The main reason for 90% of ppl I've talked to and seen online for getting the OP7 Pro was the user experience of Oxygen OS. As a Mi9T Pro user, what ROM will get me closest to this experience since I don't see a Oxygen OS ROM here. I'm sorry if this question has been asked and answered before, I tried searching but nothing similar came up. Thx and any support is much appreciated.
Really i dont understand what ppl are obsessed by Oxygen ROM. user experience? what is better then on any other rom? MIUI is quit same good as oxygen, and well optimised.
I think I've seen an Oxygen OS beta thread.
Personally, I tried few roms but I realised stock MIUI feels the best in terms of speed and everything, which is expected since it's factory optimized.
I removed all the Xiaomi bloatware and installed Google equivalents when needed. I also blocked all Xiaomi tracking and telemetry domains using hosts.
I always install Nova Launcher on every device is buy and customize it for my likings. And then added FNG for totally customize it for comfort.
SwiftKey is my favourite keyboard which I can resize to exact point of comfort for me.
I mean to say that android comes with decent flexibility and options to customize user experience. Personally i feel good with my tuned UX.
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Found the thread for Oxygen OS: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/oxygen-os-10-3-1-stable-t4046607
BlackCommando said:
I think I've seen an Oxygen OS beta thread.
Personally, I tried few roms but I realised stock MIUI feels the best in terms of speed and everything, which is expected since it's factory optimized.
I removed all the Xiaomi bloatware and installed Google equivalents when needed. I also blocked all Xiaomi tracking and telemetry domains using hosts.
I always install Nova Launcher on every device is buy and customize it for my likings. And then added FNG for totally customize it for comfort.
SwiftKey is my favourite keyboard which I can resize to exact point of comfort for me.
I mean to say that android comes with decent flexibility and options to customize user experience. Personally i feel good with my tuned UX.
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Found the thread for Oxygen OS: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/oxygen-os-10-3-1-stable-t4046607
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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I do find Oxygen OS better than MIUI. But the customizations I mentioned I need to do on every phone, including my old One Plus 6.
I like one plus phones. When buying the new phone OnePlus 7 was obvious choice for me, but lack of pop-up camera, headphone jack, and wide angle camera were deal breaker for me.
i like exploring all kinds of roms, i tried most of the roms for k20 pro.. as i dont like my phone everyday in same looks.
i enjoy using evox type of customizations, but tend to move to stable roms with FP working flawlessly and has call rec ( just in case), i used EU beta roms for long time than indian stock rom ( now on China beta though)
i have seen oneplus 7t .. it seems snappy, mostly due to animations.. but i am sure it Oxygenos will also get bored after a while
but MIUI is not like that every time you get bored.. try some themes, and launchers
i mock my friends, like my phone is on IOS,OxygenOS.. only with a theme change
i have to admit that there are much beautiful in MIUI than in any other
my fav : ios13 x pro by rafael henrique and soo on.
if you like to explore.. there is more chance in k20 pro as we have MIUI and customroms ( even Oxygenos custom rom , which is crippled but yes)
but if i buy oneplus - i wont have MIUI ! .. i call that an added advantage for k20 pro.
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Well this is the clear example of why Oxygen OS is better than MIUI.
Just take a look at all the changes you had to do to the ROM in order to be satisfied with it... Dude i know most people here are used to change and customize everything but many of my coworkers just to give you an example doesnt even know what a launcher is. When i told them they could change launcher it was like a big surprise to them and i couldnt believe they didnt know that.
So going back to your comment .. the thing is that most ppl wont bother change things like you did and so they will use the ROM as it comes therefore if we compare stock ROMs experiences Oxygen OS beats MIUI so bad, they don't orverload you with apps you probably dont need.
The overall experience eels smooth and simple and sometimes simple is better.
Right now i have a MI 9T Pro yes but i had 7 PRO even 7T and it was the first time for me that i was happy with a stock ROM and didnt want to change, while with MIUI i inmediately change to AOSP Roms.
