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I do not have a rooted phone, nor do I ever intend to root so please keep that in mind when responding. Thank you.
My question is this, if I disable every single 'contextual' thing that the Moto X does; for example: twisting wrist for camera, active display, motorola assist, touchless control, etc.
Will the low power processors still run, scanning for detection (sensor pings, accelerometer checks, microphone still listening) if everything is disabled?
Just trying to figure it out because say I wanted to disable everything to squeeze out some battery life, would I be doing it in vain or would it actually shut down those 2 extra processors (language processing/contextual processing) if I am not using any of the services?
I am by no means a phone genius, but I am a pretty smart computer nerd and don't know if anyone has insights about how the phone kernel actually handles this situation. All my research on this matter just finds the very bland and generalized description of the X8 and just what it does.
From my understanding of the X8 soc the 2 extra low power cores are always on. They were also designed to be as power efficient as possible. So disabling all of the apps it handles might not do much in way of power saving. However, if you were to disable all of the moto services I believe the 2 cores will still run but use up a lot less clock cycles since there wouldn't be anything for them to execute. But doing so will also make the moto x that much less of a phone. Its a nice experiment there's no harm in it. Most of the moto apps are allowed to be disabled. If no battery improvements then just revert everything you disabled.
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Well I disabled everything but active display and I can say I have seen a massive increase in battery life. So basically even if the processors are low powered they are still powered and taking battery. I'm going to disable active display tonight before charging and go thru a workday and give an update tomorrow. I suspect I will get another increase in battery life. As of now the increase was significant, I normally take my phone off the charger before I go to sleep at midnight, do a restart and check the battery at 8am. I normally have been losing 4% every single night with everything enabled. That's moto connect, Touch less control, active display. With them all disabled my battery stayed at 100% 2 nights in a row so far
I suppose it's all a matter of context. Compared to my Samsung GS3 (Verizon) I'm seeing MASSIVELY better battery life (>2X) without playing any tricks to modify the stock experience. Some if it may be from going from a CDMA base to GSM. With low radio signal CDMA seems to suck down the battery quickly. It always seems difficult to definitively figure out what is really causing high battery drain when it happens.
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Well I disabled everything but active display and I can say I have seen a massive increase in battery life. So basically even if the processors are low powered they are still powered and taking battery. I'm going to disable active display tonight before charging and go thru a workday and give an update tomorrow. I suspect I will get another increase in battery life. As of now the increase was significant, I normally take my phone off the charger before I go to sleep at midnight, do a restart and check the battery at 8am. I normally have been losing 4% every single night with everything enabled. That's moto connect, Touch less control, active display. With them all disabled my battery stayed at 100% 2 nights in a row so far
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Thanks for the update.
While you say that your battery has increased in standby time, has it increase in SOT?
Would you mind putting up screenshots of you're battery at 75% 50% 25% ?
Would you be able to make a list of all moto services you disabled while still maintaining the active display feature.
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Alright, been busy past few days. I will be posting screenshots with screen time starting now (unplugs phone from charger)
This is the list of EVERYTHING I have disabled, I am running un-rooted Moto X Motomaker edition on Verizon.
Disabled:
Active Display
Audio Effects
Caller Name ID
com.motorola.moodles
Device Management
Email
Google Pinyin Input
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
HP Print Service Plugin
Mobile Hotspot
Moto Care
Motorola Assist
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Connect
Motorola Contextual Services
Motorola DriveActivator
Motorola ID
Motorola Migrate
Motorola SensorHub Updater
Motorola Skip Setup
NFL Mobile
Print Spooler
Sync Service
Touchless Control
Verizon Tones
Verizon Voicemail
VZ Navigator
So today I will been doing my best to take screen shots at 25% increments. If results look promising I will do a factory reset and run everything full stock everything enabled to make a comparison.
Also, I have no WiFi on EVER. I do not use location services either. Basically, my phone is never running anything in the background except vital system processes. Stay tuned for the pics, coming tonight around 11pm CST.
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Haven't been using phone so much, here is everything at 75% will be following up today with 50% and hopefully 25% pics
25% battery update
OK for those of you following here is the update with 25%,battery life. After this I will re-enable everything Motorola on my phone and use the x8 mobile system to its fullest capabilities to have a side by side comparison of what exactly goes on as far as battery life is concerned when the 2 contextual cores are being utilized.
