So I got an s10 today. I used one back in May of last year and was very disappointed with battery life on stock.
So where do I start with custom Roms and kernels if I want better battery life?
Also is any of that possible and still have Samsung pay work without tripping any counters?
pyromaniac1 said:
So I got an s10 today. I used one back in May of last year and was very disappointed with battery life on stock.
So where do I start with custom Roms and kernels if I want better battery life?
Also is any of that possible and still have Samsung pay work without tripping any counters?
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You should not root it dude.... Neither install TWRP or a custom ROM / kernel. In 2020, there is pretty much 0 avantage to root a Samsung phone I think. You'll just break some features like Samsung Pass/Pay, OTA updates and some other cool things.
Sometime, battery life is worse on custom firmwares
Tagdu17 said:
You should not root it dude.... Neither install TWRP or a custom ROM / kernel. In 2020, there is pretty much 0 avantage to root a Samsung phone I think. You'll just break some features like Samsung Pass/Pay, OTA updates and some other cool things.
Sometime, battery life is worse on custom firmwares
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Ads blocking, custom kernel with under/overclocking, custom themes, root app like Afwall, adaway, button mapper, nav bar customization, magisk modules...
There are plenty of reasons to root.
To answer to the op, I think you should give a try to ambassadii ROM with Nemesis kernel. Great battery life and performance overall.
However, I don't think that you can keep using Samsung pay with root.
But friend advice, you should avoid mixing your phone and your bank details, regarding privacy ?
Lowxorx said:
To answer to the op, I think you should give a try to ambassadii ROM with Nemesis kernel. Great battery life and performance overall.
However, I don't think that you can keep using Samsung pay with root.
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I don't use it anyway. I'm just worried that once I flash it back to stock and sell it to the next person, he or she might not be able to use samsung pay.
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Dont root in 2020. It's a bad year according to the almanac.
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I'll be getting my O4X by tomorrow or Saturday. (rooting within 2-3 hours upon getting it)
I read about how to root, seems simple, one click tool kind of rooting system is there.
Is it compulsory to update to 4.1.2 first because it is ICS out of the box?
And do recommend me a starter ROM to try on, I'm thinking the official CM10.1(sounds tempting).
And any thing I should do to preserve battery more? Like switch to a certain suggested kernel.
No need to close 2 core because I'll underclock it to 1.0 or so by default.
And I heard something about factory reseting after root, but that applies to stock rom only right? To fix battery drain issue.
Do help me out. Thanks!
It is compulsory to update mainly because If you root and then update you loose root..
Iodak kernel and optimus prime are good with battery life, try any one of those
KiD3991 said:
I'll be getting my O4X by tomorrow or Saturday. (rooting within 2-3 hours upon getting it)
I read about how to root, seems simple, one click tool kind of rooting system is there.
Is it compulsory to update to 4.1.2 first because it is ICS out of the box?
And do recommend me a starter ROM to try on, I'm thinking the official CM10.1(sounds tempting).
And any thing I should do to preserve battery more? Like switch to a certain suggested kernel.
No need to close 2 core because I'll underclock it to 1.0 or so by default.
And I heard something about factory reseting after root, but that applies to stock rom only right? To fix battery drain issue.
Do help me out. Thanks!
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first update to jelly bean, then root and unlock bootloader, then install rom manager and cwm, then install cm 10.1 latest nightly and the eternity project kerlnel (realy good kernel, fast smooth, good performance and good battery life, and awesome screen colors). then install nova launcher, cause its better than cm´s trebuchet launcher
I lost root on my G4 after the first bootloop repair so I'm looking to confirm that I can root a VZW S8 if I purchase now (Feb 2018).
I can purchase the S7 for $480 or the S8 for $552 directly from VZW spread over 24 payments. I definitely won't be changing carrier (I do a lot of support while on my mobile and need the most reliable connection which is vzw). Is there a way to get the phones for less? I used to go to Amazon and save about $100 but it appears that is no longer offered.
Thanks
no root for VZW S8.
dsteinschneider said:
I lost root on my G4 after the first bootloop repair so I'm looking to confirm that I can root a VZW S8 if I purchase now (Feb 2018).