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It kinda is a good example and it also really isn't at the same time. The dude above talks about personalizing his phone to a degree to fit his personal needs, I think everyone of us geeks does something like that. I customize some stuff too, for example the position of icons on my home screen or the quick toggles, gboard settings but these are things we do on every phone. I still agree with your premise tho, I think OOS is a decently cleaner than MIUI out of the box and I really have a lot of criticism for MIUI too but credit where credit is due: MIUI is getting better and better with every iteration (except for maybe MIUI9 to 10) and I'll give them that. Obviously a lot comes down to personal preference and I really like the direction that stock android is going but stock android also kinda sucks to be honest. There's no dual apps, themes just got integrated and are still pretty trash, there's no proper gallery app, no recording app nor screen recording, and they in fact *just* integrated a file manager with android 10 and are still working on a decent picture editor. That's probably the reason why OxygenOS is as popular as it is. It takes stock android direction and adds everything that's missing (and there's a lot missing imo, as I just listed)
Thanks for all the feedback and personalization tips guys. I do like the customization options of MIUI, and the most common and significant problem with MIUI I've come across is the bloatware, and no shortcut to disabling it. Most ppl don't delve into the nitty gritties generally because they don't have the know how and technical expertise to do so, and sometimes bcoz they don't have the time. I love my phone and was just wondering if getting a custom rom was going to significantly increase the UX. I'd upgrade to the K30 Pro, but the lack of even a 90hz screen is off putting. Even the K30 has 120hz, but the Pro got nerfed bigtime.
As far as Custom ROMs for the Mi 9T Pro/K20 Pro goes, which one would you guys suggest?
I've tried Lineage OS and Resurrection. I kept Lineage for few days, which ran nice but had random restarts. Although many other people report it is running without problems.
Finally I came to EEA rom (my phone had Indian ROM originally).
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Due to death of my nexus 5 I chose to switch to Xiaomi Mi5. Good specs, very affordable just like the old nexus 5. Only annoying thing is MIUI.
Could you recommend some close to stock Android rom? Something that would be most nexus/pixel-like
Lineage OS.
for more features Resurrection Remix and many more.
I don't think I want anything but clean, stock Android. No extra features, just stock, stable rom. Thank you very much, I'll check it as soon as I get the device
If you want pure stock Android, you might as well get a Nexus 5X for the same price. It will run stock Android much better than the Mi5.
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Here's the ROM you're looking for, pure AOSP with updated CAF sources, with Google Pixel theme and Assistant enabled:
ht tps://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/rom-aosp-caf-t3557568
Works great with this kernel:
ht tps://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/kernel-brand-kernel-cm13-alpha-1-0-t3480663
IMO it runs vastly smoother than LineageOS or anything based on it, but maybe I just haven't tinkered enough with them. Been using it for a few days without any major bugs (just video recording and charging led). I recommend you flash one of the compatible camera firmwares from another thread.
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If you want pure stock Android, you might as well get a Nexus 5X for the same price. It will run stock Android much better than the Mi5.
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I didn't check it before buying, but nexus 5x doesn't come in versions above 32gb storage. 32gb version is the same price as 64gb Mi5 where I live. Thanks anyway
gabor94 said:
I didn't check it before buying, but nexus 5x doesn't come in versions above 32gb storage. 32gb version is the same price as 64gb Mi5 where I live. Thanks anyway
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Yeah, but for stock Android and actually 100% working custom ROMs, the 5X would be the way to go, and that alone would out weigh the extra storage space.
You bet a handful of custom ROMs for the Mi5 and you still have issues. Like what was mentioned above, a mostly working ROM with issues with video recording. Also, last time I tried a custom ROM on a Xiaomi device (the Mi4), everything pretty much worked, but camera quality was horrible and that was a deal breaker for me.
Anywho, enjoy your Mi5!
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Yeah, but for stock Android and actually 100% working custom ROMs, the 5X would be the way to go, and that alone would out weigh the extra storage space.
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I guess it depends. My old nexus 5 had 32gb of storage and it was not enough for me.
Ulver said:
You bet a handful of custom ROMs for the Mi5 and you still have issues. Like what was mentioned above, a mostly working ROM with issues with video recording. Also, last time I tried a custom ROM on a Xiaomi device (the Mi4), everything pretty much worked, but camera quality was horrible and that was a deal breaker for me.
