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Best rom for my use case

I have ran roms in the past. But since I have had my N6 I just never did. Well now that 7.1.1 is the last official build Google is going to put out for it and I am having some of the issues related with that build (speakerphone and random bluetooth disconnects) I am looking at the rom community for some pointers. Here is a list of a few things I would like it to do:
must be rootable (duh)
must be stable and fix the speakerphone and bluetooth issue that I highly doubt Google will be fixing
kernel to extend battery life (to a point, not looking for 4 day battery and not have anything work)
enable blue filter for at night (worked before the 7.1.1 update)
Still be able to do stuff like Pokemon Go, Android Pay, etc even while being rooted
Be able to keep full device encryption that requires pin/passcode to even boot
I am not a total noob when it comes to roms and root, just been out of the scene for a while. So I turn to you fine folks for recommendations. I am hoping I'm not trying to bite off too much with the wanting root and keep android pay and Pokemon Go.

Before it got pulled for the SafetyNet issue (we presume), the stock March update, with Franco Kernel and Magisk, ticks all those boxes. Expect for the stable part, I guess...

Didgeridoohan said:
Before it got pulled for the SafetyNet issue (we presume), the stock March update, with Franco Kernel and Magisk, ticks all those boxes. Expect for the stable part, I guess...
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Yeah the march 7.1.1 update still didn't fix the speakerphone or bluetooth issue from what I have read. I have heard good things about pure nexus rom and it supposedly has the working speakerphone/bluetooth. So you say the Franco kernel and Magisk will allow the PoGo and Android Pay? If so I may have to look into that.

From what I've read it did fix both speakerphone and Bluetooth...
Pure Nexus fixed the speakerphone, but there has been a bunch of users with the Bluetooth issue. Franco Kernel has (among other things) a great blue filter feature and I've not had any issues passing SafetyNet with Magisk and MagiskSU.

Didgeridoohan said:
From what I've read it did fix both speakerphone and Bluetooth...
Pure Nexus fixed the speakerphone, but there has been a bunch of users with the Bluetooth issue. Franco Kernel has (among other things) a great blue filter feature and I've not had any issues passing SafetyNet with Magisk and MagiskSU.
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Thanks for that. Is there a current writeup on how to setup the Magisk and MagiskSU to pass safetynet?

kameleon25 said:
Thanks for that. Is there a current writeup on how to setup the Magisk and MagiskSU to pass safetynet?
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The release thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
And my own collection of tips and tricks:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-magisk-hide-troubleshooting-tips-t3561828

Xposed vs systemless xposed?

I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?

maybeme2 said:
... For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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If you don't care very much about system/less installation of zips because you're on a custom rom, maybe the only advantage is that systemless xposed is easier to remove if you end up in a bootloop or if you have other kind of problems.
Also, disabling magisk will disable xposed (again, in case of problems).
So, I think the main benefit is this. I tested when I was on Oreo (now I'm on P beta) and yes, in case of bootloop or crashes, disabling xposed modules or systemless xposed in magisk is like a life saver sometimes.

maybeme2 said:
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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Personally I don't"t think it matters. I am using s8 stock noughat 7.0 rom using rovo"s xposed ver 89 and magisk 16.4 with no issues.
From my understanding reading the op for systemless xposed it's basically Rovo"s version ported to be installed through magisk. So what ever problems you have with one version you would have with the other (app wise that is).
Either version does not pass safety net and can effect play store certification.
I am currently running about 10 exposed apps + about 13 root apps at the moment.
At the end of the day I think it would be a personal choice as to which you choose to use.
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maybeme2 said:
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
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Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!

ldeveraux said:
Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!
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That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.

maybeme2 said:
That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.
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Do you think what a wired desktop is more secure than your android/IOS device nowdays? ALL the OSs have their own compromises and malware, specially desktop OSs.

