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[Q] Quick question about CDA

Hi
I've bought a new D5803 from China and upgraded it (using Sony Companion) to Android 6.0.1 (23.5.A.0.575).
I just noticed the Customization Version that came with the phone is 1288-3732_R3D (Saudi Arabia I think?)
I live in the United Kingdom and was wondering if it's worth flashing 1288-4954_R10D (Generic UK).
What difference does it make if I stay with the Saudi CDA? any software restrictions?, or speed of update releases?
I've used the tool Flashtool/XperiFirm to build 1288-4954_R10D but after reading all the stories of people breaking their phones, I'm a bit hesitant to flash it.
I come from the Samsung i9505 section of XDA so things are a bit different here.
Thanks

dave_p_b said:
I live in the United Kingdom and was wondering if it's worth flashing 1288-4954_R10D (Generic UK).
What difference does it make if I stay with the Saudi CDA? any software restrictions?, or speed of update releases?
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You are wise to hesitate to start flashing, if you read further down this Q&A thread it's littered with cries for help from people who have either bricked their phones or lost the DRM keys, disabling some of the higher functions of the phone. Sony's insistence on using an encrypted partition with unique identifier keys on it, puts it a long way from the likes of Samsung & LG, where you can root and flash a rom on your new phone in about 5 minutes. This has caught a lot of people out who come to Sony from those phones.
I don't think using a Saudi build will have any impact. I once flashed a eastern European build on my phone, only to discover that the size of picture attachments to text messages, was to big for the UK providers.
But as long as everything works and you have no hankerings for root on your phone, then 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
There is a great guide here, if you do want to go down the customisation road. Take your time to read the entire page, then possibly read it again, before you do anything.

Didgesteve said:
There is a great guide here, if you do want to go down the customisation road. Take your time to read the entire page, then possibly read it again, before you do anything.
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Sound advice Didgesteve. Thanks for the reply.
The phone is behaving perfectly at the moment (apart from a temperamental Contacts app).
I think I will spend time learning everything I can about this phone before I attempt to flash anything.
There are a few things I miss about root but the risk of bricking the phone through ignorance isn't worth it.
Thanks again for the pointers.

Does replacing a network ROM with stock Android invalidate warranty?

This is my first Huawei-branded phone (I've owned many other phones labelled as different brands but made by Huawei). I have the EVA-L09C02B133, which appears to be a non-UK Vodafone version (bought in the UK from Vodafone).
I can't find any information about this model and ROMs in English. Any suggestions?
I've come from a HTC M8 - a phone I loved, but it stopped turning on (even after flashing etc.). I'd rate the HTC 9/10 and this, so far, 3/10 due to the horrible EMUI.
Also, I'm not allowed to post on the ROM area due to not having enough posts...

tonemapped said:
This is my first Huawei-branded phone (I've owned many other phones labelled as different brands but made by Huawei). I have the EVA-L09C02B133, which appears to be a non-UK Vodafone version (bought in the UK from Vodafone).
I can't find any information about this model and ROMs in English. Any suggestions?
I've come from a HTC M8 - a phone I loved, but it stopped turning on (even after flashing etc.). I'd rate the HTC 9/10 and this, so far, 3/10 due to the horrible EMUI.
Also, I'm not allowed to post on the ROM area due to not having enough posts...
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The version you have is the actual UK Vodafone version as that is stated by C02 in the build number. And yes you can get a custom rom onto it like cm13 which is what mine currently runs off.
I'd suggest that you actually read the other forums before posting as all of the other ones actually fully explain what you have just asked about

aceclift said:
The version you have is the actual UK Vodafone version as that is stated by C02 in the build number. And yes you can get a custom rom onto it like cm13 which is what mine currently runs off.
I'd suggest that you actually read the other forums before posting as all of the other ones actually fully explain what you have just asked about
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Im in same situation, can i change the cust and rom to euro version, even with sim locked to Vodafone? Can i rola back after that to full stock?
Enviado do meu EVA-L09 através de Tapatalk

Nu9 said:
Im in same situation, can i change the cust and rom to euro version, even with sim locked to Vodafone? Can i rola back after that to full stock?
Enviado do meu EVA-L09 através de Tapatalk
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the Euro version is the full stock - there is one difference between them and that is all. this confusions seriously needs to stop.
If you are on euro version you are getting updates directly from Huawei instead of waiting for vodafone to roll out one late.
YES you can change your cust to the Euro version and still be sim locked

aceclift said:
the Euro version is the full stock - there is one difference between them and that is all. this confusions seriously needs to stop.
If you are on euro version you are getting updates directly from Huawei instead of waiting for vodafone to roll out one late.
YES you can change your cust to the Euro version and still be sim locked
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Thanks. I have no issue with being sim-locked, I just really hate EMUI and have considered returning the phone due to it.

