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if the galaxy S' screen is known to be way better than the iphone 4 ( AMOLED vs Retina ) then how come when i hold my friend's iphone i see his phone's display looking wayyy much better than my galaxy ? even at full brightness , mine still looks yellow/ or darker than his screen
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and i get these results or worse on different roms and kernels , any idea why and how to fix it ?
well I have compared an iPhone and my sgs and their is no comparison, mine was way better. Both were at fully brightness , that time I was at 2.3.4 jvr stock.
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You can use Voodoo colour to adjust the colour settings.
Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Probably what he says he correct. I'm no expert, But if you look real close at the display screens (you can notice this on letters), You can see the dots (pixels) that made up each letter (or an image) on galaxy S. (and S ii as well).
But on iPhone, The Pixels are not visible, thus makes the image more smooth and clearer.
Screen on my SGS II looks great. Fonts look smooth and clear; even small font sizes. IMHO, I think the the Super AMOLED+ display looks much better than the screen on the iPhone 4. It's brighter, has far better color saturation, and is more energy efficient. I prefer AMOLED displays over traditional LCD because AMOLED displays have self illuminating pixels, which means no backlighting is needed, making for an evenly lit display. (no bright spots or shadowing).
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My uncle has an iPhone4 and his screen may be more crisp, but the colors on my sgs is so much better.
If you want the best screen available buy a galaxy nexus, the screen has almost (just a few procent) the same ppi as the iPhone, but its a super amoled screen so the colors are much more vivid then the iPhone.
Mathijs
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I phone's screen is 3.5" and sgs's screen is 4.0" and so even if they had equal resolutions then iPhone would have came out better . Here we are talking about brightness and colours and I don't believe iPhone has any comparison with this beauty I am typing this reply on.
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The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind
YEA64 said:
The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind
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Haha, maybe he was at low battery when he compared his sgs with iphone .
Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.
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Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.
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+1 and great maths.
I think this guy is trolling here!
Blah blah blah. The retina display has higher pixel density; so what. This forum is about Android, not iPhone. I think I speak for most when I say that nobody cares about the iPhone or it's retina display. Apple's idea of state of the art is a recycled iPhone 4 with 3g? I'll pass. You fanboys can keep your overpriced, old technology.
Iphone edges out the sgs in a number or screen aspects, but SGS has two extremely important and significant advantages.
1. Screen size - ip4 screen is tiny. higher resolution helps out but it's just more comfortable and practical to use a bigger screen.
2. Contrast - ever since I looked at the superamoled, all other screen contrast has been ewww (iphone, ipad included), especially in darker settings.
For that, my next phone must have amoled plus a screen size >= 4"
iphone4;
+more pixels (high resolution small area)..
sgs;
+good color
+good contrast
+bigger
the reason why your screen may be darker is because AMOLED screen tend to wear down over time.
the only problem in my case is the battery i ve SGS1
Back light displays are passe.
AMOLED at this state is not the future technology.
Why?
It dies so fast (burn-in effect shows this), and maybe after a year it could lose third of the initial brightness.
Just look at the new LCDs over 1000 nits and reduced power consumption, viewing angle needless to speak of, and many more improvements, AMOLED gain sharpness, and lost some brightness, burn-in still there, and some other problems.
I had Samsung Wave and then SGS and returning to SGS 2 or Galaxy Nexus is a no go since there is no improvement on this field (give big cash and worry about how long was the status bar on, so it won't burn in, give me a brake).
Amoled is yet to grow or die...
I noticed, as other people did too, that the display gets periodically dimmer during use.
What I've discovered is that the display suffers from some "major" brightness throttling, as soon as the CPU reaches around 50°C, the brightness of the display will start to drop from around 410 cd/m² while idle to around 350 cd/m², and will go as low as 300 cd/m² if temperatures remain high. You get to that kind of temperature in about 5 mins of browsing heavy sites (The Verge for example), so you almost never get to actually enjoy the full brightness of the display doing anything heavy.
Personally, 300 cd/m² is way too low for a smartphone, 400 cd/m² is really the minimum for comfortable viewing in sunlight, so this is a total dealbreaker for me.