[Help requested] Options for Root and Xposed on XZ1C

Just ordered my XZ1C and looking forward to joining this community!
I'm looking to root and install systemless xposed (Magisk) on the XZ1C while keeping camera functionality equivalent to stock quality. It would be great if the solution allows me to keep current with new ROM versions (primarily for security updates). What is less important:
- Ok with either stock or custom ROMs (access to ongoing security updates most important)
- Know that DRM keys will be gone forever (but as long as camera functionality still there, that's fine)
- Ok with using any camera app (stock, gcam, etc.) as long as it retains quality similar to stock
After trawling through this and the XZ1 forum, I believe there are 3 options to achieve what I need (root and xposed), and would like advice from the community on pros/cons of each of the following:
1. Custom ROM with DRM fix included: Unlock bootloader, install TWRP, install custom ROM which comes with DRM fix (e.g. @modpunk 's LineageOS, @russel5 's RR or AOSP)
2. @janjan 's kernel: Unlock bootloader, update to latest compatible stock firmware using flashtool, install janjan's DRM fix kernel
3. Xperifix: "automated" black-box solution and fingers crossed that it works
Any recommendations on which option would be best for me given my objectives? Thanks!

You can use my stock mod. Ddmfix included, superuser mod, deodexed, on the last page of thread you can find fix for xposed

wyt18 said:
Any recommendations on which option would be best for me given my objectives?
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russel5's rom is pretty amazing, full of features and falls into number 1 on your list.
2 and 3 refrence stock roms with either a fixed kernel or automated flashing of all the files you need.
The stock camera is best and as much as I am tempted by rr, I don't think it beats stock camera software for pictures. So I'd say a lot of your decision has to do with how much you like taking pictures?
The stock firmware from April .75 is the last firmware that works with Xposed and one of your problems will be finding a copy of that to flash and downgrade your new arrival.
You might need to get janjan's old (.75) kernel from github as he is only showing the latest 16.20 on his thread.
I get moaned at for promoting Xperiafix because it's paid software, but it's a one stop shop, it does everything and it's so easy. It has worked smoothly every time I've used it
Depending on your skillset and how many files you want to find and flash Vs one program.

Didgesteve said:
russel5's rom is pretty amazing, full of features and falls into number 1 on your list.
2 and 3 refrence stock roms with either a fixed kernel or automated flashing of all the files you need.
The stock camera is best and as much as I am tempted by rr, I don't think it beats stock camera software for pictures. So I'd say a lot of your decision has to do with how much you like taking pictures?
The stock firmware from April .75 is the last firmware that works with Xposed and one of your problems will be finding a copy of that to flash and downgrade your new arrival.
You might need to get janjan's old (.75) kernel from github as he is only showing the latest 16.20 on his thread.
I get moaned at for promoting Xperiafix because it's paid software, but it's a one stop shop, it does everything and it's so easy. It has worked smoothly every time I've used it
Depending on your skillset and how many files you want to find and flash Vs one program.
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Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?

wyt18 said:
Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?
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As far as I'm aware there's no way a stock rom 16.20 will work with Xposed. There are several custom roms that are updated to 16.20, but still pull historical parts of the framework with them to make Xposed work.
Xperiaifx will work on .75 firmware. It will install TWRP, Magisk and the fix. Once you have Magisk on it you can install the Xposed framework module (SDK26)
The Sony camera has many addons, I don't know about portrait.
Google camera works on russel5's rr, but again the quality isn't up to stock.
Having been through the pollava of unlocking and rooting my phone, I'd say the advantages don't outweigh the effort and problems. Every time there's an update to the firmware, which is quite often with Sony, you have to wait and hope some nice developer is going to make the files you need to keep up to date. Then go through a long proccess with downloading the new firmware with Xperiafirm, then flashing with Newflasher and then whatever files you need to reflash from the developer. You'll never get OTA updates again. Having a rooted phone is a pain in the neck.

