Jack Audio - USB C dongle, which one I have to buy? - Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers

Hi mates, there are different dongles in the market, some of them are really cheap, others definely not! I've also see schemes, some dongles have internal DAC and amplifer, others just connect some pins of the USB-C to the audio jack. I've lost mine and I've to buy one, which is the right choice?
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Barabba11 said:
Hi mates, there are different dongles in the market, some of them are really cheap, others definely not! I've also see schemes, some dongles have internal DAC and amplifer, others just connect some pins of the USB-C to the audio jack. I've lost mine and I've to buy one, which is the right choice?
Thank you
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I bought and used Baseus L54. It has an internal DAC, sounds great and everything is working (remote buttons, mic) .

Thank you for your kind answer, just for info, do you exclude adapters without dac and directly connected to usb?

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miniUSB Headphones/Headset

I have a bluetooth headset already. I just forget to charge it half the time and was looking for good usb headphones, any suggestions?
http://www.amazon.com/OEM-Motorola-...1967?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1192122193&sr=8-4
Will those work?
Try Clove technology
3.5mm Handsfree Adapter with Mic therefore you can use your own headphones..! £9.40 including VAT
Ofiaich
I found some those in the states. Are they all compatible? Do I need to buy the ones for htc or will any 11pin usb to 3.5 headset adapter with mic work?
Hi!
I got that one from Clove and it works perfectly with my Kaiser!
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i know but I am in the states, thats site is for UK.
I picked up HTC's wired remote and use it with my Shure headphones. And when I manage to break those headphones, the remote will work with the replacements. I like being able to kick-off and control the playback without actually touching the phone...
nice, i like those, thanks for the link
I got this one and it works great for the price.
I bought a cheap generic 11-pin mini-usb to 3.5mm adapter from ebay and they work a treat. I'm only using it with normal headphones, though, i haven't tried ones with a mic.

[Q] Micro USB to digital audio out adapter?

I was if Note is able to output "digital" audio signal via it's micro usb port. So, it can connect to a external DAC for better processing. Has anyone tried this or know where I can buy adapter for this purpose?
psun786 said:
I was if Note is able to output "digital" audio signal via it's micro usb port. So, it can connect to a external DAC for better processing. Has anyone tried this or know where I can buy adapter for this purpose?
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There has been some discussion in using an MHL HDMI adaptor and then an HDMI to digital out, like TOSLINK/OPTICAL. A bit clunky. The HMDI must output digital audio. I would like to see someone try it and report. I've found the sound quality a bit crappy.
Try playing a FLAC file as opposed to MP3. Really not worth bothering with MP3 if you are looking at an external DAC.
So I found this
Expensive but its an HDMI to headphone amp. 24/192k 110dB
Some newer HTav amps have HDMI input, would love to see someone hook up a note to one and report on audio quality!
and this. Bit cheaper, but if anyone has one, rip it open and tell us what the chips are!
The s3 has usb audio support. Check it out over in the S3 forums or google it. only certain usb dacs are Supported hopefully it will be ported to the Note! if you have ICS, root and a usb audio device you could check dmesg output. Can't post links from my phone. I read about the glandos kernel that might be worth looking at. Its some exciting development.
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Usb type c audio jack sound better?

Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
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brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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Are you sure your friend didn't say that usb would use the headunit dac instead? I know that works that way, usb c to usb into my headunit for direct file play using only the headunit dac not headunit dac+ phone dac. No, I can't see any adapters your talking about having built into dac.
I can also tell you that I can't use high res in poweramp through usb or UHQ upscaler in settings with usb audio. I prob won't use it much due to those reasons, or Bluetooth for poor audio quality and no uhq upscaler either. Leaving aux for being the best for audio on this phone.
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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The moment you use the usb-c port to play your music, it bypasses the internal DAC. This is why ALL usb-c earbuds etc have their own DAC. I honestly doubt an adapter-DAC combo less than 10 pounds will outperform the DAC in the Note 8.
There is a major distinction between
1. How the DAC processes and shapes your music.
2. How 'powerful' it is and if it can handle high impedance headphones.
Seems to me that no. 2 is likely but definitely not no.1 with the adapter you linked.
It is well known that LOUDNESS(not volume) often comes across as BETTER quality sound.
Thanks guys I'm no audiophile I just wanted better and louder sound which the usb c headphone adapter seems (placebo maybe) do I've looked around on Amazon with a few of them claiming that they have decent dac built it
Do these dac in the adapters bypass the phone dac or something ?

USB-C to 3.5mm Audio?

