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Any way to make Android Pay actually work?

I've always loved the idea of being able to pay (at a lot of places, now) using NFC technology. Unfortunately, root access, xposed, and now a custom rom (Props to the EpicROM team!) have always out prioritized the NFC payment feature.
I've read a great deal about Magisk, and so I know how it works, but afaik EpicROM is packaged with SuperSU and so there isn't a straightforward way to use one of the compatible superuser apps. So, my question is (and the custom rom issue might be a bit much to tackle, but it's worth asking), has ANYONE managed to get Android Pay working on their Mix?
Also, I searched around for a good bit, only to find the answer elude me: Are there acceptable substitutes for Android Pay that do the same thing (NFC payment, "tap and go"?) and are accepted by most point of sale setups?

bigcc32 said:
I've always loved the idea of being able to pay (at a lot of places, now) using NFC technology. Unfortunately, root access, xposed, and now a custom rom (Props to the EpicROM team!) have always out prioritized the NFC payment feature.
I've read a great deal about Magisk, and so I know how it works, but afaik EpicROM is packaged with SuperSU and so there isn't a straightforward way to use one of the compatible superuser apps. So, my question is (and the custom rom issue might be a bit much to tackle, but it's worth asking), has ANYONE managed to get Android Pay working on their Mix?
Also, I searched around for a good bit, only to find the answer elude me: Are there acceptable substitutes for Android Pay that do the same thing (NFC payment, "tap and go"?) and are accepted by most point of sale setups?
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To pass safety net you need to
1. Be unrooted
2. Have an official rom, which is stable (not developer)
3. Have a locked bootloader
So most probably, Magisk will not help you on this
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Nikos2k said:
To pass safety net you need to
1. Be unrooted
2. Have an official rom, which is stable (not developer)
3. Have a locked bootloader
So most probably, Magisk will not help you on this
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Yeah the three things you listed there are things I think I'd rather have than the slight inconvenience of having to actually pull out my wallet to pay for things.
In an ideal world we'd all be able to pay with PayPal using NFC technology, but oh well.

There is a kernel patch which fakes a verifiedboot state; you can try that.
https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
Which you can apply to: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss

adwinp said:
There is a kernel patch which fakes a verifiedboot state; you can try that.
https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
Which you can apply to: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss
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I'm usually pretty technologically literate, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Part of the first URL you linked includes the words "oneplus," suggesting to me that it might not be as simple as just running that command line script. I don't expect to be spoon-fed information, but links to any related threads would be much appreciated.

I relocked my bootloader after I installed the official Global rom. I can add my credit cards but I can't get it to pay for anything at a terminal. It just doesn't launch at all.

Instead of flashing patched kernel, I would recommend flashing resurrection rom instead.

what are the pros and cons (if any) of Magisk over SuperSU ? i apologize if this is

i searched for some info but couldn't find any at a glance so perhaps I will just ask you guys. I apologize if this is a FAQ and i just missed it. i have supersu. i wonder if i should move to Magisk ?
1. what are the pros of Magisk
2. any downsides of Magisk ?
3. is there any tutorial for converting from SuperSU to Magisk ? i managed to get TWRP and SuperSU because someone else did it on my phone. that person is no longer be able to help. different country different timezone. not a friend either. it was a paid service done in Hongkong where and when I bought the phone.
again I apologize if this is a FAQ. I'm a noob. I hope you guys can point me in the right direction. I just want to set this phone right from the get go. it's a virgin phone. haven't install anything yet. well i install Titanium Backup just to make sure root is working. 99% virgin i guess. thank you for any help and pointers
EDIT # 1 : forgot to add this is about Samsung Galaxy S9+ S9650 Snapdragon running 8.0 just in case it matters to those who want to contribute some info
EDIT # 2 : most likely won't be using this phone for Android Pay, SnapChat. but I would like to use this phone for banking apps. i'm not really into snapchat, instagrams, etc. me old timer

forgot to add this is about Samsung Galaxy S9+ S9650 Snapdragon running 8.0 just in case it matters to those who want to contribute some info