Didgesteve said:
As far as I'm aware there's no way a stock rom 16.20 will work with Xposed. There are several custom roms that are updated to 16.20, but still pull historical parts of the framework with them to make Xposed work.
Xperiaifx will work on .75 firmware. It will install TWRP, Magisk and the fix. Once you have Magisk on it you can install the Xposed framework module (SDK26)
The Sony camera has many addons, I don't know about portrait.
Google camera works on russel5's rr, but again the quality isn't up to stock.
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Thats not right, I use now firmware 16.20 with janjans kernel and russel5's xposed fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77778634&postcount=47) it works, and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to janjan and russel5 for his xposed fix (and mod)

Good news

d_fens said:
Thats not right, I use now firmware 16.20 with janjans kernel and russel5's xposed fix (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77778634&postcount=47) it works, and I'm very happy with it. Thanks to janjan and russel5 for his xposed fix (and mod)
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hi @d_fens. how did you go about installing this system less xposed fix on your stock oreo 16.20? should i do the following:
1. stock oreo 16.20
2. flash magisk via twrp.
3. boot into phone and copy xposed fix into /system/framework/
4. then flash systemless xposed via twrp?
thanks

wyt18 said:
Thanks!
- so seems like between Xposed and having the latest security updates, I have to choose one of the two. Or might there be a workaround for Xposed on the 16.20 stock rom?
- with xperifix, can one achieve Xposed? (Whether on latest or downgraded rom?)
- purchased this phone partly for the camera, so I will go with stock rom if that has the best quality. Does stock rom also have a portrait or lens blur mode similar to google cam?
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i used janjan's mod to get systemless root on stock. with this you are able to update using newflasher all the latest roms with security updates provided by Sony
you don't have to choose between xposed and the latest security updates:
for xposed, i've tried both Taichi Magisk (taichi.cool) and Virtual Xposed (also via Magisk). both work fine but Taichi is a smoother implementation (only activates xposed for those apps that you whitelist). it is however not open source (yet), though this was not a concern for me. also, it supports not all xposed apps but a subset
the xposed modules that i absolutely needed to have are all working on Taichi: Xposed Edge, CorePatch, AppContext, WeXposed, God Mode

sabotage154 said:
hi @d_fens. how did you go about installing this system less xposed fix on your stock oreo 16.20? should i do the following:
1. stock oreo 16.20
2. flash magisk via twrp.
3. boot into phone and copy xposed fix into /system/framework/
4. then flash systemless xposed via twrp?
thanks
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yes that`s the way, which worked for me

Pie os with google pay working

Please post a PIE ROM with Google pay working(India)
CUSTOM ROM or root detected is the error when using PIE ROM like havoc,pixel,aosp.........
Please provide ROM with Google pay working....

All Pie ROMs do have Google Pay working. You've not installed Magisk, which is a must to pass Safetynet on Custom ROMs. No Magisk != No Safetynet pass. You can't not install Magisk and stay rootless, it still will detect your bootloader is unlocked and will still fail Safetynet.

Hey, Skydragon 12/10 build and H4K3ROM seems to work with google pay india as i tried.
I think Google pay india has some issue or what am not sure. It isn't working with any other ROM as of now. Even when we've Hidden all google apps and related app, also have tried hiding magisk it self.

Safetynet and GPay working flawlessly here, without Magisk or any hacks and tweaks. Cheers.

shawnsaimohan said:
Please post a PIE ROM with Google pay working(India)
CUSTOM ROM or root detected is the error when using PIE ROM like havoc,pixel,aosp.........
Please provide ROM with Google pay working....
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Dirty Unicorns latest RC build passes Safetynet out of the box. Google Pay working. No Encryption yet.

Dirk said:
Dirty Unicorns latest RC build passes Safetynet out of the box. Google Pay working. No Encryption yet.
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Apparently Google Pay in India (rebranded from Google Tez) has issues on the latest RC. No reports of any issues from other regions.

legendavey said:
Apparently Google Pay in India (rebranded from Google Tez) has issues on the latest RC. No reports of any issues from other regions.
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The issue was the user, not the ROM.
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>Akshay< said:
Hey, Skydragon 12/10 build and H4K3ROM seems to work with google pay india as i tried.
I think Google pay india has some issue or what am not sure. It isn't working with any other ROM as of now. Even when we've Hidden all google apps and related app, also have tried hiding magisk it self.
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Try it without Magisk, on a ROM that passes Safetynet out of the box.

