Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.
joedellosso69 said:
Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.
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Android 11 would be its 4th OS.
pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F
gruuvin said:
Android 11 would be its 4th OS.
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Well... That's right, so.. Maybe will not have it.
Youdoofus said:
not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F
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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung's limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.
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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.
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oh, you mean the separate versions of Android. You said updates, and they are starkly different things. Also, even within the Android "version" are releases which are also "Android version updates". Not trying to split hairs, rather clarify and help avoid people answering the question you asked vs the one you meant to ask.
So, the answer to that is very unlikely. Android releases are just a hair faster than the phone hardware releases and ive never seen more than 2 years of support on any phone, much less a Samsung one. Check my sig for currently owned Samsung phones.
Well you could see the history repeating it self, in this case we have note 8 wgich didn't get android 10, so i gues this will be the same with note9 when android 11 comes.
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Should we expect Android 9 to come to the Note9 faster than previous updates on notes due to project Treble? Is that thing actually doing anything? The Note8 took FOREVER to get Oreo. Was that a Project Treble phone too? If so, I guess I should anticipate waiting until like February/March again, which is a shame for a flagship phone like this. I'd be pleased if it was out before 2019 begins. That's more than enough time I think.
What do you guys think?
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Should we expect Android 9 to come to the Note9 faster than previous updates on notes due to project Treble? Is that thing actually doing anything? The Note8 took FOREVER to get Oreo. Was that a Project Treble phone too? If so, I guess I should anticipate waiting until like February/March again, which is a shame for a flagship phone like this. I'd be pleased if it was out before 2019 begins. That's more than enough time I think.
What do you guys think?
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I wouldn't expect anything. Different but what do I know. The note 8 wasn't a treble device though.
I doubt you will see Pie before March April time frame.
pcriz said:
I wouldn't expect anything. Different but what do I know. The note 8 wasn't a treble device though.
I doubt you will see Pie before March April time frame.
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S9 plus is a treble device, but it's still on 8.0
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I wouldn't expect anything. Different but what do I know. The note 8 wasn't a treble device though.
I doubt you will see Pie before March April time frame.
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That would be worse than the Note8 Oreo time frame! It had better be better than THAT! Haha.
Good to know that the Note8 wasn't Treble. I was not aware. That's encouraging!
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S9 plus is a treble device, but it's still on 8.0
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I mean, Android 9 just came out though. Unless you're thinking it would be 8.1, and that's your point?
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I mean, Android 9 just came out though. Unless you're thinking it would be 8.1, and that's your point?
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Exactly, 8.1 has been out six months or so and I thought treble would make those smaller updates more timely.
Dont expect update on this for a while. One of the reason why im holding on this phone. Samsung extradegy is always release their new flaship with the updated OS while leaving other phone behind. We wont see android pie on the note 9 until after the GS10 release in march (or so) with pie include has the new OS. Samsung will just release security patches every 2 or 3 month until this.
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That would be worse than the Note8 Oreo time frame! It had better be better than THAT! Haha.
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Oreo for the note 8 came the beginning of april
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Oreo for the note 8 came the beginning of april
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Ugh, that is right... I forgot. I was using those early Oreo ROMs for the Note8 way earlier, but forgot the official wasn't until around 4/1.
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Ugh, that is right... I forgot. I was using those early Oreo ROMs for the Note8 way earlier, but forgot the official wasn't until around 4/1.
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Yeah I think the first of those dropped in what dec
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Yeah I think the first of those dropped in what dec
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Somewhere in that neighborhood, yeah. It would be cool if the same happened on the Note9!
treble might provides updates a bit faster but I have had the galaxy s3, s5, s7e,s8 and now note 9 and updates were always very late and I think it would always be like that. maybe faster with treble but won't ever get updates as fast as others and we are going to wait months but I am sure no one has bought the note 9 or samsung phones for the fast updates ^^
After all the hulalbaloos and deep dives, lately I've been pronouncing it as "project trouble" for Galaxy flagships.
