I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
maybeme2 said:
... For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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If you don't care very much about system/less installation of zips because you're on a custom rom, maybe the only advantage is that systemless xposed is easier to remove if you end up in a bootloop or if you have other kind of problems.
Also, disabling magisk will disable xposed (again, in case of problems).
So, I think the main benefit is this. I tested when I was on Oreo (now I'm on P beta) and yes, in case of bootloop or crashes, disabling xposed modules or systemless xposed in magisk is like a life saver sometimes.
maybeme2 said:
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
My current ROM is lineageos 14.1 which updates fine with Xposed framework installed. So I don't have to deal with stock ota updates.
For someone like me, on a custom rom, that does not use androidPay or banking apps on a phone, is there any advantage to switching from regular Xposed to systemless xposed?
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Personally I don't"t think it matters. I am using s8 stock noughat 7.0 rom using rovo"s xposed ver 89 and magisk 16.4 with no issues.
From my understanding reading the op for systemless xposed it's basically Rovo"s version ported to be installed through magisk. So what ever problems you have with one version you would have with the other (app wise that is).
Either version does not pass safety net and can effect play store certification.
I am currently running about 10 exposed apps + about 13 root apps at the moment.
At the end of the day I think it would be a personal choice as to which you choose to use.
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maybeme2 said:
I do not use androidPay or banking apps on my phone because I think it is unwise to do anything financial on a mobile device.
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Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!
ldeveraux said:
Pfff... Get with the times, Grandpa!
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That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.
maybeme2 said:
That's what a wired desktop is for. But, you go ahead.
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Do you think what a wired desktop is more secure than your android/IOS device nowdays? ALL the OSs have their own compromises and malware, specially desktop OSs.
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Hello guys. I'm tempted to install Magisk on my Zenfone 2 ZE551ML. I have the latest CM13 Nightly + Xposed and I want to ask if Magisk has any problem running alongside these two.
Another question is if I can still use the built in CM13 root.
Thanks for your answers!
Im running on CM 13 (ZenFone 2 Laser ZOOL) stable and it works fine.
The only problem is that with xposed active the safetynet check don't pass. But its just a matter of disabling xposed and rebooting when necessary.
I dont know if the differences are too significant, but hope it helps.
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Im running on CM 13 (ZenFone 2 Laser ZOOL) stable and it works fine.
The only problem is that with xposed active the safetynet check don't pass. But its just a matter of disabling xposed and rebooting when necessary.
I dont know if the differences are too significant, but hope it helps.
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That means Magisk doesn't work with Xposed ? Or I just have to unninstall Xposed and then install again after installing Magisk ?
PedroCaseiro said:
That means Magisk doesn't work with Xposed ? Or I just have to unninstall Xposed and then install again after installing Magisk ?
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Magisk itself works perfectly with Xposed installed, only Magisk Hide that doesn't hide Xposed.
So if you don't plan on using any app that checks Safety Net (Pokemon Go, Android Pay, for example) You won't have any problem.
FHC1998 said:
Magisk itself works perfectly with Xposed installed, only Magisk Hide that doesn't hide Xposed.
So if you don't plan on using any app that checks Safety Net (Pokemon Go, Android Pay, for example) You won't have any problem.
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and what about the built in CM13 root ?
I think the newest Magisk auto removes it when you flash it.
But I had manually removed before installing magisk on mine.
But in any case, if I remember correctly you can just remove it thru the SuperSU app before flashing Magisk.
FHC1998 said:
I think the newest Magisk auto removes it when you flash it.
But I had manually removed before installing magisk on mine.
But in any case, if I remember correctly you can just remove it thru the SuperSU app before flashing Magisk.
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I'll try it then and hope not to **** up my phone. Thanks
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PedroCaseiro said:
I'll try it then and hope not to **** up my phone. Thanks
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No problem. Just remember to make a nandroid backup first if you are worried.
Just got the device and contemplating updating. Is the update worth it?
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Just got the device and contemplating updating. Is the update worth it?
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It depends on how much you like xposed and its modules? in my opinion I prefer xposed over any supposed performance or battery upgrades nougat has.
Depends on what you use Xposed for. If enjoy heavily modifying your ROM, you should probably just stick to Marshmallow.
If you only use Xposed for basic mods like the YouTube ones, there's workarounds available now that work on Nougat.
Or you could use rr nougat and still pretty much have a great level of customization while still having the latest android. This is the ROM I use and I have no complaints get updated frequently as well. I don't really care for xposed or oos that's not why I got the phone. I got it because it has great development support here at xda and cause it's awesome of course.
954wrecker said:
It depends on how much you like xposed and its modules? in my opinion I prefer xposed over any supposed performance or battery upgrades nougat has.
