac and android user and i cant figure it out

jatoprieto said:
how did you get it to work? im an avid mac and android user and i cant figure it out
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Did you download the one in the OP's link? I've downloaded their past versions and they haven't worked witth the Tab, only this newest beta release does. It works by just plugging into the galaxy tab, lol.

bella92108 said:
Did you download the one in the OP's link? I've downloaded their past versions and they haven't worked witth the Tab, only this newest beta release does. It works by just plugging into the galaxy tab, lol.
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yes i did, i didnt have any previous versions.
ps i restarted the computer and it works now.
thanks

jatoprieto said:
yes i did, i didnt have any previous versions.
ps i restarted the computer and it works now.
thanks
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Nice! It's nothing amazing, but it's something I suppose. If nothing else you can now rename your device through your mac, hahaha. It's worthless for video x-fer to me because it doesn't even use the default movies folder lol.
But hopefully it's a sign that Sammy is getting on board with making syncing easier for us all.

bella92108 said:
Nice! It's nothing amazing, but it's something I suppose. If nothing else you can now rename your device through your mac, hahaha. It's worthless for video x-fer to me because it doesn't even use the default movies folder lol.
But hopefully it's a sign that Sammy is getting on board with making syncing easier for us all.
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im transferring a movie now. do you think we could move it from on folder to another using a file explorer app?

jatoprieto said:
im transferring a movie now. do you think we could move it from on folder to another using a file explorer app?
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Yeah of course you can move it but do you want to have to go in and move it every time you transfer to it? Easier just to use an FTP app and drop it directly where you want it the first time, hehe.
And I don't like that it only lets you transfer the most common of movies, not formats it doesn't like, haha

bella92108 said:
Yeah of course you can move it but do you want to have to go in and move it every time you transfer to it? Easier just to use an FTP app and drop it directly where you want it the first time, hehe.
And I don't like that it only lets you transfer the most common of movies, not formats it doesn't like, haha
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Amen to FTP. Been preaching it for the past week, but seems like folks weren't listening. Oh well.

Fyahstarter said:
Amen to FTP. Been preaching it for the past week, but seems like folks weren't listening. Oh well.
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It's certainly not ideal to FTP into a device over WiFi (54mbps on average with a Wireless G router), when we have a USB cable mashed into the bottom of the phone (300-400mbps on average). It's convenient to manage syncing of a file here or there via wifi\ftp, but certainly not conducive to large file transfers.
Hopefully since Samsung Kies is available for Mac, a developer will seize the opportunity to adapt an app like Doubletwist to whatever technology Kies uses ... tho my guess is Sammy has a strong position against 3rd party use of it... ugh.
I'd happily pay $10 for a method of USB iTunes Music and VIDEO syncing. Would make my life a lot easier.

I haven't gotten my Tab yet, but will this be essential if I am to root via my Mac? (i.e., will adb connect or see the device on the Mac without the new Kies beta?)

I download and install that kies pkg, but when i connect the SGT only show a "samsung modem" and nothing happen, i disabled usb debug and the tablet say kies is connected but my mac dont do anything, any ideas?
update:
omg what a big jerk haha i didnt see the Kies app forgot this.

Glass control

So being very new to Glass (only got it on Wednesday 25/06) it is my understanding that the firmware after 16 disabled the 'normal' control via the touched? So versions after this are only capable of back and scroll?
Is there anyway of configuring a program like Remodriod or Tablet Remote so you can use the controls from your phone on Glass? Might sound silly as you could just say use your phone for what your doing but I was more thinking of using it to control the likes of YouTube so I log in and obtain my play lists, also it would stop the need to plug in for control via ADB, for which as a newbie to ADB I'm struggling with commands.
I was playing around with Remodriod and it asked me to set the input in Language and input, for which it didn't pop up like it did on my phone, I assume it is because there is no native option for this on Glass and therefore couldn't obtain the screen for it? Would I need to install the language and input options? Of so where can I get it from?
Has anyone else tried this idea?
Regards
Giles

