Hi I picked up a Note 9 today and it's still on Android 9 - N960U1UES3CSJ1
Is their any reason why I would want to stay on Android 9 ? or should I update to the latest firmware ?
I may try and root the phone later is why I'm asking.
clsA said:
Hi I picked up a Note 9 today and it's still on Android 9 - N960U1UES3CSJ1
Is their any reason why I would want to stay on Android 9 ? or should I update to the latest firmware ?
I may try and root the phone later is why I'm asking.
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I saw many feedback about higher battery consumption with android 10. Maybe it was user's fault and the apps they installed.
Lack of custom rom, and lack of customization with android 10.
I personally tried android 10 custom rom, then roll back to android 9 custom rom which has far many options in rom control. Of course I'm not talking about stock.
Newer doesn't always means better.
I do agree. I am stock not rooted. Android pie was still better in performance than Android 10.
debbuger said:
I do agree. I am stock not rooted. Android pie was still better in performance than Android 10.
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Absolutely true
I am disappointed as well with android 10 I also want to go back to 9 pie.
Same here, went back to Pie.
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clsA said:
Hi I picked up a Note 9 today and it's still on Android 9 - N960U1UES3CSJ1
Is their any reason why I would want to stay on Android 9 ? or should I update to the latest firmware ?
I may try and root the phone later is why I'm asking.
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For me...and this is just my personal preference. I tried Android 10. I had issues with videos. Whenever I would rotate device for full screen viewing, video playback would force close. I think it was due to package disabler. If I didn't have it installed all worked fine. I tried every version I have and still same results. Plus 10 really didn't offer much that made me want to stick with it.
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Trex888 said:
Absolutely true
I am disappointed as well with android 10 I also want to go back to 9 pie.
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Sounds like I need to stay on 9 for a bit
butchieboy said:
Same here, went back to Pie.
SM-N950U Extreme Syndicate Rootor me...and this is just my personal preference. I tried Android 10. I had issues with videos. Whenever I would rotate device for full screen viewing, video playback would force close. I think it was due to package disabler. If I didn't have it installed all worked fine. I tried every version I have and still same results. Plus 10 really didn't offer much that made me want to stick with it.
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Is their any reason you can't just flash the newest firmware (DTB2) try it for a bit and just flash back to 9 (CSK1) with the patched Odin.
I looked through the Extreme Syndicate Root thread and I'm anxious to try Samsung Pay on this device so I guess I'll hold off on that for a while.
Already tried the newest. Lasted for a day and went back to Pie. As long as bootloader doesn't change you're good to flash back to Pie. But once bootloader is revision 4 you're stuck on 10
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I blocked the A10 update and opted to remain on Pie. I am very satisfied with how my device has performed on this OS and don't want to run the risk of loss of performance and bugs. The last time I updated the OS the ability to use pro video mode disappeared.
I bought a 512GB Exynos Note9 1 month ago and immediately updated it to Android 10. No complains at all. If I charge the phone to 100% and use it until 0% I can easily get 8h SOT or a bit more with no attempts at saving battery with power saving modes, turning off internet and so on. Unless you could get 10h SOT on Pie I don't see why not update to the latest. Also I'm a big root and mod fan but haven't rooted or flashed the Note9 as there is absolutely no need for any of that. The only thing you will do by rooting is to lose Secure Folder, S Health and OTA updates which is not worth it anymore. Everything is available in the stock ROM + there is GoodLock (NiceLock, FineLock if official not available in your country) for the added functionality. Overall very very happy with my new Note9 on the latest firmware I updated it for 2h straight on day one as it came with Android 8.1 out-of-the-box
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I do agree. I am stock not rooted. Android pie was still better in performance than Android 10.
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butchieboy said:
Same here, went back to Pie.
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For me...and this is just my personal preference. I tried Android 10. I had issues with videos. Whenever I would rotate device for full screen viewing, video playback would force close. I think it was due to package disabler. If I didn't have it installed all worked fine. I tried every version I have and still same results. Plus 10 really didn't offer much that made me want to stick with it.
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Trex888 said:
Absolutely true
I am disappointed as well with android 10 I also want to go back to 9 pie.
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Sorry but i do not agree with you. With my note 9 (DTB6) battery life is improved and also performance.
cereal86 said:
Sorry but i do not agree with you. With my note 9 (DTB6) battery life is improved and also performance.
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Well I updated it to 10 and got it all setup yesterday, My case came in so I took it to work today.
All I did was listen to radio (apk) from 7 till 2:30 did some browsing at lunch and when I got back to my Van the battery was at 33%.
Thats not good at all, My OP6T would still be at 60 - 70% battery in this same situation.