Open source. Actively maintined. Root hiding. Systemless modifications. Big community. Etc...
Possibly not compatible with as many devices as SuperSU was.
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magis..._another_systemless_root_solution_to_MagiskSU

wow thank you for your feedback
Didgeridoohan said:
Open source. Actively maintined. Root hiding. Systemless modifications. Big community. Etc...
Possibly not compatible with as many devices as SuperSU was.
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QX7337 said:
wow thank you for your feedback
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Is supersu even being developed anymore? I'd love to have at least some sort of crappy Plan B as it looks like magisk has a possibility of dying.

Burt Squirtz said:
Is supersu even being developed anymore? I'd love to have at least some sort of crappy Plan B as it looks like magisk has a possibility of dying.
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I still don't understand how come Google knew who he/she really we and recruited

Is there a Magisk module to remove all google apps and services?

I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!

Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.

Didgeridoohan said:
Easiest would be to just flash a custom ROM and don't bother with installing Gapps. Voilà, free of Google apps and services.
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Thank you for the reply. I agree but from my research I could not find custom ROMs available for the Pixel 3 that are officially supported and stable. Please recommend one if there is one that is officially supported and stable. If there is not I would like to know the steps after I root a phone to remove all the google apps and services.

https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.

castrum_doloris said:
https://f-droid.org/app/org.droidtr.deletegapps
But its very likely to experience bugs and problems (like force closes). The best option is to use a custom Rom
Or you can try the Nanodroid Module (to install microG), probably better than just remove GApps.
AuroraDroid/-store works as it should. I don't know what you mean by 'safe'.
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Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services. You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora. When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.

ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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To get rid of issues, uninstall any google apps you want systemlessly using Debloater ( Terminal Emulator ).

ToughDBlue said:
I'm looking to get an Android phone but I don't want any google apps or services on it including the play store. Is there a Magisk module that can remove all the google apps and services and play store from a phone? I did a search for "remove google apps" and other such searches but could not find what I'm looking for. I see that the Aurora app store is an alternative play store. Is it safe to use?
Thank you for your advice!
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You are in luck. Get a huawei phone.
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ToughDBlue said:
Thank you for the reply. Ok I really would rather use a custom ROM. LineageOS to be precise but there is no official support for the Pixel 3. That's why I'm asking if there is a way, after rooting the phone, to remove all the google apps and services.
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"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
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You mentioned MicroG but does that actually remove all the google apps and services? I looked up MicroG and it looks to be for people who still want to use google apps and services but securely. I don't use anything google apps or services. There are some Microsoft apps I need for work so that's why I asked about Aurora.
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MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
ToughDBlue said:
When I asked if Aurora is safe I meant does Aurora track or do anything unsecure.
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No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
ToughDBlue said:
Is there a LineageOS custom ROM that does work with the Pixel 3? If not then do I use MicroG to remove all the google stuff?
Sorry to ask so many questions. I've spent hours researching this stuff and there is so much info I read up on that I just need some clarity. Thanks for your patience.
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I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help

Lineage is available for Pixel 3. It is unofficial, but built by someone on the Lineage team. Check the Pixel 3xl forum. Most custom roms are posted there, but are actually for both devices. The thing is, most custom roms for the device come with GAPPs included (Including Lineage), so not useful for you. This is getting OT though.