GiGoVX said:
So being very new to Glass (only got it on Wednesday 25/06) it is my understanding that the firmware after 16 disabled the 'normal' control via the touched? So versions after this are only capable of back and scroll?
Is there anyway of configuring a program like Remodriod or Tablet Remote so you can use the controls from your phone on Glass? Might sound silly as you could just say use your phone for what your doing but I was more thinking of using it to control the likes of YouTube so I log in and obtain my play lists, also it would stop the need to plug in for control via ADB, for which as a newbie to ADB I'm struggling with commands.
I was playing around with Remodriod and it asked me to set the input in Language and input, for which it didn't pop up like it did on my phone, I assume it is because there is no native option for this on Glass and therefore couldn't obtain the screen for it? Would I need to install the language and input options? Of so where can I get it from?
Has anyone else tried this idea?
Regards
Giles
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I'm glad you've done your research, it gets old telling people the same things over and over again.
As you mentioned, there was a time where you could easily control most apps with the touchpad, but that functionality has since been removed. Besides, there was no way to enter text without some sort of remote; many people managed to use bluetooth keyboards to achieve this, and the combination worked quite well.
In XE16, Google apparently decided that they wanted to make a clear distinction between Glass and Android controls. Apps that don't implement the Glass-specific gesture listeners can't be controlled at all. Even native Android popup windows don't allow you to choose which button you want to select (even if the Languages and Input popup did show up on Glass, you couldn't select the button).
So here we are today, either using the stripped-down, masked version of Android that Google gives us, or fumbling with ADB commands attempting to get that one video on YouTube to play. But there is hope yet. Google gives us rooted boot images, presumably hoping that we will show them something that they haven't done themselves. This tiny 5.5MB file opens up a ton of possibilities, but someone needs to be the middle man that brings these possibilities to the masses.
Thanks to the beauty of open source, we have a clear model of what needs to be done for Glass to work like so many people wish it would.
Port a working recovery image to flash zips to the Glass system folder (Done)
Modify Superuser to function properly given Glass's limited control set
Modify XposedInstaller in the same manner
I have a proof-of-concept Xposed module for Glass that lets me control the Netflix app with the touchpad. It's dirty, and it takes a lot of work to get working, but the concept is solid. Xposed is an incredibly powerful utility. The end goal is to create a Glass-oriented keyboard (think oldschool arcade video game high score screens - "Enter Your Initials").
While my goal is solid and my intentions are pure, I worry that there is a reason Google didn't do this to begin with.
TLDR; I'm working on it.

Many thanks for the response, so the short answer is no. That's a big shame and I hope I haven't just wasted 1k on a peice of eyewear that needs charging halfway thru the day!
I assume there is no way of going back to version 16?
I think it's strange how little development there is with Glass on XDA (I could be wrong but if you look at the likes of the smart watches there seems to be considerably more development) and how inactive this part of the forum seems? considering the idea and in my eyes (no pun intended) cool Glass is hence why I ordered mine as soon as I could here in the uk, so far I haven't met anyone with one, and I'm still getting some strange looks lol
The things that are possible with Glass are amazing. Really wish they had added a rear facing camera, eyes in the back of my head, no, but I can see behind me lol
I am eager to see your work and I will experiment on trying to build your xposed modules (never tried building an apk before) no harm in learning on what is probably the most expensive peice of tech I own lol

GiGoVX said:
Many thanks for the response, so the short answer is no. That's a big shame and I hope I haven't just wasted 1k on a peice of eyewear that needs charging halfway thru the day!
I assume there is no way of going back to version 16?
I think it's strange how little development there is with Glass on XDA (I could be wrong but if you look at the likes of the smart watches there seems to be considerably more development) and how inactive this part of the forum seems? considering the idea and in my eyes (no pun intended) cool Glass is hence why I ordered mine as soon as I could here in the uk, so far I haven't met anyone with one, and I'm still getting some strange looks lol
The things that are possible with Glass are amazing. Really wish they had added a rear facing camera, eyes in the back of my head, no, but I can see behind me lol
I am eager to see your work and I will experiment on trying to build your xposed modules (never tried building an apk before) no harm in learning on what is probably the most expensive peice of tech I own lol
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I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of activity. Rooting Glass voids the warranty, and with the high price in addition to so many reported issues, not many people are willing to take that risk at the moment.
If you want to get touch controls back, then you'll need to flash down to XE12. See https://developers.google.com/glass/tools-downloads/system. Please be sure to read any warnings and notices. XE12 still doesn't have many options for keyboard input, but you'll have better luck than using XE16+.
Also, the strange looks won't be going away any time soon

