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Using an extended battery

Hi
Got an extended battery for my G1 a few days ago from ebay.
The problem is, the phone doesn't recognized it after I switched the battery. I had the same charging % as the previuos battery right after I changed it (even though I never charged it) and the max use time in Battery time lite is the same....
Any ideas ?
Thanks,
Nati

bad phone ? my ext batterys work fine from ebay

is there any way I can be sure ?
Maybe it a firmware thing ?

natim9 said:
Hi
Got an extended battery for my G1 a few days ago from ebay.
The problem is, the phone doesn't recognized it after I switched the battery. I had the same charging % as the previuos battery right after I changed it (even though I never charged it) and the max use time in Battery time lite is the same....
Any ideas ?
Thanks,
Nati
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I had similar issues when I first got an extended battery (Seidio 2600mA). After performing the steps below, I had no problems at all. I hope it works for you.
Try a COMPLETE drain and recharge cycle, a couple times.
Run the battery down until the phone shuts itself off, restart the phone and let it run until it shuts itself off again. Repeat until it will NOT boot anymore. This will take a surprisingly longer time than you think. Load up your music player, youtube via 3G, etc... kill that thing.
Once the batter is so dead that it can't even load the splash screen for a boot charge it up, but do not turn it on. Let it charge up to full for a few hours (usually four will do it) and turn it on. If it's not at 100% yet, let it charge for a while longer. When it's at 100% take it off the charger and run it down again like before. Run it until it is totally dead.
After a couple cycles like this, you shouldn't have any problem with your phone and battery giving accurate charge status results and operating as it should.
I've read, from a few sources, that between the internal monitoring on the battery works, and the way the G1 reads the battery state, that this complete drain and recharge cycling helps to establish baselines for "empty" and "full" and keep them synchronized. If your phone has never seen an extended battery and the battery was at partial charge when inserted, it may not have been able to accurately gauge the minimum and maximum extents and give faulty readings based on prior battery data.
That could be wrong, and I don't know for sure. But, a complete drain and recharge never hurts anyway, and in my case it actually seemed to solve the problem for me.
Good luck!
-Mark

[Q] Unreliable Battery!

Hi
I have noticed when I soft reset my phone the battery drops anywere from 5% up to about 70%! It varies from rom to rom. If i plug it in and softreset it a couple of times the battery goes up to around what it use to be. If it makes a difference I flash roms alot and don't usually install to many applications.
Is this normal at all or is my battery faulty? It's only about 8 months old.
Any ideas? Tips I could try?
Thanks
Imran

you know, i have the same problem when installing, touch x legendary rom, battery is about 96,96% but when i install that rom, battery drops down to 8,7%, i just plug in power for second, and battery jumps to 98%, and then all working fine...

The way phones and other devices display their state of charge (%) isn't always accurate, hence why it jumps back up 5% after plugging it in. I don't think your battery is unreliable, it's just reporting the wrong percent of charge...

I see. Mine is more like 50% so I guess mine is just really wrong! any ideas for fixing this?
Also i have the typical xperia x1 problem were it thinks the headphones are plugged in for the last 4 days. I have plugging and unplugging the headphones in heaps but it doesn't seem to work
Thanks

I have the same problem.
Phone has one year and 8 months.
Wine phone or battery?

I just got exact problem this morning
I agree with comment above, I think it just battery indicator not accurately represented battery state.
I also noticed the problem happened when I get my phone idle for a while

I was just going to start a new thread about this kind of thing. My phone's original battery has run out at anywhere between 0 and 30%... it tends to go for a couple of days if I don't use the phone much. I've tried recalibration and it doesn't really help. I thought that was bad, but I just bought a backup battery and it's even worse... yesterday it went from 100 to 50% over half a day on standby, then I used it for about ten minutes and it just went off! At 50%!
I was only expecting rubbish life from the cheap battery but at least report the charge properly so I have a chance! Old phones could always do it... why can't one that cost hundreds of pounds when it was new?
I take it there's nothing you can really do?

[Q] CM (and others?) battery meter complete screw-up

My battery never charges above ~76% when plugged in. After rebooting however, it is very much at 100% and lasts for a good amount of time. This is not necessarily a question, but I wonder if others are experiencing this too and if there is a fix? Read below.
I noticed that my battery life got very bad after installing custom roms. I also found out that this happened because I sometimes kept the phone plugged in while flashing, something that totally screws up the battery reading. So, I followed this guide to calibrate my battery and it worked.
Now, whenever the phone is plugged in it NEVER goes to 100% when charging. Maybe 80% if leaving it for a while (10 hours overnight). I'm worried about frying the battery. Is there a fix?

