Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OOS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
ogkillergreen said:
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OSS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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1. Fluid navigation gestures
2. Hit or miss on OSS
3. AOSIP
4. Reboot recovery... Factory reset.. Flash OOS..flash twrp reboot
5. AOSIP brings stability and android q features.. Kinda still agree with you though
Just my little 2 cents from when I was still rocking the 6t. I have 7pro now but thankfully AOSIP is already there too. But I can only imagine that development here has only dug further and provides an even better experience since I was here last
Lol. Oos sucks. Try aosip, you won't be disappointed.
Oos all the way! I have tried most custom roms, and while most are really good, but can't get through a day without jonesing to get back on Oos. I breathe a sigh of relief when I'm back using their gesture nav. We need to find ATL4ANTIS and beg him to build a CATACLYSM rom for the 6t! That rom on the Nexus 5 is still to this day the best custom i have ever used!
I have to agree with the OP, I've been flashing ROMs going back to the mytouch 4g and htc hero. Honestly this is the first phone I've owned where I really haven't felt the urge to go beyond root and substratum for more theming options of third party apps. It's nice there are some options out there, but OOS is there first rom I've used that felt mostly complete and not something patched together from bits and pieces. It's fast and smooth and battery is pretty good right out of the box. I keep ending up back on OOS, throwing on few root apps, change up the theme a bit and throw a slightly and I mean slightly better kernel and call it good.
Gotta respect your point of view,nicely written article.
Tho I'm using OmniRom Treskmod at the moment. OOS has also come a long way from what it was during Oreo days and safe to say you can easily live without a custom ROM on a 1+ device. The reason I'm using Treskmod atm because I was bored of OOS UI. Might be switching back to OOS soon
Cataclysm rocked. Loved that on my old Nexus 6.
The main reason I don't root, unlock, custom rom is I'm just too flippin' old and tired at the end of the day to
jack with it anymore. I use to flash all sorts of custom roms, back in the days of my HTC tilt phones, but since
android 4.3, I haven't felt the need to root or custom flash.
Hey, at least we have the ability to do so, but for me, end of the work day and weekend, I rarely touch my phone.
The main reason I don't switch to a custom rom is AOSP Gestures
I mostly agree with you! I like flashing ROMs but always come back to oos after a week max.
There are always some hiccups here are there, some are worse than others. Oos is just what I consider as stable.
ogkillergreen said:
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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OOS is a tight, well-designed OS.
For now, OOS, TWRP, and Magisk are sufficient for me.
@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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Some of the things I looked for was better battery, lockscreen mods such as lockscreen rotation, changing of lockscreen shortcuts. Bring able to change location of status bar elements. Blurring if background for recents UI, quick settings UI. General ability to customize. Granted OOS doesn't have most of these, but it brings enough to the table that I'm not feeling the urge to go through all the steps needed to get them with a custom ROM. The ROMs I have tried while all good, tend to feel like something is lost in translation. May not be your experience but hey... It's how I feel. Out of all the stock ROMs on all the various flavors of devices I've owned going back to the HTC MyTouch 4G with Sense 1, OOS is the only one that has just enough customisation in it whilst remaining out of my way.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just wondered what features he was looking for that are not in ROMS now. You gave great examples. Especially the lock screen one, I have not seen that one before.
I Couldn't Agree Any More with You
I was going to share a post very similar to this one of these days sooner or later and you basically took the words right out of my mouth.
Back before I got the OP6T, I loved rooting and installing custom ROMs on my previous phones, all the way back from my Moto X (Original) Developer's Edition, to the LG Nexus 5X, and to the LG G6 (this one was a toughy), I enjoyed trying out different custom ROMs and seeing their unique features or customizability that they could bring to the table.
But with Oxygen OS, I just keep coming back to it! At first I couldn't quite place what it was exactly, but it's just as OP put it. The gestures (so nice. Fluid is a good alternative, but I don't think it quite compares to OP's nav gestures. Sure some customizability would be nice, but it just works.) The FP reader is kind of a big one and even though FP support was eventually brought to custom ROMs, they're still iffy and buggy. I thought at first I wouldn't mind them, and I didn't, but I just missed it in the end. With the nothing "just right" is what I agree with the most. OOS just feels something unlike other stock firmwares out there and it just feels smooth. One example is Nova Launcher. I've been such a huge fan of Nova for so long and the customizability is amazing, but the OnePlus launcher also replaces it for me! It all kind of "just works". For your point on going from custom ROM to OOS wipes everything, I've always accepted the fact that if I'm switching ROMs around, an easy mistake comes with a wipe, so I don't mind that. And with your fifth point, I think that's only because of us growing old of what seemed new or was more active while it existed. Newer updates for Android with security hinder modding and though we keep finding new ways to root and mod, it often just pushed developers away. Hopefully we'll see more innovation, but for the time being I do feel like it's in a state of limbo, or at least slowing down.