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I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of activity. Rooting Glass voids the warranty, and with the high price in addition to so many reported issues, not many people are willing to take that risk at the moment.
If you want to get touch controls back, then you'll need to flash down to XE12. See https://developers.google.com/glass/tools-downloads/system. Please be sure to read any warnings and notices. XE12 still doesn't have many options for keyboard input, but you'll have better luck than using XE16+.
Also, the strange looks won't be going away any time soon
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The really frustrating thing with my Glass is that I'm still waiting for Google to get back to me about the 'split framed' version they should of sent me instead of the current standard version I have!
I requested a call from Google shortly after I received them asking the above question but they couldn't find my order, sure enough they have taken my money but can't find my order number, nor my Gmail address or the serial number for my Glass device! A little concerning that Google of all people couldn't find my info! I'm still waiting for an email back 3 days later! Longest Google search in history lol

Rooting beenfits

Hi all
Think it would be about £25-£30 to get all the kit to root the Chromecast, which then will most probably not be used again. Can anyone please explain the benefits of rooting? Such as what the rooted ROM's will give me over official firmware. For example am I able to run XBMC from it?
I have most probably been lucky in the past because it has cost nowt to root my smartphones, tablets etc?
I am all for rooting Chromecast but not sure of the benefits.
Regards
fs1023

fs1023 said:
Hi all
Think it would be about £25-£30 to get all the kit to root the Chromecast, which then will most probably not be used again. Can anyone please explain the benefits of rooting? Such as what the rooted ROM's will give me over official firmware. For example am I able to run XBMC from it?
I have most probably been lucky in the past because it has cost nowt to root my smartphones, tablets etc?
I am all for rooting Chromecast but not sure of the benefits.
Regards
fs1023
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No it won't let you run XBMC....
Two most noteworthy benefits to root...One may actually be something you might like.
1 - You get to use the Eureka Whitelist which can allow some apps to work earlier than they they would because Google has delayed whitelisting it. (Screen Mirroring was available to rooted users even before Google announced it because rooted users had it whitelisted while Google waiting until Google IO) What those Apps are varies as they are released and as Google adds them to their list so a comprehensive list is not really possibe.
2 - (And the one that might interest you most since you appear to be in the UK)...Rooted makes it much easier to use VPNs and custom DNS settings so you can access region blocked content without the need for complex settings changes on your router which can sometimes affect other services. As time goes on this may be the most used feature for those not in the US and want to access full content from Netflix and Hulu. or even those in the US who would like access to content that is blacked out in the US and only available in Europe.
In time as more people are able to get root you might find some more developers willing to create apps that take advantage of the rooted CCast but there are Millions of units sold and I'm not sure but I'm betting less than 100K actually have achieved root in the initial hack and perhaps now many more will be able to boost those numbers.

Is that £25-30 including the Chromecast price. Because if you have a memory stick already, the teensy and usb otg Y cable is about £10.

Asphyx said:
No it won't let you run XBMC....
Two most noteworthy benefits to root...One may actually be something you might like.
1 - You get to use the Eureka Whitelist which can allow some apps to work earlier than they they would because Google has delayed whitelisting it. (Screen Mirroring was available to rooted users even before Google announced it because rooted users had it whitelisted while Google waiting until Google IO) What those Apps are varies as they are released and as Google adds them to their list so a comprehensive list is not really possibe.
2 - (And the one that might interest you most since you appear to be in the UK)...Rooted makes it much easier to use VPNs and custom DNS settings so you can access region blocked content without the need for complex settings changes on your router which can sometimes affect other services. As time goes on this may be the most used feature for those not in the US and want to access full content from Netflix and Hulu. or even those in the US who would like access to content that is blacked out in the US and only available in Europe.
In time as more people are able to get root you might find some more developers willing to create apps that take advantage of the rooted CCast but there are Millions of units sold and I'm not sure but I'm betting less than 100K actually have achieved root in the initial hack and perhaps now many more will be able to boost those numbers.
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Asphyx thanks for your knowledgeable reply, you have convinced me to root.
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Is that £25-30 including the Chromecast price. Because if you have a memory stick already, the teensy and usb otg Y cable is about £10.
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theronkinator thanks as well for your reply. Looked at prices in OP and they seemed to be more that £10. Thanks anyway I will shop around.
Will this product do the same as the Teensy? A-Star 32U4 Micro