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OK for those of you following here is the update with 25%,battery life. After this I will re-enable everything Motorola on my phone and use the x8 mobile system to its fullest capabilities to have a side by side comparison of what exactly goes on as far as battery life is concerned when the 2 contextual cores are being utilized.
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Thanks for the updates. While getting 27Hrs of usage is great but SOT is much more important. At 25% you have 2 1/2 hr SOT which I don't find that great, considering you lose so many features. I have always average 3 1/2 hrs SOT at 25% with all moto x features on and Google now without location reporting on and that's on LTE 90% of the time.
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Thanks for the updates. While getting 27Hrs of usage is great but SOT is much more important. At 25% you have 2 1/2 hr SOT which I don't find that great, considering you lose so many features. I have always average 3 1/2 hrs SOT at 25% with all moto x features on and Google now without location reporting on and that's on LTE 90% of the time.
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I am just curious, how the HECK do you manage to have 3 hours + of SOT at 25% with everything enabled? that blows me away. is your idle time very low? cause honestly my phone idles longer than its being used, i figure if i had my phone on using it nonstop i could pull off 3 hours with 25% battery, but i work alot and its off more than its on, possibly contributing to the lower SOT in my aspect.
ok, used my phone heavy today, these pics show amazing screen time with 60% battery. i really think disabling contextual services helps, i was using youtube and web browsing on 4g LTE heavily today and here are the results
anyone share their thoughts on this?
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I am just curious, how the HECK do you manage to have 3 hours + of SOT at 25% with everything enabled? that blows me away. is your idle time very low? cause honestly my phone idles longer than its being used, i figure if i had my phone on using it nonstop i could pull off 3 hours with 25% battery, but i work alot and its off more than its on, possibly contributing to the lower SOT in my aspect.
ok, used my phone heavy today, these pics show amazing screen time with 60% battery. i really think disabling contextual services helps, i was using youtube and web browsing on 4g LTE heavily today and here are the results
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I'll take pics tonight I don't usually let my phone run down that low. Except when I was trying to test my battery. For a while I wasn't getting good SOT or stand by times. One day android OS ran down my battery and I got pissed off so I sbf back to 4.2.2. Afterwards I let the ota hit the phone did a factory reset after 4.4. When I was setting up my phone I didn't restore anything from play store just did it manually and it has helped. No more high android OS usage.
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This is at 74% 1hr SOT with Google now and moto services running. And I took a shot of running apps to show that all moto services are running.
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Thanks a lot mawells! I am pretty much concluding that the difference is so negligible that the battery gains do not out-weigh the features you are missing.
I also noticed that you are using backup assistant plus? its an annoying little bugger of an app, have you any way to disable/remove that feature? i am stuck with verizon and i cant seem to stop backup assistant plus from running.
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Thanks a lot mawells! I am pretty much concluding that the difference is so negligible that the battery gains do not out-weigh the features you are missing.
I also noticed that you are using backup assistant plus? its an annoying little bugger of an app, have you any way to disable/remove that feature? i am stuck with verizon and i cant seem to stop backup assistant plus from running.
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No there's no way to disable it I hate it myself. If you are rooted you can freeze it through titanium backup. But as long as its not syncing its not really doing much.
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So having come from Verizon's Note 4 and averaging up to 24hrs on battery running pretty much the same setup as I do now on my T-Mobile Note 4 minus the "Root" & "Custom Rom" abilities. Otherwise, same apps, accounts, usage pattern, ect...
I am on an ongoing battle still after several complete wipes, different Roms including just running STOCK ANK4 and trying to figure out what is going on. Phone defect? Battery defect?
Anyhow, Ever since changing over to both the T-Mobile Note 4 & their service, my experience has been a rather miserable 14 to 18hrs MAX battery life and going from 4hrs screen on time to around 2 1/2 w/ T-Mobile.
Which now leads me yet to wonder something else. I believe I started using the "FingerPrint" security feature since switching to T-Mobile to unlock the device. Has anyone experienced a similar "Battery longevity" issue using said feature before I continue troubleshooting and chasing my own tail on this? Of course I will eventually test this theory anyhow, but figured I would throw it out there.