tonemapped said:
Thanks. I have no issue with being sim-locked, I just really hate EMUI and have considered returning the phone due to it.
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There are other launchers that you can use, like the Google Now Launcher or Nova or Apex
Returning the phone because of the launcher seems a tad meh to me.

bobjbain said:
There are other launchers that you can use, like the Google Now Launcher or Nova or Apex
Returning the phone because of the launcher seems a tad meh to me.
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It's not just the launcher - it's the general styling Huawei applies. I've watched a few videos of stock Android and noticed it looks nothing like Huawei's abomination.

tonemapped said:
It's not just the launcher - it's the general styling Huawei applies. I've watched a few videos of stock Android and noticed it looks nothing like Huawei's abomination.
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Abomination? Really? There is an app called themes that lets you download other themes that people have created, maybe you might find something in there that you like?
Seriously though I have just replaced a Samsung S6 Edge (terrible battery life) with this phone and, out of the box, the Emui and Samsung interfaces have very similar styling.
That's the thing with Android, if you don't like something you can change it, there's always an app for that!!

Sprint LG V40 ThinQ

Been waiting on the pie update for a while now, checked for an update today and got excited. Turns out its just a security patch. Sprint why you do this? Why come no pie for me?

raymondharig said:
Been waiting on the pie update for a while now, checked for an update today and got excited. Turns out its just a security patch. Sprint why you do this? Why come no pie for me?
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Same dude !!!! Same :/

I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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How did you achieve it

lavin40 said:
How did you achieve it
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Follow my post under Questions and Answers or go to the V40 lounge in this sub forum of Guides and i have a link there

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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Does it seem like everything is functioning how it's supposed to with US unlocked pie after unlocking the bootloader and everything?

grandomegabosses said:
Does it seem like everything is functioning how it's supposed to with US unlocked pie after unlocking the bootloader and everything?
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Yes everything is 100% that i use at least even PRL update and Profile Update are still under system update in the settings menu

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
I'm on Sprint and on US unlocked pie because i got inpatient
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Hey man, I saw the post about doing this but my question is, will I be able to use a sim card from a different carrier or it will just install the latest software? I have the v40 from sprint and can't find a way to unlock it.

Michaeljror said:
Hey man, I saw the post about doing this but my question is, will I be able to use a sim card from a different carrier or it will just install the latest software? I have the v40 from sprint and can't find a way to unlock it.
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No this will not carrier unlock the V40 you have to talk to Sprint about that, but if you sim unlock on stock Sprint Oreo, you may lose it when crossflashing to US unlocked Pie

Stupid sprint is the only company who hasn't released it. Now even some apps say it's compatibility with my phone because developers have put minimum requirements to be able to download on the play store for my phone

jesemalave1 said:
Stupid sprint is the only company who hasn't released it. Now even some apps say it's compatibility with my phone because developers have put minimum requirements to be able to download on the play store for my phone
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Yes indeed they are idiots.

Android4Lif said:
Yes indeed they are idiots.
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I wouldn't go so far as to call them idiots, just SLOW when it comes to updates. I want to switch service providers but sprint and t-mobile are eventually merging, and they will most likely be the first to roll out the 5g network in my area. the fact that i still have oreo isn't THAT big of a deal, because i don't use any apps that are incompatible *yet. I just wish sprint would get the lead out and release the pie update, almost everyone else has.

PIE on the V40 is actually worse than Oreo. Only a couple of the new PIE features are in the ROM, all the major stuff was skipped.
PIE takes away the ability to change to the low power location mode so Google can ping GPS all day for location logging and drain your battery faster. It also limits the wifi scanning frequency for the scanner aps so they are now useless and at work I have to use another phone for setups.
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In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)

Jwalker1897 said:
In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)
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Same question here!
If I understand it correctly, Qualcomm phones have all existing frequencies built in their chips, some obviously hidden/blocked to make it work only on specific network. So why wouldn't the v40 (unlocked) work on T-Mobile if I'm not bothered with 5G at this moment?

nyttliv7 said:
Same question here!
If I understand it correctly, Qualcomm phones have all existing frequencies built in their chips, some obviously hidden/blocked to make it work only on specific network. So why wouldn't the v40 (unlocked) work on T-Mobile if I'm not bothered with 5G at this moment?
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Jwalker1897 said:
In case anyone is still watching this thread, I am new to XDA forums. Have an LG V40 Thinq from Sprint, they recommend that I upgrade to a new device, I can but really love my V40. Can the Sprint version be ported to the T-Mobile network? They tell me that It cant. signed "FREE ---my V40, to hell with BRITNEY!!!" Kidding btw, case anybody takes offence.... ;-)
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If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers

AsItLies said:
If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers
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Do I need to install the LGUP flash tool first, I am a bit naïve with this. Thank you so much much for all the info btw, a little searching of what you've shared and I've already learned alot!

