Stock ROM vs Custom for my parent. Simple use, less complicated - Xiaomi Mi 8 Questions & Answers

Hello everyone.
I just got a used Mi 8 for my mother to replace her very old android 8 device with 1gb of ram. This old flagship with SD845 and 6gb ram will be a shock to handle and I hope it will server her well for at least 3-4 years more. Condition of device was perfect and also battery health.
She is not a power user and will only operate the device for calls/camera/viber messaging and calling.
Regarding the above I am searching the best pick for a ROM. I have seen the official MIUI 12.0.3 very stable and 0 problems for daily driver.
I am only worried about bloatware and security risks since it has not been updated for almost 8months+.
I will install some banking apps so I want to make sure there will be no risk with these.
Should I give the phone stock or go for a custom rom that can be safe enough and stable for the above usage?
Appreciate any thoughts you share with me on this thread.
Thanks again

Noone?

bump and hope someone sees and replies.

Hello there, I have just seen your post. Personally, I prefer LineageOS (fast and simple), crDroid (for customisations) and Pixel Experience (for battery). However, there are some MIUI 13 Android 12 patches (there is no NFC support) if she got used to MIUI

Advanced Gears said:
Hello there, I have just seen your post. Personally, I prefer LineageOS (fast and simple), crDroid (for customisations) and Pixel Experience (for battery). However, there are some MIUI 13 Android 12 patches (there is no NFC support) if she got used to MIUI
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Hi and thanks for reply, though your answer is not on point with my question. I am mostly worried about bloatware and banking apps so being the most stable and less dangerous ROM is the criteria of choice.
I am just confused if it is better to stay stock with almost 9months of no updates or take the risky way of a custom ROM that is updated.....but it is always a custom ROM.

Firstly, every official custom ROM has OTA updates and therefore some people could say installing on a custom rom can be less dangerous (MIUI has not, while Mi 8 is not supported by Xiaomi, anymore).
Secondly, NFC is supported on every custom ROM (and, thus, payment services).
Last but not least, MIUI ROM's have many extra apps (Security, Google app, Digital Wellbeing etc) and that's why the system occupies 7.72GB of storage space. On a custom ROM, the size is really less (from 3.5 to 4.5GB of storage space, depending on the ROM).
Consequently, were it up to me, I would choice either LineageOS (the most debloated ROM for Mi 8) or Pixel Experience (maybe, the most battery friendly one)

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[Question] Regarding custom roms

Hi everyone,
Am currently on EMUI 9 (.241) I have been through the threads of custom roms in this forum but I see that almost all of them need some specific version of EMUI 9 as base before one can flash those roms. I was wondering the following:
1> If any rom would work directly for me on my current EMUI 9 version.
2> How are the roms compared to EMUI when it comes to battery life, native camera app & stability mostly. I do not care much about NFC or dual speakers.
Emui is more optimised for the cpu than custom roms.
Hi
My experience between stocks, and custom (CypherOS, and Lineage)
Performance
You can check the benchmarks. with performance mood, stock
Is better, normal mood AOSCP is better
Battery
(Stock is better)
Have no screenshots, but for my case it's significantly better in stocks.
Hardware Compatibility:
(Stock wins)
I switched saying the same -i don't need USB headphones, dual speaker or NFC-
But for me I realized u only miss what u don't have. Sound quality is inferior and NFC is not compatible with extended bytes (I use it for official NFC cards)
One more thing, cameras API was exported and one thing that is not working is RAW pictures.
My verdict
As long we don't have a open source Huawei kernel and drivers I would stick with Huawei.
What I did though is
CPL lunchers
Root/Magisk passes safety net
Deleted/disabled Huawei bloatware background services.
Hope this is informative.
Thanks, much appreciated. Am currently rooted on EMUI 9 with just the right amount of customization. Was wondering if custom roms would give better performance and battery life and if it's worth the effort to install one. Your reply makes sense.

OnePlus 7 Pro - Favourite rom and why?