I will put in one more chance into AOSIP as people are saying, but right now, OOS with theOneOS, Magisk, Root, and EdXposed satisfy my needs.
I also see people asking OP what they seek in custom ROMs and from my point of view, I seek some originality and uniqueness. Something that persuades me to keep utilizing that ROM instead of pushing me away. I love customizing and ROMs like RR, Omni, BootLeggers are good examples but they lack a solid foundation of what they used to be. They're just cherry picked mods from other custom ROMs, or unofficial ports with stability improvements but that also comes rarely.
One more comment and to close it off: I'm a consumer. I believe that I definitely do know that I have an above average knowledge of how Android, modding, and all that works. I do know that it is hard work to code and create custom ROMs. I haven't personally contributed in doing anything because I simply don't have the time. I'd certainly try to if I did have the time, but I don't. It is appreciated for devs to release custom ROMs, but I feel like it is lacking. I don't mean any offense to anyone, and I hope people do respond in order for conversation or argument. I'd like to see what other people think.
TL;DR: OnePlus somehow just sucks me back into OOS in every way possible. Custom ROMs feel lacking.
@ogkillergreen i couldnt agree more. I laughed at my friend who jumped to One Plus before me when he told me how amazing OOS was. When I got the OP6t, i was blown away at what OP has done. I have been flashing ROMS and mods since the OG Droid Days. Never have I kept a stock rom as my main, not to mention as my preference. On the 6t, while ive tried most roms, its not been worth the trade-offs yet. the clock in status bar on oos bugs the pi$$ out of me. (align right would have been a good option for one plus to put in) but if thats my only gripe in UI, its near perfect *for me*. Every custom rom i tried drank battery compared to OOS. Especially compared to OOS with Omega kernel. my best battery life on an android device ever was with the 5/29 build of omega on stock 9.0.14.
I get it, though. Some people are convinced AOSP-based is always better, more feature laden, and simply faster. I was one of those people. The OP6T has swayed my opinion forever. Stock is no longer a dirty word to me. Especially when coupled with a few magisk modules and Omega kernel.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
ogkillergreen said:
It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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BootLeggers has some sick themes and other UI Related stuff up its sleeve it also has Minimal Customization and is Stable. If you want a good Custom ROM I'd recommend BootLeggers. But yeah Stock OOS Beta + Magisk & Subs is enough for me.
Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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I think that is always a good reason to stay stock, but don't you lose that by just unlocking your bootloader?
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First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
wolfen69 said:
First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
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imo yeah. tis why I went back to stock 4.4.4 and GravityBox. No issues since then. None. Zero. Roms not worth fiddling with IMO. too many bugs trying to figure out if it's the app, the kernel, the ROM...I will do custom kernels but...no more than that.
Ben36 said:
It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
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Good point.
I think its all in what type of bugs you get. I've seen bugs even on stock roms, custom roms give you those options where stock falls short. I do however think Xposed is a good way to possibly fix some of those issues
Sent from my Nexus 5
4 stock updates from Google within 3-4 months (and we still expect bugs...). How could we have 100% stable custom roms?
Anyways custom roms are stable enough to enjoy my phone and it's way better than stock
wolfen69 said:
Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm not bitter about it lol, just got tired of flashing new ROMs all the time. It's nothing against the devs, they do some really great work, I just now prefer the dependability of stock. It was the original Moto X that changed my habits.
It's software, by definition it will have bugs.
The question is whether or not you can live with a particular ROM's set of unique bugs.
I've been running an old (Oct. 2014) CM11 nightly because it mostly gives me what I want without undue grief (weird reboots, battery drain, etc).
It's far from perfect, it won't play nice 100% with my car head end just to list one thing (BT bug, seems to be fixed in CM12).