I can purchase the S7 for $480 or the S8 for $552 directly from VZW spread over 24 payments. I definitely won't be changing carrier (I do a lot of support while on my mobile and need the most reliable connection which is vzw). Is there a way to get the phones for less? I used to go to Amazon and save about $100 but it appears that is no longer offered.
Thanks
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You can root as long as you have a bootloader version 2 or below which I think is the highest they have gone yet. You cannot unlock the bootloader and install TWRP, etc. Look in the S8 and S8 plus ROM forums. Partcyborg has a rooted ROM. Also in the S8 plus Verizon forum there is a rooted ROM by JRKruse.
Smithfolk4 said:
You can root as long as you have a bootloader version 2 or below which I think is the highest they have gone yet. You cannot unlock the bootloader and install TWRP, etc. Look in the S8 and S8 plus ROM forums. Partcyborg has a rooted ROM. Also in the S8 plus Verizon forum there is a rooted ROM by JRKruse.
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Hi Smithfolk, thank you for the great reply. Will check out the S8 ROM forum.
dsteinschneider said:
Hi Smithfolk, thank you for the great reply. Will check out the S8 ROM forum.
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Yes you can root the process is a little weird there is no twrp..due to locked bl and the battery only charges to 80% a eng kernel thing....But dont be discouraged the dev for root on snapdragon is a Verizon customer And the newest release is awesome you will get better batt life at 80% than stock to 100
TheMadScientist said:
Yes you can root the process is a little weird there is no twrp..due to locked bl and the battery only charges to 80% a eng kernel thing....But dont be discouraged the dev for root on snapdragon is a Verizon customer And the newest release is awesome you will get better batt life at 80% than stock to 100
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Why would it be so much better with just a custom ROM? Are there custom kernels as well?
The 80% limitation is because root has to be used with engineering kernel? Just wanted to get it all straight in my head. My S8 arrives next week.
Yes. It's the eng Kern. Lol that's our custom kernel. The pc rom. Is the only one but with many tweaks to make batt better
TheMadScientist said:
Yes. It's the eng Kern. Lol that's our custom kernel. The pc rom. Is the only one but with many tweaks to make batt better
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Ok, so the only 2 kernels for Verizon S8 are the stock and the engineering stock. I was curious if anyone was able to actually tweak the kernel itself.
Seems like it'd be hard to tweak battery life very much without access to the kernel source. Oh, well! Looking forward to getting my S8... they were so cheap at Samsung last week I couldn't resist.
rossbeck said:
Ok, so the only 2 kernels for Verizon S8 are the stock and the engineering stock. I was curious if anyone was able to actually tweak the kernel itself.
Seems like it'd be hard to tweak battery life very much without access to the kernel source. Oh, well! Looking forward to getting my S8... they were so cheap at Samsung last week I couldn't resist.
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at 80% charge i average 5.5 to 7 hours sot normally
yea cant tweak the kernel at all....on the PC rom I am ever so slightly responsible for even better batt life I went through nearly every inch of this rom and boot:good:
The newest version of the rom actually uses to combo firmware boot img and not the reg eng kernel so technically there are 3 kernels Rooted basically we have system access....
But it is deodexed and zipaligned...With a load of other tweaks.....
And with every version released it gets better
The biggest thing rooting is you will get errors....
Ignore most of them through the prosses you will see uploadmode errors and unauthorized software detected but ignore them and dont freak out most of them are part of it:good::good::good:
also you need usb 2.0 ports and remember comsy odin is for PC rom firmware only
And reg odin=reg stock firmware
TheMadScientist said:
also you need usb 2.0 ports and remember comsy odin is for PC rom firmware only
And reg odin=reg stock firmware
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Sounds good... thanks for all the info. Since my phone is factory new, I'll test out pure stock for a while and see if it's good enough.
I rooted my s8 Verizon using PartCyborg rom. Took me 2 tries but it's amazing and worth it
yanbanan980 said:
I rooted my s8 Verizon using PartCyborg rom. Took me 2 tries but it's amazing and worth it
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So it's basically a stock/rooted/debloated rom then? It has that "80%" battery bug, but that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things? Any other bugs or weirdness?
