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What to do after root?

I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead? Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right? Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.

rambell said:
I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead?
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Freezing first is always the recommended action (to simply see what happens), however uninstalling these two has been properly tested by "the community", and there are no negative consequences. Just do it.
As for TB Pro, it is the only must-have application for rooted users in my view, just buy it, it's an awesome tool.
Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right?
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Yes, but you won't get any more useful space by removing them. They're in the /system partition, which during normal use will never get written to. (Only you, the rooted user, can do that.) Even updates get installed to the /data-partition. The only real difference between freezing and uninstalling is what happens after a wipe (factory reset.) If you have frozen an app, it'll be active after a reset. Uninstall apps you are sure you'll never need, freeze everything else you don't want.
For example, any sane user will install an alternate launcher, like Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, ADW etc. These are so much better than the stock launcher you'll be convinced you'll never use LG Home again, and it'll be tempting to uninstall it. Mistake. The alternate launcher will get installed to /data/app, so if you ever need to reset your phone, it'll get deleted. When the phone boots next, it won't have ANY launcher installed, and you won't be able to do anything.
Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
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Impossible to say without knowing what they do. Freeze them and see what happens during a week or two of normal use.
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.
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They're all pretty good. With the latest batches of ROMs you basically have to choose between a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini. There's a broken headlight or a scratch in the paint here and there, but you really can't go wrong. It's all a matter of personal need and taste- try them out and decide which works best for you.

Thanks for the detailed explanation esp on the pros and cons of freezing vs uninstalling. I am gonna try out launcherpro and see how it goes before venturing into the unknown world of roms.

from a greek post I made once translated with google because of boredome
The Root is the android that is the administrator for windows
Reasons for doing root:
Market enabler: see all applications on the market
Titanium Backup: You make backup all applications
startup manager: regulates what runs on the principle on your mobile
adfree: stop the advertisements
droidwall: close the internet on which application you want.
fasterfix: the gps you have set for GREECE consistently fast locking.
pimpmycpu: you over or underclock your mobile for extra performance or economy of battery
systemapp remover: place systems that take away but you are achristes or annoying.
widgetlocker: changing the lockscreen unrestricted
touchkeylights: lowers the Volt led for saving battery power or simply because it bothers light.
gscript: Giving orders linux with a click you want to do things like restart the application see longer eats a lot of space, the possibilities are endless
es file exporer: you can change the system files (dangerous not to try unless you know what you have) to put other icons or other boot animation, or a different shape battery tray bar displays etc.
These are some of the little you can do.

Safe to remove sys-software list.

Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?

kashei said:
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
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If i believe uninstaller for root gives a list
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it's not a problem to get a list.
the question is to get the safe list.

Im going to add a few i know are fine:
Universal search
Launcher
Polaris office
Amazon Offers
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps.
Freeze is a nice way of temporarily removing apps (to first see if everything keeps on working fine), but it is still dangerous because if anything really bad happens preventing a full boot, it would be impossible to run Titanium Backup again and Unfreeze the app.
Any of you had the same idea and tried experimenting a bit?
I would love getting rid of some of the Amazon system apps running in the background...

degiovab said:
I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps...
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Of course yes! Me too a very happy and maybe happier a bit user of Ultimate backup (Titanium played some dirty with market links).
And i've tried to freeze safe way.
But some apps like:
- Amazon device client platform,
- Amazon Web runtime
- DRM protected content storage... (I don't use any of amazon services)
I really afraid to experiment untill nandroid will be released for KFHD. That's why was the question.

Thanks. I followed you straight away.
I'm wondering now about:
- Amazon MP3
- Amazon Platform
- Amazon Video
- Audible
- Content Management Service
- IVONA TTS
These are all processes appearing as active (I use System Panel Lite) after a boot.
Anybody knows what these processes are about and if there is anything that can be safely frozen?

I would not mess with many of the Amazon applications at this moment in time.. But there are still some things that can be removed without hiccups.

what is the night android version?

[Q] Apps from Old to New Phone

Hello Experts...going to upgrade my current Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus 6. Is there an easy way to get all my apps from my current phone onto my new one? I have some that are side loaded and just want to be able to port over what I have to the new phone. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Try Helium from Play. It backups apps and data.
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when setting up the n6, itll give you an option to port over your apps from your previous phone. problem is, those side loaded apps wont appear. but you cam jyst send yourself those apps or use an app like titanium backup to back them up/restore them.

TitaniumBackup works great. I have used it for years to port apps & app data from phone to phone to phone. Try it & you won't regret it.

Titanium backup is my go to, only thing is you need to be rooted..