I guess I'll have to put a bunch of stuff to sleep and get off the WQHD (not sure why when the screen was off most of the day)
Any battery tweaks are welcome, I'm sure this phone is capable of way better.
Battery will be different for everyone. Depends on signal..background apps etc. I usually give 2 days after an update or Odin install for the battery to calibrate to my use. But again it will be different for eceryone
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When I received the prompt to install the android 10 OTA I disabled updates on my phone. This is because I like using GxFonts, Substratum, and Swift Installer. They don't work on android 10.
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Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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The Nexus 5 is already discontinued when it comes to official software updates. It will only get security patches and even that won't be for long. (In fact it's latest factory image is from December 2016 so it might've fully stopped already.)
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
I recently (last week) replaced my 2 year old Nexus 6 with a OnePlus 3T and had the same concerns as you. Would I enjoy another OEM's version of Android? I was even running a really bare bones Vanilla AOSP ROM by the end and loved it.
I don't regret changing at all thus far.
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
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Ah, that's so good to hear! This is exactly what I was expecting. Yeah, Nexus 5 had an extremely good run and until the beginning of this year I felt it was still so good as far apps go, but anything web related started being more and more painful. It is still a pretty good phone and I'll keep around for Android dev related things.
Now I'm pumped for the 13th.
Thanks
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I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
perezdi said:
The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
perezdi said:
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems
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This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
perezdi said:
So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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I see. I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible. The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
Didgeridoohan said:
I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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I see. You were just tuning it to your taste and knowledge. Okee dokee. Thanks!
perezdi said:
I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible.
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Google Now is a launcher (AKA home app). It's not pre-installed, but you can easily install it from the Play Store.
I don't think you can disable or uninstall the OnePlus launcher on a stock OP3T ("disable" is grayed out), but you certainly can with root (may want to freeze it before uninstalling, and make sure it doesn't break anything else). But I also doubt it would make any significant difference, compared to simply installing Google Now launcher, and making it the default home app.
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The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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Haven't used it much, it does the basic functions (move/copy files, looks like it can open archives like ZIP) but doesn't look like anything special. If you use one that has more features (particularly root browsing) you'll probably prefer what you already use.
guys i have bought a new one plus 3t device and its running mm 6.0.1
should i update to oos 4.1.6
is it better in terms of battery life and performance
p.s i do not intend to root or install any custom.rom right now and want to stick to oos for now
my basic requirements are good batter life and stability
So basically you are wondering if Android 7.x is better than Android 6.x ?
Well I guess the point is quite obvious.
Or why did you bother buying a new phone?
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tdssmarty16 said:
should i update to oos 4.1.6
is it better in terms of battery life and performance
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Everyone is going to have a different experience with battery life and performance. Of course, the intent with each update, is to improve these thing (although it doesn't always work out this way) as well as increased features and security.
4.1.6 is running great for me.
RASTAVIPER said:
So basically you are wondering if Android 7.x is better than Android 6.x ?
Well I guess the point is quite obvious.
Or why did you bother buying a new phone?
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i am new to the oneplus community amd i dont know about the quality of uldates oneplus provides
i have used samsung and xiaomi devices nd in my opinion early updates from these guys were good but latter on they messes up the performance and battery so thats the reason i wanted to know if i shoukd use the out of the box oos version or should i update to 4.1 6
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Everyone is going to have a different experience with battery life and performance. Of course, the intent with each update, is to improve these thing (although it doesn't always work out this way) as well as increased features and security.
4.1.6 is running great for me.
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thnx for the info
feeling positive about upgrading now
OOS 4.1.6 is great imho. No issues so far, I couldn't go back to MM. People sometimes have issues because they flash updates over updates without wipe, and sometimes the phone may need it.
Since your device is brand new and you don't have a lot a data on it yet, I strongly advice you to update your phone to 4.1.6 and then to reset it (data and settings). This way you'll get a clean, fresh and proper update to use your new phone on Nougat in best conditions possible.
tdssmarty16 said:
i am new to the oneplus community amd i dont know about the quality of uldates oneplus provides
i have used samsung and xiaomi devices nd in my opinion early updates from these guys were good but latter on they messes up the performance and battery so thats the reason i wanted to know if i shoukd use the out of the box oos version or should i update to 4.1 6
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4.1.6 It's not an early update, it's not a beta rom.
It's a stable rom officially released.
Regarding battery there are dozen of complaints, but also many users who don't have an issue.
So, you can't really make up your mind just by reading on the comments of other users.
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I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?
having a locked bootloader.
Sitti01 said:
I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?
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significantly worse battery backup and lags and bugs here and there..and that's pretty much about it...