They really should have gone with a lower ppi screen, 445 ppi is completely overkill compared to 300ish, would have improved performance, battery life, and they wouldn't have needed to throttle the brightness so bad. More isn't always better I guess
If they didn't go with 445ppi screen then people would moan that the phone was last year's tech. Can't please everybody in this world. Plus, they wanted a 5" screen which needs a higher resolution otherwise the ppi would fall below the Nexus 4 - imagine the negative criticism that would create if this years phone had a worse display than last years!
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Yeah that wouldn't have been good at all. They have to go with the trend, and also yes I believe that the nexus is a consumer device but because its heavily used by developers like it should be, it will push them more to support XXHDPI displays. There are still many apps that aren't built with XXHDPI in mind and its ridiculous. Resources meant for 720p look awful on 1080p screens. Also I can see a huge difference between such PPI. Anyone who says they can't see the difference between 300ish PPI and 450ish must have terrible vision. I myself have pretty bad vision and can tell. I look at my old iPhone 4 sometimes (yes I was an iPhone owner how terrible) and my god that 320 some PPI looks really really bad compared to my One. Now we are getting to 1440p devices and that sounds crazy. Maybe. I will have to see for myself if 520+ PPI makes a difference to my One and soon to be nexus 5's 440+ PPI.
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shoco said:
I noticed, as other people did too, that the display gets periodically dimmer during use.
What I've discovered is that the display suffers from some "major" brightness throttling, as soon as the CPU reaches around 50°C, the brightness of the display will start to drop from around 410 cd/m² while idle to around 350 cd/m², and will go as low as 300 cd/m² if temperatures remain high. You get to that kind of temperature in about 5 mins of browing heavy sites (The Verge for example), so you almost never get to actually enjoy the full brightness of the display doing anything heavy.
Personally, 300 cd/m² is way too low for a smartphone, 400 cd/m² is really the minimum for comfortable viewing in sunlight in my opinion, so this is a total dealbreaker for me.
They really should have gone with a lower ppi screen, 445 ppi is completely overkill compared to 300ish, would have improved performance, battery life, and they wouldn't have needed to throttle the brightness so bad. More isn't always better I guess
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How else do you cool a phone that is over heating? There is no active cooling in these devices (i.e. no fan) so the only way to cool the device down is to dial in lower numbers. LG have gone for turning down the LED back-light, which means the CPU can run faster than it might otherwise if it was being baked by the display.
LEDs also hate being hot as they start to age very quickly, so this may also be protecting the backlights. Also the panel uses a high voltage, something like 30 volts to drive the LEDs using a DC-DC convertor, these are not 100% efficient so produce heat as well, another reason it might need to turn the LEDs down. You can't have a slim sexy looking mobile device with 2GHz quad core processor running 100% flat out without it overheating, so passive cooling is used.
This isn't unique to this phone, and many devices uses passive cooling in this way, even my Ivy Bridge desktop computer with a fan has the ability to turn down the CPU clock to help prevent heating issues.
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shoco said:
I noticed, as other people did too, that the display gets periodically dimmer during use.
What I've discovered is that the display suffers from some "major" brightness throttling, as soon as the CPU reaches around 50°C, the brightness of the display will start to drop from around 410 cd/m² while idle to around 350 cd/m², and will go as low as 300 cd/m² if temperatures remain high. You get to that kind of temperature in about 5 mins of browing heavy sites (The Verge for example), so you almost never get to actually enjoy the full brightness of the display doing anything heavy.
Personally, 300 cd/m² is way too low for a smartphone, 400 cd/m² is really the minimum for comfortable viewing in sunlight in my opinion, so this is a total dealbreaker for me.
They really should have gone with a lower ppi screen, 445 ppi is completely overkill compared to 300ish, would have improved performance, battery life, and they wouldn't have needed to throttle the brightness so bad. More isn't always better I guess
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Galaxy S4's Chrome would enable auto-brightness when you open it even though the phone has full-brightness enabled.
Not trying to tell anyone how to use their phone, but I see all these complaints about auto brightness and I can't help but wonder, am I the only person that doesn't use it? For years now I've disabled auto brightness on all my phones. I just use a widget that let's me quickly bring it up or down and to be honest its very easy and convenient. I've always felt that it was superior and less awkward than letting autobrightness adjust it for me. The battery savings are great too.