Hey guys.
I've created a thread like this for previous devices and think it's time to start one here too, now that we have a wealth of roms to choose from!
This can be a place to have a general chat about which rom you're currently running as your daily driver and for which reasons, such as stability, features, update frequency etc.
I'll kick it off saying that I'm on HavicOS at present. It's feature-rich, nippy and updates are relatively frequent! Though I do experience the odd bug every now and then, such as the screen not turning on at times forcing me to reboot, some weird camera behaviour and no WiFi calling.
I'm tempted to go back to OOS and use a magisk rom, such as Renovate, just for pure stability, as well as the temptation to try out the newly released Official Resurrection Remix rom!
Your turn.....
I'm really liking Bliss. I've used it in the past way back on my Nexus 5. It's got a lot of features, and runs smoothly!
OOS because best battery life
Stock rom because is a oneplus
Oxygen OS for gestures. Well done, stable, with all i need/want.
I would take Havoc over OOS because of AOSP is soooo nice built and with alot of nice handy features in Havoc. But with alot of bugs in Havoc with gestures, some apps not really optimised for AOSP like they run on OOS and just that OOS just a tiny bit faster in everyway I moved back to stock yesterday and keeping it that way for a couple weeks for more stable updates to Havoc to come before switching back..
With current oos, I don't see the need for other roms, maybe for having some fun.
OOS and throw in a few Magisk modules mods...
OOS is soo smooth, especially with forced 90hz all apps. It makes less then 1% battery difference per hour so it's basically not even noticeable. OOS is so stable and it really doesn't need anything else and anything I do need I can mod or add myself like a Kernel or Magisk mods or some custom tweaks.
With OSS there really is no need for a custom ROM other than for people that still can't let go of just flashing for the hell of it.
Eric214 said:
OOS is soo smooth, especially with forced 90hz all apps. It makes less then 1% battery difference per hour so it's basically not even noticeable. OOS is so stable and it really doesn't need anything else and anything I do need I can mod or add myself like a Kernel or Magisk mods or some custom tweaks.
With OSS there really is no need for a custom ROM other than for people that still can't let go of just flashing for the hell of it.
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That's me: a flashaholic! XD I love trying out all the work the devs have to offer. Android has been my hobby since 2009
I've tried all roms and always go back to OOS with renovate ice, forced 90hz, arter97 kernel/f2fs data format and animations set to 0.5.
otherwise Havoc with the Android 10 edge gestures is my fave. Speaking of gestures, is there a mod that adds the Android 10 edge gestures on OOS pie?
Stock OOS. I see no reason to change
LineageOS. Awesome battery life, amazing support, and OTA's
OOS with SmurfKernel, Renovate ICE, Swift Themes, and G-Visual Mod.
This combo works great because of the system-wide dark theme and how fast the phone is. Fastest benchmark ever recorded is SmurfKernel 2.8.0 on OOS, and the UI is unbelievably smooth
Arden144 said:
OOS with SmurfKernel, Renovate ICE, Swift Themes, and G-Visual Mod.
This combo works great because of the system-wide dark theme and how fast the phone is. Fastest benchmark ever recorded is SmurfKernel 2.8.0 on OOS, and the UI is unbelievably smooth
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Hi, May i ask what you use om g visual mod? Why use it etc? What dpi do u use and do you have a SS of the mod active? ?
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Hi, May i ask what you use om g visual mod? Why use it etc? What dpi do u use and do you have a SS of the mod active? ?
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I use it for curved corners on UI elements like the notification panel. I use only it's corner mod with the smaller dpi option
So after some indecisiveness I made my mind up and returned back to latest stable release of OOS with RenovateICE and SmurfKernel from HavocOS.
I just admit, everything is just SUPER quick and I don't really find myself noticing missing any features.
There's a couple things that are different and that I kinda miss, such as on AOSP when connected to WiFi and wanting to tether that WiFi connection, you can, whereas on the OOS you can't. Also having to reboot to apply substratum themes, but that's a small thing really.
I'm gonna see how things go, tempted by the latest Android 10 release but will likely wait for stable...
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There's a couple things that are different and that I kinda miss, such as on AOSP when connected to WiFi and wanting to tether that WiFi connection, you can, whereas on the OOS you can't. Also having to reboot to apply substratum themes, but that's a small thing really.
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Forgive me if I am missing something, but this sounds really pointless to me at face value. What is the benefit? Why not just connect to the WiFI directly rather than via the phone?
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Forgive me if I am missing something, but this sounds really pointless to me at face value. What is the benefit? Why not just connect to the WiFI directly rather than via the phone?
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No indeed, I get what you're saying. My work laptop for example can be funny and I find that it won't always connect to a public WiFi (even though I'll use a VPN once connected) but my phone can be connected to it (when my own signal is slower) and then I'd tether that.
It is though a very small thing. I noticed when I came from the Mi 9 that activating hot-spot keeps the WiFi connection alive and shares that, then coming to the OP7 Pro I noticed disconnects (though on AOSP, it didn't)
What's people's thoughts on Android 10 OOS, how you finding it and the magisk roms availability/stability for it?

