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I want performance (GT-i8190)

Dear fellow ROM-lovers
As a looong-time ROM-user, I'm still trying to find thé perfect ROM. I've used a ton of ROM's, some of them are:
STOCK: Project Noble, Virginity, Ronin
KitKat: Omni-ROM, Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android, SlimRom, pretty much anything popular
Lollipop: Omni-ROM, Cyanogenmod​I haven't tried out Marshmellow ROM's since it's rather new.
The STOCK-ROM's are obviously the better choice when I'm talking about battery life. I really don't care about customization anymore since I've gotten to the point where only useful things matter on this old s3 mini of mine.
Nooow, to get to the point. I'm looking for the ROM with thé best performance. I don't care if it's a MIUI-ROM or anything else like that, I just want a buttery smooth phone. Ofcourse a decent battery life is kind-of required too. I was told STOCK-ROM's have the best performance in the market, but the 'buttery smoothness' is losing it's potential to be honest. Or I might ask for something that just isn't possible, in that case, I'd appreciate your opinion too.
Now it would be too much to ask for good battery life, good performance and good customization, so I'm only really asking about the first two. I've tried crossbreeder mod, putting scale animations on 0.5 in dev settings, other fly-on mods, but I'm still not really satisfied yet. If you have any other optimization-ideas, let me know.
Chrome and Snapchat are just slow like hell, other apps often take a very long time too , I'm just looking for something I don't know.
If you have any suggestions, I'm excited to hear about it!
Ty!
Edit: I also read something about the influence of governors in performance. What are the best options to go for in this type of customization?

I use Omni lollipop & freeze / delete the stuff i don't want. This gives me good ram & better performance over stock. Best performance use F-kernel but you may need to do the additional instructions in the F-Kernel Q/A thread to get Nova Thor to work. I tried it & got better performance but it was never quite stable enough for me. On FKernal lollipop i had to add the Nova Thor app & add a init.d script granting the Mali folder permissions 755 (see thread).
The issue for me with this device was the memory & multi tasks but with Omni its does the job. Also with stock the cve issues, Omni lolli more upto date.
Oh yeah if you can don't use Gplay as its a hog on older devices, just my 2 cents.

No gapps !

kurtn said:
No gapps !
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How can you imagine an android phone without gapps these days ?

I'm writing with it.

kurtn said:
I'm writing with it.
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So how does it feel?

kweetvannix said:
So how does it feel?
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I feel free. Most of my apps are from f-droid.

kurtn said:
I feel free. Most of my apps are from f-droid.
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Yeah no Gapps! As above Fdroid & UpTown Down, Guardian Project.
If you must use Gapps on a old device use a Pico minimal install to get the play store.

Sidebandit said:
Yeah no Gapps! As above Fdroid & UpTown Down, Guardian Project.
If you must use Gapps on a old device use a Pico minimal install to get the play store.
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What works well in this ROM is xposed fakegapps and microG instead of gapps

I recommend stock ROM with stock kernel for best hardware compatibility and performance.
I tried several custom ROM but unfortunately (in my phone) there are some incompatibilities with the hardware. Compass is not perfectly working and the most annoying is charging was never complete to 100%. They are also uses more RAM.
I installed custom kernel (3.0.101) on stock ROM and having problem with charging. I think it is a kernel-related issue. So, I revert back to stock kernel (3.0.31) and everything came back to normal.
For better performance, try uninstalling un-needed apps (Samsung and Google apps, including Google Play Services). You can use microG GmsCore to replace Google Play Services. It even has alternative to Network Location. :good: I am also using older version of some apps because it seems to use less RAM than newer versions. Google Play Store is working with microG.
For smoother scrolling, I activate "Force GPU Rendering" in Settings > Developer options. It helps scrolling performance in Contact and Messaging apps a bit.

mandayugana said:
I recommend stock ROM with stock kernel for best hardware compatibility and performance.
I tried several custom ROM but unfortunately (in my phone) there are some incompatibilities with the hardware. Compass is not perfectly working and the most annoying is charging was never complete to 100%. They are also uses more RAM.
I installed custom kernel (3.0.101) on stock ROM and having problem with charging. I think it is a kernel-related issue. So, I revert back to stock kernel (3.0.31) and everything came back to normal.
For better performance, try uninstalling un-needed apps (Samsung and Google apps, including Google Play Services). You can use microG GmsCore to replace Google Play Services. It even has alternative to Network Location. :good: I am also using older version of some apps because it seems to use less RAM than newer versions. Google Play Store is working with microG.
For smoother scrolling, I activate "Force GPU Rendering" in Settings > Developer options. It helps scrolling performance in Contact and Messaging apps a bit.
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Yes, sounds like a good idea for speed, but a bad idea for security. Using an outdated ROM, the only protection comes from an uptodate playservices. Microg has no malware protection.

OnePlus 7 Pro - Favourite rom and why?