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Before nexus I've been using sgs2 with custom ROMs and the experience was great. I thought that there should be fewer problems nowadays.
gabor94 said:
Before nexus I've been using sgs2 with custom ROMs and the experience was great. I thought that there should be fewer problems nowadays.
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The Galaxy S2 was the last Samsung phone with all the proper sources released, hence it had stable ROMs. We have sort of working semi-recent code for the Mi5, hence there are problems with camera HAL3 and capicitive touch buttons on the lgd varient.
IMO it's very stable otherwise, I don't have crashes or random reboots, speed is equal or comparable to the One Plus 3 (a massive improvement), and battery life, mulitasking and audio is better than on MIUI. Not to mention it's nice having Magisk, Viper4Arise, Google Assistant, Fingerprint wake up, F2FS, Doze, OMS substratum, custom kernels and various other mods working flawlessly for once, and without the device overheating - it doesn't even get noticeably warm.
It makes a better Nexus device than the 5x with it's overheating SD808, even with it's small flaws. I think you made the right choice.
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The Galaxy S2 was the last Samsung phone with all the proper sources released, hence it had stable ROMs. We have sort of working semi-recent code for the Mi5, hence there are problems with camera HAL3 and capicitive touch buttons on the lgd varient.
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Didn't actually know that, everyday you learn new stuff.
My reasoning buying Mi5 was that probably there are many people who buy this phone because of the price and but hate the looks of MIUI, hence the demand for a solid, clean ROM. I suppose I wasn't wrong after all.
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Didn't actually know that, everyday you learn new stuff.
My reasoning buying Mi5 was that probably there are many people who buy this phone because of the price and but hate the looks of MIUI, hence the demand for a solid, clean ROM. I suppose I wasn't wrong after all.
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Well to be honest I thought exactly the same, but development is kind of slow. I think most people jumped for the OP3 because they were afraid Xiaomi wouldn't release sources, but Xiaomi did release bootable sources, twice so far. A far cry from OP3, but then again this phone is half the price with almost identical specifications.
gabor94 said:
Due to death of my nexus 5 I chose to switch to Xiaomi Mi5. Good specs, very affordable just like the old nexus 5. Only annoying thing is MIUI.
Could you recommend some close to stock Android rom? Something that would be most nexus/pixel-like
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To be very frank, I am in your boat for the same reason in search of stock feel since I moved to MI5 from Nexus5.
Lineage-OS is said to be stable but I am not satisfied with it's experience since it requires still more stability and improvements. Camera becomes bit issue once you move away from MIUI. Battery life is only ok for MIUI rom and not in any other ROM. So I would suggest stick to MIUI if you want battery life and better Camera. For stock experience, let the LOS mature to some extent to make you move from MIUI.
Sorry for a little OT guys, but is there any stock'ish rom which utilizes home button the same way MIUI does (tapping to go to home screen instead of actually pressing it)? I've tried several roms and none of them could do that which is very disappointing.
gabor94 said:
Due to death of my nexus 5 I chose to switch to Xiaomi Mi5. Good specs, very affordable just like the old nexus 5. Only annoying thing is MIUI.
Could you recommend some close to stock Android rom? Something that would be most nexus/pixel-like
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I also went from Nexus 5 to Mi 5 and I must say it wasn't a bad choice but definitely not the best one either. I'd say the biggest problem of MIUI is stability. After almost 9 months of using it, I still face problems with basic features from time to time (gps is whimsical, wifi connection goes off randomly sometimes). MIUI itself is a great OS in my opinion after you manage to get used to the interface (DPI change is a must in my case). What I like the most is the ability to make an FTP server out of your phone to transfer smaller files wirelessly, I rarely use cable thanks to this. I know it can also be achieved using 3rd party apps but having it built into file manager is more convenient.
I'd recommend you to set up MIUI the way you like with some 3rd party launcher (I use nova), at least until we get a fully-functional stock rom with battery life comparable to MIUI.