fs1023 said:
Will this product do the same as the Teensy? A-Star 32U4 Micro
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I managed to root my four chromecasts using an A-Star 32U4 micro.
The LEDs don't light up at all during the process and there's no reset button so you have a short a couple of pins, but apart from that it works fine.
Tim

ClarkyCat said:
I managed to root my four chromecasts using an A-Star 32U4 micro.
The LEDs don't light up at all during the process and there's no reset button so you have a short a couple of pins, but apart from that it works fine.
Tim
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Thanks for the reply Tim. No sure what you mean by " there's no reset button so you have a short a couple of pins". I have tried to put the teensy hex file on it but it does not work. Do I need to do this part of rooting? Can you please explain the process of how you rooted your 4 casts?
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fs1023

fs1023 said:
Thanks for the reply Tim. No sure what you mean by " there's no reset button so you have a short a couple of pins". I have tried to put the teensy hex file on it but it does not work. Do I need to do this part of rooting? Can you please explain the process of how you rooted your 4 casts?
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fs1023
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You need to get the A-Star into bootloader mode in order to load in the HubCap teensy files (I used regular_16664.hex). There's no reset button on the board so you have to short the GND and RST pins twice within 750ms. The board LED kind of pulses when it's in bootloader mode.
Have a read of the docs here: http://www.pololu.com/docs/0J61/5.3
I programmed the board using:
Code:
avrdude -p atmega32u4 -c avr109 -P /dev/ttyACM0 -U flash:w:regular_16664.hex
Perform the root in exactly the same way as in the youtube vid. The only difference is that the LED on the A-Star doesn't flash in the same way as the teensy++ in the vid does. You just have to watch for the Chromecast LED colour change.
Cheers,
Tim

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The only difference is that the LED on the A-Star doesn't flash in the same way as the teensy++ in the vid does. You just have to watch for the Chromecast LED colour change.
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Actually, try the hex files I attached to my post on the HubCap thread.
I've rebuilt them with A-Star 32u4 LED support, so it blinks the same way as the teensy2++ does in the vid.
Tim

ClarkyCat said:
You need to get the A-Star into bootloader mode in order to load in the HubCap teensy files (I used regular_16664.hex). There's no reset button on the board so you have to short the GND and RST pins twice within 750ms. The board LED kind of pulses when it's in bootloader mode.
Have a read of the docs here: http://www.pololu.com/docs/0J61/5.3
I programmed the board using:
Code:
avrdude -p atmega32u4 -c avr109 -P /dev/ttyACM0 -U flash:w:regular_16664.hex
Perform the root in exactly the same way as in the youtube vid. The only difference is that the LED on the A-Star doesn't flash in the same way as the teensy++ in the vid does. You just have to watch for the Chromecast LED colour change.
Cheers,
Tim
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Once again thanks Tim your help is much appreciated.
Not really sure what I am doing here but I have installed the Winavr software. When I click on run I get dialogue box error message - Error loading "C:WinAVR-20100110/bin/avr-gcc.exe": not in executable format: File format not recognised.-
Any idea what i am doing wrong?
Regards
fs1023

fs1023 said:
Once again thanks Tim your help is much appreciated.
Not really sure what I am doing here but I have installed the Winavr software. When I click on run I get dialogue box error message - Error loading "C:WinAVR-20100110/bin/avr-gcc.exe": not in executable format: File format not recognised.-
Any idea what i am doing wrong?
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fs1023
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I used linux, so I'm not sure about using winavr - is it supposed to provide some kind of cygwin-ish shell? Perhaps you need to run it with Admin privileges?
You'll need to change the -P parameter to whatever format windows needs. The user guide suggests "\\\\.\\USBSER000".
Tim

