Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
vercetti said:
Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
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Hi, here in the UK on the latest build for Lollipop I was unable to install Fancy Switcher, as it said it wasn't compatible with my device.
I'm not very keen on the stock recents however I believe the marshmallow update change's this from 4 apps on a screen to a single app per screen
Lock screen, not very nice and ability to set apps as sensitive to stop them displaying the app sender or message (for example in WhatsApp) which is something I really miss from previous Lollipop and Marshmallow that I had on a HTC One M8 running Google Play Edition. I've tried 'Next' lock screen app from Microsoft but unable to unlock with fingerprint so its probably only a function that works with the stock lock screen. As Marshmallow has native support for fingerprint sensors maybe the update will bring additional functionality however we will have to wait and see.
I did register for Marshmallow beta testing but don't appear to have been selected unless rollout is slow.
I like the phone but almost wish I had waiting and tried a Mate 8. The extra battery size and already on Marshmallow may make it a better choice.
I've always been a stock android or custom ROM person however I quite like some features of the EMUI skin...just wish there were a few more customisations and built in features that were enabled as standard...like the ability to change the cycle date of your mobile data plan.
Gavin
hey gavin,
thx for the nice reply.
the recent apps menu in marshmallow makes it even worse if only 1 app is available per screen. to get to the 5th app you'd have to swipe 5 times (compared to now with just one swipe)! that really sucks - 1 app per screen?!?
too bad about fancy switcher, that would look nice if it worked. i found switcher so far but it doesn't work 100% on my note 2. would you try that one out for me?
lock screen - how are notifactions presented? would you have a screenshot? and they can be swiped away right from the lockscreen?
thx for your help,
vercetti.
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
vercetti said:
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
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I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
Regards
Gavin
brumgav said:
I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
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Gavin
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Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
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Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
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I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
I guess if you dont set a PIN or fingerprint then it will just open the app but i prefer the security of having my phone locked securely with fingerprint.
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I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader.
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too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
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and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
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When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
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When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
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Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
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Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
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The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
I'm really hoping that the MM update and EMUI 4.0 update bring lots of new features.
I brought an iPhone 6 Plus a month ago to have a look at it, as I had the opportunity to buy one, have a play and sell it without making a loss and I admit I really quite liked some of its features...considering the CPU the iPhones are so fast but I hated the notification centre, Android really have a great notification system and I prefered being able to customise lots of features, particulary with ROMs like Cyanogen. I sold it and after seeing the Mate S online thought it looked great and thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
I have seen youtube videos comparing Galaxy S6 and Mate 8 (yes the bigger Mate S with better CPU) however the S6 still wsa very powerful on graphics.
Like I said, hopeing the MM and EMUI update brings some improvement however, for jsut a normal phone user that uses phone on train during morning commute for 40 minutes I'm more than happy with it. Finger print sensor on the rear is perfect, I've barely opened the front cover of my phone case and just natural position of my hand and first finger is perfect so the phone is unlocked ready for me. I think my thumb was at risk of being strained on my HTC One M8 which I had pattern unlock....when I look back I don't know how I managed to keep doing that pattern so many times, and also the risk that a pick pocket could learn my pattern over time.
Hope this is helping you.
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The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
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hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
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those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
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that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
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perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
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probably not out yet...
thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
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not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
Hope this is helping you.
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yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
probably not out yet...
not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
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No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
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No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
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Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I'll try and take a look at a different launcher and the themes thing later tonight when home from work.
Just a quick point though, the lockscreen notifications only work with a particular lockscreen type called Magazine Unlock... This is a type of lockscreen that cycles through a gallery of images....not sure if the images are customisable.
Here is a snapshot of a normal lockscreen with limited notification details compared with the magazine lockscreen. You can see one has the message details and the other is very basic with just an icon.
hey, now that sucks! only magazine lockscreen gives you more info on notifications? all the others simply show the icon?!? wow, that is really disappointing...
thx for trying later today, can't wait!
from a quick internet search I think it's possible to stop the switching pix in the magazine lockscreen. also which pix should be used. so you can actually control which and also how many (or only 1) are used.
The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
vercetti said:
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
Thx for clarifying this suprman.
Lockscreen doesn't sound very good unfortunately...
which theme and lockscreen do you use?