Surprise surprise. That's why I have stuck to 7.1.1 and rooted the device.
Every new update to any Samsung device introduces bugs and kills battery life. Personally it offers little advantage and I'm not the least bit interested in upgrading.
Why waste time changing something that works well just for the sake of it?
-New Lockscreen clocks
-AOD is now better optimised
-boots up quicker
-support for new bluetooth audio codecs like AAC
-gif support in Samsung Keyboard
-you can now restart the iris scan if ever it initally failed to scan by tapping an icon in the lower quarter of the screen instead of the status bar area
-MUCH better notification management system
Many more small tweaks that make the overall experience better!
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having a locked bootloader.
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What do you mean? Oreo didn't lock down the BL on Exynos, and it was already locked on most Snapdragons.
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kradcliffe said:
Surprise surprise. That's why I have stuck to 7.1.1 and rooted the device.
Every new update to any Samsung device introduces bugs and kills battery life. Personally it offers little advantage and I'm not the least bit interested in upgrading.
Why waste time changing something that works well just for the sake of it?
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No lags, bugs, or noticeable battery drain here, and I'd be the first to say so. Careful about 'reports'...half the time they've done something else like dirty flash, installed mods, etc. and blame the wrong culprit.
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What do you mean? Oreo didn't lock down the BL on Exynos, and it was already locked on most Snapdragons.
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No lags, bugs, or noticeable battery drain here, and I'd be the first to say so. Careful about 'reports'...half the time they've done something else like dirty flash, installed mods, etc. and blame the wrong culprit.
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before i was on 7.1, i jumped to 8.0 and it reset my rmm state, waited around 2 weeks to get oem unlock option it didnt. and i am not going back to oreo for sure.
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before i was on 7.1, i jumped to 8.0 and it reset my rmm state, waited around 2 weeks to get oem unlock option it didnt. and i am not going back to oreo for sure.
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Ok but the problem is with rmm on your specific device model/region, not Oreo itself. I have a different model and OEM is unaffected by Oreo for me (oem unlock toggle is still there). People have rmm issues even on Nougat. It doesn't mean you have to upgrade to Oreo if course, but Oreo is not the reason for your issues.
I updated and have been seeing the lag. Deleting emails takes like 5 secs now after hitting delete.
Iris recognition is a lot faster.
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For me, the key reason for updating to Oreo was support for the Sony LDAC Bluetooth codec. I have the WI-1000X and the MDR-1000X headphones and can now stream audio to these via LDAC, instead of APTX.
Apart from that, as mentioned by previous posters, notifications have received a major overhaul. Also, I have not seen any performance dip after the update -- I flashed the France ROM via ODIN, without doing a factory reset or starting afresh.
I am never far away from a wireless charging pad, so don't know if the battery life has gone for a toss after Oreo.
I think that people should be more careful when posting negative or unconfirmed issues, as other poster said, some people get troubles when dirty flashing or installing firmwares other than official OTA ones
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For me, the key reason for updating to Oreo was support for the Sony LDAC Bluetooth codec. I have the WI-1000X and the MDR-1000X headphones and can now stream audio to these via LDAC, instead of APTX.
Apart from that, as mentioned by previous posters, notifications have received a major overhaul. Also, I have not seen any performance dip after the update -- I flashed the France ROM via ODIN, without doing a factory reset or starting afresh.
I am never far away from a wireless charging pad, so don't know if the battery life has gone for a toss after Oreo.
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I'm currently using my WI-1000x, and just updated to Oreo. Have you noticed any difference with LDAC?
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I think that people should be more careful when posting negative or unconfirmed issues, as other poster said, some people get troubles when dirty flashing or installing firmwares other than official OTA ones
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Agreed. Bone stock VZW Note 8 here, had it since pre-order. Oreo update came today and so far it's only been faster with no issues. It added some nice Bluetooth audio options in Developer Options.
I flashed the official Oreo rom so I didn't do a OTA and it works fantastic for me.
Overall performance is a lot better
Features like PIP are great
Battery is better
Waaaay better notifications
And a lot of other small improvements.
I think people that have issues with Oreo simply did a OTA
Sitti01 said:
I still haven't revived Oreo update here in Thailand. When it is released, before I install it, I'm curious what is the benefit of installing Oreo? Note 8 already does everything it's supposed do, will this update make anything better or provides any new features?
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Basically avoid all x.0 software releases.
Goes for every software...
Samsung is already testing 8.1 on the note 9 so I will just wait for that to be ported.
It will bring new features and much better stability.