Has anyone used some type of USB-C->3.5mm adapter to route audio out with any luck? I'm looking to use my current my wired headphones and my car stereo aux port. I know old lol. My wireless BeatsX suck, they dont get loud at all. The wired Beats I got 6 years ago blows these POS of earbuds out of the water. Looking for any suggestions on an adapter and any special config required in android. Currently running rooted stock. Thanks.
UPDATE - I found a great adapter that works with my car aux port with no problems. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BTVQ8YC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Great quality, good price... $9.99
Currently I am using adapter from Xiaomi MiA2, works perfectly with aux in my car and wired JBL headphones. This adapter looks and feels cheap but works really well. I think every adapter should work, just buy generic one
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I'm using these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YFNFLRF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use Hidizs Sonata 2.
One of the best for quality at reasonable price.
Mr.Nice.ba said:
Currently I am using adapter from Xiaomi MiA2, works perfectly with aux in my car and wired JBL headphones. This adapter looks and feels cheap but works really well. I think every adapter should work, just buy generic one
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Thanks!
Thanks everyone for the reply!!
Just so you know more: every adapter should work indeed.
But these adapters contain DAC (digital to analogic converter), in order to receive sound through USB and sending it through good old analogic 3.5mm. The quality of these DAC can really have a difference in sound quality. Not on standard car environment, sure, but for someone with good earphones it is worthwhile to search for a little quality for these adapters.
Spoonoid said:
Just so you know more: every adapter should work indeed.
But these adapters contain DAC (digital to analogic converter), in order to receive sound through USB and sending it through good old analogic 3.5mm. The quality of these DAC can really have a difference in sound quality. Not on standard car environment, sure, but for someone with good earphones it is worthwhile to search for a little quality for these adapters.
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The OEM adapter does not have a DAC. It doesn't need one because it's correctly wired to work with the USB audio out on the OnePlus devices. So if you use this one, you're actually using the DAC in the phone itself.
I've got the Apple one (the only apple product own!)
According to head-fi (an audiphoile forum) it's one of the best that doesn;t cost a fortune.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/usb-c-to-3-5mm-adapters-dac-lets-find-the-best.908839/
Prog_Drummer said:
I've got the Apple one (the only apple product own!)
According to head-fi (an audiphoile forum) it's one of the best that doesn;t cost a fortune.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/usb-c-to-3-5mm-adapters-dac-lets-find-the-best.908839/
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Actually it sucks (at least for the OnePlus 7T), I got one too and I regret, the sound volume is really bad with the apple adapter because it wasn't made for Android phones at all of course.
I went to a miniso store and got one adapter there and is 5x times better than the Apple one, and cost 3x less. xd
Any splitter for simultaneous 3.5mm & charging which supports fast charging?
I've seen some videos on YouTube, but doesn't seem like supporting fast charging. We've real USB3.1, there should be something out there.
I'll receive an Audio Technica headphone this week. Could someone please tell which adapter will work best for our 7t?
niyonsv said:
I'll receive an Audio Technica headphone this week. Could someone please tell which adapter will work best for our 7t?
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OEM one.
I bought the one for the Pixel straight from Google. You'll pay for the privilege, but it works well
improvius said:
OEM one.
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Do you think the OEM adapter is the best available (at a reasonable price)? I'm thinking if getting it.
andre.vmatos said:
Any splitter for simultaneous 3.5mm & charging which supports fast charging?
I've seen some videos on YouTube, but doesn't seem like supporting fast charging. We've real USB3.1, there should be something out there.
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I tried one (from Ali Express). It is unusable while charging as I started hearing motor sound after one minute of usage. Unplug and plug that back in, again same issue in a minute. None of such adapters support fast charging as far as I know.
Will it make any difference if I go for Samsung's adapter instead of OnePlus's? (other than price
Got the cheapeast £1.99(ish) wire adapters (USB c to 3.5mm) from eBay and they work well
niyonsv said:
Will it make any difference if I go for Samsung's adapter instead of OnePlus's? (other than price
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Reviews of it in Samsung's website are not that favorable.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/usb-c-headphone-jack-adapter-ee-uc10juwegus/
I tried the samsung adapter from my tablet S5e, and it didn't work on the 7T

Question S21U usb type c earphones

So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
oae08 said:
So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
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You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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Is there an amazon link of one that works
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
Maddmatt said:
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
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I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
oae08 said:
Is there an amazon link of one that works
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Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
www.amazon.com
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I got my adapter on Amazon for between $3-$5 and it works fine with my S21U (no problems from four different sets of wired headphones)... I'm thinking that this guy's headphones might have some type of device limitation.
*Edit* - Here's a link to the adapter that I have. Price has gone up (as the price has for everything in the past 4-5 months) and so now it's $10. But it does indeed work on my S21U (but funnily enough, it didn't work on my Pixel 3XL when I had originally purchased it two years back).
Check this video
oae08 said:
I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
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Simply get the Samsung converter. It's output is via a 3.5mm jack though. I avoid using the C port for anything except charging and connecting to the PC to reduce wear. The bottom of the phone is a lousy place to have it for audio... born to die.
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I had forgotten the about the included AKG wired earbuds with the 10+. I don't think they have a builtin DAC, they might. Latter I'll pull them and try to see what output the phone is making to them.
Samsung has always been less than forthcoming with their bloody specs. Cryptic be an accurate description... try finding specs for the SSC codec
See where that takes you before you finally realize the UHQ upscaler isn't available for bluetooth except on the Note 8 I believe it was. It's misleading at the best. You need to follow multiple Samsung links to finally route that out.
blackhawk said:
This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
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Keyvannn said:
Check this video
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Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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Thanks guys, but this might work on the S20/S10 etc because they have 3.5mm audio jack ALSO. but the S21 does not have and by default the option is already disabled on S21. unfortunately i double checked again and it still doesnt work
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
abhi021 said:
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
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Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
78apb said:
Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Thanks.
The only bummer with UAPP and tidal is it doesn't support offline mode. N native tidal with external dac does not not support more than 48khz.
Where as I guess tidal on apple does support mqa from native tidal app
78apb said:
Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
amirage said:
Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
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Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
78apb said:
Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
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I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
amirage said:
I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
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1) ztella has a significant discount promo coupon code, just google it, many of them flying around. If IRR, 30% discount code available. $69 + shipping for MQA version, for example.
2) UAPP is necessary to get the full advantage of MQA and direct output. If you do not plan to use Tidal, you can use Neutron player instead, or Hiby Music app - or any app that support direct output to DAC (with the proper drivers built-in in that app, uapp just have a widest base of drivers and always works perfect, have frequent updates and decent interface).
Otherwise, you will listen to standard Android audio which is processed by the firmware and have nullified almost any advantage in the sound quality you paid for using DAC.

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