It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend

Thanks, I'll give it a try.
What I'm concerned about is if the phone "thinks" the battery isn't recharged and keeps squeezing juice into it when in fact it is full (which a reboot will show)? That's not good for the battery. It should go into trickle charge after reaching 100%..

The process described in the desire forum is also known as formatting the battery. In fact most of battery manufacturers (lithium battery manufacturers) recommend doing this in a slightly different way:
Before first use:
1.) Before powering the device on, plug it in and let it charge until the LED is green (fully charged)
2.) Then take the battery out of the device and wait an hour (to make sure all the chemical processes in the battery are as idle as possible)
3.) Then plug it back in, while still off and let it charge untill green LED
4.) use the device....
You can practice this slightly modified with first step being:
Discharge the battery (by normal use)until only few percent are left (1 - 5 % are OK)
I've done these steps with my Mugen extended battery and I was getting around 4 - 5 days on Legend, now I'm getting 2 - 3 days on Desire S, but the ROM isn't very optimized yet, I believe it will be better in time...

Just one thing... Why is this in Development!?

No Idea.....
can mods move this?

BlaY0 said:
It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
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sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....

peddalion said:
sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
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Definitely did not solve it but at least the battery performance is ok. It just stays at 78% for a few hours drops from there. Very weird but as long as the battery doesn't get broken I guess it's ok.

Do you have some 3rd party battery installed in your Legend? I have one 1,5 Ah in mine and it is acting the same way. It doesn't bother me too much coz it was cheap... it lasts 48 hrs with data always on and moderate usage. I noticed this that when I charge it overnight and it reaches 80%, unplugging it stays at 80% for several hrs and just after it starts dropping if I plug it again, meter reaches 100%. It's weird but as I said I can live with that

I've got exactly the same issue with stock 2.2 ROM. I've never rooted or CM my phone; I was wondering if CM would do it, but doesn't look like it.
android forums /htc-legend/265545-battery-doesnt-fully-charge.html
(sorry, I can't post links; maybe an admin can fix the link for me?
This seems to indicate it's a phone hardware fault and requires a new Legend to fix! My big worry is, as stated, that the charging light never goes green; therefore is pumping lots of power into a potentially full battery.

[Q] Battery problem, drops to 0% randomly

I'm aware that this problem has happened to others, and I have seen solutions for this problem, but every fix I've come across works temporarily...and by that I mean a day or two.
While using my Atrix HD, when the battery reaches between 20-35%, the battery will suddenly drop to 0% and shut down. This usually occurs when I am using an app, such as MixZing or the camera app. Any attempts to turn the phone back on cause it to shut off again as soon as the boot animation finishes. The only way to keep it on is to plug it into a charger, and when it does boot, the battery shows the same percentage it had when the phone conked out on me. I've even tried calibrating the battery using NèMa's Battery Calibration app, and the problem still occurs...mainly because I can't get the battery to drain completely so I can properly calibrate the battery.
Long story short, I need a fix, or at least a suggestion as to how I can keep this problem at bay. Does anyone have information regarding this problem?

did you ever wipe the battery data when you flashing a new rom ?
I think you need to re-reconigz the battery .

lounew said:
did you ever wipe the battery data when you flashing a new rom ?
I think you need to re-reconigz the battery .
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Agree. In cwm there is an option to wipe battery stats.
I had a similar problem with my HTC First where at 25 % it would go straight to 10 an then to 0 in like 30 seconds...although that was on stock rom...

Do you have the m40 battery mod from maxx?

Just curious
TecknoFreak said:
Do you have the m40 battery mod from maxx?
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Just curious (I am new here, hi :3)
What is the m40 battery mod?

Sorry i ment eb40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906371

TecknoFreak said:
Sorry i ment eb40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906371
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I don't use the eb40 mod, it's all stock hardware. Haven't tried wiping the battery stats, though; can't believe I overlooked that. I'll give it a shot and see if it does the trick.
EDIT: CWM doesn't seem to have an option for wiping battery stats for this phone; I've tried three versions and none of them give me that option.

MysticRhythms87 said:
I don't use the eb40 mod, it's all stock hardware. Haven't tried wiping the battery stats, though; can't believe I overlooked that. I'll give it a shot and see if it does the trick.
EDIT: CWM doesn't seem to have an option for wiping battery stats for this phone; I've tried three versions and none of them give me that option.
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I suggest you first write down the current battery volume , for example , now in the system ,you can see 60% battery left .
then you shut down the phone , connect your changer , the phone will change and the battery volume show . if this volume is not equal to the No. you see in the system , it means that your system have a wrong battery data record .

lounew said:
I suggest you first write down the current battery volume , for example , now in the system ,you can see 60% battery left .
then you shut down the phone , connect your changer , the phone will change and the battery volume show . if this volume is not equal to the No. you see in the system , it means that your system have a wrong battery data record .
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Shut down my phone, battery was at 91% (had charged it overnight). Plugged it in and the charging screen showed 90%. Is that what you were talking about, with the two battery volumes not being the same?

