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Hello,
I did some research recently, and this caused a little bit of confusion, so I'll post a quick question:
I'm trying to buy this phone on ebay (since I don't have a US CC card), which one should I get, the T-Mobile or AT&T version?
Requirements:
- to unlock it for Europe GSM
- install CyanogenMod
As of now I was going for the T-Mobile, since I've read it's easier to unlock the bootloader, but now I see that the CM is only for AT&T phones? Or am I mistaking?
Thanks!
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Any source confirming this?
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scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
RenSoAbrupt said:
Any source confirming this?
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Yes, me. I bought a T-Mobile Moto X in November and had to choose my carrier. I bought another Moto X last week and there was no carrier selection, I only had to choose between GSM and CDMA. Both times I received an XT1053 with a T-Mobile SIM in it.
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TheSaw said:
Are you sure about this? Cause if you look it up, everyone is saying that the T-Mobile bootloader can be unlocked, and the AT&T can not.
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I have no knowledge of the bootloader situation, only my experience with the purchases as noted above.
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As far as AT&T bootloader goes it is still not unlockable. When it will be? Nobody really knows if Motorola is going to add it to its Unlock program.
scottjb said:
It doesn't matter any more. When you purchase from the Moto web site you ask for the GSM version. There is no more differentiation between the T-Mo and AT&T versions. You'll get the XT1053, the former T-Mo version.
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Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
larry62 said:
Appears they still technically differentiate between the versions, but are upfront about the T-Mobile version working with either carrier.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Yes, it does. Looks as if they changed it again. I didn't get that selection panel when I bought one a week ago. I guess you can still get the XT1058 model for AT&T. However, if I were buying one I'm not sure why I would order the AT&T model over the GSM model based on the description. I would get the XT1053 anyway.
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Maybe they were temporarily sold out of the AT&T model? There is some LTE band on the AT&T model not available on the XT1053, but if I remember that band isn't used currently by AT&T in the USA anyways. People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
larry62 said:
...People might also want all that wonderful added value bloatware software not on the XT1053 and have the inconvenience safety of a locked SIM.
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Hmm...good points. :/ I'll take my chances without the software and lock.
I just ordered a Note 4 from Verizon and it seems to be shipping with a SIM card as well. If I can find someone to trade me a Nexus 6, will I be able to put that SIM in the Nexus 6 (from Play store) and activate it without ever turning the Note 4 on. Hopefully there is someone out there that bites on this trade or I will be stuck with Note 4 and a locked boot loader.
j3oomerang said:
I just ordered a Note 4 from Verizon and it seems to be shipping with a SIM card as well. If I can find someone to trade me a Nexus 6, will I be able to put that SIM in the Nexus 6 (from Play store) and activate it without ever turning the Note 4 on. Hopefully there is someone out there that bites on this trade or I will be stuck with Note 4 and a locked boot loader.
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what size sim card is it? the nexus 6 uses a nano sim card, i believe the note 4 uses a micro sim though.
you are correct, they use different sized cards, thanks
No. I actually returned my new Note 4 for a Moto X today so that I'll have a nano Sim card for when my Nexus 6 arrives next week. The only reason I was able to do this was because I was within my 14 day window.
So if I get a N6 from Google Play or Motorola, I can plop in my nano sim from my M8 and it will work?
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So if I get a N6 from Google Play or Motorola, I can plop in my nano sim from my M8 and it will work?
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Yes it should.
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Hers a video showing it. The only issue that looks annoying is that it takes about 30 seconds for Verizon service to kick in after a reboot.
How To Activate the Google Nexus 6 on Verizon: http://youtu.be/G0Si72-K5CU
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For those of you who have either paid off your phones or bought them outright, how does TMO handle unlocking the phones? Do you lose any features or functionality like wifi calling etc? Been with TMO for about 3 years now and all of my phones have been unlocked( Nexus 4, Nexus 5, One Plus One, Moto X Pure).
I am paying for the phone up front and I just want to make sure that I understand all the factors with unlocking a carrier branded phone.
Thanks
Hugg727 said:
For those of you who have either paid off your phones or bought them outright, how does TMO handle unlocking the phones? Do you lose any features or functionality like wifi calling etc? Been with TMO for about 3 years now and all of my phones have been unlocked( Nexus 4, Nexus 5, One Plus One, Moto X Pure).
I am paying for the phone up front and I just want to make sure that I understand all the factors with unlocking a carrier branded phone.
Thanks
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Doesn't change anything other than allowing you to use a non-tmo SIM card
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arcanexvi said:
Doesn't change anything other than allowing you to use a non-tmo SIM card
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Thanks , that's good to know. Last year I had to buy a pre paid sim for coverage down in St John. It also helps if you sell the phone as well, since it works with CDMA as well.
The minimum requirements for free unlock through T-Mobile is:
1) phone must be 100% payed off
2) T-Mobile account must be active for at least 3 month
Because of the #2 they just lost $900
Who told you 3 months. It's 40 days... $100 if prepaid.
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The guy in the store told me 90 days, then I called by phone and they also said 90 days. But even 40 days is too much.
Their policy is 40 days. If you are already a customer and meet the requirements it's a couple of days. My GS7E took 48 hours. Might as well buy the Verizon version or the AT&T version. You could wait for the unlocked version.
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588 for future reference.
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I've unlocked a phone 24hrs after receiving it. Since I was going away on an international trip.
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mardukeme said:
I've unlocked a phone 24hrs after receiving it. Since I was going away on an international trip.
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how? what phone?
I've got the Note 4 and Note 5 T-Mobile versions and both are unlocked. I've tried Sprint and Straight Talk SIMs cards and they work fine. I bought both my devices on Swappa
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The policy with the Galaxy S7 was 90 days, has to be paid off..... BUT they had a second non-public policy for people going out of the country. After the 14 day return policy, if the phone is paid for outright, then they will permanently unlock the device. They're thinking for the change in this policy, is that if you want to you can "temporarily" unlock the phone via the unlock app, then come back to being locked, just the way they want you to be!
Just a heads up, and my personal experience with T-mobile
You can always pay a server to unlock it. I believe it's $20
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I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
cmdauria said:
I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
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To be truthful, there is most likely no downsides of using a Tmobile Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. You should be good to go! :good:
It won't work unfortunately. I also believed it was as simple as sticking an Activated Sprint SIM in the T-Mo N8, but Sprint has a different system. Another user was having issues with a VZW N8, so I did some research, and even though hardware wise they are all the exact same phone, Sprints system will only accept IMEIs from Sprint N8s and factory unlocked N8s. An IMEI from any other carrier will not activate.
So glad I have T-Mobile.
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cmdauria said:
I have this same question asked in the T-Mobile forum but wasn't sure if that's the right spot.
I have been reading a lot of different things about doing this with no definitive answer. It looks like, as of recently, it should be as simple as popping in the sprint Sim card and it should work but I want to be sure before hand. Are there any downsides at all about using tmobile Note 8 on Sprint?
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It won't work unfortunately. I also believed it was as simple as sticking an Activated Sprint SIM in the T-Mo N8, but Sprint has a different system. Another user was having issues with a VZW N8, so I did some research, and even though hardware wise they are all the exact same phone, Sprints system will only accept IMEIs from Sprint N8s and factory unlocked N8s. An IMEI from any other carrier will not activate.
So glad I have T-Mobile.
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There have been others that successfully activates...it will just show a generic pic and some features may not work...otherwise Sprint's byod would be a bust...some iemi's might not be accepted do to contract issues, or being internationally unlocked instead of SIM unlocked...other issues may be the cause as well..but others with ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile devices have activated on Sprint or other carrier with just a SIM...adding IEMI to Sprint database just ensures working features...although, some have had to use a non-active Sprint IEMI to activate their non-Sprint device...still, less fuss with swapping out to a Sprint or factory unlocked device...good luck
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There have been others that successfully activates...it will just show a generic pic and some features may not work...otherwise Sprint's byod would be a bust...some iemi's might not be accepted do to contract issues, or being internationally unlocked instead of SIM unlocked...other issues may be the cause as well..but others with ATT, Verizon, and T-Mobile devices have activated on Sprint or other carrier with just a SIM...adding IEMI to Sprint database just ensures working features...although, some have had to use a non-active Sprint IEMI to activate their non-Sprint device...still, less fuss with swapping out to a Sprint or factory unlocked device...good luck
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Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
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Sprint's website states that BYOD is only accepting IMEIs from the Special Edition of the Note 8...no carrier restrictions...same as S8 and S8+...that restriction may lift after acceptable number of sales of Sprint devices...(1yr later)...but no help now...
Changing imei as I suggested before does not work for Sprint either...just gsm carriers...at least the paid service....and I do research all the time...and if you get a rep that will do it...they can...they just won't because of proprietary sales restrictions...according to Sprint's internal whitesheets...more reliable than online blogs...I have gotten Sprint to Activate a Verizon S7 edge when they weren't supposed to...you just have to go through hoops....they are picky with newer devices though...power with persuasion....
If anyone is still wondering, if you flash the (all carrier no bloat ware) unlocked version of the Note 8 firmware it will work with Sprint. You just need a compatible Sprint sim card. That sim card model number needed is 416Q, same as Galaxy S8 sim.
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If anyone is still wondering, if you flash the (all carrier no bloat ware) unlocked version of the Note 8 firmware it will work with Sprint. You just need a compatible Sprint sim card. That sim card model number needed is 416Q, same as Galaxy S8 sim.
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Awesome
I did read Reddit , posts were from January I think.,and still no solid answer. The byod website says my TMO Note 8 device is compatible with Sprint. But how does one truly know? I don't want to port out to Sprint then find out that it doesn't work.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Not according to another Sprint user here. He tried everything and it wouldn't work. Do some research, especially on Reddit. Unless it's an unlocked 950U1 or a Sprint Note 8, it will not activate on their network.
I thought the same as you, until I researched it.