Actually MIUI is far from terrible. I have the global version 8.1 and it works fine. It's stable, works really fast, no lags whatsoever. Just changed default launcher to Google Now Launcher. There are quite a few handy options like securing applications with a fingerprint. Don't know about battery life though, in the reviews I've seen online people said 4-6 SOT, will have to check that. Quick charge is on board so not such a big problem.
Anyway, got the money I paid, less than 300$ for 64gb seems like a wonderful deal. Very happy with the purchase so far.
About lineage OS and other custom ROMs, can't one just use stock MIUI apps for camera and other things, that could potentially benefit from it?
What is the best custom rom for mi 8?
Why you choose it?
If there are pros and cons list of the custom rom that would be nice xD
For me AOSP Syberia and AOSIP and MIUI based XEU ROm
saimanow said:
What is the best custom rom for mi 8?
Why you choose it?
If there are pros and cons list of the custom rom that would be nice xD
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At the moment, I believe that Miui Pro is the best. I just installed it yesterday. It has so many additional features that I can't begin list them all, and there is no doubt in my mind that it has the absolute best battery life.
My first choice was Pixel Experience , but I didn't find options I was after, then moved to Havoc for about a week - too many options, issues with notifications and fingerprint working erraticly on online banking (issues with magisk perhaps). Now I'm settled with crDroid for now and found this quite good, Still have lineageos and few others to try. I'm wondering if any of the ROMs will show led notifications while connected to a charger?
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At the moment, I believe that Miui Pro is the best. I just installed it yesterday. It has so many additional features that I can't begin list them all, and there is no doubt in my mind that it has the absolute best battery life.
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What is the last version for mi8?...Otas updates?...Weekly updates?
thanks!!!
I don't have much time to test all those ROMs, so I always choose stable MIUI ROM. I tried xiaomi.eu ROM, but battery didn't last more than 1 day and SOT was about 4 hours. Then I installed Mi Room and it works like a charm. The developer also maintains own TWRP, brings always fresh news about Xiaomi brand on his page. The major drawback is that the site is fully russian. But google translate will do the job. With this ROM I have SOT about 8 and more hours, Wifi, BT, GPS, data always on.
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I don't have much time to test all those ROMs, so I always choose stable MIUI ROM. I tried xiaomi.eu ROM, but battery didn't last more than 1 day and SOT was about 4 hours. Then I installed Mi Room and it works like a charm. The developer also maintains own TWRP, brings always fresh news about Xiaomi brand on his page. The major drawback is that the site is fully russian. But google translate will do the job. With this ROM I have SOT about 8 and more hours, Wifi, BT, GPS, data always on.
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About mi room did you using beta or stable? I suppose that stable but I would like to confirm.
Yes, stable. Betas are also good, but I don't want to spend my free time downloading and flashing new rom every week.
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Yes, stable. Betas are also good, but I don't want to spend my free time downloading and flashing new rom every week.
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Then don't.
I mean I know that you know this already. But you don't have to flash a new Rom every week. Just resist the urge. I will try Mi-Room sometime. But at the moment Miui Pro is truly one of the best Rom's that I have ever used. According to GSam just now, SOT is 9 hours and 58 minutes
I stopped flashing weekly doing because it becomes too much like an addiction and takes too much of my free time away from other more important things like yelling at my kids........joking.
tsongming said:
Then don't.
I mean I know that you know this already. But you don't have to flash a new Rom every week. Just resist the urge. I will try Mi-Room sometime. But at the moment Miui Pro is truly one of the best Rom's that I have ever used. According to GSam just now, SOT is 9 hours and 58 minutes
I stopped flashing weekly doing because it becomes too much like an addiction and takes too much of my free time away from other more important things like yelling at my kids........joking.
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I couldn't resist the urge, you know... Has MIUI Pro also stable version, because as far as I know, they don't have...?
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I couldn't resist the urge, you know... Has MIUI Pro also stable version, because as far as I know, they don't have...?
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No its based on Beta.
Personally, I prefer the beta. But as you know you will occasionally see bugs.
I have been using the beta roms on my Mi8 for about 3 months. Honestly I only see bugs occasionally and if there is a bug, I just dirty flash back to the prior release.
tsongming said:
No its based on Beta.