TiBU
but DO NOT restore system files,
what I did getting my N5 data ready to port to new device (2 days ago) backup everything TiBU will backup, copy all files to new device (or the temp N7 device in my case) and restore only regular play store apps, and its safe (only if the relatively the same base OS version) "accounts."
the best order is restore "app only" things that you are unable to get from the play store, the selectively restore the data to those apps you know would be a pain in the ass to set up (email clients, security DVR clients, Tapatalk...) but if its a red system file, avoid it, even for files like gmail.
the biggest problem TiBU causes people is flashing a new ROM then restoring everything they backed up, at that point you just unflashed the rom and run the risk of pushing bad incompatible core files on the new build...
in short (as I'll explain in my case) my N5 files have been copied to my N7 and restored what I stated above, while I wait for my N6 to be sent to be some day soon hopefully, where I will repeat the same process... all devices are on LP5.1.x and have had no issues... by importing the green accounts data, I'm not needing to re enter the 7 email accounts I want gmail to sync.
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I restore some gapps with Tibu and haven't had any issues..

ryanallaire said:
I restore some gapps with Tibu and haven't had any issues..
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I've never had the need to restore from an app, not flaming them, just not my preference. I let the OS do it and for sideloaded apps, I typically have kept a copy on my PC, so I just batch re-upload to the phone using wifi file explorer pro, and install what I want.
In fact, to be it's great because when doing a major change I can take an audit of what I really have used, and not to decide what to load, etc. (and you can choose as well when porting over, etc.)

Rooted, now what?

I got a new wifi S2, installed the permissive kernel and rooted it. I installed TWRP and made a backup. Now I've got an uninstall app and I've removed a few things; primarily Knox and the security logger so that it quits whining at me. I have a strong desire to never ever use the cloud, create a Samsung account, or a Google account. I really just want to load some books onto it and DLNA some music and videos.
So I want to get rid of all the stuff that I'll never be able to use but it's not clear to me how to identify all that. I'm a long time Unix guy but not at all an android guy. If something prompts me to create an account I know I want to uninstall it, but damned if I can figure out how to identify what to uninstall from what icon I touched.
I've found bloatware lists but they're all somewhat old and not for the S2, so it's not clear to me if I should trust them. I'd like to avoid trial and error "uninstall and reinstall if something doesn't work" or the even more dreaded "uninstall and find out six months later that something doesn't work". Can anyone point me at a good list of what I can remove, or where I can figure out how to determine that for myself? Thanks.

Better start freezen apps instead of uninstalling them. I use titanium backup for that, but you can use whatever you like. Just be carefull freezing or uninstalling OS related apps, you can end in a bootloop, but you always have the odin flash method to reflash your system back to normal. Just don't play around with partitions or /dev .
Right now I using my tablet unrooted and untouched, so I can't be more specific which apps you can freeze without problems.

He doesn't need odin as he has a twrp backup.
I take it you are using System App Remover (root) to uninstall system apps? If so you are pretty safe as they are backed up and can be restored any time if something goes wrong.
Also are you aware without a Google account you will lose part of the functionality of an Android device?
Samsungs account you can do without. All that stuff related to it can be deleted, but don't advise removing any of the Google core services from the stock rom.
If you really want a GAPPless rom then you're better off with a non stock custom rom like CM or AOSP.
Not much in that area of development at the moment, but there are a couple of members working on it.

ashyx said:
He doesn't need odin as he has a twrp backup.
I take it you are using System App Remover (root) to uninstall system apps? If so you are pretty safe as they are backed up and can be restored any time if something goes wrong.
Also are you aware without a Google account you will lose part of the functionality of an Android device?
Samsungs account you can do without. All that stuff related to it can be deleted, but don't advise removing any of the Google core services from the stock rom.
If you really want a GAPPless rom then you're better off with a non stock custom rom like CM or AOSP.
Not much in that area of development at the moment, but there are a couple of members working on it.
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Yes, thanks. If I lose functionality to avoid Google watching over my shoulder I'm all for it. I'm old and probably overprotective of what's my business and not theirs. In truth, I bought the S2 because I have a collection of chess book pdf's and djvu's that I want to be able to read while I'm sitting at my chess board. I got the 9.7 inch S2 because the old eyes aren't what they used to be. Anything I can do beyond that is icing on the cake.
I do have the app remover, and I've removed the stuff that was obvious to me (like the Microsoft Office stubs). But there are still lots of things that bring up a prompt for an account when I run them and it's not clear to me how to figure out what app to remove to get rid of that particular thing. On Linux I could use rpm -q to figure out what rpm contained a file I want to remove and I'd be good to go. I've tried googling some of the app names but the "descriptions" I end up finding are particularly unenlightening. And since this is definitely not my area of expertise I don't really want to operate in "let's remove this and see what happens" even if I can reinstall the app from its backup. I've been doing software development and sysadmin for more than 35 years now and that just doesn't seem like the way to approach this.
I was looking at CM, which seems like it might be what I'm looking for, but it's still in alpha and my skill level is probably not up to coping with that so I'm back with the problem of how to decide what to get rid of.