castrum_doloris said:
"Official" and "unofficial" are quite often just terms to clarify, if the builder is part of the dev-team and/or if the Rom/Code is reviewed by one of the dev-team. It is possible, that an unofficial Rom isn't working as good as an official would, but I experienced this quite rarely.
BUT: unofficials usually don't have the possibility to OTA update.
But in the end, "official" and "unofficial" doesn't have to mean much
So my tip: Install and try some Roms, unofficial ones too ^_^
MicroG is an open source and privacy focused Google Services Framework. Its goal is to let apps work, which rely on GApps. I suggested it to grant a bit more stability to your un-googled stock Rom. Because the GApps are most likely deep buried into your (Stock)System, which can lead to severe instability and crashes if you just forcibly rip them out.
At least that's my experience. I never had a usable system with a blank removal of GApps
On a custom Rom its not necessary, if all apps you use work without GApps
No, Aurora is safe as far as I know (I'm using it myself)
If you are in doubt (and able to) you can check its source code
I can try to check later. An "official" Lineage is quite unlikely, but maybe I find smth else
But yes, if you can't find a fitting Rom, you'll have to try with manually debloating/microG.
You can try to debloat your phone slowly with "Terminal Debloater" like someone already suggested.
One App/Service after another. If smth breaks, you can simply revert it, because this works systemless
No problem, just ask XDA is a forum and I'm here to help
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. Very helpful. I decided to get a Oneplus 7T and not a Pixel 3. I did research and found that most custom ROMs for the Oneplus 7T do not officially support Android 10 as well as MicroG and TWRP. The unofficial custom ROMs note that there are bugs and some instability currently. Being a newbie and needing my Oneplus 7T to be reliable as it's my only phone I rather have an officially supported LineageOS with MicroG custom ROM when it's released. Until then I need help figuring out the best method to remove all gapps and services. I don't use any google apps. I do use Microsoft apps so I need those to not only work but be able to send notifications. I also need to have location services work for a non-google maps app and weather app. I would like to keep Oxygen OS as it has some customizations features I like. Am I asking too much? Lol. However, since microG is not supported I don't think I can do what I'm looking for since MicroG removes all gapps and services and replaces them including location services ability and notifications. Does Magisk have a module that can do what I'm looking for?

You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.

Didgeridoohan said:
You'll likely find better help in the OP7T forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t
There is a debloater module you could use for this purpose, you'll find it on the Manager downloads section. Keep in mind that anything you do with a Magisk module is a systemless modification and the files will still be on your device (just masked by Magisk) and will return if you every disable/uninstall the module or remove Magisk. If you want a more permanent solution you'll need to use other means.
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I couldn't find the Manager downloads on the OP7T forum. Can you provide a direct link to the Manager downloads?

The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.

Didgeridoohan said:
The "Manager downloads" is in the Magisk Manager, the app.
What I meant was that it will likely be easier for you to find help with debloating the device in its own forum.
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Got it. Thank you for your help!

Pixel 4a 5g. Open Gapps. Twrp.

Right I will start by saying, I am loving my new pixel and I will also say there is a "but" that "but" is I have now installed a custom ROM Lineage OS I also really enjoy this ROM though unlike most phones twrp is not yet supporting this device further more neither is Open Gapps meaning no WhatsApp , no pogo and many apps just won't work, I have been scratching my head on how to get past this or how long for this device to be supported, I don't want to switch to factory ROM as I'm not for google keeping constant tabs on my habits.
Any suggestions, and let's have a discussion as I am hyped about my new phone.

mlolz93 said:
Right I will start by saying, I am loving my new pixel and I will also say there is a "but" that "but" is I have now installed a custom ROM Lineage OS I also really enjoy this ROM though unlike most phones twrp is not yet supporting this device further more neither is Open Gapps meaning no WhatsApp , no pogo and many apps just won't work, I have been scratching my head on how to get past this or how long for this device to be supported, I don't want to switch to factory ROM as I'm not for google keeping constant tabs on my habits.
Any suggestions, and let's have a discussion as I am hyped about my new phone.
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First, this thread should be moved to the "Guides, news and discussion" forum.
Second, as far as I now, most apps will start and work with microG as far as it is properly setup'd. If you want Gapps, you can install a systemless Gapps via Magisk. I already wrote about... Just read the Lineage thread!