I dont understand why these people cannot make models that are 3 millimeter thicker so they can have all the things in them that we need. larger battery, heatsinks, stereo speaker, and so on. Will be returning it.
I've had no doctor tell me that 3mm extra on my phone will kill me.
Some day this "thin" fad will disappear and companies will start using their heads more when designing their products.
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Not trying to tell anyone how to use their phone, but I see all these complaints about auto brightness and I can't help but wonder, am I the only person that doesn't use it? For years now I've disabled auto brightness on all my phones. I just use a widget that let's me quickly bring it up or down and to be honest its very easy and convenient. I've always felt that it was superior and less awkward than letting autobrightness adjust it for me. The battery savings are great too.
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I never use auto brightness. It always makes the screen too bright. Also, never noticed any dimming, even after 2+ hrs surfing and gaming. Can't wait to see the status bar brightness slider make it back into a rom.
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I dont understand why these people cannot make models that are 3 millimeter thicker so they can have all the things in them that we need. larger battery, heatsinks, stereo speaker, and so on. Will be returning it.
I've had no doctor tell me that 3mm extra on my phone will kill me.
Some day this "thin" fad will disappear and companies will start using their heads more when designing their products.
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You can have all that, and for only about $300 more. You have several options, but this is THE best bang for your buck.
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Not trying to tell anyone how to use their phone, but I see all these complaints about auto brightness and I can't help but wonder, am I the only person that doesn't use it? For years now I've disabled auto brightness on all my phones. I just use a widget that let's me quickly bring it up or down and to be honest its very easy and convenient. I've always felt that it was superior and less awkward than letting autobrightness adjust it for me. The battery savings are great too.
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auto brightness kicks in even if you have it disabled.
It's normal for the Snapdragon 800. I had the Note 3 and it did the same thing and lowered the brightness more noticeably and during simple tasks such as web browsing. The HTC One does this to some extent, but the N5 handles it better than the Note 3. It's because the phone is thin with no fan to cool down the CPU.. it's normal, unfortunately- all 800s do it.
I love how a lot of people say that they want a lower PPI, but I can almost guarantee you that those same people would complain about this phone having "last year's specs" if it had a 720p screen.
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Wheres your proof on that. I've not seen it or seen my screen get dim
On S4 just run Chrome it will automatically adjust brightness upon start.
On nexus 5 (I noticed this only today myself), use the phone for 5-10 mins non stop, like browsing, Facebook, flickr, 500px and etc., once the CPU heats up it will start adjusting brightness itself.
In both cases, auto brightness is off in settings and the screen is set to full brightness.
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auto brightness kicks in even if you have it disabled.
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Lol , I just had to!
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I love how a lot of people say that they want a lower PPI, but I can almost guarantee you that those same people would complain about this phone having "last year's specs" if it had a 720p screen.
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They should just stick with the n4. Hell, I'll sell my gnex for $100 if someone wants 720p.
I've never noticed this... In fact my problem is that I don't use auto brightness because this screen is so freaking bright. I have it pegged at 20% and I have no problem even during the day seeing the screen.
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Hi again guys, for those of you who may be interested I found that it is possible to reduce the brightness throttling to some extent by using the app "faux kernel" and setting the mpdecision to "conservative" (using the Qualcomm MPdecision).
The good thing is that it doesn't negatively impact performance, the CPU will still run at max speed if need be but will more aggressively return to lower frequencies when not needed, reducing heating and improving battery life as well. Overall it allows you to browse and staying at around 350 cd/m² instead of dropping all the way to 300 cd/m², which is an improvement.
The problem here in my opinion is that the thermal throttling on the Snapdragon 800 is way too aggressive, 50°c is fine, they should let it go to 60°C before starting to throttle the brightness that hard, there's still plenty of leeway.
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I love how a lot of people say that they want a lower PPI, but I can almost guarantee you that those same people would complain about this phone having "last year's specs" if it had a 720p screen.