I play around with other ROMs using MultiROM, but always come back to the old CM11.
I'm quite happy there is such an assortment to try, imagine how unhappy you would be if there was only one and it had a major (in your opinion) bug.
I don't think it's possible to get rid of all bugs ever. Its an os that is working with constantly changing apps and devices. But, I use cataclysm as my dd with elementalx and I don't notice any bugs. Im sure they are there, they just don't affect me with my particular usage.
wolfen69 said:
Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You are aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You should be aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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That's funny, I used to hate dark chocolate as a kid and now I prefer it.
They all have bugs. Every ROM I've used stock or custom has had bugs. Though staying stock or staying with the stable builds by the big name teams yielded the most stable experience for me. If someone flashes weeklies/nightlies and does not expect a bug or two they're doing it wrong. Main thing is finding something you as a user can live with.
It's funny that I just opened XDA 5 minutes ago to search for people's opinions about completely stable custom roms and I immediately came across this thread. I guess I will keep my phone stock and try Xposed for the first time when it's available.
I was done with flashing and experimenting with my Galaxy S2 a while ago after I realized there wasn't a perfect rom. But it's tempting though now I have a Nexus phone..
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I wondered about this, reading about what devs have deal with what googles supplies over time.
I tried Cataclysm lollipop and that's really close to being a solid rom but the bugs from google really make it frustrating to use as a daily rom, poor ram management and lockups, the inabilty to multi task without redrawing.
from a consumers point of view you expect lollipop to be an improvement over kitkat,
Switched back to kitkat and didn't realised how good and battery friendly It is.
This is why I stayed with nexus,the closet thing to a stable phone, will wait for 5.1 before I update.
Yes they are. In the lollipop updates on unofficial cm roms I'm still getting camera bug and the voip bug where I can't be heard on a headset. They appear after a few hours to weeks. Happend on a nighty today so Sent logcat in. Lollipop shouldn't have been released in the mess it's in. It's laughable that a couple of pple cherry picking from roms will do anything other than incorporate the bugs. There is a Golden rule here # devs can do no wrong and you can't put them down# cherry pickers are not developing anything imo. They merge others work, sometimes producing a better rom than the original, granted, but fixing problems. They have no idea 90%of the time. 10%are more skilled. But if google with hundreds of coders can't get it right what chance have independent roms? Look at the official lollipop CM. Still on nightlys and will be when 5.1 comes.
I run roms until a bug crops in and won't go which breaks something I need. Them on to the next. Bigsys?? K K roms were the closest to perfection. Fast and fluid.
Kernels is another thing, for another day..
While they may be less than perfect, from what I've been reading the Nexus 5 may be skipping 5.1 and going directly to 5.2
Sent from my Nexus 5
People are less than perfect by nature so that being said ,art imitates life as.
well as android 5.0 and above
From my point of view, even the stock ROM has its own flaws and sometimes it gets resolved a few revisions/versions later. On a custom ROM, it tends to be resolved pretty quickly provided the developer is actively monitoring user feedback and supporting it.
I'll usually only look for custom ROMs which focuses on staying as stock as possible while improving its speed and stability, I'll try to stay away from ROMs that offers a lot of other additional features which may or may not break another thing or two.
Hi guys,
I know its really hard to create a new ROM and updating it and giving to users. But since the launch of Android 5.0 Lollipop I don't find difference between all major ROMs.
If there is difference, it is of the Bugs. Some ROMs got big bugs and some with small bugs. But rest is same. The looks the feel, everything same (Except MIUI - which is not on Android 5.0).
I have tried almost all of them. Thanks to all the devs. But my question is there any ROM which is unique???
I am getting same functions in all of them with same looks Even they are same in smoothness and working.
The difference is created by Cyanogen ROMs with theme engine, but now all ROMs now include that theme engine. So we are basically using the same ROM everywhere.
At the moment I am using DirtyUnicorn and I don't want to change because all the ROMs are same.
Is there any ROM which is unique??????? Any?????
Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
gautam.is.sharma said:
Don't say that I should change theme or launcher. It just makes the availability of ROMs a joke.
I am still waiting for MIUI or Lewa if it arrives.
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
See I do agree with you. Most roms are pretty similar when compared to back in the days of A4.2.
What I think is more important is the choice of kernel. Allowing the ability to over/underclock and control voltages automatically and many other things. I think learning how to use a kernel and it's various governers is what will separate phones.