Hey guys.
I've created a thread like this for previous devices and think it's time to start one here too, now that we have a wealth of roms to choose from!
This can be a place to have a general chat about which rom you're currently running as your daily driver and for which reasons, such as stability, features, update frequency etc.
I'll kick it off saying that I'm on HavicOS at present. It's feature-rich, nippy and updates are relatively frequent! Though I do experience the odd bug every now and then, such as the screen not turning on at times forcing me to reboot, some weird camera behaviour and no WiFi calling.
I'm tempted to go back to OOS and use a magisk rom, such as Renovate, just for pure stability, as well as the temptation to try out the newly released Official Resurrection Remix rom!
Your turn.....

I'm really liking Bliss. I've used it in the past way back on my Nexus 5. It's got a lot of features, and runs smoothly!

OOS because best battery life

Stock rom because is a oneplus

Oxygen OS for gestures. Well done, stable, with all i need/want.

I would take Havoc over OOS because of AOSP is soooo nice built and with alot of nice handy features in Havoc. But with alot of bugs in Havoc with gestures, some apps not really optimised for AOSP like they run on OOS and just that OOS just a tiny bit faster in everyway I moved back to stock yesterday and keeping it that way for a couple weeks for more stable updates to Havoc to come before switching back..

With current oos, I don't see the need for other roms, maybe for having some fun.

OOS and throw in a few Magisk modules mods...

OOS is soo smooth, especially with forced 90hz all apps. It makes less then 1% battery difference per hour so it's basically not even noticeable. OOS is so stable and it really doesn't need anything else and anything I do need I can mod or add myself like a Kernel or Magisk mods or some custom tweaks.
With OSS there really is no need for a custom ROM other than for people that still can't let go of just flashing for the hell of it.

Eric214 said:
OOS is soo smooth, especially with forced 90hz all apps. It makes less then 1% battery difference per hour so it's basically not even noticeable. OOS is so stable and it really doesn't need anything else and anything I do need I can mod or add myself like a Kernel or Magisk mods or some custom tweaks.
With OSS there really is no need for a custom ROM other than for people that still can't let go of just flashing for the hell of it.
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That's me: a flashaholic! XD I love trying out all the work the devs have to offer. Android has been my hobby since 2009

I've tried all roms and always go back to OOS with renovate ice, forced 90hz, arter97 kernel/f2fs data format and animations set to 0.5.
otherwise Havoc with the Android 10 edge gestures is my fave. Speaking of gestures, is there a mod that adds the Android 10 edge gestures on OOS pie?

Stock OOS. I see no reason to change

LineageOS. Awesome battery life, amazing support, and OTA's

OOS with SmurfKernel, Renovate ICE, Swift Themes, and G-Visual Mod.
This combo works great because of the system-wide dark theme and how fast the phone is. Fastest benchmark ever recorded is SmurfKernel 2.8.0 on OOS, and the UI is unbelievably smooth

Arden144 said:
OOS with SmurfKernel, Renovate ICE, Swift Themes, and G-Visual Mod.
This combo works great because of the system-wide dark theme and how fast the phone is. Fastest benchmark ever recorded is SmurfKernel 2.8.0 on OOS, and the UI is unbelievably smooth
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Hi, May i ask what you use om g visual mod? Why use it etc? What dpi do u use and do you have a SS of the mod active? ?

mikkis2k said:
Hi, May i ask what you use om g visual mod? Why use it etc? What dpi do u use and do you have a SS of the mod active? ?
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I use it for curved corners on UI elements like the notification panel. I use only it's corner mod with the smaller dpi option

So after some indecisiveness I made my mind up and returned back to latest stable release of OOS with RenovateICE and SmurfKernel from HavocOS.
I just admit, everything is just SUPER quick and I don't really find myself noticing missing any features.
There's a couple things that are different and that I kinda miss, such as on AOSP when connected to WiFi and wanting to tether that WiFi connection, you can, whereas on the OOS you can't. Also having to reboot to apply substratum themes, but that's a small thing really.
I'm gonna see how things go, tempted by the latest Android 10 release but will likely wait for stable...

cd993 said:
There's a couple things that are different and that I kinda miss, such as on AOSP when connected to WiFi and wanting to tether that WiFi connection, you can, whereas on the OOS you can't. Also having to reboot to apply substratum themes, but that's a small thing really.
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Forgive me if I am missing something, but this sounds really pointless to me at face value. What is the benefit? Why not just connect to the WiFI directly rather than via the phone?

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Forgive me if I am missing something, but this sounds really pointless to me at face value. What is the benefit? Why not just connect to the WiFI directly rather than via the phone?
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No indeed, I get what you're saying. My work laptop for example can be funny and I find that it won't always connect to a public WiFi (even though I'll use a VPN once connected) but my phone can be connected to it (when my own signal is slower) and then I'd tether that.
It is though a very small thing. I noticed when I came from the Mi 9 that activating hot-spot keeps the WiFi connection alive and shares that, then coming to the OP7 Pro I noticed disconnects (though on AOSP, it didn't)

What's people's thoughts on Android 10 OOS, how you finding it and the magisk roms availability/stability for it?