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I used linux, so I'm not sure about using winavr - is it supposed to provide some kind of cygwin-ish shell? Perhaps you need to run it with Admin privileges?
You'll need to change the -P parameter to whatever format windows needs. The user guide suggests "\\\\.\\USBSER000".
Tim
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Ok thanks Tim. I will buy a Teensy as this looks easier to work from. Would have bought one in first place but hard to find online for UK.
Regards
fs1023

Hello people, quick noob question.
I can stream something from a website to my phone but when I mirror my phone to tv, the tv screen goes blank and just hear the sound.
Is this something I can fix with rooting chromecast?
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reggaetonero said:
Hello people, quick noob question.
I can stream something from a website to my phone but when I mirror my phone to tv, the tv screen goes blank and just hear the sound.
Is this something I can fix with rooting chromecast?
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app
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Hi reggaetonero
I have not yet rooted the Chromecast so I don't know what root brings. Sorry I can't help. You might be best either starting a new thread with with your question or maybe posting it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/har.../root-hubcap-chromecast-root-release-t2855893
Regards
fs1023

reggaetonero said:
Hello people, quick noob question.
I can stream something from a website to my phone but when I mirror my phone to tv, the tv screen goes blank and just hear the sound.
Is this something I can fix with rooting chromecast?
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Rooting Chromecast won't help in this case as the problem is likely some capability missing from your phone or its ROM.

ClarkyCat said:
Actually, try the hex files I attached to my post on the HubCap thread.
I've rebuilt them with A-Star 32u4 LED support, so it blinks the same way as the teensy2++ does in the vid.
Tim
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hey, is there any chance you could help me by showing which section you altered in the source to change the LED pin ?
as im trying to get a sparkfun board LED going ! cheers
EDIT cannot see where to delete post, as i think you just answered this in a dif thread ! as i posted this ... Thankyou EDIT

Deleted. It was a bit OTT, have had a bad day. Sorry if I offended anyone who has previously helped.

fs1023 said:
What a waste of money to root this thing. £20 odd for the teensy £5 odd for the OTG cable. I have sent various posts asking how you view eureka whitelist after root, as well how you use ssh and what the cc password is because when i have tried ssh in putty it asks me for username then password. I may as well have saved my money because all i have are the same apps as what i can get from google. total wast of money.
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think yourve missed the point a bit then !
plus you didnt HAVE to spend that amount to get it going,
a under £10 ATmega 32U4 equiv is ok, plus you can make a OTG cable for free...
plus its future proofing IF sothing come out later
and its a great hobby too !

Google home hub with an "old" tablet

Dears,
My name is Thomas and I bought a Google mini for my home few weeks ago.
I know that Google released a new device called Google home hub, that is a home smart control. It's a beautiful idea, but in Italy is not already released.
My idea is to create with another tablet a smart home control with Google home like Google home hub.
Do you think it is possible to do? Which kind of apk can I download to release it?
Thank you for your help

I've got 2 Nexus 7 2013's that would do this role perfectly. I imagine the "Hub" app is a launcher of sorts, perhaps it will be ripped soon

maysa said:
I've got 2 Nexus 7 2013's that would do this role perfectly. I imagine the "Hub" app is a launcher of sorts, perhaps it will be ripped soon
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hi,
yes, better mic and external speaker is needed, but old tabled is maybe even better than new google hub...you can use Camera for surveillance too...
hope we found the way how to install it on old tablet...
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kikanx

I've been thinking the same thing since the announcement of the Google Home Hub.
I have the original Nexus 7 with charging dock/stand that will be ideal.

Anyone extracted the app?
I would like some easy to use home control screen

Afaik on a Google hub it is not Android, it is good wear os.