I dont know why so little roms have cm profiles. It's a feature that have much more benefits than any theme engine
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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If you dont like them then by all means make one yourself. Just wait MIUI is also gonna look alot like the rest. Android is made for you to change things to make it your own. So use a launcher and a custom theme or make your own rom.
Also if you are looking for verity then you should not have gotten a nexus. Get a Touchwiz or Sense device. This way you have more options.
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See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
gautam.is.sharma said:
See the second post.
I am not against devs and ROMs, but my only thought is that they are all same.
Even once we used to have great Paranoid ROMs with great features, but now it is nothing but same as all CMs.
With Android 5.0 Google has done something that is now killing Custom ROMs. The ROMs are becoming similar or I should say same.
MIUI is different because they are doing different, but all others are just mixing functions and giving you CM ROMs.
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Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
zelendel said:
Well first thing is MIUI is not really different. They are just coping others as well. Notice how they are still on KK? Yes many features are the Same in alot of roms and that is because users have come to expect those and Devs are working like crazy to get them moved up to 5.0 and working. As for them giving you CM roms that is where your wrong. Many have completely ditched CM roms sources due to their dumb ways of merging untested code.
I wont even talk about Paranoid android. They never came up with anything original.
Android at the base is all supposed to look the same. This is what Google Whats and got it with the nasty thing they call the Material design.
I saw your second post. My answer will still be the same. The days of themed roms are over. You are given a clean base to make it your way. So take that and make it yours with a theme and launchers and such.
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What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
gautam.is.sharma said:
What I really love about MIUI is that they are working in completely different manner. They are working hard on including new features and providing new looks and with a big market for customization.
Whereas CM are great too, and they are the base ROMs for maybe all the ROMs we are using right now.
I don't think Paranoid didn't did anything new, they gave us Hybrid ROMs. But with Android 5.0, they no more my favorites.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Almost no ROMs are using cm as a base any more. Miui is just taking ideas from iOS. They are even working on a whole new setup so they can release devices in the us without apple sue them out of business.
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Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
gautam.is.sharma said:
Copying is what they are doing for themes. I don't think that's bad. iOS is more Android, so if MIUI is copying the design then it's not the issue. Their environment is different. So do CMs.
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So let me get this straight. You think coping is ok yet dont like that all the roms "seem" the same to you?
IOS is more Android?
Your right their environment is different. They dont care what users want or say.
Cm is not even worth mentioning anymore really. They are fast becoming just as big a joke as MIUI in the android world. No one with any real thoughts of their own even use their roms anymore.
The problem is that we all think that the developers actually develop something.
The matter of the fact is that they only tinker with what Google gave them.
So I wouldn't hold my breath for a sense like rom that has its own framework.
No one has got time for that. Big things come from big companies. Or maybe from a team of good friends.
A long time a go a bunch of people gave us Theme Engine, Hybrid Mode, Profiles, PIE, Heads-up, Immersive mode and lots of stuff that was new at the time. I really believe that the creative process is, has been and will be strong on XDA - Developers... but i agree with the OP albeit for different reasons.
I think that as technology, products or processes are understood better, being innovative, creative or "disruptive" becomes harder:
1.- We (the consumer) demand a series of features that become standarized which tramples innovation
2.-And there is the thing with the source material P.E. There is so much a thinkerer can do with a hammer a 2x4 and a couple of nails... Same with android.
3.- As a technology matures the innovation rate diminishes. Look at clocks, TV, videogames or smartphones! Every year there are new models, but little game changing technology even when there are hundred of people working on with, fully paid and with the backing of big companies.
Science and technology advance is not linear... I think that we are on a low point on ROM innovation but to me, that only means that soon somebody will come up with something new and great.
Android roms are same?
Yes they are with a little difference in each and every rom ..coz they are built from the same mother source...AOSP...
Google itself builds it factory images from aosp with touch of google changes...
Every oem uses the aosp and modifies it to make sense, touchwiz, zenui etc etc...
Things have certainly changed in past few years when we only had cm pa pac man ..
Now we have 100s of options ..some developers even kind enough to merge our 'wanted' changes in their rom.
So instead of looking at this thing as 'all are same with little changes' , look it as a 'single thing with 100s of options/modifications' to exactly suit your needs.
