Is there a "pure" rom out there? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

By "pure" i mean a rom that only includes samsung and google stuff nothing more (like no briefing app, or microsoft apps, or facebook apps or anything else really that isn't by samsung or google. Heck I'd prefer if the apps that are from google and samsung are uninstallable too)

In that case you would probably want an android one version of android for your device. I would recommend that you find a 3rd party Custom OS for your device. As all stock Samsung OSes come with Google and Samsung bloatware installed on them as standard

iceepyon said:
In that case you would probably want an android one version of android for your device. I would recommend that you find a 3rd party Custom OS for your device. As all stock Samsung OSes come with Google and Samsung bloatware installed on them as standard
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I dont want android one tho, I want oneui 2 without any extra additions.

You could use a Debloat script.
Something like this should work: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73894621&postcount=23
(I would delete the lines for memo and desktop launcher (DeX) because I use those features, go through and make sure you aren't removing something you actually want to use)
If there are still apps you want to remove then use an app like Package List to find their package name, then use ADB to uninstall them.
Other than that, You could always install the Unlocked Version's ROM. I know the N960U1 (US unlocked) has very little bloat from stock, only a handful of Google Apps and I believe Facebook preinstalled.
The N960F XEF variant is similar I believe.

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Importing apk's from other roms

Is it possible to pull apps from a newer rom on the magic (say a customer 1.6/2.0 rom) to a older more stable from (1.5 in my case)?
I would like to replace the browser and gallery apps, as well as add the vpn service or add spare parts.
Some apps install via a file manager (using the apk files) and others just say this cannot be installed on this phone.
i dont think thats possible!!
theskillster said:
Is it possible to pull apps from a newer rom on the magic (say a customer 1.6/2.0 rom) to a older more stable from (1.5 in my case)?
I would like to replace the browser and gallery apps, as well as add the vpn service or add spare parts.
Some apps install via a file manager (using the apk files) and others just say this cannot be installed on this phone.
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Technically yes.. but will it work? not really. Many of these new apps use new library files not compatible and not available on older rom.
silvertag said:
Technically yes.. but will it work? not really. Many of these new apps use new library files not compatible and not available on older rom.
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Thanks, Shame really.
I'm getting fantastic battery life, on a old 1.5 custom rom, but there are so many handy and much needed apps included in other roms which aren't on the marketplace and wont install on 1.5.

Stock GS-G530T without google?

I am a noob that wants to mod his stock Grand Prime G530T to be without any Google/Samsung/Tmobile bloat. To many phones these days have some many apps I never use and disable, yet they still take space and some times are loaded a boot. I want to install all the 10 or less apps by .apk and forget about the rest.
Anyway I can do this?
remusrm said:
I am a noob that wants to mod his stock Grand Prime G530T to be without any Google/Samsung/Tmobile bloat. To many phones these days have some many apps I never use and disable, yet they still take space and some times are loaded a boot. I want to install all the 10 or less apps by .apk and forget about the rest.
Anyway I can do this?
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Check out this ROM. This ROM is based of touchwiz 5.1 and all of the bloatwares of T-MOBILE and Samsung are removed and also some additional features are added as well.
Also please try it at your own risk as I didn't try out this ROM myself (because I don't own G530T. I have G530H).
ROM Link - https://forum.xda-developers.com/grand-prime/development/rom-gwiz-rom-v1-1-t3374727
Additionaly if you have Root access on your phone then then you don't have to Root since you can remove the bloatwares by using a Root explorer.

Any easy way to delete apps from a Samsung stock ROM?

Hi,
I have a Samsung Note 8 SM-N950F Smartphone and I hope if I can delete some unwanted apps from a stock Samsung ROM before installing it on my device, I want to remove some Samsung and Google apps.
BR
Meky22 said:
Hi,
I have a Samsung Note 8 SM-N950F Smartphone and I hope if I can delete some unwanted apps from a stock Samsung ROM before installing it on my device, I want to remove some Samsung and Google apps.
BR
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It would just trip Knox as stock filmware has been altered, if there was a way to do that.
You are better off using a package disabler on the playstore or disable them via adb - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....arrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/amp/
You can try Samsung Member Apps from Play Store.Check Diagnostic>Unused Apps>Check which one you never/rarely used>Delete.