I read in older Huawei threads that one can change the lockscreen style. "halo" style got rid of the 4 standard shortcuts on the bottom (which to my knowledge are also not modifiable...) and instead let's you set up 4 custom shortcuts. but maybe huawei did away with this feature nowadays.
which design (theme) do you use?
thx,
vercetti.
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The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
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Thanks for the comments, that summarised what I was going to so with the themes later.
Did you know you can open the app from the lockscreen by swiping it to the right...and then touching fingerprint sensor?
I have no power saving settings on like aggressive doze or close high powered apps.
Ill just let my 3T's screen turn off and send an email to my gmail account from my work email. I will not get a notification unless I turn on the screen.
Yes, I have this issue only with Gmail, Oxygen 4.0.2.
Same here.
It happens with WhatsApp as well but I hadn't had time to troubleshoot it.
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I have no power saving settings on like aggressive doze or close high powered apps.
Ill just let my 3T's screen turn off and send an email to my gmail account from my work email. I will not get a notification unless I turn on the screen.
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Yes, I have this issue only with Gmail, Oxygen 4.0.2.
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Gmail/Inbox use normal priority notifications as opposed to high priority, therefore will never bypass Doze. For some odd reason however, selecting Do Not Optimize makes no difference. This issue is not specific to the 3T.
I have noticed this too with whatsapp i can't remember if it started happening on 4.0.2 or when i flashed a different kernel, probably 4.0.2 related
I have exactly the same issue ... mostly with gmail and possibly with other apps like Whatsapp (I need to use my phone more to be sure) but surely and deeply with gmail.
Sometimes I receive push notifications on my OnePlus3T (running OOS 4.0.2 and unrooted) flawlessly, sometimes it takes a delay from one minutes to several, sometimes I need to wake up my phone (with the Jedi move of waving my hand over the proximity sensor) and sometimes I need to open the gmail app and force the update with a slide.
I think I also notice a random delay for the notification even if the screen is on and the phone in use, which seems to exculpate the doze mode but I'm not 100% sure and it is much more rare.
This is really annoying to me as I didn't have this issue with my old Nexus 5 and which I don't have on my work iPhone. I try to convince myself that it is not a big deal but it's not easy ^^.
I tried to contact Google on this but they weren't helpful on that matter.
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Gmail/Inbox use normal priority notifications as opposed to high priority, therefore will never bypass Doze. For some odd reason however, selecting Do Not Optimize makes no difference. This issue is not specific to the 3T.
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There a 120 pages post on the OnePlus forum about this issue on the OnePlus 3, even before OOS 4.
Can you tell me where is the "Do Not Optimize" option you're talking about (despite it is not working, strangely) thanks !
if you are ready to sacrifice a little bit of battery life, you can turn off Doze. You would need to do that in 2 places.
1. Settings -> Battery -> Three dots top right -> Aggressive doze and app hibernation -> Turn off
2. Settings -> About Phone -> Keep taping Build Number until phone marks you as a developer -> Go back one screen -> Developer Options -> Doze mode -> Turn off
I hope this helps.
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Gmail/Inbox use normal priority notifications as opposed to high priority, therefore will never bypass Doze. For some odd reason however, selecting Do Not Optimize makes no difference. This issue is not specific to the 3T.
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if you are ready to sacrifice a little bit of battery life, you can turn off Doze. You would need to do that in 2 places.
1. Settings -> Battery -> Three dots top right -> Aggressive doze and app hibernation -> Turn off
2. Settings -> About Phone -> Keep taping Build Number until phone marks you as a developer -> Go back one screen -> Developer Options -> Doze mode -> Turn off
I hope this helps.
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Thanks for the tip.
I will give it a try but read on the OnePlus forum that it was not really a game changer.
I hope people working on Android know about this "feature" and will correct it soon if it has an impact on all Android N users !
I have that same issue.
Everything was working for me perfectly then all of sudden. Notification for Gmail Google plus and WhatsApp stops working no matter I am on mobile network or WiFi.
It work only when I open the app
I am on RR Rom
The easiest fix I found for my work email (Nine), which wasn't getting timely push notifications... was to just turn off battery optimization for this app. That made it perfect and instant notifications again. Presumably it uses more battery in this mode, but I still need it.
dusktrader said:
The easiest fix I found for my work email (Nine), which wasn't getting timely push notifications... was to just turn off battery optimization for this app. That made it perfect and instant notifications again. Presumably it uses more battery in this mode, but I still need it.