Yes its confusing sometimes especially when you are a nexus user
Try a different oem if u want a great change on changing custom roms (migrating from touchwiz to vanilla android gives a wow feeling )
Of course they're 100 pretty much exactly the same roms out there. It's really hard to notice any difference among them. It´s all true. Also calling every room-cooker a developer is in my opinion little too much.
It's been already stated that if you want more variation is better to go for oem devices. however probably at the price of never getting fully working aosp/cm rom (unles we're talking about gpe devices). If you want variation go for flagship oems if you want to enjoy aosp go for nexus.
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Do you think all ROMs are basically same in Android 5.0??
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"Same" is a relative term like "IS".
A relative term is that it is different for different people or situations. An example: someone who is 5 feet tall might think someone who is 5 feet six inches tall is tall, but someone who is 6 feet would think that that person is short.
So I voted no, I don't think all ROM's are the same but they are definitely very similar.
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~Peace
Agreed, there does not seem to be a lot of innovation in Lollipop ROM features. I have tried Euphoria, TeamUB, crDroid, Slim, RastaPOP, OminROM and XenonHD.
So far they all have the same features. The best one really is XenonHD with its custom long press and double-tap actions on the Nav Bar buttons. This is a great carry over feature from KitKat.
All the other ROMs suck in terms of "new" features.
+1 ..
I guess after 3 4 yrs being on xda, flashing roms with different features, developers amazing us with new and unique features every few months, for me Now it all comes down to the daily use of these features
The PA per app color, pie and omni roms split screen were something that i could use as a daily driver. I really miss PA roms Pie, slimpie somehow is just isnt the same. I miss the tablet mode from PA too.
What i want as a user is a smooth stable rom with some basic tweaks that i dont find on a stock rom and less battery drain. Which i pretty much have with LiquidSmooth.
The speed of innovation has slowed down or rather there arent many more innovative things to do that can be used for daily use anymore i guess. Im not complaining here, just a thought.
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Gravitybox or MiUi CM is not same
Hello,
I'm basically looking for custom rom recommendations. I have had my Nexus 6 for almost a month now and I have been running it stock, rooted with TWRP. This is my first Android phone. (Previous IOS / iPhone User from 3G to the 6)
These are the features that I would require:
STABILITY! I don't want a rom that is going to be laggy, crashing, rebooting, etc.
Layers Support? (I wan't to run a dark theme, which I believe requires layers?)
Nav Bar Control. I would like to be able to modify / hide the nav bar to avoid burn in.
Status Bar Control. I would like to modify status bar. Battery % placement, etc.
Double Tap to Wake / Sleep
Reboot option when holding power button rather than just power off
Notification LED Control Built In
That is about it I guess. I would like a ROM that provides all of these features "baked in". If the ROM does not have all of these, I don't feel it is worth flashing from stock. I am mainly looking at "The Pure Nexus" and "Chroma" roms, which if I am not mistaken both offer all of the features I listed? Does anyone want to be so kind as to give me the pros and cons between these two? I am open to other roms as well as long as they offer the features listed. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe most custom roms offer the features I listed?
I have manually flashed system images (MRA58K, MRA58N, MRA58R) but I have never flashed a custom rom. So I do not know much about them. To be honest I am happy with stock and perfectly content. I just think it would be nice to gain the extra features that I listed.
Rektifying said:
Hello,
I'm basically looking for custom rom recommendations. I have had my Nexus 6 for almost a month now and I have been running it stock, rooted with TWRP. This is my first Android phone. (Previous IOS / iPhone User from 3G to the 6)
These are the features that I would require:
STABILITY! I don't want a rom that is going to be laggy, crashing, rebooting, etc.
Layers Support? (I wan't to run a dark theme, which I believe requires layers?)
Nav Bar Control. I would like to be able to modify / hide the nav bar to avoid burn in.
Status Bar Control. I would like to modify status bar. Battery % placement, etc.
Double Tap to Wake / Sleep
Reboot option when holding power button rather than just power off
Notification LED Control Built In
That is about it I guess. I would like a ROM that provides all of these features "baked in". If the ROM does not have all of these, I don't feel it is worth flashing from stock. I am mainly looking at "The Pure Nexus" and "Chroma" roms, which if I am not mistaken both offer all of the features I listed? Does anyone want to be so kind as to give me the pros and cons between these two? I am open to other roms as well as long as they offer the features listed. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe most custom roms offer the features I listed?