Nope that's basically it. 80% lasts me about 5 hours heavy usage. I personally don't care if it charges to 80 because of the things you can do with root.
Well got this BIG OREO update, im on SEB baltic. Didn't get any big improvements. This is my first phone that i haven't rooted it yet. So the question is after oreo, does it worth to root it and install other rom's that is based on samsung oreo or aosp? What are the benefits? battery life or camera or the performance.. thanks guys.. i know this question has been asked for couple of times, but many changes became after few stock updates.
Now that samsung pay works in my country, I think that it will be more useful to me not to root, I rooted my previous devices to block ads, install viper, and make some ui visual mods, I am using adguard and works really fine for me, as for visual mods, now there are ways to more or less accomplish them without root, what I really miss is viper4A
I've always rooted but this time I'm not going to ... Samsung pay on my S3 frontier is very handy and I don't want to lose that
IMO & at this time, for me personally, no not worth it. I'm rooted, always have been since I've been running Android phones. But nothing on 8.0 Oreo is worth it to me. In fact there are more things I hate about it than on Nougat as well as imcompatibilites. I'm happy to be back on Nougat now.
I've rooted every phone I've had with the exception of the Note 7, S8+ and the Note 8. Just feel that all the great features and being able to use substratum without root far out weigh rooting for the time being.
Back in the early days of Android, most rooted for themes. I don't root for themeing. Custom recovery is essential for me too. Root without custom recovery is not worth it to me which is why I didn't buy a Snapdragon. I root mainly for system mods, apps that require root, & to enable csc features that you wouldn't be able to wiithout root. Flashing mods, roms, custom kernels, & being able to make backups is very important to me. I do run custom roms but they are the most basic ones or just simply debloated. Themes, I just run a theme from the Samung theme store which doesn't even require root. I personally don't care for Samsung Pay, never will use it. Secure folder also, I do miss private mode but I can live without. I can always use Android Pay if I really wanted to but that won't happen.
Been awhile sine I last checked in with my S8... back in the time, only way for root was with the eng build that kept you only at 80% battery life.
Thought I would check in to see if there were any new mods or anything that would be worth while on a stock tmo s8 if anyone could fill me in?
Starting to really feel like I made a mistake getting an S8 lol... My s6 still is prettier.
I've been looking, still a noob. Unless you never updated to v5 bootloader, it seems the only way for true root is to install the newest safestrap hack, then flash a pre-rooted Android 7 rom, 80% battery. No root for pie or oreo exists.
So far, with the v5 bootloader, we can only install safestrap, then flash one of the few roms available, tune using xposed or something similar. There is no one stop, twrp-then-check-out-all-these-cool-new-roms place to go.
I really appreciate what has been done here, because Samsung made it so much harder to mod these phones. However, compared to the good old S5/S6 days, it kinda sux. There's no complete noobs guide, tougher to get started.
Hello
Just a quick question on everyones thoughs as to wether custom roms make a big difference on this phone or not?
This is the first phone I have had where I do not have an immediate desire to unlock my bootloader and start messing around with stuff. I enjoy OneUI's featureset and everything just seems to work as expected.
Do custom roms on this device have a significant improvement over performance and battery life?
Thanks
LineageOS Roms have much better battery in my experience, and is snappier, however the animations aren't as smooth I feel. If you have no problems with performance however, there's no point switching to LOS just for the speed.
JimmyEatFood said:
Hello
Just a quick question on everyones thoughs as to wether custom roms make a big difference on this phone or not?
This is the first phone I have had where I do not have an immediate desire to unlock my bootloader and start messing around with stuff. I enjoy OneUI's featureset and everything just seems to work as expected.
Do custom roms on this device have a significant improvement over performance and battery life?
Thanks
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I typically only like to root and use stock rom. I need root because I hate ads, and like to have full control over my phone. With the S10 if you don't use a custom rom though you'll need to use a button combo to boot into the rom anytime you power off so I chose to go with BeyondRom since it's basically the stock rom but is modified to always boot into the rom.