[PROPOSAL/REQUEST] Can we have a Go Edition ROM for Huashan?

Good Day.
I would like to clarify that I do not know how to create ROMs and I do not know how to write codes(anymore) but since our devices are aging, would be it great to send our Xperia SP off with a bang with an Android GO edition-like ROM? our devices cant handle newer apps and processes anymore but at least I think the Go edition ROM can still make our phones as usable as daily drivers either on Android Q or Pie.
please consider. thank you.
As far as i may concerned, LOW RAM optimisations are already implemented in the codebase for current active ROMs for Huashan. And, to the best of my knowledge, which i may be wrong, these optimisations are derived from Android GO itself. I vaguely remember that at one time this is a main topic said by Adrian the master himself.
Huashan is no longer capable to run modern apps that somewhat uses heavy resources (which i myself don't understand why Instagram needed such a computing power). Unfortunately neither do current Go phones. That is why PWA is a thing to all Go devices. I.e. Maps Go, Twitter Lite, etc.
Of course this is not an objection to your proposal. Just thinking of dropping my thoughts here
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
emcom said:
Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
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I don't use gapps on LOS 15.1. Knowing that they crap the phone out.
LOS 15.1 is good, we get latest security updates, better UI etc.. but hangs and stutters more with apps and multitasking.
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Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
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How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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Of course it wakes up. I've been using it as my daily driver with WhatsApp for some time last year, and it was perfect. There was just one problem which I could not resolve : message backups. I mean, it was working perfectly when I made backups on the SD card, but if I wanted to have them somewhere in the cloud, the only option was the Google Drive - which is not working without Google services.
Btw. it's possible to use One Drive instead of Google Drive (eg. for photos backup in the cloud, but not WhatsApp - if you have maybe Office 365 subscription.
And it's possible to have anything else running without Google - contacts, messaging, even a lot of applications indicating they need Google on the phone - they are working without Google anyway. Thet's except for paid apps, of course.