I have manually flashed system images (MRA58K, MRA58N, MRA58R) but I have never flashed a custom rom. So I do not know much about them. To be honest I am happy with stock and perfectly content. I just think it would be nice to gain the extra features that I listed.
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You will get the same answer everyone gets. Try them out and make up your own mind. To be honest if you are content then stay stock. Flashing roms is not really something to do and forget about. All custom roms are always beta releases. No matter what the thread says. As this is a development forum you will find that rom devs like to experiment and that means somethings get broken while other things get fixed
if i were you, if your happy with stock, leave it stock..
if you like something different, then its for you to find out. if you got problems, u can always ask (or do search)..
same thing as development, if it aint broken, dont break it.
zelendel said:
You will get the same answer everyone gets. Try them out and make up your own mind. To be honest if you are content then stay stock. Flashing roms is not really something to do and forget about. All custom roms are always beta releases. No matter what the thread says. As this is a development forum you will find that rom devs like to experiment and that means somethings get broken while other things get fixed
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I guess I was expecting this type of answer, which makes sense to me now that I think about it. I will just have to try some out and go from there. I mean, that is what having a Nexus device is all about? When I finally made the switch from IOS to Android (3 weeks ago) it was for a Nexus Device for a reason. I did want stock android, for a nice clean UI with no bloatware. However, I also made the switch because I wanted further customization. I was / am content with stock, but after having my Nexus 6 for a few weeks there are some additional features and customization that I would like. So I have half of what I wanted already, and its time to go get the other half!
Off I go, to brick my phone!
haha... J/k.
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I guess I was expecting this type of answer, which makes sense to me now that I think about it. I will just have to try some out and go from there. I mean, that is what having a Nexus device is all about? When I finally made the switch from IOS to Android (3 weeks ago) it was for a Nexus Device for a reason. I did want stock android, for a nice clean UI with no bloatware. However, I also made the switch because I wanted further customization. I was / am content with stock, but after having my Nexus 6 for a few weeks there are some additional features and customization that I would like. So I have half of what I wanted already, and its time to go get the other half!
Off I go, to brick my phone!
haha... J/k.
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Many people make the same mistake thinking the nexus is all about flashing roms. It really isnt. It is a developmental device for developers to test their apps out on without all the OEM BS messing things up.
Where the nexus devices really shin is if you are looking to get into development. Then it is the perfect device. You dont have to deal with all the closed sourced binaries and source code from other OEM devices.
Dont be afraid to brick, It happens to everyone. My advise is stay away from the toolkits until you can do what you need to by hand. All toolkits do for new users is make things worse if things go wrong.
I ran stock on my device which I just recently got for less then a day myself.
Well I just flashed my first custom rom, ever in my life! Went smooth as silk. I did a nice full wipe in TWRP. I then installed "The Pure Nexus Project" rom, followed by their google apps. I kept the same kernal I was using. It is just the modified stock kernal that allows root, provided by chainfire in method 1 of his rooting android 6.0 thread.
So far I am pleased! Just being able to have my battery percentage NEXT to the battery icon made it all worth it. LOL
zelendel said:
Many people make the same mistake thinking the nexus is all about flashing roms. It really isnt. It is a developmental device for developers to test their apps out on without all the OEM BS messing things up.
Where the nexus devices really shin is if you are looking to get into development. Then it is the perfect device. You dont have to deal with all the closed sourced binaries and source code from other OEM devices.
Dont be afraid to brick, It happens to everyone. My advise is stay away from the toolkits until you can do what you need to by hand. All toolkits do for new users is make things worse if things go wrong.
I ran stock on my device which I just recently got for less then a day myself.
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Thank you for your advice. I am currently not using any toolkits, nor do I plan to. I would like to be at least somewhat in control when I flash my device. lol. I am a pretty big techy, and I do have some coding in my background. I manually flashed my Nexus 6 to 6.0 straight out of box with no issues. Fastboot and ADB commands were stupid easy to figure out. I am still pretty noob to Android though. I just never really got into phones and such before. I just bought every new iPhone on release and used it. (3G to 6) I finally got sick of IOS and wanted something I could have fun with and tinker. That is why I went with a Nexus device. Well, actually mainly for the stock, clean Android experience, but tinkering as well.