Pisley1989 said:
Dears,
My name is Thomas and I bought a Google mini for my home few weeks ago.
I know that Google released a new device called Google home hub, that is a home smart control. It's a beautiful idea, but in Italy is not already released.
My idea is to create with another tablet a smart home control with Google home like Google home hub.
Do you think it is possible to do? Which kind of apk can I download to release it?
Thank you for your help
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It’s not Android OS exactly, it’s “Android Things” powered by Google Assistant, so you can’t install APKs etc... it’s very basic and was made to be this way.

Wondering how difficult it would be for someone, with the proper know how, to make an app the emulated the functions of the home hub. But as an app
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Wondering how difficult it would be, for someone with the know how, to make an app that emulated the features of the Home Hub. I get that these companies want to make money peddling more screens, but almost everyone has an old phone or tablet laying around that would be perfect for this.

myshyak said:
Afaik on a Google hub it is not Android, it is good wear os.
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Its a modified Cast OS.

thinking the same ... Waiting for some ideas or project....

kuri_2k said:
It’s not Android OS exactly, it’s “Android Things” powered by Google Assistant, so you can’t install APKs etc... it’s very basic and was made to be this way.
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Home Hub is running it's own Cast OS type system but other smart displays use Android Things. Android Things in fact DOES use APKs. So we shouldn't be looking at the Home Hub for this capability - we need the other smart displays broken down to find this.

Also I'm studying how to recover an old Android tablet and turn it into a Google home hub. Using only the home application of the play store does not turn it into a hub, so you can not command with different user voices and add other family accounts.

No one have found a solution? I have an old Samsung Galaxy tab 3 sitting on my desk, it would be great.

Not suggesting it should be done, but if the home hub has a standard USB docking port, perhaps it might be possible to copy system files with an otg cable connected to a laptop... they have to install the system files somehow, and I doubt that is done via wifi.

Can anyone tell me ?hav there any alternative of google home app(apk) alternative?!
By which we can control google products(chromecast,mini etc) without a google account

Pisley1989 said:
Dears,
My name is Thomas and I bought a Google mini for my home few weeks ago.
I know that Google released a new device called Google home hub, that is a home smart control. It's a beautiful idea, but in Italy is not already released.
My idea is to create with another tablet a smart home control with Google home like Google home hub.
Do you think it is possible to do? Which kind of apk can I download to release it?
Thank you for your help
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You can use home assistant (hass.io) you run the server on another computer and connect it with the Google assistant. Boom

Hi,
The Google Home Hub runs Fuchsia, not Android, Cast OS, or any other operating system Google has created. Fuchsia is a completely different operating system with its own kernel, APIs, and architecture, which (afaik) carries little to no compatibility with Android apps YET. Without a lot of effort, you are unlikely to get the Hub software running on non-hub hardware, let alone non-Fuchsia software.
Best of luck,
Eric Rabil

It would be amazing. Even with a dedicated apk.
Hope to see smtg soon

https://www.lifewire.com/google-assistant-on-windows-4628292
Can this be done on a tablet?

Ambient mode is being released on some new phones and tablets, perhaps it will eventually get a wider release. And maybe someone will develop a Magisk module to make it work on other models. Here's a link to more details about Ambient mode. This could bring new life my old Nexus 7 and 10.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/09/05/google-assistant-ambient-mode-mobile/

Smart Display System Dump or APK

Hey, guys - I've been scouring everywhere whether anyone has been able to perform a system dump of a Smart Display device. Since the Home Hub is using Cast as its method of being display I'm almost positive it won't be able to be engineered on old Android tablets or elsewhere.
However, any other Smart Display should be running the Smart Display APK on top of Android Things. If we can get a hold of that I think we may be able to start porting it over to older devices.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm tempted to go purchase a device just to test.

Sadly it seems there isn't much of a hacking community for these devices, and if you want anything, the best option is to simply buy the device yourself and get hacking.
I just purchased a Home mini for this reason, it seems you might have to to the same yourself for the devices that interest you.
(Shame there's no firmware section here, I imagine the few posts it would get would be invaluable)

Hey guys, did you manage to get anywhere with Smart Display APK?

zeldi said:
Hey guys, did you manage to get anywhere with Smart Display APK?
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Guys I have a Lenovo Smart Display under my hands. I found the hidden USB Tipe-C port but there's no way to make the PC/Mac to see it.
adb fastboot are not working and there's no settings to enable developer options
Btw this thing is indeed Android Things...
If someone has any idea how to dump the memory this thing I will share the package ASAP and the portings will begin!