Dirk said:
The issue was the user, not the ROM.
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Try it without Magisk, on a ROM that passes Safetynet out of the box.
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i can't say about without magisk but with magisk those above roms and also bootleggers rom seems to work for me. I've not tried rom without magisk, will probably try it when i have some time to clean flash again and test.
i thought he was doing the same probably and facing the issue so shared what i found for a solution. Didn't mean to say bad about any rom or dev.

>Akshay< said:
Hey, Skydragon 12/10 build and H4K3ROM seems to work with google pay india as i tried.
I think Google pay india has some issue or what am not sure. It isn't working with any other ROM as of now. Even when we've Hidden all google apps and related app, also have tried hiding magisk it self.
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Yes. Google Pay for India uses a different package name as the rest of the world that has contactless (NFC) payments. We have UPI gateway based payments and way more stringent rules by NPCI. Since they're two separate packages, it definitely makes sense that Google Pay works for some but the rebranded Google Tez in India has issues with some ROMs without Magisk.
I'm using the Indian Google Pay (aka Tez) on LineageOS beta without Magisk and I have had zero issues so far. It didn't work very well on the DU RC for me, kept logging me out after a while. But I haven't had a single issue for three weeks now on the LOS beta.

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..Google Tez in India has issues with some ROMs without Magisk.
I'm using the Indian Google Pay (aka Tez) on LineageOS beta without Magisk and I have had zero issues so far. It didn't work very well on the DU RC for me, kept logging me out after a while. But I haven't had a single issue for three weeks now on the LOS beta.
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I think you meant with Magisk? Otherwise you just contradicted yourself with your next sentence.
If a ROM passes Safetynet, i.e Selinux Enforcing/Verified Boot Patches in Kernel/Certified in Play Store then any app no matter what it's name or where it's used, will work if it checks for Safetynet status.
The problems i've seen reported were all with Magisk. Then there are factors like people not knowing to clear Cache/Data on Play Store if coming from a failing setup to a passing one, before trying Google Pay.
Sadly, at the moment Magisk is going to be needed most of the time because the number of ROMs that pass Safetynet out of the box right now is about Three, including DU. With all the Selinux Permissive ROMs Magisk is the only solution.
I wouldn't count on LOS passing out of the box once it's in Stable. That would break their 'Charter'. The maintainer has already said he hasn't done anything deliberately to pass Safetynet. Maybe accidentally...? Who knows. It will eventually need a custom Kernel with the verified boot patches to pass. (Not Caesium though as it still breaks the camera when paired with LOS. The old 'Black image with flash' issue. Still a problem on LOS Pie and presumably any ROMs that will be based on it like RR, if and when it arrives. RR of course comes with Caesium so will need a Kernel flashed on top that doesn't break the camera).
So many problems still with Pie. I'm back on RR Oreo with Franco Kernel for now. (And no Black image problem!)