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How exactly does one turn off optimization? I can't find that option. Thanks
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I guess this is issue with number of handsets, I am facing this issue in my leeco LE 2 as well. Thinking of upgrading to op3t just for this issue but found this thread, what a bummer.
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jaliscojorge said:
How exactly does one turn off optimization? I can't find that option. Thanks
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It's kindof hidden:
Go to Settings-> Battery-> 3 dots in upper right
Then in Battery Optimization section, select 'All apps' from the pulldown selector at top.
Then find your app and change it to 'not optimized'
dusktrader said:
It's kindof hidden:
Go to Settings-> Battery-> 3 dots in upper right
Then in Battery Optimization section, select 'All apps' from the pulldown selector at top.
Then find your app and change it to 'not optimized'
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Yes it was kind of like an easter egg but I found it. Notifications are coming in on time so far I hope that's fixed the problem. Thank you
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dusktrader said:
It's kindof hidden:
Go to Settings-> Battery-> 3 dots in upper right
Then in Battery Optimization section, select 'All apps' from the pulldown selector at top.
Then find your app and change it to 'not optimized'
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I dont find Gmail in the listed app?
In the Battery Menu/3 dots I don't have a Battery Optimisation Section but 2 settings (with my own translation from French to English, sorry about that) :
- apps hibernation & doze
- greedy application management
In the first option, there's a selector to activate or not the Apps hibernation & aggressive doze --> I disabled the option (and one can choose the app to optimize or not, but gmail is not on the list)
In the second option, I have a selector to allow to shutdown automatically "greedy" apps --> I disabled the option
However, in the Applications menu, while choosing the wheel then the Special Access Menu, there's an option for "Battery Optimisation" in which one can choose - one by one - the Apps that are optimised or not.
Anyway, for me, disabling the Doze mode in the Developper options seems to solve the problem with Gmail but i still have issues with delayed/lost notifications for other Apps (Twitter, Le Monde, ...).
And I'm running 4.0.3
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I dont find Gmail in the listed app?
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That's weird, I do have Gmail listed in mine. Make sure you set it to show all apps.
Also, I haven't done anything unusual with Gmail, like converted it to a system app, for example. It was flashed as part of Gapps Micro.
FI, just posted a bug report on that issue : https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/random-delay-with-push-notificatio-ns.500958/
I have tried everything I can find in the settings but apps that are excluded from "lock screen cleanup" are still closed.
I have locked them in the recent apps panel, I allow them to use background data, data saver is disabled, but regardless, the apps are always killed by locking the screen. I thought this aggressive battery behavior was supposed to be fixed in EMUI 5.
I am suffering with the same problem on my P10 where background processes are killed after locking the screen despite having set them not to close the app and its service are killed sometimes when the screen locks. Android 7.0 EMUI 5.1 VTR-L29C432B151
Is there any solution for this? - I use a Zoiper for SIP calls and it is being stopped and I am missing calls
Turning off the close option in Lock screen clean up did not make any difference but, I did see in settings -> Battery -> "Settings Gear" an option to 'Close excessively power-intensive apps' and turned it off - but not tested it long enough to see if it fixes the problem.
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Yes, same here - missing notification from Ring doorbell, missing updates from Tile and Life360 and Withings watch not synchronising automatically... Annoying behaviour.
Ok, tried something today and so far apps aren't closing - even after a few hours. Open Settings | Apps and click the settings at the bottom. Tap Special Access | Ignore battery optimisation... Select the apps you want to keep alive by switching to "Allowed".
I also have Battery | Lockscreen Cleanup disabled for all apps and the "Close excessively power-intensive apps" option unchecked.
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Ok, tried something today and so far apps aren't closing - even after a few hours. Open Settings | Apps and click the settings at the bottom. Tap Special Access | Ignore battery optimisation... Select the apps you want to keep alive by switching to "Allowed"..
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When I do that I only get a list of a few Apps, the ones I want to keep running are not included - Is there a way to add them to this list?
Tap the arrow to show Allowed or All.