Personally, I prefer the beta. But as you know you will occasionally see bugs.
I have been using the beta roms on my Mi8 for about 3 months. Honestly I only see bugs occasionally and if there is a bug, I just dirty flash back to the prior release.
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I have tried MS and eu rom. Loved MS because of customizations. (Useful). So what about MiUI Pro rom ? What customisation available?
Rajeev said:
I have tried MS and eu rom. Loved MS because of customizations. (Useful). So what about MiUI Pro rom ? What customisation available?
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I am going to bed, so I will have to give the list later. Pretty much everything you can imagine. For example, everything that I have seen in Miui Roms from Nougat up through Pie. But all incorporated within a Pie Rom. What is really useful, is the Smart Network options, the extra connections timers and battery savings scripts that go well beyond typical Miui. Plus Miu Pro has the menu animations from Nougat, not sure if you know those, the folding, unfolding, overshoot etc. It doesn't do much but its a neat looking novelty, your can import any theme, as I have mentioned the battery life is phenomenal.
I need to sleep now. Yes, I definitely love that Rom. But I will check out the ew Mi-Room rom too since I have tried it yet.
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I am going to bed, so I will have to give the list later. Pretty much everything you can imagine. For example, everything that I have seen in Miui Roms from Nougat up through Pie. But all incorporated within a Pie Rom. What is really useful, is the Smart Network options, the extra connections timers and battery savings scripts that go well beyond typical Miui. Plus Miu Pro has the menu animations from Nougat, not sure if you know those, the folding, unfolding, overshoot etc. It doesn't do much but its a neat looking novelty, your can import any theme, as I have mentioned the battery life is phenomenal.
I need to sleep now. Yes, I definitely love that Rom. But I will check out the ew Mi-Room rom too since I have tried it yet.
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Thanks for the answer. Will try MIUI Pro rom once
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Since its need donation to get download link i am staying with MS rom. Thanks btwn..
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Can u tell me whats the exact build number / version that u having right now in MIUI Pro rom? Does it 9.6.5 or 9.5.9? Because in MIUI Pro site its showing 9.5.9. And that 4pda cloud showing 9.5.9 too. Is that uploaded by you or someone else? Asking because hope we can get future versions also from Cloud
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Thanks for the answer. Will try MIUI Pro rom once
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Can u tell me whats the exact build number / version that u having right now in MIUI Pro rom? Does it 9.6.5 or 9.5.9? Because in MIUI Pro site its showing 9.5.9. And that 4pda cloud showing 9.5.9 too. Is that uploaded by you or someone else? Asking because hope we can get future versions also from Cloud
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Hi Rajeev, I messaged you.
The most current version is 9.5.9. However, It is my understanding that Miui Pro is only updated monthly and 4PDA has been a great resource for me. As you may know, it's very difficult getting past the Cyrillic captcha on 4PDA so I joined the site with help from a Russian friend.
For the benefit of other readers I will reiterate something I said to you privately
I assume that OTA is one of the benefits from having a subscription.
With that being said, I have dirty flashed Miui Pro and other EU weekly beta custom roms with zero issues
Flash, dont root yet / boot to system / update google store apps / reboot to recovery/ then flash Magisk/ Enjoy
Finally, Miui Pro is so very good so I definitely recommend that any interested parties check it out. If anyone can afford the OTA subscription, I am sure that the developers would really appreciate your support. Otherwise, I know that updates via 4PDA have been ongoing for a long time, because I have used them on my other devices. Because of the long-term consistency with 4PDA updates, I have always assumed the updates posted on 4PDA are from the developers themselves and the link that I posted a couple of days ago is always updated with the latest Miui pro ROM releases as the become available.
I will most likely go for Syberia, once my Mi 8 can be unlocked, with Pixel Experience and LineageOS being the backup options.
First and foremost, I look for a ROM that provides a fast experience, good battery life and stability. Customisation options beyond that what AOSP offers are welcome, but not a necessity.
What would you guys suggest, given I don't want to use MiUI-based ROMs.