Voodoojonny said:
First, this thread should be moved to the "Guides, news and discussion" forum.
Second, as far as I now, most apps will start and work with microG as far as it is properly setup'd. If you want Gapps, you can install a systemless Gapps via Magisk. I already wrote about... Just read the Lineage thread!
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Thank you for the heads up, I've not been much of a poster on here. I do have microG pre installed but WhatsApp isn't playing nice and I've not been able to find the systemless option I'll find the thread you speak of cheers

Use systemless WeebGapps via Magisk:
t.me/WeebGAppsChannel

Galaxy Notes on M21

Hey all!
The only reason I changed to Samsung M21 was my need to read notes on my phone I wrote in Samsung Notes on other device (Samsung Galaxy Tab S4). And I was very surprised and disappointed, when I reallized they don't allow to update Samsung Notes app on M21 to the latest version. Now it's 3.* on M21 and 4.* on Tab S4, so it even doesn't show me my notes. It is funny, but cheaper A20 has 4.* version. It returns with error if I try to install latest .apk of the app, Galaxy Store shows only 3.*.
Are here any solutions? Maybe, some custom ROM or kinda forced installing?

Probably because M21 has One UI Core. Sadly, there's nothing you can do about it if you're not rooted.

Thank you for the answer, Fredin_. It is no problem to root the phone, isn't it? My previous phones were rooted, so I had a little experience. Could you please tell more about solutions after I do it.

Shikaroy said:
Thank you for the answer, Fredin_. It is no problem to root the phone, isn't it? My previous phones were rooted, so I had a little experience. Could you please tell more about solutions after I do it.
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It shouldn't be a big deal, nothing is broken for me and banking apps work after hiding the magisk app, using magisk hide and passing safetynet, though I did come across one app that refused to work.
You need to disable signature verification somehow (the easiest way would be to use luckypatcher) and install the apk using Split APK Installer using the root method. If that doesn't work, you can try installing the app as a system app, most apps should work with either of these methods.
But if you are happy with android 10, then an even better alternative would be to use Totsuka OS. It's a OneUI port, so you can just install stuff from the galaxy store or playstore.

Fredin_ said:
It shouldn't be a big deal, nothing is broken for me and banking apps work after hiding the magisk app, using magisk hide and passing safetynet, though I did come across one app that refused to work.
You need to disable signature verification somehow (the easiest way would be to use luckypatcher) and install the apk using Split APK Installer using the root method. If that doesn't work, you can try installing the app as a system app, most apps should work with either of these methods.
But if you are happy with android 10, then an even better alternative would be to use Totsuka OS. It's a OneUI port, so you can just install stuff from the galaxy store or playstore.
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Thank you very much! I just was going to buy A51 for that app. I don't event know difference between Android 10 and 11, so will read more and make the choice at this weekend. Wish me luck and TY again

Shikaroy said:
Thank you very much! I just was going to buy A51 for that app. I don't event know difference between Android 10 and 11, so will read more and make the choice at this weekend. Wish me luck and TY again
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Yeah, then Totsuka will be good for you, pretty much bugless. Don't forget to flash the keystore fix after flashing it tho.
Good luck.

Fredin_ said:
Yeah, then Totsuka will be good for you, pretty much bugless. Don't forget to flash the keystore fix after flashing it tho.
Good luck.
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Sorry, the problem solved

Shikaroy said:
Sorry, the problem solved
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Nice

Ditch SNotes now or it will bite you even harder. Samsung is notorious for lack of legacy support with this apk, as I know all too well. Cut&pasted more of these notes than I care to remember to salvage them
I use ColorNote now. You can hyperlink directly from them so you can use it for saving bookmarks too. It will store backups on a SD card and you can export backups to the PC.
This app it's self doesn't need internet connection to function... in fact I always block it with Karma Firewall.
Save an installable copy of it if you decide to use it... never trust Playstore.