Also, Open to any suggestions.
Just some things I have already done along with the above mentioned:
- Utilized the App "Greenify" & donation full version to greenify many apps including "Google Play Services".
- Set up Profiles which I toggle via "PhoneWeaver" to turn off data when on Wi-Fi which consists of 90% of my day as I'm Wi-Fi connected both at home and work.
- Of course always turn off that option within Wi-Fi settings to untick "Always Scan".
- Went into "Google" app settings and turned off about everything I can find in there and it's now rather complex settings.
- Turned off most syncing of my 2 "Google" accounts to only one having anything other than Email Sync active such as the Calendar, Contacts, and Apps Sync. - Again, my 1 Google Account I only have set to sync Email and nothing else.
Sure I forgot some things I've tried but again, I am open to any/all suggestions. I admit, I bought my T-Mobile via Swappa. All seemed well as per their checklist of the obvious things to check regarding the phone's operation. Kind of stuck here now and wondering if my device is simply defective and/or the battery.
Also of note: Android System is always by far the largest contributor to my battery drain and exceeds even Screen-On time by around 10%. But then again, don't really know if that means anything or not since even before switching carriers and the transition from "JellyBean" to "KitKat" on my previous S4, Android System became a forever battery hog for me.
Just never had a top end device such as this in past years barely get me through a complete day: Work & Home time. I don't consider myself a heavy user. Barely even "Moderate" many days as I mainly text during my lunch break, otherwise phone is pretty much idle. And say 2 phone calls of aprox 20 min.s each during commute time. Yea, something just isn't right. :crying:
I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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ShrekOpher said:
I have noticed 3 things that were hurting battery bad.
1.) Use the Google play services with the 030 extension. I get way better battery life on it 5% to 10% increase in battery life. Link below:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ices-7-0-99-1809214-030-android-apk-download/
2.) If you are not using maps or other location services turn your location off. Literally a 20%+ increase in battery from this alone.
3.) Toggle your NFC. Something in Android 4.4.4 sometimes causes your NFC to wake lock. If you turn it on then turn it off one time it normally fixes is.
I attached my battery stats below.
It with about 2 hours of screen on time.
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Thanks for the reply and suggestions! I just checked and I am currently running Google Play Services V 7.0.97 (1791429-030).
A couple things I have done meanwhile since my OP which have had "some" noticeable positive effects on my battery duration, yet still no where near what you have posted are:
Within "Google Settings" app:
- Account History ( I have "turned off or rather paused" ALL the Activity/Info/History settings here - All 5)
Regarding my 2nd, basically "Junk mail" Gmail Account:
- Now have ALL "Sync" turned off within, including the syncing of email, which I now simply check manually to update.
Greenify:
- Revisited, and added a bunch more apps and pretty much "Greenified" ALL Samsung related entries/services/ect...
So far I have increased to achieving up to about 3 1/2 hrs Screen time (Gained 1 hr) & a few more hours of real time battery longevity as I can now achieve close to 20hrs before needing charge.
Still feel I have some troubleshooting to go. Oh, I actually have the NFC Service "Greenified" to. So far haven't really noticed a problem with "Deep Sleep" either according to CPU SPY pro.
Yep, Have always had the Location Service to OFF, not even using the so called "Battery saving" selection with it. Such a pity to have to cripple such things but it's a trade off I guess in achieving a full day's battery vs.s using the features with this phone for some reason more-so than past devices it seems. At least in my case. :silly:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
Day 2
Day 3
Same Setup here.
My Exynos last 3 Days with 7Hrs Screen On, or 2 Days with 8-9Hrs Screen On.
Right ATM iam on :
76% Battery left.
Usage Time : 20Hrs and 46 Min.
Screen On : 2Hrs and 3 Min.
Mixed Usage between Wifi and 4G.
But just using Samsung Browser, Youtube and Whatsapp. No Games or whatever.
Maybe i can reach this Time 8 Hrs Screen On with 4 Days of usage. But i think, maximum is 3 Days with 7Hrs.