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OOS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OSS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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1. Fluid navigation gestures
2. Hit or miss on OSS
3. AOSIP
4. Reboot recovery... Factory reset.. Flash OOS..flash twrp reboot
5. AOSIP brings stability and android q features.. Kinda still agree with you though
Just my little 2 cents from when I was still rocking the 6t. I have 7pro now but thankfully AOSIP is already there too. But I can only imagine that development here has only dug further and provides an even better experience since I was here last
Lol. Oos sucks. Try aosip, you won't be disappointed.
Oos all the way! I have tried most custom roms, and while most are really good, but can't get through a day without jonesing to get back on Oos. I breathe a sigh of relief when I'm back using their gesture nav. We need to find ATL4ANTIS and beg him to build a CATACLYSM rom for the 6t! That rom on the Nexus 5 is still to this day the best custom i have ever used!
I have to agree with the OP, I've been flashing ROMs going back to the mytouch 4g and htc hero. Honestly this is the first phone I've owned where I really haven't felt the urge to go beyond root and substratum for more theming options of third party apps. It's nice there are some options out there, but OOS is there first rom I've used that felt mostly complete and not something patched together from bits and pieces. It's fast and smooth and battery is pretty good right out of the box. I keep ending up back on OOS, throwing on few root apps, change up the theme a bit and throw a slightly and I mean slightly better kernel and call it good.
Gotta respect your point of view,nicely written article.
Tho I'm using OmniRom Treskmod at the moment. OOS has also come a long way from what it was during Oreo days and safe to say you can easily live without a custom ROM on a 1+ device. The reason I'm using Treskmod atm because I was bored of OOS UI. Might be switching back to OOS soon
Cataclysm rocked. Loved that on my old Nexus 6.
The main reason I don't root, unlock, custom rom is I'm just too flippin' old and tired at the end of the day to
jack with it anymore. I use to flash all sorts of custom roms, back in the days of my HTC tilt phones, but since
android 4.3, I haven't felt the need to root or custom flash.
Hey, at least we have the ability to do so, but for me, end of the work day and weekend, I rarely touch my phone.
The main reason I don't switch to a custom rom is AOSP Gestures
I mostly agree with you! I like flashing ROMs but always come back to oos after a week max.
There are always some hiccups here are there, some are worse than others. Oos is just what I consider as stable.
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Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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OOS is a tight, well-designed OS.
For now, OOS, TWRP, and Magisk are sufficient for me.
@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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Some of the things I looked for was better battery, lockscreen mods such as lockscreen rotation, changing of lockscreen shortcuts. Bring able to change location of status bar elements. Blurring if background for recents UI, quick settings UI. General ability to customize. Granted OOS doesn't have most of these, but it brings enough to the table that I'm not feeling the urge to go through all the steps needed to get them with a custom ROM. The ROMs I have tried while all good, tend to feel like something is lost in translation. May not be your experience but hey... It's how I feel. Out of all the stock ROMs on all the various flavors of devices I've owned going back to the HTC MyTouch 4G with Sense 1, OOS is the only one that has just enough customisation in it whilst remaining out of my way.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just wondered what features he was looking for that are not in ROMS now. You gave great examples. Especially the lock screen one, I have not seen that one before.
I Couldn't Agree Any More with You
I was going to share a post very similar to this one of these days sooner or later and you basically took the words right out of my mouth.
Back before I got the OP6T, I loved rooting and installing custom ROMs on my previous phones, all the way back from my Moto X (Original) Developer's Edition, to the LG Nexus 5X, and to the LG G6 (this one was a toughy), I enjoyed trying out different custom ROMs and seeing their unique features or customizability that they could bring to the table.
But with Oxygen OS, I just keep coming back to it! At first I couldn't quite place what it was exactly, but it's just as OP put it. The gestures (so nice. Fluid is a good alternative, but I don't think it quite compares to OP's nav gestures. Sure some customizability would be nice, but it just works.) The FP reader is kind of a big one and even though FP support was eventually brought to custom ROMs, they're still iffy and buggy. I thought at first I wouldn't mind them, and I didn't, but I just missed it in the end. With the nothing "just right" is what I agree with the most. OOS just feels something unlike other stock firmwares out there and it just feels smooth. One example is Nova Launcher. I've been such a huge fan of Nova for so long and the customizability is amazing, but the OnePlus launcher also replaces it for me! It all kind of "just works". For your point on going from custom ROM to OOS wipes everything, I've always accepted the fact that if I'm switching ROMs around, an easy mistake comes with a wipe, so I don't mind that. And with your fifth point, I think that's only because of us growing old of what seemed new or was more active while it existed. Newer updates for Android with security hinder modding and though we keep finding new ways to root and mod, it often just pushed developers away. Hopefully we'll see more innovation, but for the time being I do feel like it's in a state of limbo, or at least slowing down.
I will put in one more chance into AOSIP as people are saying, but right now, OOS with theOneOS, Magisk, Root, and EdXposed satisfy my needs.
I also see people asking OP what they seek in custom ROMs and from my point of view, I seek some originality and uniqueness. Something that persuades me to keep utilizing that ROM instead of pushing me away. I love customizing and ROMs like RR, Omni, BootLeggers are good examples but they lack a solid foundation of what they used to be. They're just cherry picked mods from other custom ROMs, or unofficial ports with stability improvements but that also comes rarely.
One more comment and to close it off: I'm a consumer. I believe that I definitely do know that I have an above average knowledge of how Android, modding, and all that works. I do know that it is hard work to code and create custom ROMs. I haven't personally contributed in doing anything because I simply don't have the time. I'd certainly try to if I did have the time, but I don't. It is appreciated for devs to release custom ROMs, but I feel like it is lacking. I don't mean any offense to anyone, and I hope people do respond in order for conversation or argument. I'd like to see what other people think.
TL;DR: OnePlus somehow just sucks me back into OOS in every way possible. Custom ROMs feel lacking.
@ogkillergreen i couldnt agree more. I laughed at my friend who jumped to One Plus before me when he told me how amazing OOS was. When I got the OP6t, i was blown away at what OP has done. I have been flashing ROMS and mods since the OG Droid Days. Never have I kept a stock rom as my main, not to mention as my preference. On the 6t, while ive tried most roms, its not been worth the trade-offs yet. the clock in status bar on oos bugs the pi$$ out of me. (align right would have been a good option for one plus to put in) but if thats my only gripe in UI, its near perfect *for me*. Every custom rom i tried drank battery compared to OOS. Especially compared to OOS with Omega kernel. my best battery life on an android device ever was with the 5/29 build of omega on stock 9.0.14.
I get it, though. Some people are convinced AOSP-based is always better, more feature laden, and simply faster. I was one of those people. The OP6T has swayed my opinion forever. Stock is no longer a dirty word to me. Especially when coupled with a few magisk modules and Omega kernel.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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BootLeggers has some sick themes and other UI Related stuff up its sleeve it also has Minimal Customization and is Stable. If you want a good Custom ROM I'd recommend BootLeggers. But yeah Stock OOS Beta + Magisk & Subs is enough for me.
Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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I think that is always a good reason to stay stock, but don't you lose that by just unlocking your bootloader?
Hey guys I'm using a mi 8 for three days now and I'm sick of the bad ram management of the MIui 10 globe..tried everything.. I read a few meanings but I wanted to ask again:
Is the ram management really that better in the EU Rom? Because this socks so hard right now.. This would be the only reason for me to unlock the bootloader and flash another rom. Thx in advance guys. Best wishes.
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Hey guys I'm using a mi 8 for three days now and I'm sick of the bad ram management of the MIui 10 globe..tried everything.. I read a few meanings but I wanted to ask again:
Is the ram management really that better in the EU Rom? Because this socks so hard right now.. This would be the only reason for me to unlock the bootloader and flash another rom. Thx in advance guys. Best wishes.
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I don't think that xiaomi.eu has better ram management. It based on China miui rom with multilingual and Google play services. If you want to stay on miui add apps to autostart and lock these apps at recent apps. If you want to better ram management just try any custom rom based on aosp or los
Jogg3r said:
Hey guys I'm using a mi 8 for three days now and I'm sick of the bad ram management of the MIui 10 globe..tried everything.. I read a few meanings but I wanted to ask again:
Is the ram management really that better in the EU Rom? Because this socks so hard right now.. This would be the only reason for me to unlock the bootloader and flash another rom. Thx in advance guys. Best wishes.
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yes, it's absolutely better. I use it and I switched my parents who are in their mid 70's over to Xiaomi EU and they like it better to. My dad who knows absolutely nothing about about phones, computers or any kind of tech said that to him it feels smoother.
Since 8.15 Xiaomi .EU have adapted Miui 11 apps into the build, I made posts about this in the Best rom section with screenshots.
Personally, I like that there are no ads whatsoever, and that battery life is incredibly good. Especially when the Miui 11 extreme saving function is enabled. This mode limits the device to 9 apps and I havent charge my phone since about 5 days ago, and still have plenty of battery left. Granted, as a test I did not use my usual apps such as Youtube, Twitter, XDA, Reddit. But, I still used it for calls, messenger, hangouts, and reading the news.
Its like anything, it's up to the user. Some people prefer stock, some prefer AOSP, and some prefer custom stock roms such as Xiaomi.EU. There is graph of a recent poll here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/development/index-roms-kernel-recoveries-tweaks-t3853178
Try it, if you don't like it then you have the option to go back. FYI, if you stay on stock you can sign up for early access to official Miui 11 apps , in the settings of the updater. Next to apply for early testing of android Q /Miui 11 before its available. probably in November.
Go here and complete form. : https://event.c.mi.com/global/apply/mipilot/
Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.
For me yes you should switch to a custom ROM. MIUI for this device is too nerfed and bugged to begin with. As for experience that depends on your preferred ROM and your device variant (as of now custom ROMs on 4/64 variants too laggy). I personally use Pixel Experience and it definitely made my experience better and what I deserve
Indeed, switching to a custom ROM would improve your experience. I switched to PixelPlus UI because MIUI has so many bugs, flaws, and sporadic app crashes. It was the best decision I ever made. When I flashed the PixelExperience rom, I thought it was a little jittery to use, but PixelPlus UI was the second rom I flashed after that, and it was the best one. I found it to be a lot smoother than PE. I haven't tried EvolutionX or Derpfest, but I plan to someday.
i wouldn't recommend it , i see loads saying yeah do it and then complain about all the bugs in it . have a look at the custom rom posts and see for yourself .
I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...
MarvavCZE said:
I use latest CrDroid on 4/64 variant and I am 100% satisfied. It's worth to give it a go, or to try some other roms as well. You can always go back to miui if you don't like the experience afterall...
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Hi Cykip,
If I was to go down custom rom route, I would defo go with what MarvavCZE said... I love CrDroid, have used it for ages on various other devices and it's perfect for me. The amount of pre built-in rom tweaks are amazing, far more than most other roms... I love it, best distro ever....
However, much like The Mero said... I am very happy with stock rom for the time being. This phone is too new (barely 2x weeks old), modern device, and compared to my other phones more expensive. So I am happy with how it works and behaves for now.
Perhaps in a year or two, I may consider it... buts stock for me for time being
Lister of Smeg
lister is right , phone is too new to have a decent custom rom . it can take months or years to fix bugs .
but if you have an old phone try installing one on that . you'll learn how to do it and if it goes badly at least you wont have wrecked your new one
Xiaomi did not yet release the kernel source code officially, I can only recommend to wait until that happens and official custom roms for this device become hyped. Until then, you cannot expect a daily driver.
cykip said:
Hi, I have my only good phone which is this redmi note 11. I was wondering if its worth it to flash custom rom and use it as a daily drive either flashing it pixelplusui or pixel experience. Is it gonna make the phone better to use or worsen the experience of this phone.
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Mate look, everyone know Xiaomi stock UI is worst and it's a master copy of IOS. I was facing a number of issues. Flickering, refresh rate jitters, stupid google dialer plus a lot other that I forgot lol
I went with ppui and cherish is but no gcam module was working on em. Now I'm on rice droid and it is smooth as butter
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