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I just had a chat with Sprint online support. They we're able to load my Unlocked Tmo branded Note 8 IMEI to the system. They said it is ready for activation. I will pickup a Sprint Sim card later today or tomorrow and report back.
I can confirm that T-Mobile Note 8 will work on Sprint. When I put the new Sprint Sim in it change the splash page and add Sprint apps. It removed all T-Mobile apps
Do you have access to all the Sprint bands?
Which SIM did you buy and where?
Just ordered my two Sprint Kickstarter Sim cards. Should be here on Tuesday, porting in from T-MOBILE. Will be using them on our TMO Note 8 devices.
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jinftw said:
Do you have access to all the Sprint bands?
Which SIM did you buy and where?
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I think the phone has all bands. I also tried my Verizon Sim card from my work phone and the Note 8 downloaded all of the Verizon apps and I was able to make calls. It even showed the Verizon splash screen when I turned it on.
Here is a pic of the Sim card packaging. I got it from my local Sprint store.
All works fine. Or so it seems. Connected to band 41 I think currently. Amazing how the Note 8 reconfigure itself.
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Limeybastard said:
All works fine. Or so it seems. Connected to band 41 I think currently. Amazing how the Note 8 reconfigure itself.
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So far I haven't had any issues. How is it going for you?
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So far I haven't had any issues. How is it going for you?
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Not bad, not as fast as TMO but then again not as expensive. $15 is $15 , right?
Sometimes, my browsing slows right down. Even on hand 41. Loading pages like BBC etc, it stalls.
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Limeybastard said:
Not bad, not as fast as TMO but then again not as expensive. $15 is $15 , right?
Sometimes, my browsing slows right down. Even on hand 41. Loading pages like BBC etc, it stalls.
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I must agree with you. The network is a lot slower than T-Mo. I have a Sprint branded G7 I got from Swappa and it performs the same as T-MO Note 8 I ported over. For $15 per month I can't complain either.
Indeed, we get what we pay for. I'd however never spend $60 plus on Sprint unlimited plan if it were like this.
Moral of story, Sprint ain't worth more than $20 per month.
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I must agree with you. The network is a lot slower than T-Mo. I have a Sprint branded G7 I got from Swappa and it performs the same as T-MO Note 8 I ported over. For $15 per month I can't complain either.
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I have a T-Mobile Note 8 on boost. I just had to buy a new sim from Boost!
Made my first call with the missus, and I noticed that the call quality was awful. It's hard to get used to again after using my Pixel 2 XL and enjoying the call quality with HD voice that came with it.
I checked settings, and I can't seem to find anything that would turn on HD voice with AT&T. Also, I bought this device unlocked from Sammy.
Any pointers?
It's due to not running carrier firmware. You can't use WiFi calling (AKA HD voice) without it. Same with VoLTE Anand I believe video calls.
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jjimenezjj said:
Made my first call with the missus, and I noticed that the call quality was awful. It's hard to get used to again after using my Pixel 2 XL and enjoying the call quality with HD voice that came with it.
I checked settings, and I can't seem to find anything that would turn on HD voice with AT&T. Also, I bought this device unlocked from Sammy.
Any pointers?
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If you must have HD voice, return the unlocked Note and order the AT&T version. You will also get Wi-Fi calling if you buy the AT&T phone.
I've the same situation whit my previous note 8, been past many hours finding a way, and finally found it. You can change the CSC for your carrier, whit the *#243203855#. You must do the two install given when you click install. The phone will be factory restore and then, you'll have AT&T firmware and can use the VOLTE and VoWifi, if AT&T support it on the Note 9, and you have the Volte option provisionned in your account. For me, this has worked very well.
Hmm. I wonder why my Pixel 2 XL had HD Voice and I bought that unlocked.
Will this block tethering?
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I've the same situation whit my previous note 8, been past many hours finding a way, and finally found it. You can change the CSC for your carrier, whit the *#243203855#. You must do the two install given when you click install. The phone will be factory restore and then, you'll have AT&T firmware and can use the VOLTE and VoWifi, if AT&T support it on the Note 9, and you have the Volte option provisionned in your account. For me, this has worked very well.
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Do you know if this wil affect the use of tethering? We are currently under at&t's unlimited plan which doesn't include tethering and got the unlocked variant so we could use it for free.
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Will this block tethering?
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Do you know if this wil affect the use of tethering? We are currently under at&t's unlimited plan which doesn't include tethering and got the unlocked variant so we could use it for free.
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For me, i can use thetering without any issues.
You could also flash the AT&T firmware with modded or patched ODIN to achieve the same result with the dialer code.
i currently have an unlocked usa version note 9 on ATT.
call quality sucks
even reception is not as strong as with a ATT branded phone (galaxy s8, iphone7, iphone 6plus).
is att stock firmware even available for download?
nycalex said:
i currently have an unlocked usa version note 9 on ATT.
call quality sucks
even reception is not as strong as with a ATT branded phone (galaxy s8, iphone7, iphone 6plus).
is att stock firmware even available for download?
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https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/SM-N960U/ATT/download/N960USQU1ARG6/231675/