I dont fight for battery. Iam just a light user. And i did debloat and use routines (Android 9). No enerysaver. 1080P
Exynos here.
Exynos here too
4G/4G+ always active outdoors, WiFi at home
Screen brightness on manual, above 60% most of the time
1440p active, I refuse to downgrade the display to 1080p
Bluetooth on moderately, headphones & computer
Chrome as my browser
Social apps include Twitter & WhatsApp
"Disabled" a couple services through adb (pm uninstall) method ~ not including Bixby although I never use it.. ever
Always on display is set to "Tap To Show"
Consistently leave my house with 100% battery early hours 6-8am & return home with 30% (or higher) without fail
My charging method varies, I either fast charge it in the evening & got to bed with it on 100% and wake up with it on 97%+ or I wirelessly charge overnight and wake with it on 100% using the official Samsung convertible charger
Overall, I couldn't be happier with its battery life.
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I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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May I ask do you doing any restoration, or data transfer from Smart Switch, Samsung Cloud or Google backup?
Or you just set it as a fresh new device?
I NEVER fast charge because I really have no need with this battery performance. @maple_mak I never wiped the device since i bought it, I made a dirty flash via ota for upgrading to Pie/OneUi, then installed as zip all the betas until I upgraded to stable and had 3 security patches from that moment. At the time I tried to fresh install as many things as possible but of course my samsung account and google account synced many data. If you have problems with battery I suggest you to choose wisely the apps you use and monitor their battery usage carefully. You can use gsam for that. The idea is that you need the device to do as less things as possible both in background and foreground: any automated activity drains battery, use features only if you strictly need them.
if you really can't understand what your battery problem is, I suggest a fresh install of the OS and most important after that a good set up of the system without installing "garbage". With garbage I also mean things that are useful to you but drain battery and execute tasks continously
No idea how you manage that. I've already dropped 12% in 2 hours ? this is my first Samsung since the S7 Edge, I probably won't get another after this. Not a fan of OneUI and the countless preinstalled junk apps that I never use lol
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No idea how you manage that. I've already dropped 12% in 2 hours ? this is my first Samsung since the S7 Edge, I probably won't get another after this. Not a fan of OneUI and the countless preinstalled junk apps that I never use lol
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You can essentially disable most pre-installed apps through adb
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You can essentially disable most pre-installed apps through adb
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Oh I know. Just can't be bothered having to do it lol rather they weren't there to begin with. I mainly bought it for the stylus, but I rarely use it. I think a smaller device in the future will suit better
Sprov said:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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thanks for sharing this. U helped me made my decision on getting my Note 9 despite its been quite some time it has been launched.
gxthelord said:
thanks for sharing this. U helped me made my decision on getting my Note 9 despite its been quite some time it has been launched.
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You're welcome! I hope you got a good deal - I'm under contract with samsung so I will switch for few bucks to the note 10 as it gets on the market, tough the idea of staying on this note 9 for a year more doesn't hurt me at all. Enjoy your new machine
Since last 2 Pie Updates..batterylife getting closer and closer to Oreo. A bit more optimazion and we are back on Oreo runtime.
Sprov said:
I found myself customizing my new device as always from day one. I'm still running rootless with great satisfaction: one ui in superb in managing screen dimensions, good lock 2019 gives me the perk to optimize my multitasking, thanks to the community i run great gestures interface. I use no compromise: always on high performance mode, WQHD+, 4G+ always on, sync with 2 push emails 90% of the time it's on, lot of Bluetooth devices connected specially when I'm home (headphones, computer, amazon echo, bluetooth earbuds). I made a very light debloat with adhell that counts about 20 apps disabled (including all bixby services, which don't drain much battery tough).
I have about 180GB occupied out of 512, roughly 2.5/3 gb of ram always available and no heavy app optimization services enabled (just adaptive battery as far as I can tell). I normally DON'T close apps from multitasking. I make heavy usage of multiwindow specially from messaging apps trough notification bubbles. Always on display only when I'm home. You can see below my usage which may vary from day to day but consistently delivers incredible performances and very exciting battery results.
The device is an SM-N960F 8/512, so it's the exynos one.
In following posts I'm posting other days of battery I have record of in as much detail as I could get at the time.