Jwalker1897 said:
Do I need to install the LGUP flash tool first, I am a bit naïve with this. Thank you so much much for all the info btw, a little searching of what you've shared and I've already learned alot!
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Yes, for LG devices, you need the lgup software tool to upgrade or crossflash a kdz (LG's proprietary firmware files).
This is the way we learn. It does pay to read many of the posts in a 'guide' to know what probs others have had, if there are any mistakes in the guide, etc.
cheers

AsItLies said:
If t-mobile is telling you that, it's not true. The sprint device, at&t, verizon are all basically the same, but they have slightly different firmware.
I'd suggest to flash the US Open Pie kdz (there isn't a Q version of it), or, if you're feeling adventurous and want Q, then flash the Korean Open kdz and use the OP partition from US Open Pie to basically get Us Open Q.
The v40 is a great device, very capable. Unfortunately, LG devices have a proprietary IMS stack, which means Lineage or any aosp Rom cannot implement VOWIFI or VOLTE, which means having to stick with the last available version (and security patch) that was put out by the oem.
Oh , and btw, if you go the korean open / OP from US Open, band 71 DOES work! Yes, shocking, but the korean open does support it, even though there is no band 71 in korea!
cheers
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I have the US Open on my Sprint v40. Just wondering if it's nessesery to change to T-Mobile APN?

nyttliv7 said:
I have the US Open on my Sprint v40. Just wondering if it's nessesery to change to T-Mobile APN?
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Yes. Whichever carrier you want to use, of course use their apn. I use Mint Mobile and they have specific apn to use. Some features don't work if you don't use their apn.
cheers

Question How to change from CN rom to NA/Euro/global?

I traded my Rog phone 5 for a brand new in the box oneplus 10 pro. I received the version that is 12 gigs of ram with 256 gigs of storage. It's running the CN software though and I would like to change it to whatever version is the best for Canada.
Can I do this without a computer handy or is it impossible? I can follow directions well enough so if there's an accurate step by step walk through I will be able to manage it. I guess I just need to know which version of the OS and if someone can find me an to date walk through.
Absolutely love this phone so far,
Thanks so much for the help

1BDB1 said:
I traded my Rog phone 5 for a brand new in the box oneplus 10 pro. I received the version that is 12 gigs of ram with 256 gigs of storage. It's running the CN software though and I would like to change it to whatever version is the best for Canada.
Can I do this without a computer handy or is it impossible? I can follow directions well enough so if there's an accurate step by step walk through I will be able to manage it. I guess I just need to know which version of the OS and if someone can find me an to date walk through.
Absolutely love this phone so far,
Thanks so much for the help
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Stay on ColorOS as it's same as OxygenOS !!

None of the theme stuff works, nor does find my mobile etc

1BDB1 said:
I traded my Rog phone 5 for a brand new in the box oneplus 10 pro. I received the version that is 12 gigs of ram with 256 gigs of storage. It's running the CN software though and I would like to change it to whatever version is the best for Canada.
Can I do this without a computer handy or is it impossible? I can follow directions well enough so if there's an accurate step by step walk through I will be able to manage it. I guess I just need to know which version of the OS and if someone can find me an to date walk through.
Absolutely love this phone so far,
Thanks so much for the help
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You will probably want either NE1113 or NE2215. Both of which are pretty easily interchangeable. I'm not sure about the 12gb/256gb version if there are different ROMs but switching regions away from and back to china software I've seen done couple dozen or so times now on this forum.
You're basically going to want to use the full downgrade zip of the region you want to switch to and just flash it normally with a local update. I think you need to be bootloader unlocked, not sure though. As far as I know, that alone is enough to switch regions on this device. As to whether it actually enables different bands for networks or anything though, has really yet to be proven.

Prant said:
You will probably want either NE1113 or NE2215. Both of which are pretty easily interchangeable. I'm not sure about the 12gb/256gb version if there are different ROMs but switching regions away from and back to china software I've seen done couope dozen or so times now on this forum.
You're basically going to want to use the, full downgrade zip of the region you want to switch to and just flash it normally with a local update. I think you need to be bootloader unlocked, not sure though. As far as I know, that alone is enough to switch regions on this device. As to whether it actually enables different bands for networks or anything though, has really yet to be proven.
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I seem to have good coverage in Vancouver Canada and I'm not all that worried about that aspect of it
It's more the fact that quick functions don't work properly, find my mobile, the cloud storage, theme store and a million other apps won't work because I cannot even login to them. The phone keeps asking if I'm roaming and want to buy data in Canada even though I am using a Canadian sim and plan.
My question to you is this, which is the rom I am looking for? Which region is it for? North America?
I appreciate the time you spent with helping me with this

Oh and how can I get rid of breeno or whatever the voice assistant app is? Bloatware app or hidden settings app?