[DISCUSSION] Considering NOT Unlocking/Flashing/Rooting

The entire time I have been an Android Fanboid I have rooted and flashed and customized my androids to my heart's content. But I'm considering not doing so with this device and I submit the reason to the forum for discussion:
This phone appears to me to do exactly what I want, how I want, when I want it. It doesn't appear to have anything I don't want. It doesn't appear to lack anything I do want (except auto night view). Every app I would have on it backs it's data up in the cloud or IS a cloud service. I do not need to change anything so I don't need root. I do not need to backup stock settings (nandroid) if I don't need to flash Roms. If I don't need to flash Roms, I don't need a custom recovery.
The only caveat is I'm waiting on the phone to get here.
I welcome your input
Edit: As of Jan 2017 I have flashed TWRP and rooted. So yeah. I couldn't stay away from it ?

i ended rooting it because i wanted a better sounding headphones on my ear. but i was also considering going back to stock, but not for now. viperArise is the main reason why im staying unlocked for now

I tried that - The ads got to me after a while. They hurt browser performance, are distracting, and consume data. If you can live with ads then you'll be fine.

AdAway, xposed, that's why i'm rooted my device.

scorpion667 said:
I tried that - The ads got to me after a while. They hurt browser performance, are distracting, and consume data. If you can live with ads then you'll be fine.
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I use my phone very little for social media and browsing. Is almost all work for me. I don't think ads are going to get to me.

acmerw said:
AdAway, xposed, that's why i'm rooted my device.
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Xposed. ... Coming off ios for the last 2 years, I had forgotten about xposed.

I'm rooted but I think I'll keep it almost stock when N arrives. I'll just flash adfree hosts once in a while.

I rooted mainly to install two Xposed modules:
- GravityBox [MM] to have center clock, always expanded volume sliders and a couple of other tweaks;
- App Settings to have custom DPI values on some applications (mainly the ones who benefit from displaying more content on the screen, like web browser, XDA Labs, etc. etc.).

I'm back to stock with locked bootloader only advantage for root I had was the ability to use adblock to get rid of annoying ads

Am stock at the moment. Phone runs great.
Dealing with ads may help me to get to rooting but the main reason I'll root is to add bands to the phone.
It's being worked on at the moment so fingers crossed.
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Ad blocking seems to be the major contributor, but I'm not bothered by any now.... on my Android tablet or on my iPhone (getting replaced with op3).
Only place I'm annoyed with them at all is reading articles in Google +. Otherwise I don't really notice them.

Yeap totally after i flash many roms im about to going to lock oem and get rid of this
Cuz flashing roms is pain in the ass
Only problem was dpi but i can satis with it ?
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For ads, why not use Adguard? It does not require root and works very well. Only downside is that it uses VPN for blocking ads, so not suitable for people who want to use their VPN for anonymity or when connected to unsecured Wifi in café for example.
I did not root this device yet as I use Android Pay alot.
Cheers
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NetGuard blocks ads and doesn't require root.
Twilight has a night filter and doesn't require root.

This is my first phone i didn't root or added custom recovery. I like it the way it is. The only things i want to see gone is the stock google apps like: music, books, games,...

Bart3n said:
This is my first phone i didn't root or added custom recovery. I like it the way it is. The only things i want to see gone is the stock google apps like: music, books, games,...
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you can disable them

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you can disable them
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Yeah i know but with root and An system app uninstaller they are gone.' but i don't really mind

Bart3n said:
Yeah i know but with root and An system app uninstaller they are gone.' but i don't really mind
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i would never root simply to remove apps that can be disabled - there's plenty of space on the system partition as well as the phone

2x4 said:
i would never root simply to remove apps that can be disabled - there's plenty of space on the system partition as well as the phone
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With my other phones i did. With this one i didn't. Because the only bloatware is the Google apps.

I'm considering not unlocking it or rooting until CM14.1 nightlies are official. OxygenOS is working really well so far and the battery endurance is really good. The only thing I'm thinking about is AdAway because plenty of website from my country use obnoxious ads (I don't mind and actually support them on a few major websites) and the ability to backup/restore in TWRP.
The thing that is inclining the balance towards rooting is that somehow QuickPic feature of fixing the date on restored videos (from my PC) is not working on OOS. It always worked really well on my OPO with different ROMs. I need this badly because I hate seeing the videos in dates I did not shot them. To be able to modify the dates I need to be rooted, so that could make the decision for me.