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Hi, Would you mind sharing the 20 or so apps that you disabled? I'm not getting anywhere near your battery usage, and it would be great to improve it.
Thanks
silverwings2008 said:
Hi, Would you mind sharing the 20 or so apps that you disabled? I'm not getting anywhere near your battery usage, and it would be great to improve it.
Thanks
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Yes! It's not all the story since the apps consumption is negligible if you don't really use them, for instance be careful to disable functions that use sensor like the ones in advanced features, try to use as less bluetooth perks with the s-pen, careful with location and try to stay below 80% brightness. Charge without fast charging and stay as much as you can between 15%-85% battery.
Here the apps/services i disabled:
"Bixby" voice wake-up
Apps edge
Bixby home
Bixby Service
Bixby Vision
Bixby Voice
Bixby Voice stub
BixbyVision Framework
Bookmark Provider
Calendar (I use the Google one)
Clipboard edge
CoolEUKor (it's a font... whatever)
Customization Service (be careful this can mess up some elements of the ui like multitasking. I use good lock apps and have no problems. You can always disable Customization Service from your samsung account manager even if you leave the app active on your device: https://www.samsung.com/us/account/customization-service/ )
Edge Screen
Facebook
Facebook App Installer
Facebook App Manager
Facebook Services
Finance (yahoo)
Galaxy essential widget
Gear VR Service
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google VR Services
Instagram
Kids Home Installer
Linkedin
OneDrive
People Edge
PowerPoint
Samsung Galaxy Friends
Samsung Internet Panel
Secure Wi-Fi
Sports (yahoo)
SystemUIBixby2
Tasks Edge
Wearable Manager Installer
Youtube (I use another app)
upday
of course you can enable the ones you want if you use them
I also changed my dns to 1.1.1.1, don't know the impact of it in terms of battery
Black theme to everything you are comfortable with
Setting to auto the always on display or using the feature that doesn't allow the phone to turn on in pocket use the ambient light sensor and proximity sensor - this drains some battery
Try to block as many notifications from apps as you can
My suggestions could never end XD try navigate every menu and value every option. Shortcuts don't really matter but the things related to sensors or automation consume battery. Every little thing you can adjust to your real need make the difference
Thanks for the tips @Sprov
Did you uninstall them via adb or just put them to sleep?
DNS, you just using an app for that?
Thanks
I use adhell both for disable apps and change my dns. It's a bit tricky to setup fhe first time, there's an official guide, with some passages peculiar for the note 9. You can search for the thread here on xda. You need also to get a knox license from samsung, all of this requires about 30 minutes the first time. Main use of adhell is ad blocking at system level but it has a lot of features. If you're only interested in dns and disabling apps you can do it with adb with the latter, for the DNS there's an option in the Connection settings on the phone: in More Connection Settings tap on Private DNS and type 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com
Adhell doesn't work anymore because samsung changed criteria to get KNOX license. From now on I will use package disabler pro OR ADB to disable system apps and services, for ADS blocking I changed the DNS from the "more connection settings", you can use the one from ADguard or get a customizable one from nextdns.com
Man, I can't believe you're getting such awesome battery life from the SM-N960F. I have the same device (512GB variant) and I barely get 3hours SOT. I think I could get more SOT if I really pushed for it but I don't use my phone as often as some. I just don't see why it should be down to less than 15% when I go to bed (11-12pm) after taking it off charge in the morning at around 8am!
I did a google drive app restore when I set up the device so maybe this is causing the battery drain? or is there a chance I have a faulty device? I am still within my 30 day return period with the seller so should I return it?
Forgot to attach screenshot.
Heavy battery drainage for last few months. Even more battery drain since One UI 2.0 update in my unlocked Note 9 Snapdragon phone.