NE2215 is "Global" (North America)
NE2213 is EU.
Flashing away from the China firmware then doing a full wipe should get rid of most bloatware.

Prant said:
NE2215 is "Global" (North America)
NE2213 is EU.
Flaahing away from the China firmware then doing a full wipe should get rid of most bloatware.
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Thank you so much for the help

Prant said:
NE2215 is "Global" (North America)
NE2213 is EU.
Flashing away from the China firmware then doing a full wipe should get rid of most bloatware.
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I've never rooted or unlocked anything in my life, am I in over my head trying this? Should I pay someone to do it for me? I have done many frp bypasses and things just by following walk throughs.
One more question, I have a MacBook, I cannot do this with it can I? I need to be using a pc?

Prant said:
NE2215 is "Global" (North America)
NE2213 is EU.
Flashing away from the China firmware then doing a full wipe should get rid of most bloatware.
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Can you point me in the right direction for a step by step guide with the NE2215?

1BDB1 said:
Can you point me in the right direction for a step by step guide with the NE2215?
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Here you go buddy.
OxygenOS 13 Open Beta for the OnePlus 10 Pro
Release OxygenOS 13 Open Beta based on Android 13 for the OnePlus 10 Pro. Source: https://community.oneplus.com/thread?id=1128573883411595264[/SPOILER] Source: https://community.oneplus.com/thread?id=1133627576771149833 [/SPOILER]...
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If you access the OnePlus community links, you'll find all the relevant files required.
Have rolled back before myself.
Follow the guide and in your case I think the global ROM would suffice.

This is the link to the community page where the instructions are.
OnePlus Community
Introducing our new OnePlus Community experience, with a completely revamped structure, built from the ground-up.
community.oneplus.com

Great to join the club!!

Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!

MethudMann said:
Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!
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Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?

ethical_haquer said:
Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?
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Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT

I'll monitor more closely so let me know if you need any other info

MethudMann said:
Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.

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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.
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Thanks for the research and yes I do have questions if its not too much of an issue:
1.) Carrier bloat is like the usual and can just be deleted anyways correct?
2.) In what scenarios (in case everything was working fine with OTA updates) would the phone have downloaded a version without bloat?
3.) Would updating to the non-bloated version cause any issues since the phone is still carrier locked?
4.) Lastly, for the firmware, would I need to download multiple updates until that point or just straight to the firmware?
If not, I can research the answers as I have been on it on and off for a month with research but other than that, you're a god send.
By the way, if #1 is true, I'll just take the bloatware no doubt just to be as safe as possible.

Thanks again for all the help @ethical_haquer
Been busy researching in the Samsung Note 8 ATT threads and I was able to find the answer to number 4 in that using Full ODIN files is a complete flash and different than just an update which requires the previous updates.
The answer to number 3 from what I have seen no. The only thing is that certain features may NOT work such as VoLTE; pretty much you already answered 3 and I was literally too dumb to see that until I started writing this message. *face palm
Question 2 is pretty much inconsequential so don't worry answering that. Its was just curiosity. But for anyone who does see this possibly, my speculation is that NO, the carrier version would never download the non-carrier version. The non-branded update is for those unlocked phones that receive over-the-air (OTA) updates that were not associated with any carrier, in other words buying a phone directly from samsung's website.
For 1, I am guessing it is "Yes" since I was able to do that in the past with all my other phones. But either way it is not a make it or break it so it doesn't matter.
I have been able to find some full ODIN files for the updates I was looking for, so will be attempting my first flash soon. Will be posting all my findings to the thread I was reading just to potentially help anyone else (though rare since this device is getting real old) who has the same questions I had and I can get them up to speed without having to search everything

Just finished flashing the ATT Note 8 to and the Answer to Number 1 is that NO, you cannot Uninstall the bloatware
Again, will post all these findings to the proper thread in after completed

Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.

ethical_haquer said:
Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.
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You're all good!
I may but I actually have to find one more update I am looking for (Full ODIN FILES). My daily driver note 8 is on N950USQS7DTE5 and it is a T-Mobile Version (though it bein g TMO is inconsequential at the moment. Just thought I might mention it).
That is the update I would like for ATT just so that I know there wont be any differences (or less differences) between my daily driver and this.This is me being picky at this point but isn't the point of life getting what you want? I found one update above that but different bootloader. So for whatever reason may happen, no going back.
What I currently flashed to was N950USQS3BRA8 so it's still on Android 7.1.1 but I did this just to test to the process (my first flashing). Now I am ready.
So I will look for that then flash it and update as usual

Just found, or couldnt find, that ATT has the same update so will just go with what I have. Close as I can get