I don't know if this will help.
https:// smartsupport. lenovo. com/us/en/products/SMART/SMART-SPEAKER/LENOVO-SMART-DISPLAY/downloads/DS504927
Someone shared this link on another site, not sure if the open source code could help or not. (1st post, had to add spaces to the link because can't post links until after ten post) Shout out to Shloime Rosenblum for sharing on stack overflow https:// stackoverflow. com/questions/53029653/android-things-on-lenovo-smart-display-or-google-home-hub

Hey guys,
I have attached the usb-c connector to my pc and have gotten the smart display in fastboot mode (by holding the volume down and applying power). Some fastboot commands work and I have tried installing different recovery.img to the device, but it won't boot them. I have also entered recovery by holding down the up volume button and tried to initiate an adb session, but adb does not respond. I have also tried flashing in qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008, by holding both volume up and down and applying power. I have tried a sahara img for qualcomm 625, but the img won't take. I have also tried extracting the imgs from the smart display via fastboot, but no luck. I think it needs to be done in adb.
Does anyone know how to enable developer options in android things?
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Also, does anyone know how to compile the source from lenovo? If I could get a binary of the imgs, we might be able to flash a modified rom (unlocked bootloader, root, etc).

Hey all, I am looking for a factory image for this device that I can sideload in ADB. Anyone been able to find one?

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Hello fellow androideans. I am wondering if anyone has gotten any further on finding a way to mod the smart display from Lenovo. I have purchased 3, to do some miss to. In this case, I'm sure I will mess up 2 before I get to my 3rd. I will keep checking back to see how we can make these things, our own.

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I have the source code, but I have no idea how to compile it. Any updates?

Did you happen to try the "fastboot oem unlock" or other similar commands? If the bootloader is locked, it will never allow you to flash any sort of image with fastboot.
It may let you "boot" an image, though....
you could try:
"fastboot boot <your_recovery_image.img>"
gigahurts said:
Hey guys,
I have attached the usb-c connector to my pc and have gotten the smart display in fastboot mode (by holding the volume down and applying power). Some fastboot commands work and I have tried installing different recovery.img to the device, but it won't boot them. I have also entered recovery by holding down the up volume button and tried to initiate an adb session, but adb does not respond. I have also tried flashing in qualcomm hs-usb qdloader 9008, by holding both volume up and down and applying power. I have tried a sahara img for qualcomm 625, but the img won't take. I have also tried extracting the imgs from the smart display via fastboot, but no luck. I think it needs to be done in adb.
Does anyone know how to enable developer options in android things?
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Also, does anyone know how to compile the source from lenovo? If I could get a binary of the imgs, we might be able to flash a modified rom (unlocked bootloader, root, etc).
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nello92 said:
I found the hidden USB Tipe-C port but)
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Hi nello,
can you tell me pls, where you have located the USB Port?
Thanks
Boris

It is under one of the rubber feet, Lenovo's website details it as a service port

I am shocked I can't find more people trying to port NestHome / EchoShow firmware to older devices. Google/Amazon should want to help people do this. It would not make any meaningful impact on device sales, and it would incourage platform growth amongst coders.
What about some other Linux smart-display... Something like that has to exist and be easy to put on old devices no? It would be awesome to have a custom smart-display capable of talking to any of the big-4 voice assistants, that we can run on old tablets and phones.
I miss the old days when a computer didn't come with an OS, you bought hardware and software from different companies. How did we allow manufacturers to lockdown OUR devices like this?

rpmccormick said:
I am shocked I can't find more people trying to port NestHome / EchoShow firmware to older devices. Google/Amazon should want to help people do this. It would not make any meaningful impact on device sales, and it would incourage platform growth amongst coders.
What about some other Linux smart-display... Something like that has to exist and be easy to put on old devices no? It would be awesome to have a custom smart-display capable of talking to any of the big-4 voice assistants, that we can run on old tablets and phones.
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I'm shocked no one has been able to pull the APK from any of these devices. Lenovo or any Android Things powered Google Smart Display is running off of an apk and theoretically could work on any device.
Amazon's OS is available here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=amazon.speech.sim but you can only download it from select few Lenovo tablets.
I miss the old days when a computer didn't come with an OS, you bought hardware and software from different companies. How did we allow manufacturers to lockdown OUR devices like this?
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We're hackers and very capable engineers. Most people are not. By locking most of these things down the companies are making it much easier for consumers to understand not to mention support at scale.

Hi,
if you press and hold down powerup an give power you cemt to the basic bootmenü

Hey, I don't know if you guys are aware, but the Lenovo Smart Display was recently unlocked, and the dump of the firmware is available at https : // github . com / deadman96385 / things_mt8167s_som_dump (just remove the spaces). System/system/app does contain DeskClock and AndroidThings, but they don't install/parse respectively on my Moto X4 (Oreo 8.0) directly anyway. But if you can figure something out, that would be great! I've got an old Moto G3 and instead of turning into electronic waste it could actually be useful.
pjd2011 said:
I'm shocked no one has been able to pull the APK from any of these devices. Lenovo or any Android Things powered Google Smart Display is running off of an apk and theoretically could work on any device.
Amazon's OS is available here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=amazon.speech.sim but you can only download it from select few Lenovo tablets.
We're hackers and very capable engineers. Most people are not. By locking most of these things down the companies are making it much easier for consumers to understand not to mention support at scale.
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Hey, I don't know if you guys are aware, but the Lenovo Smart Display was recently unlocked, and the dump of the firmware is available at https : // github . com / deadman96385 / things_mt8167s_som_dump (just remove the spaces). System/system/app does contain DeskClock and AndroidThings, but they don't install/parse respectively on my Moto X4 (Oreo 8.0) directly anyway. But if you can figure something out, that would be great! I've got an old Moto G3 and instead of turning into electronic waste it could actually be useful.
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Unfortunately that dump isnt really of much use. Its from the Smart Display 7 from Lenovo which is a different beast. Mediatek processor, and the original Lenovo Smart Displays and the JBL Link View are all Qualcomm. So the process to dump a ROM and the tools would be different
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Internal photos are here. Any ideas folks?
https://fccid.io/APILINKVIEW/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-3884185
Without being able to get the thing in dev mode or unlocking the bootloader, doesnt seem to be a way of us either dumping, or flashing, a ROM via the USB port. Unless this has changed.
Looks to be a 10-pin interface on the board, no telling if this is standard 10-pin JTAG or not. Might be a way to dump a rom though.
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Mainboard seems to be the Intrinsyc SD624 Audio Kit board, which has the wifi, BT, and Qualcomm SoC onboard. Probably if someone is able to get dev tools or manuals or intel on this board, that would lead to the tools to dump/extract a ROM.
Or, at a minimum, perhaps a stock / generic development ROM.

Hey Guys, sad to see this project is still on halt. I landed on here with the same idea of trying to put that Lenovo smart clock app/rom onto my old phones and use them as smart clocks instead of letting them sleep in a corner. I had a run through this thread and someone pointed out that the source code for the clock was available at https://smartsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/smart/smart-home/smart-clock/za4r/downloads/driver-list/component?name=Software%20and%20Utilities
I had a look at it, and I don't know how to compile it but I am now following through some guides to see the available options to compile it. I have zero knowledge of making roms or apk, and my coding skills are utmost basic, but I don't think it should be super out of reach in 2020. Lets see how it goes, anyone with ideas, please shoot them through!
Cheers

Sounds like very complex development...

I have 3 lenovo 10" smart displays. I purchased them because they are still in store display mode. This mode has the option to test all aspects of the display, gives sound and touch with no issues. I can get into bootloader menu. Only this is as far as I can go. My goal was to set one of these up as just a stand alone android device. Not caring what android version it was running. I thought it would be nice to have a full android tablet available, capable of all android features; by your bed side. If someone is willing to get this going. I would happily send you a Lenovo 10" smart display, so you can do what you like with it.