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Yes I'm kind of leaning this way.
On OP3T, would you recall steps to install xposed? And which root method you used?
Anova's Origin said:
Depends on what you use Xposed for. If enjoy heavily modifying your ROM, you should probably just stick to Marshmallow.
If you only use Xposed for basic mods like the YouTube ones, there's workarounds available now that work on Nougat.
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What would it be for youtube background play and youtube no ads.
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What would it be for youtube background play and youtube no ads.
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Modified YouTube APK.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
I've stuck with Nougat since getting mine. Hopefully, rovo89 updates Xposed for Nougat in the near future. I love the deep layer of customization that comes with Xposed, but OOS with Magisk is pretty damn awesome.
Xposed is nice, but OOS has great functionality and what I am missing, can be added with Magisk. So no, no miss. Also, Safety Net works which is nice.
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I've stuck with Nougat since getting mine. Hopefully, rovo89 updates Xposed for Nougat in the near future. I love the deep layer of customization that comes with Xposed, but OOS with Magisk is pretty damn awesome.
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Xposed is nice, but OOS has great functionality and what I am missing, can be added with Magisk. So no, no miss. Also, Safety Net works which is nice.
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Like can you use something like snapreffs or xinsta with magisk?
Magisk doesn't really have much in common with Xposed, they do completely different things. Xposed modifies how an app runs while the app is running by interrupting commands, while Magisk simply replaces or inserts files in /system at boot. The level of customization that Xposed offers simply cannot be achieved directly with Magisk. It might be possible to modify the original Instagram app to include features from snapress or xinsta and then install the modified app.
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Modified YouTube APK.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-iytbp-injected-youtube-background-t3560900
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but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
rjan22 said:
but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
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SuperSU and MagiskSU both work perfectly on every version of OOS 4.x I have used so far... There's half a dozen guides on XDA alone that shows you how to root...
Sorry for the rant i apologize
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but there is no root for OP3 A3000 7.0 Nougat with 4.0.3 Oxygen OS, that method needs root?
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Pretty sure every OnePlus phone has been rootable. I mean, I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. OnePlus has always been very friendly to the root community, and IMO it's paid off well for them.
Lost Xposed reverted back to 6.0.. Wasn't worthed for me to lose Xposed
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Lost Xposed reverted back to 6.0.. Wasn't worthed for me to lose Xposed
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Which Xposed modules can't you live without?
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I preferred Magisk, because it is very stable while does not depend to system.
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Hi All,
Hope you are fine. I have some questions mates. Now i had installed Xposed Framework before Magisk and it is still installed. I realized (from Downloads) Magisk has Xposed Framework module.
Should i uninstall Xposed Framework from phone and install from Magisk?
If yes, why?
If i use Xposed Framework standalone (without Magisk), what is advantages and disadvantages?
Thank you so much.
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If your current version is working then there is no real reason to change. I have rovo's version 89 and magisk separate on my s8 with no issues. Basically it boils down to personal preference. I like to keep root and exposed separate in case of issues with one or the other. In any case if there are issues with exposed then it will happen on any version that you install.
As I've said it's all a matter of personal preference.
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magisk does not have xposed module ?
Is Xposed for pie in the works?
Is development continuing?
Yes, already out check it out
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Yes, already out check it out
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Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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Yes, I meant official Xposed for pie. Thanks.
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Sort of misleading if he was thinking of official Xposed for Pie, which doesn't exist. But since he didn't specify...
Yeah, EdXposed seems to be working well for folks it seems.
Essential PH-1, /e/ 0.5-n ROM, microG (NoGapps), XDA Legacy
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I have seen more people talk about "official Xposed" and each time I am wondering what is official about just a hobby project (told so by rovo89 himself) and what is less official about EdXposed.
EdXposed is actively developed, Xposed is not. EdXposed is open source, "recent" versions of Xposed are not. EdXposed works on Android Pie and Q, Xposed does not. EdXposed passes Safetynet, Xposed does not. If I take this as a measure, EdXposed is by far superior over Xposed and qualifies therefore more as "official" (not that I want to call it official, that is not the point).
Some people say that EdXposed is a fork or clone of Xposed, which is incorrect because EdXposed is an original, new work. EdXposed also works differently compared to Xposed.
So, if you had respect for Xposed (you should have had!), you should have respect for EdXposed too and not call it directly or indirectly "unofficial".
Just my 2 cents.
Note that this is a general remark, so not really a reply to the replied comment (this sounds awkward, but I hope it is clear want I mean).
Thanks Marcel for the clear explanation. It is very helpful to me. As the person who asked the question I just used the same term as the previous person, understanding what he meant by it.