Things did:
1. Formatted the entire device.
2. Cleaned cache.
3. Greenified all unnecessary apps.
4. Location access set to only when using the app.
5. Dark mode enabled to all available apps in the device.
6. Fast charging only with original cable.
7. All necessary settings changed.
8. Dark wallpapers and Lock Screen.
Things it always runs on:
1. Bluetooth with Gear S3 and Buds.
2. Location permission turned on when using the app only.
3. Edge Screen set to ON.
4. Edge Lighting set to ON.
5. Screen AOD is set to Tap to Preview.
Im having the same problem too and it made me wonder that samsung might be doing this intentionally forcing you to upgrade to note 10. maybe note 10 sales not doing quite well as expected?
maybe rooting and using a custom firmware might solve this. but which one is more like stock with extra features and easy on the battery?
i am having battery drain on exynos version SM-N960F on stock android pie. it started almost 2 months back. may be some apps are doing this.
maybe you guys need a new battery? mine is fine even on android 10
The sm-n960f has reported terrible battery life across the board since day 1. Few people with it have been happy here on the forums.
I have the snapdragon on 10 and as if right now my phone's been on for 3 days without charge, 4 hours SOT with roughly 6 hours of LTE Pandora streaming.
You can try checking your Google account sync in settings>accounts and backups>accounts>{your Google account}>sync account
Are any of the items showing a circle made of 2 arrows on the right side of the screen? This means you have a sync error. These are because Android/Samsung's battery savers have placed that corresponding app in sleep mode.
So if you have a calendar sync error, you'll need to go to settings and search for "optimize battery usage", and search for both the calendar app and the calendar storage app. (Usually calendar, contacts, ECT have 2 apps) and de-optimize them. This should help immensely.
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Heavy battery drainage for last few months. Even more battery drain since One UI 2.0 update in my unlocked Note 9 Snapdragon phone.
Things did:
1. Formatted the entire device.
2. Cleaned cache.
3. Greenified all unnecessary apps.
4. Location access set to only when using the app.
5. Dark mode enabled to all available apps in the device.
6. Fast charging only with original cable.
7. All necessary settings changed.
8. Dark wallpapers and Lock Screen.
Things it always runs on:
1. Bluetooth with Gear S3 and Buds.
2. Location permission turned on when using the app only.
3. Edge Screen set to ON.
4. Edge Lighting set to ON.
5. Screen AOD is set to Tap to Preview.
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Zivaj said:
Im having the same problem too and it made me wonder that samsung might be doing this intentionally forcing you to upgrade to note 10. maybe note 10 sales not doing quite well as expected?
maybe rooting and using a custom firmware might solve this. but which one is more like stock with extra features and easy on the battery?
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Munawar Mehmood said:
i am having battery drain on exynos version SM-N960F on stock android pie. it started almost 2 months back. may be some apps are doing this.
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got 960u1 and i get 2-3 days of battery
I just tried whatever you suggested and found that my calendar, contacts, and drive were set to 'optimization' and I just removed them from it. Hopefully, I get to see some improvement now. I will keep you posted. Any other suggestions would be really helpful and welcome.
Thanks
Frick_trump said:
The sm-n960f has reported terrible battery life across the board since day 1. Few people with it have been happy here on the forums.
I have the snapdragon on 10 and as if right now my phone's been on for 3 days without charge, 4 hours SOT with roughly 6 hours of LTE Pandora streaming.
You can try checking your Google account sync in settings>accounts and backups>accounts>{your Google account}>sync account
Are any of the items showing a circle made of 2 arrows on the right side of the screen? This means you have a sync error. These are because Android/Samsung's battery savers have placed that corresponding app in sleep mode.
So if you have a calendar sync error, you'll need to go to settings and search for "optimize battery usage", and search for both the calendar app and the calendar storage app. (Usually calendar, contacts, ECT have 2 apps) and de-optimize them. This should help immensely.
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akshay.livespark said:
Heavy battery drainage for last few months. Even more battery drain since One UI 2.0 update in my unlocked Note 9 Snapdragon phone.
Things did:
1. Formatted the entire device.
2. Cleaned cache.
3. Greenified all unnecessary apps.
4. Location access set to only when using the app.
5. Dark mode enabled to all available apps in the device.
6. Fast charging only with original cable.
7. All necessary settings changed.
8. Dark wallpapers and Lock Screen.
Things it always runs on:
1. Bluetooth with Gear S3 and Buds.
2. Location permission turned on when using the app only.
3. Edge Screen set to ON.
4. Edge Lighting set to ON.
5. Screen AOD is set to Tap to Preview.
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Zivaj said:
Im having the same problem too and it made me wonder that samsung might be doing this intentionally forcing you to upgrade to note 10. maybe note 10 sales not doing quite well as expected?
maybe rooting and using a custom firmware might solve this. but which one is more like stock with extra features and easy on the battery?