Sorry for the false alarm folks. Overnight all apps were closed again, regardless of the "Ignore policy" setting...
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Sorry for the false alarm folks. Overnight all apps were closed again, regardless of the "Ignore policy" setting...
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At first I thought it was working, but eventually all the apps that I needed running always were terminated and had to be restarted manually.
This bug is so incredibly annoying, is it by chance fixed in VTR-L29C432B164 - I am getting so fed up with this phone killing services that I rely on to be running all the time - I don't care if they consume more power, I just need them to keep running.
I have the same issue on P10 Lite WAS-LX1AC423B171 this is the latest firmware I could install. Driving me mental!!!!
Hello, I installed the last Global ROM (11.3.3). I have a problem with notification: there's the same bug as all Xiaomi devices with notch: the notification doesn't appear near the clock.
Moreover, WhatsApp notification doesn't appear in the lockscreen (even if I selected to show the notifications in the app settings). This fact, anyway, does not show if I remove the lockscreen PIN.
There's a fix for these two problems?
I cant post screenshots as a new user..
Anyways, Settings/Display/Notch&Status Bar/ and hit the "enable icons" which is disabled.
Hope this helps.
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I cant post screenshots as a new user..
Anyways, Settings/Display/Notch&Status Bar/ and hit the "enable icons" which is disabled.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you! It restored the notification in the notification area. But I'd like also to know how to show the notifications in the lockscreen. The problem seems to be only with whatsapp, as Facebook's and Instagram's (for example) notifications are shown there.
I am trying but I can't find it right now.
What I can say is, I did have working notifications at some point but it allowed anyone to see the content of my Whatsapp messages and even reply to them without unlocking the phone so I turned them off somehow (was probably Special Settings/Quick replies)
Going to look further, the Notifications in Settings don't do anything. It could have something to do with me blocking the Internet on most Xiaomi apps but I sure hope that's not the case.
Edit: found something interesting in settings/apps/other settings. Selected messages and at thr bottom there is a setting to show notifications and guess what. it only has a single option related to the lock screen "don't show notifications at all" so it cannot be changed.
woah this miui is a mess
edit: I went ahead and debloated the phone from most of the Xiaomi apps. I have no access no notifications settings anymore but it didn't fix the problem
edit2: softlocked my phone and had to wipe everything. Notifications are back on stock lol
FIXED IT! woohoo!
After many, many hours of messing with my phone .. here's what you have to do:
Settings-Passwords & security - Privacy - Special app access - Battery optimisation
Here, click the blue bar and select "All apps"
Now scroll down until you find "Notifications" and open it.
Select "Don't optimise"
Holy mother of god NOW THAT'S A MAZE IF I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE!
sorry about the double post but wtf Miui
Edit: it breaks after the first notification. Then I reboot the phone and again it works for the first notification uhm yeah I give up. So I put it in Optimisation mode again, along with Always On and settings storage (had disabled them earlier) and now notifications pop on my lock screen but only new notifications!
Once I've unlocked the phone, the lock screen is empty until something new comes. However my Apple Music app now shows on lock screen as well with the typical controls for switching songs.
banes768 said:
FIXED IT! woohoo!
After many, many hours of messing with my phone .. here's what you have to do:
Settings-Passwords & security - Privacy - Special app access - Battery optimisation
Here, click the blue bar and select "All apps"
Now scroll down until you find "Notifications" and open it.
Select "Don't optimise"
Holy mother of god NOW THAT'S A MAZE IF I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE!
sorry about the double post but wtf Miui
Edit: it breaks after the first notification. Then I reboot the phone and again it works for the first notification uhm yeah I give up. So I put it in Optimisation mode again, along with Always On and settings storage (had disabled them earlier) and now notifications pop on my lock screen but only new notifications!
Once I've unlocked the phone, the lock screen is empty until something new comes. However my Apple Music app now shows on lock screen as well with the typical controls for switching songs.
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Thanks man!! I'll give a try! I've also discovered that notification were blocked, on lockscreen, for some contacts (the ones I wanted to be shown). I definitely agree with you that MIUI is a mess... My last phone was an OnePlus 6T, now I own a Mi 9T Pro. The hardware is amazing, but the software is a crap compared to the OxygenOS.