Is there a Magisk module to remove all google apps and services?

I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
Didgeridoohan said:
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
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Thank you for the reply. I agree but from my research I could not find custom ROMs available for the Pixel 3 that are officially supported and stable. Please recommend one if there is one that is officially supported and stable. If there is not I would like to know the steps after I root a phone to remove all the google apps and services.
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
castrum_doloris said:
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services. You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora. When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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To get rid of issues, uninstall any google apps you want systemlessly using Debloater ( Terminal Emulator ).
ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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You are in luck. Get a huawei phone.
Sent from my SM-G985F using Tapatalk
ToughDBlue said:
Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
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You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora.
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MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
ToughDBlue said:
When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
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No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
ToughDBlue said:
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
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I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
Lineage is available for Pixel 3. It is unofficial, but built by someone on the Lineage team. Check the Pixel 3xl forum. Most custom roms are posted there, but are actually for both devices. The thing is, most custom roms for the device come with GAPPs included (Including Lineage), so not useful for you. This is getting OT though.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. Very helpful. I decided to get a Oneplus 7T and not a Pixel 3. I did research and found that most custom ROMs for the Oneplus 7T do not officially support Android 10 as well as MicroG and TWRP. The unofficial custom ROMs note that there are bugs and some instability currently. Being a newbie and needing my Oneplus 7T to be reliable as it's my only phone I rather have an officially supported LineageOS with MicroG custom ROM when it's released. Until then I need help figuring out the best method to remove all gapps and services. I don't use any google apps. I do use Microsoft apps so I need those to not only work but be able to send notifications. I also need to have location services work for a non-google maps app and weather app. I would like to keep Oxygen OS as it has some customizations features I like. Am I asking too much? Lol. However, since microG is not supported I don't think I can do what I'm looking for since MicroG removes all gapps and services and replaces them including location services ability and notifications. Does Magisk have a module that can do what I'm looking for?
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
Didgeridoohan said:
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
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I couldn't find the Manager downloads on the OP7T forum. Can you provide a direct link to the Manager downloads?
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
Didgeridoohan said:
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
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Got it. Thank you for your help!

Help to de-google my phone

G'day
I'm sick of google and everything they are about. Don't be evil my arse. I already do the simple stuff like using brave browser and duck duck go search. I'm hoping someone can advise me on how to strip my phone of as much google as possible and replace with aosp alternatives. Or even just point me towards some guides on it.
I am using a Samsung galaxy a22 5g rooted with magisk stock rom.
Thanks
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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de-google
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i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
hajdulak said:
I found that uptodown does host apks
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do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
loopypalm said:
do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
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Nice, thanks for that! ♥
hajdulak said:
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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Hey thanks for the reply and info. Flashing an aosp custom rom would be my usual go to. However I've been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
loopypalm said:
i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
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Cheers for this. Agree on the first statement but having been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom? If safe and stable I'm happy to do the research because I'd love to get a custom aosp rom going on this.
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
I used to flash heaps of roms and kernels on older devices but this whole GSI thing is new to me. If it's dicey I'll go the TB route with the folders you pointed me to. Cheers
Champdroid said:
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom?
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if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
Champdroid said:
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
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looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
Champdroid said:
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
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sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
loopypalm said:
if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
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Cool cheers for your help mate. Touche on the last point. New job with nice pay bump coming so that will be the go I think.
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
I built a Magisk module for this some time ago. However, it's very likely that it won't work anymore and will probably cause a bootloop. I'm only posting it in case someone wants to use the repo as inspiration.
Kermina Awad / DeGoogle · GitLab
Google? A Magisk module which removes, Google?
gitlab.com
MartK87 said:
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
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you forgot to mention that both GrapheneOS and CalyXOS are available ONLY for the Pixel phones
and the Pixels have a unique feature - the bootloader can be locked back AFTER flashing a custom ROM
Well I stand corrected ( said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)
want de-google? buy and iphone and done

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