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I think you meant with Magisk? Otherwise you just contradicted yourself with your next sentence.
If a ROM passes Safetynet, i.e Selinux Enforcing/Verified Boot Patches in Kernel/Certified in Play Store then any app no matter what it's name or where it's used, will work if it checks for Safetynet status.
The problems i've seen reported were all with Magisk. Then there are factors like people not knowing to clear Cache/Data on Play Store if coming from a failing setup to a passing one, before trying Google Pay.
Sadly, at the moment Magisk is going to be needed most of the time because the number of ROMs that pass Safetynet out of the box right now is about Three, including DU. With all the Selinux Permissive ROMs Magisk is the only solution.
I wouldn't count on LOS passing out of the box once it's in Stable. That would break their 'Charter'. The maintainer has already said he hasn't done anything deliberately to pass Safetynet. Maybe accidentally...? Who knows. It will eventually need a custom Kernel with the verified boot patches to pass. (Not Caesium though as it still breaks the camera when paired with LOS. The old 'Black image with flash' issue. Still a problem on LOS Pie and presumably any ROMs that will be based on it like RR, if and when it arrives. RR of course comes with Caesium so will need a Kernel flashed on top that doesn't break the camera).
So many problems still with Pie. I'm back on RR Oreo with Franco Kernel for now. (And no Black image problem!)
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I think my post was pretty clear, but I can type it out again using different words if you want.
LOS 16 beta allows GPay India (Tez) without Magisk, without any tweaks. *Doesn't* work on DU or *any* other ROM without Magisk in my experience. Magisk doesn't break Safetynet, it *fixes* it on most ROMs that don't pass by default.
Yes, DU passes Safetynet out of the box without Magisk too, but it occasionally logs me out of GPay India (Tez) and Netflix occasionally disappears from the Play Store. Which means something isn't working properly. Probably because its a userdebug build. I honestly couldn't care about DU rn because encryption is broken and they seem to be ignoring my report about it on JIRA.
I know about the LOS charter. I'll probably flash a custom kernel like Franco when LOS goes official.
I dunno what these problems with Pie that you speak of are. I haven't had a single issue and is now my daily driver. Oreo battery is also horrible compared to Pie in my experience, and the interface feels outdated. But you do you, bud.

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Please post a PIE ROM with Google pay working(India)
CUSTOM ROM or root detected is the error when using PIE ROM like havoc,pixel,aosp.........
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RR 7.0.0

Question which one to flash Xiaomi.eu or MIUIMix by MMX

undecided , all i know about miuiMix is that it is based on Xiaomi.eu , comes rooted and removed cleaner app ? and thats it they called it miuimix?
anyone that has it installed or tried them both can you share your experience
i am abit concerned about the root on MiuiMixand the banking app but i heard from someone that you can hide it with magisk

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undecided , all i know about XiaomiMix is that it is based on Xiaomi.eu , comes rooted with magisk installed , and maybe further some other system apps have been removed which i have no idea which ones
anyone that has it installed or tried them both can you share your experience
i am abit concerned about the root on MiuiMixand the banking app but i heard from someone that you can hide it with magisk
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What you said is correct.
I am using latest MiMix build for Note 10 Pro Max and it is absolutely smooth and stable. You can use banking apps without any issues by hiding magisk and banking apps.
Not sure about gaming since I don't play games.
Cheers!

ZainBilq said:
What you said is correct.
I am using latest MiMix build for Note 10 Pro Max and it is absolutely smooth and stable. You can use banking apps without any issues by hiding magisk and banking apps.
Not sure about gaming since I don't play games.
Cheers!
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can you check which system apps were removed , how many percent battery drain do you have over night , and screen on time on full charge
themes should not work on caller and messaging app correct ?

mite_jan said:
can you check which system apps were removed , how many percent battery drain do you have over night , and screen on time on full charge
themes should not work on caller and messaging app correct ?
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Seriously? Do I need to remember or check which systems apps were removed? I don't care.
Battery drain overnight is 1% or even 0% sometimes when wifi and mobile data is off.
Did not check screenon time.
Themes seemed to work on Caller Screen. Not sure about Messaging app, but it depends on Themes you applied.
If you want to flash, then do it and check yourself in detail. Otherwise, leave it.
Cheers!

cheers i will go with the xiaomi.eu , sounds ridiculous to steal their work with just putting root and deleting an app or two and call it a different name , thanks for the reply

mite_jan said:
cheers i will go with the xiaomi.eu , sounds ridiculous to steal their work with just putting root and deleting an app or two and call it a different name , thanks for the reply
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It's not the same. Xiaomi.EU is just MIUI ROM with removed bloatware and latest features added from chinese version of the ROM.
OneOS and MiuiMix take this Xiaomi.EU rom and tweak it a little further by adding some of the other custom rom features and some apps that you most likely will use since you unlocked your phone (Magisk, Substatum...)
OneOS and MiuiMix are basicaly tunned up versions of XiaomiEU