I have used Xposed for a long time along with several of its modules (gravitybox, Xprivacylua, etc.) and it became comfortable to me. If unavailable for pie I have no problem using Edxposed when I finally root my new phone. It's a Moto G7, brand new, and I'm waiting for the rooting and unrooting procedures to become more certain, and twrp and lineageos to become available. Until then Im forced to use an unrooted phone with much less control than I'm used to.
Without Titanium Backup I can't even back up my app data! Avoiding Google where I can.
Thanks again Marcel.
So ever since I got my first Android (Gingerbread) I've hated the stock 'brick' battery icon.
I've mostly used Gravitybox over the years to change it to the circle icon.
But I see Gravitybox isn't available for Android 11.
I've rooted and have EdXposed installed. I'm wondering if anyone can help or have a method of changing the battery icon. (A theme/ icon pack)
Id rather not go through the process of trying to manually unpack system UI, maybe there is another way? But I'm not finding it.
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So ever since I got my first Android (Gingerbread) I've hated the stock 'brick' battery icon.
I've mostly used Gravitybox over the years to change it to the circle icon.
But I see Gravitybox isn't available for Android 11.
I've rooted and have EdXposed installed. I'm wondering if anyone can help or have a method of changing the battery icon. (A theme/ icon pack)
Id rather not go through the process of trying to manually unpack system UI, maybe there is another way? But I'm not finding it.
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3Minit Battery Mod Maybe?
Flash in Magisk manager
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=10763459528675576626
Tulsadiver said:
3Minit Battery Mod Maybe?
Flash in Magisk manager
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=10763459528675576626
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That's wonderful thank you!
You have install edXposed on your pixel 5 ?
Work ??
Yes the newest version works no problems. I'm not sure if magisk repo has newest version of edxposed, I had to find it on xda the other day.
Although I'm not using anything with xposed yet...
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Yes the newest version works no problems. I'm not sure if magisk repo has newest version of edxposed, I had to find it on xda the other day.
Although I'm not using anything with xposed yet...
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I assume you still lose GPay when you use xposed, right?
Sorry didn't fully test it, but with the new beta version of google pay, it let me log in and use the app (unlike old versions)
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Yes the newest version works no problems. I'm not sure if magisk repo has newest version of edxposed, I had to find it on xda the other day.
Although I'm not using anything with xposed yet...
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It would really be helpful if you could let me know what version of Riru module, what version of EdXposed Manager, and what version of EdXposed framework works for you, and if you're able to pass safetynet in Magisk.
There's so many factors with edxposed and without being able to do a backup, I would really appreciate specific version numbers, if possible, before flashing anything.
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It would really be helpful if you could let me know what version of Riru module, what version of EdXposed Manager, and what version of EdXposed framework works for you, and if you're able to pass safetynet in Magisk.
There's so many factors with edxposed and without being able to do a backup, I would really appreciate specific version numbers, if possible, before flashing anything.
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Here's screenshots of what I currently have setup. I did a reboot after each Module install, but not sure if it's necessary.
I also installed riru core v21.3, then updated to the latest, also not sure if was necessary, but I did have issues my first go around installing this but I didn't reboot after each Module installation.
Hope this helps
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Here's screenshots of what I currently have setup. I did a reboot after each Module install, but not sure if it's necessary.
I also installed riru core v21.3, then updated to the latest, also not sure if was necessary, but I did have issues my first go around installing this but I didn't reboot after each Module installation.
Hope this helps
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thanks, I've got it working since back then though. running the latest versions of everything.
mistermojorizin said:
thanks, I've got it working since back then though. running the latest versions of everything.
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Nice glad to hear
What xposed modules are you using?
Gravity box seems to be working quite well.
andybones said:
Nice glad to hear
What xposed modules are you using?
Gravity box seems to be working quite well.
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activity force new task
app settings reborn
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There's a bunch of other modules I've tried that work, but I'm not using, some that I remember:
all trans
chrome pie
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mistermojorizin said:
activity force new task
app settings reborn
gravity box R
minminguard
niwatori- one handed mode
unristricted get tasks
There's a bunch of other modules I've tried that work, but I'm not using, some that I remember:
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chrome pie
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I tried latest xposed and gravity box on my pixel 4a 5g, it works but for some reason, google camera force close, I must disable gravity box in order to make gcam working, nothing like that on your pixel 5?
J0kker said:
I tried latest xposed and gravity box on my pixel 4a 5g, it works but for some reason, google camera force close, I must disable gravity box in order to make gcam working, nothing like that on your pixel 5?
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I actually have a 4a5g, same phone as the 5 basically. Gcam closing happened to some people on older version of xposed I believe.