best rom for mi9

Hello,
Bought my mi9 3 months ago, but don't apreciate miui at all.
I don't like google and all the apps i don't need.
I hope i could find a rom from xdadev but i'm lost, too hard for me.....:crying:
Perhaps somebody could help and drive me to the good place ?
Best regards.
chaussettdeguerr said:
Hello,
Bought my mi9 3 months ago, but don't apreciate miui at all.
I don't like google and all the apps i don't need.
I hope i could find a rom from xdadev but i'm lost, too hard for me.....:crying:
Perhaps somebody could help and drive me to the good place ?
Best regards.
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Lineage OS is a good value if you don't want google apps. AOSP apps replaces it (browser, messaging app, phone, camera, ...), but there is no bloatware.
But if you want to have more customization features, you can test crdroid or havoc os for example.
BeastROM is the best for me, everything's work on this Rom. Battery consumption is beyond your imagination.
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BeastROM is the best for me, everything's work on this Rom. Battery consumption is beyond your imagination.
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I can't believe but I'll try beast. Which versiin you've installed with which tuning or "addons"?
Laptapper said:
I can't believe but I'll try beast. Which versiin you've installed with which tuning or "addons"?
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The latest version v1.6-190829 no tuning, no add on, no root, no anything. This is the only aosp pie Rom where Dt2w and AoD are working flawlesly. But don't expect to have a fantastic antutu benchmark score. The kernel made the low level of cpu clock.
Rizali said:
The latest version v1.6-190829 no tuning, no add on, no root, no anything. This is the only aosp pie Rom where Dt2w and AoD are working flawlesly. But don't expect to have a fantastic antutu benchmark score. The kernel made the low level of cpu clock.
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I've seen that beastrom is android 9 and I've decided to stay on 10.
Or may I didn't found the newest?
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BeastROM is the best for me, everything's work on this Rom. Battery consumption is beyond your imagination.
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Android auto works on BeastROM?
Edit: noticed its based on PIE. No android 10?
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Android auto works on BeastROM?
Edit: noticed its based on PIE. No android 10?
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Sorry, never tried Android auto.
No Android 10 yet.
If the only reason you don't like miui is the amount of useless apps, all you need to do is debloat all of them. Even the Google app can be debloated.
I'm having trouble with all of these interface changes; I'm getting old.
I don't know if it's simple to unbloat my phone or change completely the rom, or if I risk bricking it.
Could you tell me if it is possible to save my stock rom or find it somewhere, to come back to it if i give a try to lineage os or debloat my useless apps. I have global 11.0.6.0 QFAEUXM.
Is there somewhere in the mi9 forum a tuto for newbies to change the rom to lineageOS ?
Installed ADB/Fastboot tools, but don't know what i can uninstall without problems ; i don't even know what are all those apps.
Sorry for my bad english.
Best regards.
Hi @chaussettdeguerr, I suggest you use the original one from MIUI. Based on the information above, you will have 11.0.8 soon. You just need to organize the icon into an Unused folder and forget about it (troubled applications). Anything else you can do as you like from themes to font and so on. From my experience, changing from one room to another is not a good idea for long time user. It will waste a lot of time from here to there. You can alway try new themes and stuff from the Store until you like something without switching rooms
Thanks
But i installed ADB tools as suggested and removed 31 apps.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-cc9/help/packages-safe-to-remove-problems-t4006171 by banes768
Without problems .
now experiencing....
Thank you all
I thing you have to select from 2 categories,
MIUI based or AOSP based
If you care about Camera and stability, go for MIUI based.
If you care about Smoothness, Stock android 10 gesture and light battery usage.
I couldn't stay more than 3 weeks with AOSP because of serious Camera issues, 4K Video recording was choppy, photos shotted at 2 mega pixel if I set to 16MP or 48MP.
Screen Mirroring will not work on AOSPs and will reboot phone.
My recommendation is Xiaomi.EU or MiRoom (first boot is in russian language and you have to search in settings to find Eng language )

Question Is it worth it to install a Custom Rom on the Redmi Note 10 Pro?

I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
it is, I've been using debloated miui11 and 12 on tulip for over 2 years, it is much, much better than original miui. My wife has been using custom aicp on rn4x, and again, experience was much better, than on stock.
Apps will work in 99% cases, if not, there are tutorials how to install them. Stuff that you have to look over the most are banking apps, nfc apps and rn10p miui stock cam (which is actually better, than gcam mods now).
RN10p does not have anti rollback protection, it is generally easier to flash than smartphones based on mediatek cpus, so you must done some physical damage to actually broke this phone.
About OTA's - there are options to install ota updates on custom recovieries like skyhawk recovery project or others to twrp (this recovery does not have that option, as far as I know). If that fails, you can always install new version on top of the old.
Ok thanks a lot! Are there any suggestions you can give me on what rom i should use on the rn10p and can you give me any tips about installing and using custom roms? I'm new to this.
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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Thanks a ton for your help! I'll install pixel experience and try it out tomorrow. I'll root it and install the stock camera. Wish me luck.
Zare_ said:
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
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I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
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Exactly, Thanks!

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