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Munawar Mehmood said:
i am having battery drain on exynos version SM-N960F on stock android pie. it started almost 2 months back. may be some apps are doing this.
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akshay.livespark said:
I just tried whatever you suggested and found that my calendar, contacts, and drive were set to 'optimization' and I just removed them from it. Hopefully, I get to see some improvement now. I will keep you posted. Any other suggestions would be really helpful and welcome.
Thanks
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Just de-optimizing them isn't quote the solution. It only will make a difference if they are failing to sync under account settings>(your Gmail account). You'll know this because alongside calendar, contacts, ECT, there will be a gray circle. And what ends up happening is Google keeps trying to sync, keeping the phone activate and draining battery.
This happened to me sometimes after is updates, but as of Android 10, it hasn't been a problem and battery life has been good.
Maybe your right. I've not seen any improvement in battery as of now. Still draining heavily
Frick_trump said:
Just de-optimizing them isn't quote the solution. It only will make a difference if they are failing to sync under account settings>(your Gmail account). You'll know this because alongside calendar, contacts, ECT, there will be a gray circle. And what ends up happening is Google keeps trying to sync, keeping the phone activate and draining battery.
This happened to me sometimes after is updates, but as of Android 10, it hasn't been a problem and battery life has been good.
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akshay.livespark said:
Maybe your right. I've not seen any improvement in battery as of now. Still draining heavily
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N960f have been known to drain heavy. What kind of battery life vs sot are you getting
akshay.livespark said:
Maybe your right. I've not seen any improvement in battery as of now. Still draining heavily
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You should look under Settings > Device Care > Battery > Battery Usage... See which apps top the list of heavy drains. On mine, I noticed the recent Google Play Services app was draining the battery the most.
kenylove said:
You should look under Settings > Device Care > Battery > Battery Usage... See which apps top the list of heavy drains. On mine, I noticed the recent Google Play Services app was draining the battery the most.
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This is also a common problem. There are 2 separate solutions. I would try them in this order
1. Clear app data /cashed for play services
2. Install Google play services beta from the play store
See if that doesn't improve battery life.
Hi !
I bought the pixel 5 for 10 months now. I love it but I wanted to know if other owners of this pixel 5 had the same concerns.
Whatever I do, basic uses like Twitter, Gmail, chrome... Behind at the top next to the photo module, The phone is always hot. I wonder if this is normal, and if you also have your pixel 5 heating up there.
Also I don't know if it's due to the fact that it often heats up, but I've always heard wonders about the battery of the pixel 5, But I must say that this is not my case, I had changed from my pixel 4 which I loved because the battery was really bad, but there on this pixel 5 the battery is better but not by much. I can only get 3-5 hours of screen time on a 100% charge. While I had seen a lot of 6-7 hours. So how much screen time can you do with your Pixel 5 on a 100% charge?
Thank you.
While I don’t own the phone i must say that newer phones heat up quicker in general. Most YouTube reviewers are just bias or dishonest, it’s all about your own experience with the phone. If your phone heats up it could probably be because your tackling the processor to much or overloading the available little ram the phone has, which causes the phone to heat up, because the phone is trying to keep up with your tasks. Try limiting processes, often restart the phone, and keep it in a cool environment (which is a difficult thing to do specifically with the hot weather these days), yeah that. I don’t know about the screen on time, but you shouldn’t believe reviewers to much.
I can easily go all day on a full charge with some pretty moderate use, including constant music streaming. I don't have any heat issues.
8GB RAM is not "little"; if you're running out of memory on a Pixel 5, you probably need to reevaluate your application load. The only app I have constantly running is NordVPN.
Your right, I thought that the Pixel 5 had 4GB Ram, because I forgot that it had 8GB
To further improve battery, you can restrict apps so they don't drain battery while the screen is off. Settings > Battery > Battery usage, select the apps you want to restrict while in the background, then select Restricted.
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my comment is deleted because I was just parroting the comment above. The post above is the proper way