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I got an iPhone 5S yesterday as a replacement for the N5 that I'll be returning, there's litterally zero difference is clarity except for text when you're completely zoomed out that you couldn't read it anyway. In any normal use there's absolutely no benefit at all beyond 330ish ppi, I much prefer the screen of the iPhone 5/5S at 330 ppi with a consistent brightness of 550 cd/m². To me it's a much smarter compromise than 445 ppi throttled to death.
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I got an iPhone 5S yesterday as a replacement for the N5 that I'll be returning, there's litterally zero difference is clarity except for text when you're completely zoomed out that you couldn't read it anyway. In any normal use there's absolutely no benefit at all beyond 330ish ppi, I much prefer the screen of the iPhone 5/5S at 330 ppi with a consistent brightness of 550 cd/m². To me it's a much smarter compromise than 445 ppi throttled to death.
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How about selling it for your fellow xda member?
I can't order it at all.. need it in the next 7 days
shoco said:
I got an iPhone 5S yesterday as a replacement for the N5 that I'll be returning, there's litterally zero difference is clarity except for text when you're completely zoomed out that you couldn't read it anyway. In any normal use there's absolutely no benefit at all beyond 330ish ppi, I much prefer the screen of the iPhone 5/5S at 330 ppi with a consistent brightness of 550 cd/m². To me it's a much smarter compromise than 445 ppi throttled to death.
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I love the completely lame excuses people give here saying they're going back to the 5s as if we're all supposed to bow down to their infinite wisdom. So really, the only thing that tipped you over was the brightness throttling? My theory is some people just buy the nexus 5, knowing they can return it for a full refund thinking it gives them a chance to come and bash it on the forum, if youre even telling the truth and you actually bought it.
Good riddance.
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I love the completely lame excuses people give here saying they're going back to the 5s as if we're all supposed to bow down to their infinite wisdom. So really, the only thing that tipped you over was the brightness throttling? My theory is some people just buy the nexus 5, knowing they can return it for a full refund thinking it gives them a chance to come and bash it on the forum, if youre even telling the truth and you actually bought it.
Good riddance.
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It's much harder to return the N5 than returning a product you would buy at retail, so no I wouldn't buy it just for the lolz, I genuinely thought, and still think, it's an amazing product. The thing is I can put up with mediocre battery life, dodgy viewing angles, but not with a dim display on top of that.
so how many disappointing threads are we gonna have?
I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
MrHardplastic said:
I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
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That's the important question. This year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S5, Note 4, Tab S) were very bright... but last year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S4).. not so much. Note 3 was fine however.
some review says moto X 2014 has poor outdoor visibility
and according to phonearena screen measurement, the moto X only has a maximum brightness of 385 nits
Now i'm seriously worried about the N6.....
I will accept anything higher than 450 nits, but 385 nits is just way too low
btw, I always never understood why maximum brightness is not part of the standard specs, it's an important factor, sometimes it's more important than pixel density or color saturation
While I will take all the brightness I can get, I have only struggled a few times with my S4 outdoors. I just don't use my phone all that much in full sunlight. Maybe check a football score during my kid's soccer game. Not exactly mission critical, but I guess it would be nice if it were easier. I certainly wouldn't give up the superior blacks the other 99.99% of the time. But given the awesome screens on the latest Samsungs, we should be able to have our cake and eat it, too.
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Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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gtalum said:
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
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Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
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If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
Here's how to find out - go look at one yourself before purchase.
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Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
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You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
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You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
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We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
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i am happy this was answered so i didn't have to make a post just to make sure. i know i have options for dpi and auto brighness controls on my gs2. but i have to wonder why they set it so low in the first place? was it for battery savings? is it because the reflectivity is so good that it didn't need to be higher? is it because it will burn out the organics? if the gs3, 290 nits, was good enough to see outside then i guess this one will be also. it just sucks that it is so low. and i don't know if i would want to trust a kernel that raised it.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
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Sony smarthones have the worst display ever. turn off bravia engine (contrast and vivid) and you will love motorola 720i ;P
PhoneArena state the Nexus 6 is 270nits.
& the Nexus 5 is 485nits
Yet, I'm pretty sure we've seen both phones on Max brightness next to each other with the Nexus 6 being brighter.