Working Pie GSI Rom for S9+
Since the hardware is exactly the same, will it work with Note 9?
<The guy in the video claims it should work on the Note9 too>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVsYd1rlMKo
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Should we expect Android 9 to come to the Note9 faster than previous updates on notes due to project Treble? Is that thing actually doing anything? The Note8 took FOREVER to get Oreo. Was that a Project Treble phone too? If so, I guess I should anticipate waiting until like February/March again, which is a shame for a flagship phone like this. I'd be pleased if it was out before 2019 begins. That's more than enough time I think.
What do you guys think?
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i have stopped myself from getting samsung since years ago due to the poor software updates. And i do not expect note 9 to be faster than any predecessors. i would still be alright if note 9 will never get Android Pie till 2020 (or neveR). Thats samsung and people should have expected that. Reasons i got myself the device was due to the 5 pillars of smartphone which Note9 did well, go watch the video by mkbhd.
This is really good news! Already, there is a Pie version of S9+ with Samsung Experience 10! It may be in its infant stages, but as the article mentions, that's at least a couple months faster than the last cycle (to Oreo), and this seems like a larger update.
https://www.xda-developers.com/excl...msung-experience-10-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s9/
PsiPhiDan said:
This is really good news! Already, there is a Pie version of S9+ with Samsung Experience 10! It may be in its infant stages, but as the article mentions, that's at least a couple months faster than the last cycle (to Oreo), and this seems like a larger update.
https://www.xda-developers.com/excl...msung-experience-10-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s9/
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Isn't it the case every year ?
Last year, I remember there was even a beta program for the S8.
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Isn't it the case every year ?
Last year, I remember there was even a beta program for the S8.
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Yes, but as I mentioned, it is two months ahead of last year's schedule with the S8+.
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Yes, but as I mentioned, it is two months ahead of last year's schedule with the S8+.
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I'm pretty sure that last year the registration for the S8 Beta program began the first week of November and the first official beta release was just after that (I think around the 5 November or something like that).
Here, we have just a leaked firmware, around 1 month earlier than last week official beta. So don't get too excited.
Edit : I did a quick search and I find that the second beta firmware was released on the 10th of November last year.
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/www.sam...-android-8-0-oreo-beta-firmware-released/amp/
So, I really doubt things will be quicker this year.
Well if the Pie update is indeed released in January, then that would be a pretty big improvement in my world (especially with how much more significant of an update this is)! Project Treble for the win?
Android Q was officially released today for pixel phones, so does anyone have a guess as to when it will reach this device? Also, is there anywhere online I could find a detailed look at all the changes in the new OS?
It's not Android Q, it's Android 10. And that question is impossible to answer. 3rd-parties to Google don't start rolling-out these updates for at least a few months after initial release unless you're part of a beta/tester program.
Android Q(Globally named) aka Android 10 with One UI 2.0 in case of Samsung .... probably max to December or in worst case at the beginning of 2020... Most probably, as on previous updates(major ones), November this year...
My bet - February 2020.
Based on Note 8 and Pie release dates.
So 5 months to wait.
It's even less than half a year [emoji14]
Looking at the latest reports from Samsung we won't be getting an official version, but I assume people will port from something similar or build from source all being well?
I think Android 10 can release for note 8 , samsung was change the updates policy ,but the bad think is it only change after note 8 release , so may or not get 3 updates... s9 and note 9 Will receive 3 os updates
Is their any official news abt note 8 getting A10?
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Is their any official news abt note 8 getting A10?
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No have any official News if will receive or not, but samsung only updates 2 major os , samsung change updates policy to 3 major os updates but after note 8 release..
The thing I've noticed about Samsung though is that even though the next version of Android is released, the new flagship seem to ALWAYS be released with the prior version of Android ( note 10 with pie, this should have been released with Android 10). This means about a month, 2 or 3 months on they Officially upgrade it and thus have fulfilled their commitment of one major upgrade. About a year later out comes the next major upgrade and that model has now been dropped from the upgrade program. Seems a bit of a con to me, now they do the 3 major upgrades this might actually mean support for the full 2 year life expectancy of our phones...
Hope not! Note 8 its prety stable with Pie 9.0! Realy hope Samsung do not update Note 8!
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Hope not! Note 8 its prety stable with Pie 9.0! Realy hope Samsung do not update Note 8!
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It's true , with lastest update battery life is good , btw I wish android 10 update and seems it will roll out for us , I hope android 10 can increase note 8 battery life
Please I need help with manual update.
Below is my device info
Product Code SM-N950UZVAXAS
PDA N950USQU4CRF3
CSC N950UOYN3CRF2
Baseband N950USQS5CRKI
Bootloader N950USQS5CRKI
danilisilva7 said:
It's true , with lastest update battery life is good , btw I wish android 10 update and seems it will roll out for us , I hope android 10 can increase note 8 battery life
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Lets just hope that Samsung won't suddenly push an OTA that would slowly kill the device / make this device a brick, I owned the Note Edge Exynos variant (The OTA for Android 6.0.1 and their security updates slowly killed the device). Hope this doesn't happen to Note8, I am using Android 9 OneUI 1.0 (February Security update :silly
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No have any official News if will receive or not, but samsung only updates 2 major os , samsung change updates policy to 3 major os updates but after note 8 release..
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but i saw news on mspoweruser that Samsung is officially releasing one ui 2 on s8 and s8+ but they r skipping note 8.
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but i saw news on mspoweruser that Samsung is officially releasing one ui 2 on s8 and s8+ but they r skipping note 8.
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If that's the case then Android 10 would definitely possible for the Note8 via Custom ROMs and stuff, but then again Note8 is newer than the S8 (why would they even think of doing that). I still kind of get it, cause I believe S10 kind of got the Beta for Android 10 before Note10.
Isn't there a way/possibility to port the lastest Android 10 & One UI 2.0 based Note 10+ Rom for our Note8?
Hey guys,
Anyone got any hope or info if OneUI 2.5 is going to come to our beloved Note9? Samsung mentioning that third-party gestures would be fixed in 2.5 in early 2020 and also the fact that there are hidden experimental OneUI 2.5 Gallery features (you can unlock them by going to About Gallery inside the app and tapping the build number 7 times, then a new settings section will come up) makes me wonder if there's a chance. I just wish & hope that the Note9 would end its support on OneUI 2.5 as a Christmas present for us After all the S9 and S9+ got OneUI 2.1 even though their 2 year support cycle expired before that.
August 5th!
Nope
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Hey guys,
Anyone got any hope or info if OneUI 2.5 is going to come to our beloved Note9? Samsung mentioning that third-party gestures would be fixed in 2.5 in early 2020 and also the fact that there are hidden experimental OneUI 2.5 Gallery features (you can unlock them by going to About Gallery inside the app and tapping the build number 7 times, then a new settings section will come up) makes me wonder if there's a chance. I just wish & hope that the Note9 would end its support on OneUI 2.5 as a Christmas present for us After all the S9 and S9+ got OneUI 2.1 even though their 2 year support cycle expired before that.
August 5th!
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I think it will get one ui 2.5 if it is a separate roll out.
if it is rolled out with android 11 then it becomes doubtful.
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I think it will get one ui 2.5 if it is a separate roll out.
if it is rolled out with android 11 then it becomes doubtful.
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It will definitely be on Android 10. OneUI 3.0 is coming with Android 11 next year but since the Note20 etc will have OneUI 2.5 it's 100% on Android 10 as we're months away from the official Android 11 from Google.
koragg97 said:
It will definitely be on Android 10. OneUI 3.0 is coming with Android 11 next year but since the Note20 etc will have OneUI 2.5 it's 100% on Android 10 as we're months away from the official Android 11 from Google.
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yes looking at samsungs track record they always launch their note series with older android versions ... so yeah it will be on android 10 ... so i think there is like a 70% chance that we will get it most probably.
I'm just getting one ui 2.1 right now downloading as we speak.
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I'm just getting one ui 2.1 right now downloading as we speak.
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Yeah, not sure why, but AT&T was really asleep at the trigger this time - I just got mine two nights ago!
I wouldn't hold out hope for it. Even though the Note 9 is hands down the best, its simply old in terms of phone years.
It may be rough to hear, but we've seen the last of updates like 2.1 .
If we do, we will get a watered down version with some features missing... It will also be a while as it has to trickle down through from the 20 series, through the 10 series to finally dribble onto our Note 9's and S9's...
If we get it, it won't be until after the new year...
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If we do, we will get a watered down version with some features missing... It will also be a while as it has to trickle down through from the 20 series, through the 10 series to finally dribble onto our Note 9's and S9's...
If we get it, it won't be until after the new year...
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Better late than never though. We're in no hurry lol
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Better late than never though. We're in no hurry lol
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Yeah, but as I said, IF....
Some news: https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-9-s9-eligible-one-ui-2-5-update/
yes there is hope...https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-one-ui-2-5-list
Since S20 is already receiving it, S10/N10 will probably get it with the September update. October for us would be optimistic.
Nevertheless, that was not expected at all.
I guess my Christmas wish would come true lol
https://sakitechonline.com/2020/08/22/list-of-all-samsung-smartphones-that-will-get-one-ui-2-5/
I went to the sammobile page every day like clockwork for all of November. Was doing the same for December and finally saw it.
It didn't pop up until TODAY, December 7th, 2022, despite being labeled November 29th, 2022.
But its here. Interest in this device seemed to evaporate with Android 11, so I have no idea if Android 12 or 13 can be rooted at all. Unless a clear answer to that, and if the old rooting technique will work, and if magisk can still be used or if some sort of alternative is necessary, guess I'll stick to 10.
But for the handful that still have the phone and don't root, Android 13 is finally here.
On this phone I would stay on 9 or 10. Android 13 is so far worse than 12 and many have rolled back to 11 from 12. CPU cycle sucking scoped storage is active from 11 up with more security garbage piled into 12, think 13 will be any better?
Or more of the same crap?
I'm not buying the Google hype, both Google and Samsung are on a 3 year losing streak of bad choices and products. Obviously you can upgrade at any time; let Mikey try it first
Can someone provide changelog please ?
any change ONE UI 5.1? Since S10 Lite already get it
PJng89 said:
any change ONE UI 5.1? Since S10 Lite already get it
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The last update was in March and its now June. Guess the March update was the last one ever for the Note 10 Lite. :/
RodimusConvoy said:
The last update was in March and its now June. Guess the March update was the last one ever for the Note 10 Lite. :/
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Yes, well... it might take some time if they do release updates for this old model. I would have left running on Pie.
Who's laughing now?
blackhawk said:
Yes, well... it might take some time if they do release updates for this old model. I would have left running on Pie.
Who's laughing now?
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I actually stayed on 10 with this phone, since I was unsure if I upgraded if the same root method would still work.
But I've been following the updates out of morbid curiosity + the longshot hope someone would be brave enough to try with a more current (11 and up) iteration of Android. Alas.
RodimusConvoy said:
I actually stayed on 10 with this phone, since I was unsure if I upgraded if the same root method would still work.
But I've been following the updates out of morbid curiosity + the longshot hope someone would be brave enough to try with a more current (11 and up) iteration of Android. Alas.
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I have two N10+'s one running on 9, the newer on 10. Very unlikely either will ever be upgraded.
The Pie one seems to run best and is easier to work with. Current load is 3 yo now, still fast and stable; no way I'm messing with that.
Personally I wouldn't upgrade past 10 as you will lose more than you gain. Both 9 and 10 are secure unless you do stupid things.
Less downtime means more playtime...
RodimusConvoy said:
The last update was in March and its now June. Guess the March update was the last one ever for the Note 10 Lite. :/
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some region started get jun patch, and not no more monthly update
PJng89 said:
some region started get jun patch, and not no more monthly update
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huh yeah I see that now. First time its skipped multiple months. Its dated June 18th.