I think it's fixed!
I did a full system reset (including formatting the system, which I apparently had yet to do throughout all this time) to install a new ROM. Today the battery drained all the way down to 2% while I was browsing the web (something that normally would shut off the phone at around 30%) before shutting off. It seems that by skipping that crucial step, the system could not properly read/calibrate the battery when installing a new ROM, which may have caused this problem.
I think it's safe to say it's fixed. For now, at least, but I'm remaining optimistic. Thanks to everyone who pitched in with an idea or just said a few words; great to know people care around here.

MysticRhythms87 said:
I did a full system reset (including formatting the system, which I apparently had yet to do throughout all this time) to install a new ROM. Today the battery drained all the way down to 2% while I was browsing the web (something that normally would shut off the phone at around 30%) before shutting off. It seems that by skipping that crucial step, the system could not properly read/calibrate the battery when installing a new ROM, which may have caused this problem.
I think it's safe to say it's fixed. For now, at least, but I'm remaining optimistic. Thanks to everyone who pitched in with an idea or just said a few words; great to know people care around here.
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I'm glad that you fixed it. I did the same but I still have that problem. When It's 20% it drops to 15% and then to 5% in 30 seconds.

Arjomer said:
I'm glad that you fixed it. I did the same but I still have that problem. When It's 20% it drops to 15% and then to 5% in 30 seconds.
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Thankfully, I haven't had it drop that low that fast. Of course, this IS the Atrix HD, which carries such a weak battery compared to other phones in its class. Nevertheless, I feel great knowing that my phone doesn't shut off so unexpectedly. If it happens again, I'll do my best to deal with it, but for now...it's just success.

I had this problem after i force rebooted my phone, it got stuck at 1% when charging for almost 15mins. I had to turn the phone off.

MysticRhythms87 said:
Shut down my phone, battery was at 91% (had charged it overnight). Plugged it in and the charging screen showed 90%. Is that what you were talking about, with the two battery volumes not being the same?
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for my understanding ,before you shut down the phont , you saw the batter volumes in system is 91% , and then you shut down the phont ,plug it in , and see the battery volume is 90% .I think in this situlation , the battery record in your system is correct ,cause 90% and 91% almost the same . I think your battery is dying , you should replace your battery

lounew said:
for my understanding ,before you shut down the phont , you saw the batter volumes in system is 91% , and then you shut down the phont ,plug it in , and see the battery volume is 90% .I think in this situlation , the battery record in your system is correct ,cause 90% and 91% almost the same . I think your battery is dying , you should replace your battery
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Well, a couple weeks later and I'm still not having the problem. The battery does still drain relatively fast (I go from 100% at about 9:00 A.M. to 35% at 3:00 P.M, with minimal usage such as checking Facebook/Twitter and stuff like that), but that's mostly due to the small battery capacity. The battery health is still good according to the scans and hardware checks I've done. I may, however, look into trying the EB40 mod if it means the battery will last much longer.

MysticRhythms87 said:
Well, a couple weeks later and I'm still not having the problem. The battery does still drain relatively fast (I go from 100% at about 9:00 A.M. to 35% at 3:00 P.M, with minimal usage such as checking Facebook/Twitter and stuff like that), but that's mostly due to the small battery capacity. The battery health is still good according to the scans and hardware checks I've done. I may, however, look into trying the EB40 mod if it means the battery will last much longer.
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did you ever try to flash a new rom , you can try , if the problem still there , there is no doubt that the battery is bad .

Huge problems with my galaxy s3 in the past few days.

Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!

Ilie Mihai said:
Hello everyone!
This is my second post here...but I really felt like I had to take attitude this time and actually do something.
So my samsung galaxy s3 is acting so weird that I can't use it without something bad happening for one day.
So...first of all...my battery doesn't last more than four hours straight if, for example, I am listening to music.
It literally goes down about 1% every few minutes.
Also..there is something really weird happening with my battery even after it completely shuts down. Lets's say I am on 1% and the phone shuts off. After the screen goes black and I plug it in...the charging screen appears and the battery seems to be half charged. I open the phone again and it is already at 45%. All this operation takes a matter of seconds...but still it goes from 1% to 45%. After the phone is up...this percentage starts to go down even faster than before...in the end my phone shuts down again...and this time it starts to charge from 0%.
Today it shut off...and when I got home and plugged in the charger it didn't do anything...i just left it like that for about 10 minutes then tried to power it on without the charger being plugged in...and it worked. After that it started to charge. I have no ideea what is happening.
Also...my charging time is really big. I do not know why but when I use another charger from a samsung galaxy mini 2 it seems to charge way faster.
That's pretty much all so far. If you need more details, please let me know.
I hope you can help me sort this out!
Best regards!
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1.Might be the battery is dead or broken, or its not calibrated. How old is the phone and battery?
2. It seems to take ages to charge my s3 lte too, give us a number in hours how much time you need?
3. The problem where phone wont turn on or show charging when battery is as low as 1%, i had this too, i think its normal, its protecting the battery
4. Do you have overcloacked anything? It happend to me when i had ovecloaced and did benchamark test, the phone froze and battery eas 5% when i restarted the phone, but before it was 45.
Not realy helpful but i am trying XD. Also might wanna buy new battery, its not that expesive

if you are running stock rom with no rooting no anything....100% it's the battery.
if not install stock and see how it goes...if it's acting normal then the mods are the problem...if it's the same it's the battery.

Do a factory data reset on stock recovery. See how that works out first

Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.

paffo said:
Starting from factory reset is bad idea - it should be the last step IMHO.
First what in such case we need to check is battery health.
Percentage we see on our phone is weak indicator, because it is calculated
Better to see the voltage in different situations. How to check this (terminal app or adb in console):
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
The lowest voltage that device can handle without heavy usage is less than 3500mV (I saw even 3240mV, but with low brightness, no data connection and after trying to make a call phone turned off).
The maximum voltage is obout 4300mV.
When You see 1% of battery and voltage is realy close to 3500mV or battery is charged and voltage after removing charge is dropping realy fast to then your battery very likely need to be replaced.
I bought Samsung Extended Battery (3000mAh) and this tripled the time usage than my 2 years old normal battery 2100mAh. You can see that difference in their capacity is much smaller - about 43% biger, but give me 300% much time on battery so old one was realy worn out.
BUT if your battery wasnt used for longer than half year, you can do as follows:
1. Discharge battery
2. When phone turns off - turn it on again, but into download mode (Home-VolumeDown-Power)
3. Leave phone for as long as it turns off again and repeat step 2 till time that Download Mode wont even boot.
4. Take off battery and place it back, and again try point 2 (start Download Mode) - do it until phone will show Download Mode for only 2-3 secconds
5. Again and last time replace battery and charge phone, but turned off
6. When phone will be charged, turn it on and leave it on charger for about one hour
After those steps use your phone lightly and try to repeat whole process one more time but only when the battery will normaly discharge and phone will turn off.
I tried those steps and battery for sure can work longer FOR ONE RUN, but unfortunately it can lead to loss of capacity much faster, but it will be noticable after one year - IMHO its always good time to buy new battery.
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Nothing good will come from that procedure. Those steps were useful in the epoch of nickel-cadmium batteries, where the battery had no internal circuits to monitor itself and had a tendecy to uncalibrate. Those stops would force the device and the battery to re-adapt to one another.
But now we're using Li-Ion batteries, and those DO NOT like to be fully discharged. Hell, the device might not even recognize the battery, if it has really been fully discharged.
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Okay...so I went to the shop from where I bought my s3 (Orange shop) And they told me to send it to their service and I did so...as I still had it under warranty. It was there for exactly a week and today I got it back. They told me they replaced the battery (which they actually did...I checked that) and the power connector from my phone. The battery it's still not good enaugh in my opinion. Immediately after I got it back...I turned it on and it had 79% battery. In about an hour it went down about 25% (so to 54%) but I didn't used it havely (note: the mobile data option was on). I really do not know what to do. I asked someone and they told me to send it again because this is not normal.
My s3 is running stock 4.3 and used to last waay longer back in the day.
What should I do? I literally got about max 5 hours of use before I sent it and I am afraid this will happen again. I do not even want to think what is going to happen if I listen to music for example.
I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!

Ilie Mihai said:
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I turned the phone off a few hours ago...then let it charge up to 59% and then stopped because I had to leave. I used it moderately for about 4 hours and 51 minutes (as my phone says) and i have about 2h and 15minutes of screen on time. My screen is using 50% of the battery and also Android system is using about 17%...chrome 12% Android OS 7% and I think everything else is less important as they use 7%<. After those almost 5 hours...while the mobile data option was on all the time I am at 14% battery.
What do you think? Is it good enaugh? Should I send it back? I really need help!
I am waiting for suggestions.
Best regards!
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I think so, the fact that you have the screen on top of Android OS (and not the other way around) pleases me. You had your screen on for 2h15m, of course your battery went down fast
Test it, charge it full, and use it. Normally.
Do this for 2 or 3 days, and check how the battery lasts