In fact, every video I've seen with both the Nexus 6 & Note 4 has shown the Nexus to have the brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
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brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
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Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
Thanks
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Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
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Every video I've seen with both phones together.
If the Nexus 6 is supposed to only be 270nits, how is this possible?
I've also seen an image of the Nexus 5 & 6 together on Max brightness with the 6 being brighter.
Nexus 5 is 485 nits so PhoneArenas 270nits claim makes no sense at all.
Even in PhoneArenas own video, the Nexus looks brighter than the Note 4, easily visible during browsing & the video benchmark etc.
Google Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4: http://youtu.be/afOEn-zm_y0
It's funny because when I was playing with the Note 4 in a Sprint store I was surprised to learn that the screen was at full brightness. It didn't seem all that bright to me.
Any major differences in battery consumption or phone running more slow between the two? The real difference I can see between the two is text clarity which for my eyes is huge lol.
Thanks!
Don't think there's any real negligible battery drain between the two...
Battery life is equal. Now, things were different with older phones like the LG G2 and LG G3. The latter was the 1st 1440P phone on the market, which led to poor battery. We are well past that period. Note 4 uses 1440P and was regarded as a battery champ.
With the S10 you'll lose more battery from poor signal than resolution.
Awesome thank you. I wonder why Samsung chooses to set default at 1080 instead QHD?
1080p because green subpixel life. With QHD, every green subpixel have to burn brighter.
Amoled pentile uses twice more smaller green subpixels than red and blue.
I plan to keep this phone longer than any prior phone I've owned. If FHD helps my screen last longer then I may very well use this setting.
Playing between the two, I can definitely see a difference in small text clarity tho. I wish I can un-see the text clarity that WQHD brings lol.
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I plan to keep this phone longer than any prior phone I've owned. If FHD helps my screen last longer then I may very well use this setting.
Playing between the two, I can definitely see a difference in small text clarity tho. I wish I can un-see the text clarity that WQHD brings lol.
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You've paid a small fortune for the phone, use WQHD lol. The screen will be fine.
This is very true! Lol
UPDATE: Found a fix and hope it works for you guys too!
Forced 90hz is the way to go! Pixel 4 FTW!
1. Forced 90hz - ON
2. Ambient eq - ON/OFF (I have it ON but I heard some people turned it OFF and it fixed the black crush/purple hue. I tried it and it didn't fix anything for me
3. Always on display - MUST BE ON (I had this OFF before to save battery. This must be turned back on. I can replicate this every time, turn it off and the crushed black/purple hue appear, turn it on and the problem goes away.
Enjoy your P4 on 90hz always guys!
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I had my P4XL on forced 90hz the whole day. When night came my brightness was at around 30% and I noticed something was wrong with the screen. The default grey wallpaper was severely crushed, it looked more black than grey; youtube videos looked awful in darker scenes; my astro shots looked off, there was no transition in the night sky, it went from brighter areas to sudden pitch black.
I took out my P3XL to compare and it was significantly better! I knew this couldn't be right so I thought maybe I should try turning off the forced 90hz on my P4XL. Once it was off, the black crush was gone!
Is this meant to happen? Does higher refresh rates relate to brightness or has Google done something with it?
Here is a link to photos I took - P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (ON) & P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (OFF)
ttps://imgur.com/a/mS7yZ5o (i'm a junior member and can't post links, please add 'h' to the front)
I tried to replicate the problem on my pixel 4 xl and didn't have the same issue
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.
zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.
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I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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I really hope not
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.
I noticed the same issue. White 4xl, I forced the 90hz and sometimes when I unlocked the phone at night low brightness the screen looks watched out, blacks look gray but then I locked the phone and open it again and I get the issue op is talking about. Very crushed blacks and colors are way off. I also have on the night light as well. I will test more today.
zetsumeikuro said:
The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.
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Ok
cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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It was about the smaller Pixel 4:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/24/pixel-4-lg-display/
zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made.
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Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!
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Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!
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That was my thoughts, and yes they are Samsung ones. Barely any complaints about the OnePlus 7 pro. Flooding in for the pixel 4 already
Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.
m+a+r+k said:
Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.
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If you have forced 90hz you actually want to have AOD on and that will get rid of the purple/green tint for certain colors at lower brightness.