Question Is it worth it to install a Custom Rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro?

I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.

it is, I've been using debloated miui11 and 12 on tulip for over 2 years, it is much, much better than original miui. My wife has been using custom aicp on rn4x, and again, experience was much better, than on stock.
Apps will work in 99% cases, if not, there are tutorials how to install them. Stuff that you have to look over the most are banking apps, nfc apps and rn10p miui stock cam (which is actually better, than gcam mods now).
RN10p does not have anti rollback protection, it is generally easier to flash than smartphones based on mediatek cpus, so you must done some physical damage to actually broke this phone.
About OTA's - there are options to install ota updates on custom recovieries like skyhawk recovery project or others to twrp (this recovery does not have that option, as far as I know). If that fails, you can always install new version on top of the old.

Ok thanks a lot! Are there any suggestions you can give me on what rom i should use on the rn10p and can you give me any tips about installing and using custom roms? I'm new to this.

I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.

buczek0711 said:
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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Thanks a ton for your help! I'll install pixel experience and try it out tomorrow. I'll root it and install the stock camera. Wish me luck.

Zare_ said:
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
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I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?

LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.

LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke?

buczek0711 said:
Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
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Exactly, Thanks!

Stock ROM vs Custom for my parent. Simple use, less complicated

Hello everyone.
I just got a used Mi 8 for my mother to replace her very old android 8 device with 1gb of ram. This old flagship with SD845 and 6gb ram will be a shock to handle and I hope it will server her well for at least 3-4 years more. Condition of device was perfect and also battery health.
She is not a power user and will only operate the device for calls/camera/viber messaging and calling.
Regarding the above I am searching the best pick for a ROM. I have seen the official MIUI 12.0.3 very stable and 0 problems for daily driver.
I am only worried about bloatware and security risks since it has not been updated for almost 8months+.
I will install some banking apps so I want to make sure there will be no risk with these.
Should I give the phone stock or go for a custom rom that can be safe enough and stable for the above usage?
Appreciate any thoughts you share with me on this thread.
Thanks again

Noone?

bump and hope someone sees and replies.

Hello there, I have just seen your post. Personally, I prefer LineageOS (fast and simple), crDroid (for customisations) and Pixel Experience (for battery). However, there are some MIUI 13 Android 12 patches (there is no NFC support) if she got used to MIUI

Advanced Gears said:
Hello there, I have just seen your post. Personally, I prefer LineageOS (fast and simple), crDroid (for customisations) and Pixel Experience (for battery). However, there are some MIUI 13 Android 12 patches (there is no NFC support) if she got used to MIUI
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Hi and thanks for reply, though your answer is not on point with my question. I am mostly worried about bloatware and banking apps so being the most stable and less dangerous ROM is the criteria of choice.
I am just confused if it is better to stay stock with almost 9months of no updates or take the risky way of a custom ROM that is updated.....but it is always a custom ROM.

Firstly, every official custom ROM has OTA updates and therefore some people could say installing on a custom rom can be less dangerous (MIUI has not, while Mi 8 is not supported by Xiaomi, anymore).
Secondly, NFC is supported on every custom ROM (and, thus, payment services).
Last but not least, MIUI ROM's have many extra apps (Security, Google app, Digital Wellbeing etc) and that's why the system occupies 7.72GB of storage space. On a custom ROM, the size is really less (from 3.5 to 4.5GB of storage space, depending on the ROM).
Consequently, were it up to me, I would choice either LineageOS (the most debloated ROM for Mi 8) or Pixel Experience (maybe, the most battery friendly one)

Question is there any way to overcome Miui controling over apps and permissions

Hello guys
I am on MIUI 12.0.5 and I am suffering from miui constantly shutting down my apps permissions and making the apps services stop for example accessibility or usage permissions. I am tired and tried all solutions available from locking the apps in background to removing miui battery optimization, still miui finds way to stop the apps.
does rooting help in this regard because I am really sick and start to look for another phone brand.
Thanks

Johnton said:
Hello guys
I am on MIUI 12.0.5 and I am suffering from miui constantly shutting down my apps permissions and making the apps services stop for example accessibility or usage permissions. I am tired and tried all solutions available from locking the apps in background to removing miui battery optimization, still miui finds way to stop the apps.
does rooting help in this regard because I am really sick and start to look for another phone brand.
Thanks
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Yes, but not rooting alone.
You have to install a custom ROM.
At the moment I prefer los20 but also others not bad. Depends on your using and wishes.....

Johnton said:
... I am tired and tried all solutions available from locking the apps in background to removing miui battery optimization, still miui finds way to stop the apps.
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This is one of the reasons why some reject Miui and choose for a custom rom.

guys I actually tried almost all custom roms for this device with no offense to any rom developer nobody could make a stable rom [without deep sleep issues which ****ed me] like miui sadly that's why I went back to miui 12 in hope that It's less aggressive than 13 which was crazy controlling
I want other solutions than custom roms because I don't want to format my device now and I never found any rom that suits all my need, it's either have nice features but not stable or the other way.