As someone who's tried every combinations of ROM/kernel for the N6, I prefer Cataclysm with Uber Despair or Elite kernel. Definitely the smoothest, feature-filled experience I've had especially on Marshmallow.
My 3T has arrived, and I want to migrate from my 5X. I have a couple of questions:
Which ROM?
I know this has been discussed ad-infinitum, but I can't see the forest for the trees. I see lots of discussion about Oxygen vs CM / Lineage / Paranoid Android / AOSPE. I can say that even though I'm a "power user" in that I use my phone a lot, I am happy to stay close to the vanilla Android experience with minimal bloatware / "custom" experiences. I will need root for Titanium Backup, Greenify(*), Xposed, and perhaps a couple of other apps. In the olden days, I used CM on my HTC Desire and Moto G, but my Nexus has been just great with the factory ROM. I'm looking for maximum stability rather than tweakability that I'll never use. And sorry for being lazy, but I don't want to try ten ROMs to see what suits me, it will just become a pain.
How to migrate my apps and data?
Just use Titanium Backup? It's worked well for me in the past between different handsets. Or is the Google Android sync working well these days, and everything will just sync when I sign in with my Google Account?
(*) Is Greenify still regarded as useful on a 3T?
OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
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I don't doubt that, I was looking for more of a comparision.
ast00 said:
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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I do take a lot of photos (snaps, for serious stuff I use a DSLR), so camera quality is important to me. However if we're talking about a small difference between cameras, and the Lineage camera is still fine for most use, I don't think I would use camera quality as a single reason to prefer one ROM to another. Anything else good / better about OxygenOS, or is it mostly bloatware (for someone like me who's quite vanilla ).
It will be weird but good going back to Lineage, as a CM user from many years ago. What about AOSP(E)? Does it feature in the equation?
On one hand, I love the developer-friendliness of OnePlus, on the other hand, there's so much contradictory information out there, it's hard to know what's real. Some people say the cameras are night and day, some say they're similar. Some say battery life is night and day, some say similar. I just edited my original post because I read that Paranoid Android might be a contender... You get my point...
From what you say, I'll definitely use Titanium. I've been with it for years, so I know where I am. In fact, maybe I should stop Google installing the apps so I can do it with Titanium?
I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
i have been use all rom and the best still oxygen os very stable and minimum bloatware best rom so far but now i tried AOSPA and great but i think the oxygen is best
If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
thanhnvt194 said:
If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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PA 7.2.3 is android 7.1.2 like other custom roms based on aosp/linage , 2.3 is just their name they call that rom,
And about long term support, here in XDA, we all knows every devs have their life, they could drop their project for works family...
we can't blame them:fingers-crossed:, since we pay nothing but "likes" for their works, PA may discounted, FreedomOS too.But there will many good devs here, in XDA create new good rom for us,
Did you have an nexus5 before?i run it great for years with slimkat, DU... then google dropped support for it and slim disappear, but even now, nexus 5 still can run good with android 7.1.2 Darkrom. and even Gcam with HDR+ from pixel, So dont worry about support. we're in XDA, with little search, try few roms for days, then choose your favorite :good: I'm currently running Viper with google cam, but maybe i will add lastest freedomos as secondary in multirom.
Enjoy your phone,
Oh wow, how silly do I look with the version numbers... Thanks for the clarification!
I wouldn't blame any open source development for not having time, but equally I'd rather use a ROM that gets updated in a reasonable (not quick) time. I just don't have time to spend hours researching every few months.
I have a Nexus 5X, running 7.1.2 from Google, with minimal tweaks. SuperSU, Titanium, Greenify (is that still a thing that people use), AdAway. I've been really happy with that setup.
So it's a funny decision:
PA based on AOSP with many useful things added.
FreedomOS based on Oxygen with non-useful things removed, and a few useful things added?
Did I sum it up reasonably?
Also, are these statements relevant / true?
PA is CAF-based and FreedomOS isn't? If so, should I care?
FreedomOS has Viper4Android and ARISE, which as a music fan I should care about? Or is it just fake audio processing, which actually makes the audio less natural? I'd never heard of either until I started reading about 3T ROMs.
This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...
lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!
Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
MazeHei said:
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
rickysidhu_ said:
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
Yousvel said:
Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
rickysidhu_ said:
As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
Yousvel said:
Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped