So... teardown videos on YouTube fooled me and I thought that this phone is water-resistant. I washed it under tap water (multiple times, actually). After the last time, the screen stopped working, but the phone appears to be OK — even the touch clearly works. I've already disassembled the phone and cleaned the connectors with 95% alcohol, but the screen still doesn't work. Is buying a replacement screen and hoping for a cheap repair the smartest thing to do? After all, the motherboard can also be borked.
EDIT: the screen is completely black
BlueOner said:
So... teardown videos on YouTube fooled me and I thought that this phone is water-resistant. I washed it under tap water (multiple times, actually). After the last time, the screen stopped working, but the phone appears to be OK — even the touch clearly works. I've already disassembled the phone and cleaned the connectors with 95% alcohol, but the screen still doesn't work. Is buying a replacement screen and hoping for a cheap repair the smartest thing to do? After all, the motherboard can also be borked.
EDIT: the screen is completely black
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I've replaced the screen after dropping the phone. Was only a small chip in the bottom corner, didn't look much at all, but the screen was completely dead. I was in a similar dilemma of wanting to be sure it was only the screen before spending about $100 on a screen. I booted into fastboot, then connected to a PC, then done the fastboot devices command, which returned a valid ID, so I knew the phone wasn't completely dead. Also connecting to the PC and booting the phone, the PC recognised the phone was connected, though without being able to unlock the phone I couldn't check anything else. That was enough for me to go ahead and order the screen. Now everything works fine.
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I've replaced the screen after dropping the phone. Was only a small chip in the bottom corner, didn't look much at all, but the screen was completely dead. I was in a similar dilemma of wanting to be sure it was only the screen before spending about $100 on a screen. I booted into fastboot, then connected to a PC, then done the fastboot devices command, which returned a valid ID, so I knew the phone wasn't completely dead. Also connecting to the PC and booting the phone, the PC recognised the phone was connected, though without being able to unlock the phone I couldn't check anything else. That was enough for me to go ahead and order the screen. Now everything works fine.
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Thanks for sharing your experience! In my case, the phone clearly isn't dead, but I wonder whether some circuitry on the motherboard that's responsible for making the display work might be fried. Well... if that's the case, I can always sell the replacement screen after testing, but I'm not sure that someone will buy it for a good price.
Also... where did you get your screen from? On AliExpress, they are as cheap as $50, but most of the cheap ones are clearly some fake crap — TFT/IPS LCD, smaller than the original, fingerprint scanner not working... I guess I need to buy something more expensive. Have you noticed any difference between the original screen and your replacement?
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Thanks for sharing your experience! In my case, the phone clearly isn't dead, but I wonder whether some circuitry on the motherboard that's responsible for making the display work might be fried. Well... if that's the case, I can always sell the replacement screen after testing, but I'm not sure that someone will buy it for a good price.
Also... where did you get your screen from? On AliExpress, they are as cheap as $50, but most of the cheap ones are clearly some fake crap — TFT/IPS LCD, smaller than the original, fingerprint scanner not working... I guess I need to buy something more expensive. Have you noticed any difference between the original screen and your replacement?
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It was 4 months ago I got mine from AliExpress, at that time there wasn't any of these cheaper ones for sale. Looking at these cheaper ones they are TFT, though it's not always obvious in the description.
One seller is selling both TFT and OLED and are clearly labelled in the options. So from this assume that all cheaper ones are TFT.
It is a bit of a minefield. I doubt that any of the sellers have the actual original genuine screens. It took me a couple of days to go through all the listings and determine which one would most likely be good quality.
I eventually went for this one, which was slightly more expensive than most. Now though it appears to have gone up about $15 from when I bought it.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_d7OqLlE
At that time it had the best reviews, which appeared genuine. There were others with a higher review count, which appeared to be just as well reviewed, but reading the reviews you realise they are fake. Many reviews, supposedly from the USA, written in very poor pigeon English.
Also saw some stores with high review count, but then realised that most reviews are for completely different products (a common trick by some Ali sellers, completely change an existing listing so a new product looks like it's got high reviews)
The screen is good quality. It took about 3 weeks to arrive, but it was about 2 weeks after I damaged it before I ordered. So it was around 5 weeks after I last used the phone before installing it. After that time it's hard to judge if it is as good as the original. To look at and use the phone you wouldn't think it was a non original replacement, to me it seems to be as good as the original, without doing a side by side comparison. As far as an oleophobic coating, I couldn't say, it's had a screen protector since installing.
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I washed it under tap water (multiple times, actually)
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Umm. What? Even with IP rated phones you don't wash it with water. IP rating generally means that its good for accidental drops into water or for use in light rain. Why on earth would you wash it? Yes, I know jerryrig says there's some water ingress protection but it doesn't mean you should wash it with water. It just means you're good for use in light rain at best.
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Umm. What? Even with IP rated phones you don't wash it with water. IP rating generally means that its good for accidental drops into water or for use in light rain. Why on earth would you wash it? Yes, I know jerryrig says there's some water ingress protection but it doesn't mean you should wash it with water. It just means you're good for use in light rain at best.
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Yes, I know. Very stupid. At least y'all can learn from it and avoid making the same mistake.
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The screen is good quality.
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That's reassuring!
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it's hard to judge if it is as good as the original. To look at and use the phone you wouldn't think it was a non original replacement, to me it seems to be as good as the original, without doing a side by side comparison.
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Well, I guess that even if it's a bit worse, replacing the screen is better (in my case) than dealing with an older/cheaper phone or throwing a nice sum of money on a phone in similar price range. I will report my experience after replacing the screen, maybe it will help someone. I'm definitely not going to find another guy with 9T (Pro) because of the coronavirus, but comparison with another high-quality AMOLED phone is another way to check the quality.
So... I wanted to order the screen, but when I checked whether the phone still works... it appeared dead. It charges, is visible in USB devices (but no fastboot etc.), the notification LED blinks, but that's all. It worked perfectly some time after the water damage occured, so I guess that the damage progressed. Yes, I didn't clean the phone thoroughly after disassembling it - I thought that the water probably evaporated anyway after using a heat gun, so, as I mentioned earlier, I cleaned only (easily accessible) connectors. Maybe it is something stupid (power button?), but it seems too good to be true. If I don't post another update, just assume that my phone died.
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So... I wanted to order the screen, but when I checked whether the phone still works... it appeared dead. It charges, is visible in USB devices (but no fastboot etc.), the notification LED blinks, but that's all. It worked perfectly some time after the water damage occured, so I guess that the damage progressed. Yes, I didn't clean the phone thoroughly after disassembling it - I thought that the water probably evaporated anyway after using a heat gun, so, as I mentioned earlier, I cleaned only (easily accessible) connectors. Maybe it is something stupid (power button?), but it seems too good to be true. If I don't post another update, just assume that my phone died.
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My k20 pro Disable screen problem
Hi xda developers
After wetting the phone with a hand sanitizer and using the same wetness of the screen, I played the online game and put it in automatic game mode and rested for a while...
After waking up, I noticed that the phone was turned off, which was turned on by holding down the power button, but the screen is off...
Currently, only vibrators and notification lights work for the phone, and the phone is organized by a computer.
Also, the phone is charged and its sound can be heard while connecting it to the charger, and its sound can be heard in the same way to lock the screen.
Does anyone have an idea?
my phone just take s swim in the river yesterday, now its has no display but still on and even the touchscreen is working (i know is working cuz its register sound when i try to touch it everywhere). it have been dead first but then turn back on with everything work normal. but after about half hour, the screen suddnly dead.
after tear it my self i found where the water coming in, its from the 3.5mm jack. other holes have rubber protection but the jack has nothing. they even put water dammage indicator below the 3.5mm module....
i have try few method like clean the board with isoprofil alcohol but no avail. now im waiting my screeen replacement and will try to fixit my self.
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my phone just take s swim in the river yesterday, now its has no display but still on and even the touchscreen is working (i know is working cuz its register sound when i try to touch it everywhere). it have been dead first but then turn back on with everything work normal. but after about half hour, the screen suddnly dead.
after tear it my self i found where the water coming in, its from the 3.5mm jack. other holes have rubber protection but the jack has nothing. they even put water dammage indicator below the 3.5mm module....
i have try few method like clean the board with isoprofil alcohol but no avail. now im waiting my screeen replacement and will try to fixit my self.
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Hello! Had exactly the same issue. Did it work to replace the screen?
My phone got into the sea (well the sea went into it), nothing happened for a while, and then it suddenly went black. Is working (like i can still use it as alarm lol) but the screen is not. Same as BlueOner, i'm afraid is not the screen itself but something in the mother board, so I would love to know if any of you were able to use it after replacing the screen or i will end up with the same issue.
Thanks!
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Hello! Had exactly the same issue. Did it work to replace the screen?
My phone got into the sea (well the sea went into it), nothing happened for a while, and then it suddenly went black. Is working (like i can still use it as alarm lol) but the screen is not. Same as BlueOner, i'm afraid is not the screen itself but something in the mother board, so I would love to know if any of you were able to use it after replacing the screen or i will end up with the same issue.
Thanks!
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It's toast. Don't even bother. The sea salt is hygroscopic, conductive (with moisture), corrosive and -everywhere- now.
It not a question of if it will fail only when.
Tap water is similar but not near as aggressive. The smallest amount of salt (sweat) can change that if it gets inside too. Even so if the device >didn't have it's battery pulled immediately<, then completely turn apart and cleaned with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol it won't fare much better in the long term most likely.
Any water internally can cause massive damage quickly. Or the signs of damage can take months to fully manifest themselves especially if the battery wasn't quickly pulled.
Salt water is fatal because it's residue doesn't easily rinse off as well as what was stated above.
This is why manufacturer warranties refuse to deal with water damage.
It's the gift that keeps giving...
Occasionally you can get lucky if you act fast
My Buds case fell into my coffee cup and immediately crash dived to the bottom like the sub in Das Boot. Cream and sugar too.
I pulled it apart and rinsed it will RO water then with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol in less then 3 minutes. Got as much as the isopropyl out as possible without compressed air and allowed it to dry in a warm sunny spot. Couldn't disconnect the Li battery as it was soldered or spot welded in. After about 2 days of drying it worked and other a year and a half later still is working.
I am still surprised...
Hi. I got water damage. The screen can be turn on but its not responding at all. I can press the power button, the screen lights up, as normal. I just couldn't unlocked it. It wont accept any touch. Also i tried calling from another phone, sound okay, also led notification working.
I havent try the charging port yet.
Anybody have similar experience? Can someone explain my problem? Should i order new screen replacement? Im just afraid its not screen problem.
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Hi. I got water damage. The screen can be turn on but its not responding at all. I can press the power button, the screen lights up, as normal. I just couldn't unlocked it. It wont accept any touch. Also i tried calling from another phone, sound okay, also led notification working.
I havent try the charging port yet.
Anybody have similar experience? Can someone explain my problem? Should i order new screen replacement? Im just afraid its not screen problem.
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Read my previous post.
You need to dry it out completely.
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This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
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This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
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I dont know but man I hope that there isn't. Have you tried contacting invisishield? Never mind, b/c they'll blame you. Most applicators like that use alcohol to evaporate the remaining moisture that's left. My friend applied it to his, and he used very little liquid(scared), so GOOD LUCK!! I MEAN IT
Tough break, sounds dangerous to pour liquid on the screen though !
On a related matter has anyone seen pics of a Kaiser pulled apart ? Still wondering where the GPS antenna is located !
Yeah, I hope I don't get shafted.
I love the invisibleshield, and I put one on my $1,500 DSLR camera screen, but since the Kaiser screen is recessed a bit, when you squeegee the solution out from under the screen, it cannot be wiped away. It just gets pushed out between the phone's body bezel, and the screen glass -- right in to the phone. With my DSLR camera, the screen is flush with the body, so when squeegee'd I could quickly wipe the water/alcohol away.
Contacting Invisibleshield got me:
Our liability does not extend beyond our product. The lifetime warranty only covers the replacement of the invisibleSHIELD and NOT a warranty for the device the shield is protecting.
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If ATT charges me the $400 if they find out, I guess I'll pay it. It's my fault, but by extension of invisibleshield. Guess I'll learn not to use that product on anything that has a recessed screen. I was thinking of buying an invisible shield for my laptop as well, but it's screen is slightly recessed like the kaiser, so you can forget me doing that!
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Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
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That was why I bought the 'best screen shield on the market' for scratches (invisibleshield). Coincidentally that was the demise of my phone. I also purchased a steel case that basically would let me sit on my phone (uncomfortably) if i wanted. The desire to protect my phone, did the opposite in my case.
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Could be, zcink. The replacement phone is on it's way. I can remove the battery during this time it takes for the replacement to come and see what happens. Unfortunately, I think one of the following has happened:
1) Water seeped between the LCD protetcive glass, and the LCD itself, and somehow soaked in to the LCD causing mini shorts -- thus resulting in kludged text.
2) Water seeped to the phone's connecting cable where the screen input is, dried on the wires, thus creating a short -- destroying the signal.
Either way, when the liquid dry's, the mineral deposits causing the short will still exist, still causing a short. For both, repair requires disassembly, voiding my warranty. I could buy a new replacement screen from the China place for about $100, but if ATT /might/ replace it without screwing me, I'll take the chance. Just wanted to know what my chances /were/ them finding out it's got water in it.
I guess the moral is.
Don't buy from InvisibleShield, unless you use a SPARING amount of spray they they include. They include a huge bottle, and I used 2 sprays worth applied to my shield. This created enough excess to be squeegeed right into my phones body. The phone worked great for a few days, until one day at work, while I was using it -- BAM -- the screen was dead.
There isn't the water dectector there, but I'm pretty sure the technicians would notice the damaged screen.
I know those screen protectors, used them for alot of things. Using one right now actully. Its the one you wash with soap and warm water, and just let it dry, it have a static adhesive to the the scree.
I see. yeah hopefully the ATT tech will be lazy and just grant you the warranty without investigating. just play dumb. If they charge you the $400 call them up and threaten to switch to T-Mobile.
My phone died and T-Mobile was going to do nothing until I threatened to switch to ATT, then they replaced it.
I seriously doubt that they will be able to tell unless you really soaked it, next time use a dry screen protector, they work just fine, no bubbles. The only moisture sensor is on the battery, and if it was a tiny amount of moisture, there's likely no signs in the screen assembly. AT&T isn't likely going to dissect the screen to check.
Kaiser disassembly howto
I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
Hadn't heard of that screen protector before, guess it would work well on an HTC Touch, not sure how the "full body" version works though!
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I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
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Amazing find. Thanks!
It appears to me that the screen itself is it's own modular unit. Meaning, after phone disassembly, you'd have to disassemble the actual screen itself. Further, there is no moisture indicators directly by the assembly it seems.
Knock on wood, but I'd hope a tech wouldn't go that far to determine the fault of the phone. I assume they would if theres telltale signs of water damage to the display (streaking might be a common sign.) But, maybe, just maybe, they won't.
http://www.gpspassion.com/download/HTC_Kaiser_disassembly.pdf
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The only moisture sensor is on the battery
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The service manual shows 4 of them, one under the battery that can be seen from the outside, one at the top and one at the bottom of the mainboard's other side, and.. one on the board that holds the bottom front panel switches, so very close to the LCD.
Personally I wouldn't have asked for a replacement phone, I'd have disassembled the phone and tried to clean it if made dirty by the liquid, bought a spare screen off ebay if it was definitely dead, and if ultimately it didn't work bought another phone off ebay for less than $400. But maybe I like risk
Here, Perfect for what you need, used it myself: http://www.mindsofwisemen.com/fileso/other/ReplacingTheLCDonaKaiser.pdf
Best wishes
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Not sure if the above noted guide is officially and with permission uploaded to that site, but to give credit to members here it is (SKDVR’s Adaption of Tony Chen’s guide)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2247685&postcount=19
i took mine apart to replace the screen; pics and info on what i did and where i got it. didn't see any water indicators near the screen when i did it, didn't think to look...
Keyboard membrane removal.
So, I've had trouble with my keyboard lately and wanted to just clean off the contacts on the membrane...but I can't seem to get the damned thing out of the plastic keyboard Middle Housing.
I have gotten everything apart so the housing is separated. Verified that I did it the way the service manual says...but i saw NOTHING about how to disassemble the keyboard from the housing.
PLZ! Pictures are good.
Try replacing digitizer screen
found that digitizer screen is above lcd and can be purcased for about $10 on ebay
hello guys,
my tytn II cant detect simcard saying the simcard is missing.
Any idea whats wrong???
Hello everybody,
my phone has been dropped into a pool for a couple of minutes, but first it seemed to be all right.
The first problem was, that the phone gone crazy, and every time i've wanted to lock it, it started the camera app. Then a couple of hours later the phone went into safe mode, and the vol down and the power buttons doesn't worked. After that i've dissasembled the phone and wiped the things around with some tissue thingy that was soaked in alcohol. It was some medical thing. Then i've put it back together, and it switched on, but the battery doesn't charge, or not every time, but at least the phone is not in safe mode anymore and the buttons are all working properly, the only thing what isn't working is the wifi. At the moment i'm only struggleing with battery, because most of the time it's not charging it only shows a battery with a question mark in the middle, but the green led is on and the phone is doing this vibration when you turn it on, but it's not booting, the screen stays black. I can reach the fastboot mode and the recovery but not the system. Can anyone help me what might be the problem? Software or hardware?
I hope that i was quite clear.
Cheers
It can really be both SW and HW. Basically it´s HW.
Once you do proper cleaning process too late and not very well, or you don´t do your celaning properly, you are going to have you device dead earlier or later. You have to disassemble the PCB to its primes, take of the shieldings of circuity, and clean it with some alcohol and tootbrush or better ESD protective brush gently but deeply. Then, you need to dry it for 48 hours in 50-60 degrees and then see what happened after assy. Also SW can be damaged, so you can try to flash it (load new ROM). If there is no success, it´s simply dead.
Your phone has oxidized due the water.
Go to Motorola and ask if they'll change your phone. You maybe lucky and get a brand new one.
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Your phone has oxidized due the water.
Go to Motorola and ask if they'll change your phone. You maybe lucky and get a brand new one.
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They only advertise the phone as water resistant I doubt they'll replace it if it was dropped in a pool
Sent from my RAZR I XT890 using XDA premium
Chri$b0b2005 said:
They only advertise the phone as water resistant I doubt they'll replace it if it was dropped in a pool
Sent from my RAZR I XT890 using XDA premium
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This phone is NOT water resistant, only the screen is...
By the way, if any oxidization is found on your phone, warranty won't work.
Do we have some official statement? I saw in few reviews, that they mean (also) internals - whole PCB coating....
Sorry for the late answer...
If a phone is fully waterproof, then it is a strong marketing argument.
Look on the Motorola website, nothing talks about this. On the contrary, the Sony Xperia Z explicitly shows this ability, just look at its advertisement.
The Razr i is only splash proof: you can drop a small amount of liquid on the screen, it won't hurt the phone.
That's the only thing that is true.
Reporting the contrary is dangerous for users, beware of this when you read a review.
I've had a long 24 hours with my N6. Dropped it in the toilet last night, pulled it out immediately but flashlight was on and stays on, even when device is off. Couldn't get any software to turn it off, figured something shorted out somewhere. Found instructions on youtube for how to get it open, figured I would just unplug the camera and be cameraless but at least not have the light on all the time draining battery.
During the process of removing everything i apparently broke the solder that is how the power/vol buttons plug into the mobo, so they stopped working completely. I also learned that flashlight is not controlled by the camera, so removing the camera does nothing. I could not find where the lights plugged in, but I did find just below the lights if I stuck a small slit of a credit card and wedged it between two pieces of plastic, the lights went off. So I did that and buttoned it back up, then downloaded some apps that allowed me to have a functioning phone without the use of the power/vol keys. I thought I was good to go, all things considered.
Later I learn the thing will not charge. Like I plug it in and get the charging icon on the phone, but it doesn't actually charge. When I took the thing apart I did not even touch the charging portion of the phone's internals, so I don't exactly know why it would not be charging at all. I can also place it on a Qi wireless dock and the dock lights blue to show it is receiving the qi signal (charging), but if I look on the phone itself, it doesn't not show the charge sign, so I assume it is not charging. Also in order to get the phone on with no functioning power button, you have to hook it up to the Qi charger and that automatically boots the phone up. That is working as well, but again, it's just not charging.
So somehow the wired and wireless charging mechanisms in the phone are being recognized by the phone, they just aren't actually doing any real charging. I'm about to pull out my hair if I can't figure this out. Please let me know if you have any ideas and I would greatly appreciate it.
Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
Time to bite the bullet and call this one. This Nexus is dead.
Didgeridoohan said:
Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
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I thought this is probably the case too and the water damage slowly is malfunctioning multiple hardware components. The red water indicator is definitely on, but I've heard multiple reports these phones are water resistant, and a rushed toilet baptism didn't seem severe enough to destroy a "water resistant" phone.
Thanks for the help. Any other ideas or thoughts greatly appreciated.
The Nexus 6 isn't water resistant. It's splash resistant, but won't survive being dunked.
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Yeah... I'd wager that the dunking did more to the internals than just make the light turn on. Your attempts at fixing it doesn't seem to have helped either (but cudos for trying).
Maybe you can get a phone with a busted screen on eBay, or something, and use it for parts.
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How much would you think I should spend on a N6 with a cracked screen if I wanted to Frankenstein a working one? What about this one, says a cracked screen that doesn't turn on. I don't know if there is anyway to know if the screen here is broken or something on the mobo though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Ne...472835?hash=item210fd400c3:g:gv0AAOSwGeBXP0kP
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Time to bite the bullet and call this one. This Nexus is dead.
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the other thing i learned today was if i leave it plugged in it does not lose charge and will stay powered on. but it won't add any charge either.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The Nexus 6 isn't water resistant. It's splash resistant, but won't survive being dunked.
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I know, and we don't have to debate the effectiveness of a water soaked N6, but there are Youtube videos showing people dunking their phones for several minute intervals with no ill effects. I would never have tried that, but if SOME of these phones can handle that kind of water abuse, I feel like I have a little bit of bad luck since mine couldn't even take a single quick dip.
But none of those phones are a Nexus 6. Those phones that were dunked in YouTube videos and survived all had a water resistance rating clearly given in their specifications. The Nexus 6 does not have a water resistance rating of any kind. You cannot assume the Nexus 6 could survive a quick trip to the can based upon YouTube videos.
In simple language, if it doesn't say it's water resistant, then it isn't water resistant.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
But none of those phones are a Nexus 6. Those phones that were dunked in YouTube videos and survived all had a water resistance rating clearly given in their specifications. The Nexus 6 does not have a water resistance rating of any kind. You cannot assume the Nexus 6 could survive a quick trip to the can based upon YouTube videos.
In simple language, if it doesn't say it's water resistant, then it isn't water resistant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k
that is definitely an unprotected nexus 6 submerged in water for over an hour. mine went in and was out in 5 seconds.
question on what you guys think i should do at this point:
1. i see NEW lcds going for like $100+ on ebay. should i take mine apart and sell it? not sure what i would get it for it used, but screen is in 100% perfect shape, not a single scratch on it. Maybe i could get $75 for it?
2. sell the whole phone for parts, maybe $50?
3. try and find a cracked screen nexus 6 for ~$50 and attempt to put my lcd in that then have a fully functioning nexus 6. my only issue with that, is that if i screw up the install i've blown an additional $50.
i figure by the time the latest nexus comes out, which is when i would upgrade, the N6 will probably only be worth about $150. it seems reasonable for me to just either sell for parts or sell only the lcd screen and cut my losses and move on, but curious what others might think is the best bet.
Sounds like a plan to me... At some point it's just not worth the hassle anymore.
The problem with selling it for parts is that you don't know to what extent the water has damaged the internals. You'd have to be up front about that, which severely reduces the value of the parts. Number 2 sounds like the most likely option to me...
Didgeridoohan said:
Sounds like a plan to me... At some point it's just not worth the hassle anymore.
The problem with selling it for parts is that you don't know to what extent the water has damaged the internals. You'd have to be up front about that, which severely reduces the value of the parts. Number 2 sounds like the most likely option to me...
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i agree, i would just state water damaged and the specific items not functioning properly.
tuffluck said:
that is definitely an unprotected nexus 6 submerged in water for over an hour. mine went in and was out in 5 seconds.
question on what you guys think i should do at this point.
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Then the person or persons attempting the dunk tests on YouTube are idiots. If it doesn't say it's water resistant, it's not water resistant. Period. End of discussion.
Check the Swappa Boneyard for a cracked screen Nexus 6. Purchase it and replace the screen with yours, once you've verified that the screen has no damage. I'd not recommend Ebay, simply because you have no guarantee that the IMEI of the replacement device hasn't been blacklisted. On Swappa, I believe they have to declare whether or not the IMEI is clear or not.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Then the person or persons attempting the dunk tests on YouTube are idiots. If it doesn't say it's water resistant, it's not water resistant. Period. End of discussion.
Check the Swappa Boneyard for a cracked screen Nexus 6. Purchase it and replace the screen with yours, once you've verified that the screen has no damage. I'd not recommend Ebay, simply because you have no guarantee that the IMEI of the replacement device hasn't been blacklisted. On Swappa, I believe they have to declare whether or not the IMEI is clear or not.
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sold it this evening for about $100, broken and all. i guess since they go for around $200 on ebay used in perfect working order then i can't be too upset. thank you for all of your help.
My Nexus 6 fell and the display broke. Not the screen but the display. The scratch's are inside. My device still works but I can't see anything and the touchscreen doesn't work.
What display/screen replacement should I buy?
I was thinking on buying this one: http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-576031511-pantalla-touch-marco-motorola-nexus-6-_JM
Please check the link and tell me if it's the right thing to buy. Thanks in advance.
A pic of how it looks:
That's the right one.
That replacement has the frame too, if you want to save money and your frame is still in good condition you can just remove the existing frame from the broken screen, no need to worry about hurting the display as it's already broken so just break it loose, in pieces if you have to lol. Then just get one without a frame, just be sure to check the descriptions to be sure they include adhesive tape pre-applied or get a roll of 2mm 3M double-sided adhesive tape for $2 and do it yourself. While your at it you can also use the tape to re-secure your back cover after removing it if it needs any.
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Here is an example of one without a frame:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00X...eywords=nexus+6+replacement+screen&th=1&psc=1
That seller it's a $40 difference in price without the frame. Also note how the speaker grills are attached to the frame, NOT the AMOLED. Keep that in mind when taking off your broken screen from the frame. If you are unsure if you can do it and feel safer just getting it with the frame, take 10 minutes before ordering and just try to seperate the broken AMOLED from the frame, if you succeed and find it by looking at it just how the new AMOLED panel would attach to the old frame then save $40 and get just the panel, it's already broken, might as well give it a shot, if you don't think you can attach the new panel to the frame yourself after removing the broken panel, order the one with the frame. ?
Thanks guys. I've got some more questions.
What process should I follow to replace the screen, should I dissemble everything? Any video tutorial you would recommend?
And, I've noticed that the phone doesn't heat up when I charge it as it did before (I have a Turbocharger), is the device ok? Is it normal that it doesn't heats up?
It's normal to have it not heat up when charging. Mine doesn't.
Jerryrig Everything has a good teardown video you can use.
What seems weird to me is that the phone usually heated up even if i wasn't using it (I guess fast charge) but now it doesn't.
Is there a way to know if it's charging or know the battery level other than looking and the screen? Because I can't see anything.
You should let the battery completely discharge, so the device turns off. That will help to prevent electrical damage to the components when you are disassembling the phone.
Letting the battery drain to zero is bad for the battery, for one. For two, the battery will be one of the first things disconnected, thus there will be no component damage.
Isley_ said:
What seems weird to me is that the phone usually heated up even if i wasn't using it (I guess fast charge) but now it doesn't.
Is there a way to know if it's charging or know the battery level other than looking and the screen? Because I can't see anything.
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Typed up a long response then posted and ticket was expired lol. All I can think of right now is the phone still works, just can't see anything. Let the battery die, call the phone to see if it's dead or rings/vibrates. After it's dead plug her back up and see if she starts, can call again to check if it's in fact booted into Android. Maybe someone else can think of a better way, I take it you don't have the LED enabled for charging so that sucks. Like the previous poster said, it is not advised to let the battery drain 100%, one time however won't hurt, just don't do it repeatably. Hope you successfully get her up and running again I still have my pre-order Nexus 6, never a screen protector, just a Seidio Dilex Pro case and not a scratch on the beauty, someone needs to make a SD 835 phone with dual front facing speakers before I upgrade!
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Typed up a long response then posted and ticket was expired lol. All I can think of right now is the phone still works, just can't see anything. Let the battery die, call the phone to see if it's dead or rings/vibrates. After it's dead plug her back up and see if she starts, can call again to check if it's in fact booted into Android. Maybe someone else can think of a better way, I take it you don't have the LED enabled for charging so that sucks. Like the previous poster said, it is not advised to let the battery drain 100%, one time however won't hurt, just don't do it repeatably. Hope you successfully get her up and running again I still have my pre-order Nexus 6, never a screen protector, just a Seidio Dilex Pro case and not a scratch on the beauty, someone needs to make a SD 835 phone with dual front facing speakers before I upgrade!
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Try iFixIt https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nexus+6+Display+Assembly+Replacement/36090
These fine people are in the town where I live and have very through tutorials. They are also involved in the political battles to allow user repair rights for everything you can imagine, and then some. :highfive:
when you buy a used gs5, MAKE SURE YOU TRY IT UNDERWATER AND CHECK IT FOR WATER DAMAGE!! (www(dot)verizonwireless(dot)(com)/support/knowledge-base-142121/)
I just bought mine 2 days ago, this morning I discovered that it is water damaged (the little things are red) so I tried it underwater and surprise surprise it died.
I am so sad now because it was gs906s model (s5 prime) which ise very rare / expensive in my country. I tried contacting the owner but he said "when I sold it it was working !" really??!! I did put it now in rice and who knows...
i hope you get my point and sry for my english
Why would you be that stupid to put your device in water, even though it is second hand? The glue used for the front softens up with time and starts to lift, breaking the water seal. NEVER put your device in water, even though its IP67 rated. Good work, dingbat. You wasted a very good device, even though you saw the water damage indicators were red. This is not a guide, and it should not be named as such. There are many other things that need to be tested on a SH S5, like the AMOLED, all the sensors, the cameras, the accesories, the flap over the microusb 3 port, etc. That is the least of your concerns.
西村大一 said:
Why would you be that stupid to put your device in water, even though it is second hand? The glue used for the front softens up with time and starts to lift, breaking the water seal. NEVER put your device in water, even though its IP67 rated. Good work, dingbat. You wasted a very good device, even though you saw the water damage indicators were red. This is not a guide, and it should not be named as such. There are many other things that need to be tested on a SH S5, like the AMOLED, all the sensors, the cameras, the accesories, the flap over the microusb 3 port, etc. That is the least of your concerns.
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It was sooo hot and I tried to cool it down lol ...
quick update : the rice method worked!!! I relived it from rice and everything is working as far as I know...
ps: after putting it in water I checked the usb port and there were no water there.
I want it to be waterproof(thats why I bought it) do you think buying an original back case will be enough ?
bkmd100 said:
It was sooo hot and I tried to cool it down lol ...
quick update : the rice method worked!!! I relived it from rice and everything is working as far as I know...
ps: after putting it in water I checked the usb port and there were no water there.
I want it to be waterproof(thats why I bought it) do you think buying an original back case will be enough ?
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What the actual F. Whatever. Original back cases are very hard to come by, because most battery covers are fake, but if you are lucky enough, then it could work. To tell you something, my G900F, SH, has this weird issue: the front glass is lifted on the right side of the device. Not just the top, but about 50% of the height, and i can see that dirt has gone in and stuck to the original adhesive.
I will buy some 3M adhesive and a frame, because i want to change the frame, and will try to get an original back cover too.
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What the actual F. Whatever. Original back cases are very hard to come by, because most battery covers are fake, but if you are lucky enough, then it could work. To tell you something, my G900F, SH, has this weird issue: the front glass is lifted on the right side of the device. Not just the top, but about 50% of the height, and i can see that dirt has gone in and stuck to the original adhesive.
I will buy some 3M adhesive and a frame, because i want to change the frame, and will try to get an original back cover too.
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thank you for the reply,it worked like charm for about an hour then the screen became green then it turned black. tried removing the battery and turning it on again but nope. I also experienced some extreme overheating (+50 degree). I did put it in rice again who knows..
bkmd100 said:
thank you for the reply,it worked like charm for about an hour then the screen became green then it turned black. tried removing the battery and turning it on again but nope. I also experienced some extreme overheating (+50 degree). I did put it in rice again who knows..
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The water got in it, and there was some water left. You did not tear it down to dry the insides too, that's the problem. Unfortunately, if you say that went green then black it means that it most likely died. Because of water related damage.
西村大一 said:
The water got in it, and there was some water left. You did not tear it down to dry the insides too, that's the problem. Unfortunately, if you say that went green then black it means that it most likely died. Because of water related damage.
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yeap I took it to 5 different repair shops and all agreed to that, the problem is no one have a screen replacement for it, I tried to find it online but 99% of sites dont ship to my country (I will try contacting some friends that live in usa)
I have root in it, just before screen died It was connected it to tv and I was playing some old school ps1 games x), the problem is that after reboot, no hdmi no pc connection work unless you put password( because I used the fingerprint method ), i tried connecting a usb keyboard via otg but nope didnt work, I have usb debugging off also
Do you have a solution how to mirror screen to pc without usb debugging? or how to enable usb debugging via flashing? I remember my galaxy fame"s screen broke so I open the recovery menu clocksworkmod and boom usb debug is on on recovery menu(I installed an apk that enabled me to mirror the screen so I recovered my files), do you know a recovery that works in this model and do the same? and can you plz confirm that if you connect keyboard via otg , you cant input the password?
&thank you in advance )
I'm gonna buy is it a good phone