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-New Lockscreen clocks
-AOD is now better optimised
-boots up quicker
-support for new bluetooth audio codecs like AAC
-gif support in Samsung Keyboard
-you can now restart the iris scan if ever it initally failed to scan by tapping an icon in the lower quarter of the screen instead of the status bar area
-MUCH better notification management system
Many more small tweaks that make the overall experience better!
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And better battery performance :good:
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significantly worse battery backup and lags and bugs here and there..and that's pretty much about it...
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Been using oreo on my note 8 for weeks, I have none of those problems.
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Basically avoid all x.0 software releases.
Goes for every software...
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Agreed, I've almost always had the same experience in the past. The bugs usually get worked out in x.1. Not much different with 8.0, I pretty much immediately went back to 7.1.1.
Been on Oreo for 11 days now. For the average user there is some noticeable minor visual change in the UI. Other than that the phone feels and performs about the same. Nothing has changed on my usage.
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
No
No
Very good
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Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)
Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.
Nah just this phone
ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.
No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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bat0nas said:
Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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dave678 said:
Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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bat0nas said:
Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.
When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?
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I still use my note with last Oreo. Everything running fast and without problems.
I think that the best software android version, most stable and overall good is with which the device appears on the market. But with Note 9 is otherwise, so please help me in this .
Android 10 is a lot of better from stable 8.1?
If you still enjoy it...
For most people the newer the better.
Is it really that battery life is better in oreo? Maybe, as I remember easily could get 6hrs of sot but still that time it was new, so of course the battery performance was better.
I'm on 10 and have no problems at all. Can get 8h screen time on wifi with my usage. Bought phone in March this year brand new. The 512GB Exynos model.
Thanks for answers. I'am afraid after update worse photo quality, lower screen brightness, lower GSM network (A9 for me had lower signal GSM) and overall slower running.
This update is unfortunately "one way ticket".
But for me general advantages A10 is gestures and maybe safety (i very rarely install new applications and control access before install), newer interface but whether better?
This all depends on whether or not that you use mobile banking or financial apps on your Note 9. If you do then I would advise that you install the android 10 update onto your device to patch up the security flaws. Otherwise you leave your device opened to hackers to steal your personal financial data.
I don't use any banking and financial services on my Note 9. Only standard use- texting, making photos, Internet, phone calls.
So new interface ans gestures is worth update or maybay stay with sure 8.1 and still enjoy it?
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I don't use any banking and financial services on my Note 9. Only standard use- texting, making photos, Internet, phone calls.
So new interface ans gestures is worth update or maybay stay with sure 8.1 and still enjoy it?
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Hi, @_GRIZZLY_
If you are happy using Oreo on your Note9, I would not update to Android 10.
I updated from Pie to Android 10 only because of security concerns - the 0-click vulnerability - after receiving a lot of "Likee" codes in Samsung Messages (freaked me out, lol).
Me not likee "Likee" codes, so after reading about Samsung Messages being updated in Android 10, I updated.
I also removed via adb the Samsung "honeyboard" keyboard, Sticker Center, and Keyboard Content Center. Giving AnySoftKeyboard (from F-droid) a spin instead of using Samsung keyboard.
In Android 10, the Samsung Keyboard "Honeyboard," Samsung Clock, and Samsung Gallery are integrated with other applications (Google Search, Google Translate, YouTube, FourSquare (location in Gallery), Spotify). Some folks may enjoy using integrated apps, though.
I'm still on Oreo and consistantly getting 7 to 8 hours of SOT. Plus One UI is just ad ridden.
Oreo SOT from 100% to 10% 8-9 hours.
Happy with Oreo Exynos model.
Thanks for answers. So conclusion is only one- I'am stay with Oreo. Maybe i will do factory reset after 9 months from last reset.
After 2 years look Oreo is little booring for me but looking more serious than OneUI. I use black theme made by samsung from theme store. Of course ths is only my opinion about look interface .
I have my N960N upgrade to One UI 2.1 and it has been running pretty well. Of course I use it for backing up my N950N, which is currently my daily driver. I will probably switch to my N960N. Once my N950N's battery
Oreo is great but life and especially Note 9 life is too short for using all the time only one version OS.
What with photo quality on the A10? Is better, worse, similar compare to Oreo?
No problems with led notification?
_GRIZZLY_ said:
Oreo is great but life and especially Note 9 life is too short for using all the time only one version OS.
What with photo quality on the A10? Is better, worse, similar compare to Oreo?
No problems with led notification?
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Well as you can see One UI is ad infested now and some of the edge panels are gone now.
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Well as you can see One UI is ad infested now and some of the edge panels are gone now.
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I don't use edge panels but infested interface is disappoiting.
With this decision good samsung ends.
Thanks for info.